@chakraDkills not true, they may train but they train a martial art that is very limited. they would get destroyed quick by a decent mma fighter. say i train throwing a right hook since birth, does that mean i can beat an mma fighter?
@dangflo Not all shaolin monks would destroy mma fighters, its lame to say that. But shaolin monks train martial arts with the knowledge of virtue and practice for good health. Although both helps self defense, but they pursue differently. MMA might have more practical moves, but it doesn't do you any good towards your body health. Whereas, many martial arts will help in maintain good health. For example, Taichi.
Good grief people this is for show. The TKD guy is a Yong In University TKD major. He's wiffing kicks 1, 2 feet over the monk's head on purpose because this is for show. The back and forth kicking that they're doing is a standard TKD drill. You try to put together attack combinations and then let the other guy go and back and forth.
Taekwondo was made a long time ago before people started to fight dirty like punching someone on the floor, and yes i think actually taekwondo will lose against a wrestler in a ring match, i don't know about shaolin kung fu but a real taekwondo martial artist wouldn't just kick in a street fight.
get real, a wrestler (freestyle/greco) could beat a monk. A high school wrestler even. The only reason kung fu is feared is becuz movies. Kung fu doesnt work in most real life circumstances, get real guys.
you obviously know nothing about shaolin monks, they can litterly hang themselves by there necks and break metal with there head... and break sticks with their balls, how many wrestlers can do that.
i do know about shaolin monks, ok they can do all those stuff, but when it comes to fighting its a KO. No one will give them time to concentrate long and hard enough to even gather enuff strength to get socked in da face. MMA > Shaolin
In the ring, a monk would get knocked out, in real life, an MMA super star would get killed... You cant beat someone that lives, drinks, eats and sleeps fighting sense they could walk... I dont think any MMA fighter would win in a legit fight to the death, agenst a shaolin monk. No one that goes to a MMA class twice a week is going to beat someone that even sleeps a special way to enhance combat toughness... Stop pretending your game is the best...
Actually in a real death fight I would put money on the monk only because those guys are crazy. Real kungfu is about guaging eyes, ripping testicles, throat punching and all sorts of dirty tactics that are practical nonetheless.
rofl! ufc fatzos can't touch the kungfu, and true kungfu masters have more power than the ufcs, can the UFC pull a truck, or a small private airplane with his penis? no
have you ever seen the show human weapon, the main host is a UFC n BJJ fighter and basically in every eppisode he gets his arse kicked by these people who would be "slaugtered".
one, its becuz they want to hype up their tv show. Two, its cuz in the show theres pankrtion (wrestling), Judo, Juijutsu, Boxing, Muay Thai. THOSE are the ones that work, and are proven to work in the ring. However, most traditional martial arts are BS. I would know, I have studied Teakwondo, then during high school I joined the wrestling team and began doing juijutsu. Have you ever seen anyone in UFC thats good that knows kung fu? No? Alright then. Sanshou works, because its realistic kungfu
@flameonme come to asia fight the monks and talk . don't say BS i've seen tkd guys knock mma guys out here in Asia MMA is BS if you wanna put it that way . our empty hand form is just a part of the whole art which includes our weapon training . oh ya i am learning san shou . sanshou is a mix of tma and boxing , lots of move are from hun gar . shuai jiao , qin na . shaolin monk choose the best of any art and put it together for the army .juijitsu cam from judo which came from china dumbfool .
That was true about 5 to 10 years ago but it's been a while since the dominance of the grapplers and BJJ in MMA has faded. Strikers and well rounded fighters have been knocking out opponents with kicks for some years now. You need to know how to kick these days in UFC, and even more so in the new Pride whatever they call it now.
i heard that in this fight, the shaolin was forbiden to use his fists, cause he could have killed his adversary with one punch or something like that !!
The Shaolin monks have made some fame for themselves through their fighting skill; this is all due to having obtained this manuscript.[7]
The oldest evidence of Shaolin participation in combat is a stele from 728 that attests to two occasions: a defense of the monastery from bandits around 610 and their role in the defeat of Wang Shichong at the Battle of Hulao in 621.
THUS SHAOLIN IS THE OLDEST RECORDED MARTIAL ART!!
Shaolin is not the oldest recorded martial art. Boxing is. Basic punching skills invented by the Sumerians and Egyptians carried to Sparta and Athens carried to India carried to CHina. And evolved. ALWAYS EVOLVED!
after Bodhidharma faced the wall for nine years at Shaolin temple, he, according to the history, left behind an iron chest; when the monks opened this chest they found the two books "Marrow Cleansing Classic"[5] and "Muscle Change Classic"[6] within. The first book was taken by his disciple Huike, and disappeared; as for the second, "the monks selfishly coveted it, practicing the skills therein, falling into heterodox ways, and losing the correct purpose of cultivating the Real.
According to the Jingde Records of the Transmission of the Lamp, after Bodhidharma leaves the court of the Liang emperor Wu in 527, he eventually finds himself at the Shaolin Monastery, where he "faced a wall for nine years, not speaking for the entire time".
omfg you guys are so dumb tkd is the ORIGINAL 1 cause first of all taekwondo was made in korea in 1605 and the japanese copied koreans by making karate and the budist monk are lets say the cant do budist palm witch is wat a budist secret move is
Karate was enhanced but was discovered through the Chinese when missionaries went to Japan. That's why Karate meant CHINA HAND now it was changed to Empty hand! Durf!!!!
tkd fucking sucks and so does karate. as all of you should know, shaolin kung fu is the origin of all martial arts and it is the greatest martial art of all time. check the sources if you must.
I love it when people have arguments on the "comments" section i think its hilarious. Youboth sound like you want to kill each other ove a fucking video clip. LOL
the varman as it was mentioned ,originated india, the at a young age students are taught how to learn, then taught the art, an 8th dgr. b.b. in k. or t.k.d would rate under the level of 12yr old child, true k.f., more a relation to varman, perfected in china...
If you say kung fu is useless, you are wrong.If you face the student of kung fu, taekwondo or karate, you may be can defeat them easily. But if you face the master of kung fu ,taekwondo or karate, you will kill them by one hit.Then you will go to the heaven. Finally, in the heaven, you may say "I should not look down kung fu, taekwondo or karate before dead."
First, you make no fucking sense at all. Yes, if I see a "kung fu" master, I will kill him with one hit; that is the only thing you said that has any truth to it. Secondly, I have the right to insult any fraudulent motherfucker I want. And this video is staged, it's a fraud, not a real fight, contrived, bullshit, etc. Aside from that, kungfooey jerks are constantly owned by most other MA styles. So fuck you.
tjfnee88 no matter how muscly/tall/fat/skinny/skilled an mma fighter they can't hide or protect their pressurepoints,everyone has them,and in traditional gongfu(not the amateur kung fu fighters in ufc) you are trained to take advantage of those pressure points,so even if a kung fu fighter landed a "fluky" hit on those pressure points you'd go down like a sack of horse shit,if they abolished all rules apart from eye and scrot shots in mma fighters kung fu would more than likely dominate
and tjfnee i know what you're talking about,most kung fu fighters who enter mma fights jsut get grounded and pounded,but traditional kung fu practioners(monks etc) are alot faster and stronger than the poncy fruity shrimps of kung fu fighters who enter ufc so they won't get ground and pounded easily
First, there have been plenty of mma fights where all your bullshit was allowed; eye gouges, etc. Result = kungfooey owned by mma. Besides, eye gouges etc are not the core attacks of kungfooey. Pressure points can be used in any of the ufc matches; no one does because they are useless. Finally, your monk would be owned and sent back to china in a box.
ROFLCOPTERTJFNEE88MAKESMELOLINRLi love the way you defend your"uber 1337"mma fighters,all martial arts originated from kung fu and karate so wheneveryou say "kungfooey" is shit yoursaying muay-thai,kickboxing,jiujitsu,judo are shit aswell,the first ever martial art was varmam,and was indian,then it went to china and china called it kung fu,then it spread to other countries,japan called itkarate then korea called karate taekwondo,
Fucking moron. Wrestling, boxing, and kicking have been a part of nearly every culuture from primitive times. The American Indians, sub saharan Africans, ancient Greeks, Romans, Galic peoples, Celtic and pre-Celtic peoples, etc. Kungfooey was different in that it imitated the movements of animals. Otherwise, no, all fighting/grappling techinques did not originate in china or with kungfooey. Different cultures developed them on their own you fucking simpleton idiot.
from now on i'm going to reply to all your comments with "lol" because that's what it makes me do when i read the nonsense you make up, and seriously, stop defending other ma's as if you have fought in mma matches and have studied martial arts, you're an old man who spends most of his time argueing with people over the internet, post a video of you "owning" a shaolin monk you big paedo
say what you like super fag. Bottom line, all fighting styles or martial arts did NOT originate with kungfooey. You can't even say for certain that oriental martial arts originated with kungfooey; that is just theory. You're an uneducated slob and a cunting fool.
You people need to watch sanshou videos before you bash kung fu. An art is not limited by a name. Bruce Lee was a student of Wing Chun and Chuck Norris has admitted that whenever they sparred, Bruce won. Look it up. Every martial art has their strengths and weaknesses.
sanshou sure doesn't look anything like kung fu to me; looks like thai boxing with some throws allowed. Also, sanshou certainly is not "traditional" or classical in any sense; it was made up to compete with thai boxers. If that is kung fu, no reason to study any forms, etc. You can just train some judo and thai boxing and you're fine; no need for any silly forms or kung fu BS to compete in sanshou.
Korean martial art(such as Taekwondo) and Japanese martial art(such as judo, karate,aikido) are greatly influenced by Chinese martial art (kung fu).Muay Thai is partly influenced by kung fu but not as much as japanese and korean martial art. Chinese martial art have lots of styles than other countries. Traditional martial art such as kung fu , karate, judo have more history than mma.
Yes Agree . There are lots of Kung Fu Styles out there some are Lost . To tjfnee88 u DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING SO SHUT UP AND STOP TRYING TO ACT LIKE U KNOW MARTIAL ARTS.
Well, I know enough about martial arts to know that kung fuooey is consistently owned by mma fighters; owned again and again and again. Owned in fights with rules and in fights with no rules. Why is that? It's because it is TOTAL and COMPLETE bullshit. So fuck you.
u fucking Shit. Kung fu is not allowed to kill a person . if u see a real kung fu fight (which u haven see) in china u will know . whatever u one to belive . .if u dun belive what can i do ....
Hayatofernandes why should I go to china when I can see a "real" kung fu fight right here on youtube? This is what the chinese of the time hailed as an epic clash between great masters; one kung fu, the other tai chi (as if tai chi could be used in a fight anyway). You should look it up here; it is one of the most pathetic fights I have ever seen. It's obvious that neither loser has ever been in a fight in his life. Kung Fooey is TOTAL BULLSHIT.
You know what xioxiao19 you stupid bitch, I'm not here to study the history of martial arts. I'm here to determine which ones are useful and can back up their claims and which are just complete bullshit. So far, CMA not able to back up any claims; everything we know about kung fu is all just myth, legend, and hollywood. You're a dumb fucking idiot.
I totally agree with you that pro mma have no match to kung fu master.
to tjfnee88 :
mma is not unbeatable martial art. If a person is very skillful at one single style of martial art such as taekwondo, karate or kung fu. He can kill mma pro and mma student by one hit.
hes saying that a beginner martial artist( lion cub) wouldn't stand a chance against an attacker in a street fight(a full grown hyena) but someone who has practised martial arts for years(a fully grown lion) would rip a fully grown hyena apart its not that hard 2 understand
A simplistic explanation from a simplistic mind. Kung fu idiots stay the hell away from mma events because they have all been owned. We don't know how monks fight because they never compete. Don't tell me they don't because they are "peaceful"; there is myth after myth after myth about shoalin monks fighting in wars, fantastic duels, and many other instances of participation in combat. They don't fight because it is all just that myth; they would be OWNED if they went into mma.
lol you truly are an idiot,I study muaythai,karate and kungfu,and can easily say kung fu is far more deadly in a fight to the death,hardly any traces of kungfu are used in mmafighting because its targeted at the throat and vital organs,muaythai and karate kickboxing is used in mma fights because it is sport and there are rules,if it was a fight to the death, no rules, a shaolin monk would easily take on up to 2 mma champion fighters, search,"true power of shaolin kung fu" if you don't believeme
I believe that you "think" you're right because you are so weak minded that you have bought into the CMA mystique. Too bad for you it's all just a waste of time and money. First few UFCS had no rules except no biting or eye gouging. Is biting part of your practice? Fucking idiot, good luck ever getting a neck strike or any other of your fantasy techniques in a real fight; it's obvious you've never been in one geek.
hmm,I do mma sparring every week,BTW whenever you actually decide to leave your computer and learn a martial art,then I'll consider your opinion,you obviously have no mma fighting experience and don't know squat about strengths and weakness of the human body,so in these first few UFCs were you allowed to kill the other fighter?yeah i didn't think so,I said fight to the death you dumb shit
Fight to the death? How many fights to the death have you been in? I would like to know that, and your local law enforcement authorities probably would too. I doubt you have done any mma, you sound full of shit to me. Just another cma nerd; you probably dress up in star wars costumes too.
you obviously can't read good, I said a kung fu practioner from birth (ie a shaolin monk) could beat a UFC fighter in a fight to the death, I said I do mma sparring, not that I fight to the death, the kungfu practioners you see in UFC do a form called Sanshou,which is kickboxing like muay-thai,theres 229 forms of chinese wushu, that is the only 1 that is allowed, I'm talking about traditional kung fu ie the moves jet li performs in movies
Again, if you are too stupid to understand my point, which you apparently are, how the fuck do you know how a monk would fare in a fight to the death with an mma guy? You have NO FUCKING IDEA because you've never seen it; you're just another speculating dumb shit. What is not speculation is this, because it can be proven by reviewing the history of mma matches; kung fu fags consistently owned in mma events by men of all styles except maybe useless aikido. You don't "do" mma, you're a liar.
Umm yeeeah you can stfu with the kung fu insults^^. And Kung fu was designed for deadly strikes, hence the one, two , three pop a joint techniques. People seem to have forgotten this, a kung fu master is in it to win it, and focuses on the weakness of his opponents like the neck and other joints and arteries which would kill in a RL fight. Simple, Kung fu is just not designed for tournaments, but for taking the opponent down, and down for good O_O.
Some real stupid idiots in here. You've all been heavily influenced by kung fu movies. Others are obviously ghetto kung fu hip hop wannabes. Kung fu is shit, although it is deadly. It is deadly to the guy who is dumb enough to try and use it in a fight; could get him killed and at a minimum will get his ass beat and laughed at.
tjfnee88, you don't practise any martial arts, so your say doesn't count here, an mma student would beat a kung fu student, an mma pro would get killed by a kung fu master
you have no idea what I do or do not do. Please convince one of your kung fu master gods to prove himself. No will, ever, because they know better. Only guy who tried it was Jason Deluca; I give him credit for making a go of it. He was, however, pawned over and over again.
Ya whatever u dun know anything . i think u would even fail to learn anything because ur dumb u know NOTHING ABOUT MARTIAL ARTS Nothing . U Dun Learn anything so Shut the FUCK UP. If ur not Happy come to Singapore and look for me u Wanker . I will show u wad is Kung Fu .
tjfnee88 why don't u go to China? find out them by yourself,go to ShaoLin first, stand in front of their temple, yellow FXXX SHAOLIN, then go to Wudang & ER Mei do the same thing, GOOD LUCK haha
man shaolin is so relaxed lol hee doesnt seem to worry a bit.some says shaolin has no feeling wher it is dangerous or non sad or happy lol mayb dats true lol
Both of them (shaolin and Taekwondo) are master. For those people who say karate, Taekwondo and kung fu suck. Because those practioners are only students/beginners(lion cub) so they are suck in street/real fight(full grown hyena). But masters/grandmasters (full grown lion) can be survive or effective in real/street fight(full grown hyena).For those people if you like to challenge , please challenge to full grown lion (master), not lion cub(beginner). It will prove that your thought is wrong.
What the fuck are you talking about you freak? Ok give us the names of some "full grown lions" so matches can be set-up and they can be destroyed. I bet those masters won't even agree to fight. You're a retard.
I don't know where you guys get your information from about Kung Fu, but it is also very offensive, not only defensive, depends on the situation. The only reason the Kung Fu monk did not attack, is because he was trying to catch a moment to make a move that will not instantly kill him.
All of you guys are getting wrong about Shaolin martial arts. There is a saying in chinese, "All martial arts orginated in Shaolin." Shaolin philosophy is to defend rather than attack. Wait for attacker weaken and attack. TKD has too many weakness. That TKD guy cant even lay a finger on him if there was no ring that TKD will be running away already. TKD is just for show not pratical in martial arts.
Tjfnee: Your ignorance is astounding, as a MMA fighter myself it isn't about styles it about the martial artist being well rounded in diff style to handle whatever come at you but even bjj has it weeks point if you find yourself in a street fight and your owning your opponent one of his boys will take you out with a kick to the jaw "game over" at least kung fu and the like provide you with the versatility of taking on multiple attackers and what to do before your ass gets taken to the mat
Fucking moron jerseyboi77 fag. Take bjj for a few months, even if you're mediocre you can best a "kung fu" master; I've seen it many times. Also, if a kung fu fag can't even beat one guy, how do you expect him to beat three? I've yet to see one kung fu idiot put up a respectable fight. As for this monk, this fight looks staged; no hits landed, no actual contact, no real blocking, etc. Either staged or very, very soft. Monk wouldn't last five minutes against an mma trained fighter.
do u know what a kushu fighter is? and by the way cung le was the champion of sanshou which is a form of fullcontact wushu and for what i can see isnt he still undefeated in mma?
Still undefeated in MMA? In which tournaments? Post his fighting history, that is very easy to check. You probably have no clue whether he's fought in any mma tournaments; and by the way, this video is not an mma tournament. Sanshou sucks; sanshou fighters are regularly bitch slapped by mma guys. So, put your money where your mouth is, give us his full fighting history.
tifnee88: y wud they wanna hurtech ova shaolin guy wud knock a bjj guy out if the bjj guy cant pin him down bjj has many flaws where as shaolin fist or any other shaolin stle dont have many if any they give up their life training in dfence and offence they r taught to b patiant and wait for their enemy to make a fatal mistake coz all they need is 1 mistake even if its onli a mistake for a second they will c it and react knocking them out or even killing their enemy with 1 move
What is with these kung fu guys, they never attack. I was fighting shaolin dude and all he did was defend. So I stopped attacking, and guess what, he just stood there waiting for me to attack for almost an hour. By the way he agreed to spar so you would think he is going to do something.
MMA and Jiujutsu are marketed for sport and self defense. Kung fu is life or death, MMA is a tap out or shiny medal. I also do MMA/Muay Thai, and because of my kung fu, I always have the upper hand in sparring. They don't even know why they can't land a punch and I'm only of first rank.
i train in traditional peircing palm ba gua style and i know for a fact that you are not even permitted to enter any mma matches because of the fact that kung fu is designed over thousands of years to kill or disable. UFC etc. is a tournament with rules. Take away the rules and point systems and you have nothing. No one submits on the street, no one taps out, no one fights fair.
They don't allow you to enter tournaments because they don't want their sham training exposed for the fraud it is. You would also get seriously hurt. Anyway, come fight me, we'll post it on youtube...No holds barred and you can use all of your "life or death" kung fu...You'll be treated like a little bitch to a disgraceful pounding.
haha all of you are really ignorant. all it takes is one brazlian jiu-jitsu practitioner or judoka that has been studying for half the amount that guy has to take that guy down and submit him. and if he doesn't submit his bones are broken.
Dude, don't waste your time with kung fu. Anyone with grappling/mma experience will own you like a bitch. Go study judo, bjj, or something with a mix of grappling and strikes. Stay the hell away from useless time and cash wasting kung fu frauds. This monk would get treated like the bitch he is in the ufc ring.
To quote the theory behind Bruce Lee's custom style of kung foo(well one of them) "It's hard for someone with Judo training to get close enough for a grapple if you kick them every time they get close"
It is my humble opinion that all Martial Arts styles have merit and skill is really much more important than you're style
Bruce Lee never fought an MMA fight. The best karate guys, etc. have all been dominated in MMA venues while trying to "kick them every time they get close." That shit is not effective alone, must combine with grappling or be pounded like a punk bitch. And yes, we should disparage other martial arts because we've heard for years how kung fu "masters" cannot be beaten, etc. All kung fu "masters", "chi" fags, and "ki" queers have been exposed as frauds each time they step into the ring.
I really don't know what to say. You guys don't know anything about Asian history nor you guys understand anything about qi. The truth is, Shaolin martial art after the 60s are just wushu, looks good not really that pratical.
lol thats ignorant of you to say shaolin is her best there is... this monk is using a mix of alot of Martial arts, take Bruce lee for example... get your facts straight.
simple the monk was a better athlete then the TKD guy(all that meditation pays off) you can tell by looking at him(all confidence) win or lose it doent matter to him(he's in the moment)
shaolin kung fu is one of the oldest ancient martial arts. These monks train their whole lives to achieve such power, speed and mastering Chi. Of course he will win.
there's no point in battling over the net about who's style is best...if you wanna know then i suggest you find 2 masters who have trained equal # of hours and put their heart and soul into training and put them in a battle.
any style is good...it all depends on who you put forth to show it...
The monk is using fingerjabs alot it is good that he is not serious because fingerjabs is a very dangerous move espesially when they are used against the eyes.
I suppose you think you have magical powers too, huh? Please, please, please come fight me using your dim mak bullshit. I want to post a video of you getting abused like a punk bitch.
I see my post got deleted about the secret shaolin monk training... So I'll bring it up again. Why do shaolin monks hang ten pound bricks by their johnsons?
Okay I'm back for more drunken rants. What's teh deal with forms? I mean seriously, how is it any different from ballet, or Irish river dancing? Some chinese guy( with sore balls from brick abuse) dances around kicking the air like a nancy somehow makes him the deadliest fighter in the world?
There's a reason why monks stay the hell away from MMA, boxing, and Muay Thai fighters. 'Cause they know. These 'masters' would get there heads ripped off, inside and out of the ring.
Kung fu is not a practical form of fighting dude. Anyway, we can prove it. You come to my gym, use just your kung fu, and fight against me. If you beat me, I'll pay you 10k. We'll also record it and broadcast it on youtube. Are you interested?
This guy speaks the truth. Kung fu works on paper, not real life. The only way you get better by fighting is fighting, not hanging bricks by your nuts.
He's also wagering in 10k. That's some nice chump change. If I had as much confidence in Kung Fu as many of you claim, I'd be all over this fight in a second.
i bet 1million euros that this monk can kick ur ass without u even touching him!also muai thai isn't what i call martial art!this shit only teaches u endurance!and yes kung fu is about defending,but it's deadly.
Hmm, maybe the monk could win, but I doubt it. Seems like all these kung fu people are willing to offer up only other people to actually prove the effectiveness of kung fu. None of you so called kung fu masters is ever willing to do the dirty work yourselves. Typical cowardice. Well, it's because you know the truth; your "style" is worthless and for dancing only.
You overlook the simple truth that if martial arts were not effective, they would not have lasted as long through history as they have. Some styles have been around for over 2000 years. If they were really worthless, they would have vanished off the face of the planet 1900 years ago.
Anyway, I think everyone, or at least most sensible fights, know that "kung fu" is not for fighting; it's just the practice of forms; should be left to the women. If would be relieved to know in a real fight that the guy was a kung fu student who intended to use his kung fu skills. Also, why do kung fu guys always think they have mystical "chi" powers and such? Is it to make up for they fact that they can't fight? Complete nonesense.
Hmm, well, once he was done kicking, I'd just throw a double leg takedown on him, go to mount position, and light him up. This is the best example I've seen of any chinese martial arts; most "kung fu" masters are just embarrassing in a fight. Yet, even this guy couldn't withstand todays mixed martial artists, unless of course he's trained in mixed martial arts, which is not part of kung fu training.
10.chinese kingfu pay much attention to blok. actually dodge, by losing control weight center temporarily, is not encouraged. because dodge is not "attack in defends".
9.some guy said the monk throws his hands all over and blocks nothing. i think this guy is blunt to thinking. don't you think you will also throw your arms during fast moving? the only difference in this clip is that the monk had to block, so he throw the hands in front of his body, instead of besides body. and he successfully blocked.
Blocking that way's not very energy efficient. Do you know what happens if you block like that against a boxer/thai boxer? You eat some mean counter punches. Opening up his chin like that is retarded.
And yes you will throw your arms when your moving fast i.e. sprinting. But last time I checked, fighting isn't sprinting.
we should realize that the monk is in his attack position, and also, with speed, still accelerated! yet the tkd had no speed to avoid, saying nothing of accelerating, if he did not turn the outer direction and ran away. these last seconds clearly showes that the monk can dissolve the tkd kicking easily and counterattack immediately. the tkd kicing was too slow and weak, facing the monk.
yet the tkd had no speed to avoid, saying nothing of accelerating, if he did not turn the outer direction and ran away. these last seconds clearly showes that the monk can dissolve the tkd kicking easily and counterattack immediately. the tkd kicing was too slow and weak, facing the monk.
but i prefer to think that the monk's leg burst power was not that enough for him to make more forwards. nevertheless, his leg power was far better beyond than the tkd.
7. this clip also clearly shows the saying that shaolin kungfu is with more virility. the other kungfu, taiji, is more flexible, yet with unbelievable burst power, too.
now, what will you say about this clip? is it a competition? or is it just some cultural exchanging activity for friendship?
6. the monk also had his bug. he jump high excessively during 360 kick. this may be estimated as conservative consideration. he may thought that if he jump too horizontally forwards, he will be vulnerable during the air time. but we can see that the tkd had never thought of counterattack during dodging back. one reason may be like this.
5.another obvious fact is that, every time after the tkd using his back kick, he lose control of his body weight center. and he spent time, fairly long, to adjust it. and during this "golden period" for counterattack, the monk just stand there, waiting for the tkd tuning the body weight center.
so, he use the sequential 360 kick. after this 360, he obtained a new attacking position, and also, attacking place. on the other hand, during this attacking, the tkd had to dodge, with the neck over extending, and also the spine over extending, obviously losing control of body weight center.
the most fascinating thing is that he can control the weight center even during and immediately after rotating kick. many ones discussed about the 360 degree rotating kick. i don't think this kick was for direct attacking. the monk use this 360 kick just for a period to change the inferior position of body. we can see after the first quick enough kick, the monk's back was facing the tkd.
but he only show one of it, then ceased the attack. if the attack continue, i don't think the tkd will defend himself effectively.
4.control of body weight center is very important in fighting. we can see the shaolin had good control of it at any time. his upper body was always at a little forward position, even during stepping backwards. this means he can launch effective attack simultaneously!
if you see clearly, you can see after the shaolin blocked the first kicking of tkd, by touching the projected leg with both hands, the monk can keep control of the tkd's leg, this will lead to tilt down of the tkd, at least. but he did not control the leg. actually even at this time he can step close and launch an attack. if he do so, the tkd will lose the defending time, because he had to draw back his projected leg back and regain control of the weight center.
3. every time after the tkd kicking and the shaolin blocking, the monk had an opportunity to launch a counterattack at the very same time. but he didn't. i surely know that chinese kungfu is famous of "attack in defends". i can see clearly that the monk did not launch the simultaneous counterattack, because at the same time, the tkd fighter can not defend any attack, which will probably lead to badly injury.
What's this Bruce Lee crap all about? The guy's a movie ACTOR. That's like saying Arnold Schwarzeneggar really can raid tear up a military island all by himself like in Commando, and Harry potter can really fly a broomstick in real life.
Joking aside, these monks have no idea what they're doing. Why do they hang bricks by their balls? How does hanging a 10 pound brick by your nuts help out in a fight? I know chinese have tiny penis's but damn, there has got to be another way...
Bruce lee was an acctual fighter though, after they did interviews on him and he demonstrated the one inch punch and the ultimate side kick. They didnt interveiw arnold with an ak47 shooting the shit out of a whole s.w.a.t. force lol
Suspending weights from the genitalia (NOT just the scrotum) strengthens the fascia lining the body cavity. The most I've done is twenty pounds. The most I have seen done is 150. The most I have heard of is 600. You can't hurt those guys.
Wow this is by far the gayest thing I've ever seen This video clearly points out how the monk's terrified of being hit. When the TKD guy runs at him, he throws his hands all over the place, blocking nothing.
And as others have said, any Thai fighter with 2 montsh of training would eat these guys monks for breakfast.
Muay thai fighters are pretty basic. They build up there muscles and train to be tough then they get there experiance from punching round hous and kneeing in the ring. You can learn it in a week but they spend there time lifting weights
Wow, your observational skills are quite good, yeah he's clearly terrified there. Yeah, an actual shaolin monk would rape a thai fighter. Shaolin monks are warriors, not ring fighters or boxers.
Craziest thing I've heard a Thai fighter do is kick a steel pipe and break it, that's pretty cool. Craziest thing I've heard a monk do is hit a russian war horse and kill it (it was a palm strike too!) On a post-mortem they discovered that the horse had no external injuries but internally all of it's organs were shattered. Now that's crazy.
shaolin beats:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jteniktarace 4 months ago in playlist taekwondo vs
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Mscorpion001 1 year ago
shaolin monks would destroy mma fights they practice like hell when they are 2 years old
chakraDkills 1 year ago
@chakraDkills not true, they may train but they train a martial art that is very limited. they would get destroyed quick by a decent mma fighter. say i train throwing a right hook since birth, does that mean i can beat an mma fighter?
dangflo 1 year ago
@dangflo Not all shaolin monks would destroy mma fighters, its lame to say that. But shaolin monks train martial arts with the knowledge of virtue and practice for good health. Although both helps self defense, but they pursue differently. MMA might have more practical moves, but it doesn't do you any good towards your body health. Whereas, many martial arts will help in maintain good health. For example, Taichi.
jialin90 1 year ago
wow nice
Timx4 2 years ago
Good grief people this is for show. The TKD guy is a Yong In University TKD major. He's wiffing kicks 1, 2 feet over the monk's head on purpose because this is for show. The back and forth kicking that they're doing is a standard TKD drill. You try to put together attack combinations and then let the other guy go and back and forth.
melonbarmonster 3 years ago
In a real sparring match the monk would be on his ass. In any MA arts, it's the level of actual combat experience you have that matters in the end.
melonbarmonster 3 years ago
Taekwondo was made a long time ago before people started to fight dirty like punching someone on the floor, and yes i think actually taekwondo will lose against a wrestler in a ring match, i don't know about shaolin kung fu but a real taekwondo martial artist wouldn't just kick in a street fight.
uzpete 3 years ago
get real, a wrestler (freestyle/greco) could beat a monk. A high school wrestler even. The only reason kung fu is feared is becuz movies. Kung fu doesnt work in most real life circumstances, get real guys.
flameonme 3 years ago
i bet whatever you want that you can't even TOUCH a shaolin. He concentrates and when you don't expect it... BOOOOOM you're dead :D
loscabronesdelmoment 3 years ago
you obviously know nothing about shaolin monks, they can litterly hang themselves by there necks and break metal with there head... and break sticks with their balls, how many wrestlers can do that.
punkinchavland 3 years ago
i do know about shaolin monks, ok they can do all those stuff, but when it comes to fighting its a KO. No one will give them time to concentrate long and hard enough to even gather enuff strength to get socked in da face. MMA > Shaolin
flameonme 3 years ago
Yes but MMA guy still follow some rules, no eye gauging etc. Full fledged Kung fu is some nast stuff, snapping arms and stuff, not pretty.
Midnightrambler3760 2 years ago
Id have to say...
In the ring, a monk would get knocked out, in real life, an MMA super star would get killed... You cant beat someone that lives, drinks, eats and sleeps fighting sense they could walk... I dont think any MMA fighter would win in a legit fight to the death, agenst a shaolin monk. No one that goes to a MMA class twice a week is going to beat someone that even sleeps a special way to enhance combat toughness... Stop pretending your game is the best...
GuamKomudo 2 years ago
Actually in a real death fight I would put money on the monk only because those guys are crazy. Real kungfu is about guaging eyes, ripping testicles, throat punching and all sorts of dirty tactics that are practical nonetheless.
melonbarmonster 3 years ago
if these guys entered ufc they would be slaughtered.. sorry but those fancy kicks just dont work
flameonme 3 years ago
rofl! ufc fatzos can't touch the kungfu, and true kungfu masters have more power than the ufcs, can the UFC pull a truck, or a small private airplane with his penis? no
sYncZed 3 years ago
and thai boxing > all boxings in the world
sYncZed 3 years ago
have you ever seen the show human weapon, the main host is a UFC n BJJ fighter and basically in every eppisode he gets his arse kicked by these people who would be "slaugtered".
punkinchavland 3 years ago
one, its becuz they want to hype up their tv show. Two, its cuz in the show theres pankrtion (wrestling), Judo, Juijutsu, Boxing, Muay Thai. THOSE are the ones that work, and are proven to work in the ring. However, most traditional martial arts are BS. I would know, I have studied Teakwondo, then during high school I joined the wrestling team and began doing juijutsu. Have you ever seen anyone in UFC thats good that knows kung fu? No? Alright then. Sanshou works, because its realistic kungfu
flameonme 3 years ago
yeh,shaolin kung fu is the best tho bcoz of all the iron neck training and stuff like that.
punkinchavland 3 years ago
@flameonme come to asia fight the monks and talk . don't say BS i've seen tkd guys knock mma guys out here in Asia MMA is BS if you wanna put it that way . our empty hand form is just a part of the whole art which includes our weapon training . oh ya i am learning san shou . sanshou is a mix of tma and boxing , lots of move are from hun gar . shuai jiao , qin na . shaolin monk choose the best of any art and put it together for the army .juijitsu cam from judo which came from china dumbfool .
Wingchunskunk 11 months ago
That was true about 5 to 10 years ago but it's been a while since the dominance of the grapplers and BJJ in MMA has faded. Strikers and well rounded fighters have been knocking out opponents with kicks for some years now. You need to know how to kick these days in UFC, and even more so in the new Pride whatever they call it now.
melonbarmonster 3 years ago
i heard it is forbidden for shoalin monks to fight
MysteryPisser 4 years ago
maybe not all shaolins are monks?
punkinchavland 3 years ago
good point, i stand corrected
MysteryPisser 3 years ago
this is not fighting, it's sparring :)
Svendsor 2 years ago
cmon!!!shaolin use their inner strength or sumting like dat...but the tkd use phisycl strength....of course the tkd master would lose!!
aretjik 4 years ago
i heard that in this fight, the shaolin was forbiden to use his fists, cause he could have killed his adversary with one punch or something like that !!
tzanegmr 4 years ago
Dude I would want to spar that monk just to get my ass kicked by him. That guy is a true bad ass.
sasukeshippuden 4 years ago
the kung fu guy has lightning reflexes, but the video quality is shit
MysteryPisser 4 years ago
good Christ !
Rich141288Trex 4 years ago
I Like shaolin !!! Fuck TKD real shit
luchodeni9 4 years ago
there is no second thought who were the real master also contolleed the whole fight if had wanted could end the fight truly sort
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HotCaliGirl1765 4 years ago
The Shaolin monks have made some fame for themselves through their fighting skill; this is all due to having obtained this manuscript.[7]
The oldest evidence of Shaolin participation in combat is a stele from 728 that attests to two occasions: a defense of the monastery from bandits around 610 and their role in the defeat of Wang Shichong at the Battle of Hulao in 621.
THUS SHAOLIN IS THE OLDEST RECORDED MARTIAL ART!!
crazynigger22 4 years ago
Shaolin is not the oldest recorded martial art. Boxing is. Basic punching skills invented by the Sumerians and Egyptians carried to Sparta and Athens carried to India carried to CHina. And evolved. ALWAYS EVOLVED!
Myderion 4 years ago
yah anyone and everyone knows how to punch no matter what period of time it is.
ZuiLung 4 years ago
Yep... a martial art doesn't just involve combat...otherwise it would be called Martial Combat. THe Art is everything else... :D
Myderion 4 years ago
after Bodhidharma faced the wall for nine years at Shaolin temple, he, according to the history, left behind an iron chest; when the monks opened this chest they found the two books "Marrow Cleansing Classic"[5] and "Muscle Change Classic"[6] within. The first book was taken by his disciple Huike, and disappeared; as for the second, "the monks selfishly coveted it, practicing the skills therein, falling into heterodox ways, and losing the correct purpose of cultivating the Real.
crazynigger22 4 years ago
According to the Jingde Records of the Transmission of the Lamp, after Bodhidharma leaves the court of the Liang emperor Wu in 527, he eventually finds himself at the Shaolin Monastery, where he "faced a wall for nine years, not speaking for the entire time".
According to the Yì Jīn Jīng,
crazynigger22 4 years ago
omfg you guys are so dumb tkd is the ORIGINAL 1 cause first of all taekwondo was made in korea in 1605 and the japanese copied koreans by making karate and the budist monk are lets say the cant do budist palm witch is wat a budist secret move is
omfgthisisutube 4 years ago
Karate was invented through Chinese people not Korean people. Get ur facts straight.
Myderion 4 years ago
Karate was originated from Ryukyu Islands of Southern Japan. Didn't you know?
frce68 4 years ago
Karate was enhanced but was discovered through the Chinese when missionaries went to Japan. That's why Karate meant CHINA HAND now it was changed to Empty hand! Durf!!!!
Myderion 4 years ago
no it's basically chinese MA that was practiced by the ryukyuans who considered japanese as barbarians and chinese as civilized.
melonbarmonster 3 years ago
tkd fucking sucks and so does karate. as all of you should know, shaolin kung fu is the origin of all martial arts and it is the greatest martial art of all time. check the sources if you must.
crazynigger22 4 years ago 2
That i agree with you on ;) rofl
Myderion 4 years ago
ofcours
ZuiLung 4 years ago
hmm it is fake. kung fu munks must not fight in that kinds of competition. and that is taekwondo not karate.
tkdliron 4 years ago
damn that bald guy is fast
wolfman290 4 years ago
I love it when people have arguments on the "comments" section i think its hilarious. Youboth sound like you want to kill each other ove a fucking video clip. LOL
14mm2 4 years ago
the varman as it was mentioned ,originated india, the at a young age students are taught how to learn, then taught the art, an 8th dgr. b.b. in k. or t.k.d would rate under the level of 12yr old child, true k.f., more a relation to varman, perfected in china...
zyx645 4 years ago
the shaolin guy has some impressive skills, but how did they make him fighting ... i thought shaolin are not allowed to fight unless they're attacked
SoundHamster 4 years ago
Exibition.
Myderion 4 years ago
to tjfnee88:
If you say kung fu is useless, you are wrong.If you face the student of kung fu, taekwondo or karate, you may be can defeat them easily. But if you face the master of kung fu ,taekwondo or karate, you will kill them by one hit.Then you will go to the heaven. Finally, in the heaven, you may say "I should not look down kung fu, taekwondo or karate before dead."
xiaoxiao19 4 years ago
First, you make no fucking sense at all. Yes, if I see a "kung fu" master, I will kill him with one hit; that is the only thing you said that has any truth to it. Secondly, I have the right to insult any fraudulent motherfucker I want. And this video is staged, it's a fraud, not a real fight, contrived, bullshit, etc. Aside from that, kungfooey jerks are constantly owned by most other MA styles. So fuck you.
tjfnee88 4 years ago
tjfnee88 no matter how muscly/tall/fat/skinny/skilled an mma fighter they can't hide or protect their pressurepoints,everyone has them,and in traditional gongfu(not the amateur kung fu fighters in ufc) you are trained to take advantage of those pressure points,so even if a kung fu fighter landed a "fluky" hit on those pressure points you'd go down like a sack of horse shit,if they abolished all rules apart from eye and scrot shots in mma fighters kung fu would more than likely dominate
pointsnipe 4 years ago
and tjfnee i know what you're talking about,most kung fu fighters who enter mma fights jsut get grounded and pounded,but traditional kung fu practioners(monks etc) are alot faster and stronger than the poncy fruity shrimps of kung fu fighters who enter ufc so they won't get ground and pounded easily
pointsnipe 4 years ago
First, there have been plenty of mma fights where all your bullshit was allowed; eye gouges, etc. Result = kungfooey owned by mma. Besides, eye gouges etc are not the core attacks of kungfooey. Pressure points can be used in any of the ufc matches; no one does because they are useless. Finally, your monk would be owned and sent back to china in a box.
tjfnee88 4 years ago
ROFLCOPTERTJFNEE88MAKESMELOLINRLi love the way you defend your"uber 1337"mma fighters,all martial arts originated from kung fu and karate so wheneveryou say "kungfooey" is shit yoursaying muay-thai,kickboxing,jiujitsu,judo are shit aswell,the first ever martial art was varmam,and was indian,then it went to china and china called it kung fu,then it spread to other countries,japan called itkarate then korea called karate taekwondo,
pointsnipe 4 years ago
Fucking moron. Wrestling, boxing, and kicking have been a part of nearly every culuture from primitive times. The American Indians, sub saharan Africans, ancient Greeks, Romans, Galic peoples, Celtic and pre-Celtic peoples, etc. Kungfooey was different in that it imitated the movements of animals. Otherwise, no, all fighting/grappling techinques did not originate in china or with kungfooey. Different cultures developed them on their own you fucking simpleton idiot.
tjfnee88 4 years ago
from now on i'm going to reply to all your comments with "lol" because that's what it makes me do when i read the nonsense you make up, and seriously, stop defending other ma's as if you have fought in mma matches and have studied martial arts, you're an old man who spends most of his time argueing with people over the internet, post a video of you "owning" a shaolin monk you big paedo
pointsnipe 4 years ago
say what you like super fag. Bottom line, all fighting styles or martial arts did NOT originate with kungfooey. You can't even say for certain that oriental martial arts originated with kungfooey; that is just theory. You're an uneducated slob and a cunting fool.
tjfnee88 4 years ago
better watch out, lolpatrol r gonna scout you out in their roflcopter.
LOLIPOPTER!!!121!1ONEONE
pointsnipe 4 years ago
to tifnee88:
What style of martial art did you learn? You have the right to dislike kung fu but not insult kung fu students and masters.
xiaoxiao19 4 years ago
You people need to watch sanshou videos before you bash kung fu. An art is not limited by a name. Bruce Lee was a student of Wing Chun and Chuck Norris has admitted that whenever they sparred, Bruce won. Look it up. Every martial art has their strengths and weaknesses.
ooglabosh 4 years ago
sanshou sure doesn't look anything like kung fu to me; looks like thai boxing with some throws allowed. Also, sanshou certainly is not "traditional" or classical in any sense; it was made up to compete with thai boxers. If that is kung fu, no reason to study any forms, etc. You can just train some judo and thai boxing and you're fine; no need for any silly forms or kung fu BS to compete in sanshou.
tjfnee88 4 years ago
I can't even begin to fathom the "Kung Fu true believer" bullshit coming out here.
If Shaolin arts are "teh deadly" then why do we never see them win in NHB competition?
Combat sports > Martial arts.
A rounded athletic sports fighter is going to absolutely RUIN a Kung Fu fanboy.
How do I know this? I used to be one.
kungfucolin 5 years ago
to tjfnee88:
Korean martial art(such as Taekwondo) and Japanese martial art(such as judo, karate,aikido) are greatly influenced by Chinese martial art (kung fu).Muay Thai is partly influenced by kung fu but not as much as japanese and korean martial art. Chinese martial art have lots of styles than other countries. Traditional martial art such as kung fu , karate, judo have more history than mma.
xiaoxiao19 5 years ago
Yes Agree . There are lots of Kung Fu Styles out there some are Lost . To tjfnee88 u DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING SO SHUT UP AND STOP TRYING TO ACT LIKE U KNOW MARTIAL ARTS.
HayatoFernandes 5 years ago
Well, I know enough about martial arts to know that kung fuooey is consistently owned by mma fighters; owned again and again and again. Owned in fights with rules and in fights with no rules. Why is that? It's because it is TOTAL and COMPLETE bullshit. So fuck you.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
u fucking Shit. Kung fu is not allowed to kill a person . if u see a real kung fu fight (which u haven see) in china u will know . whatever u one to belive . .if u dun belive what can i do ....
HayatoFernandes 5 years ago
Hayatofernandes why should I go to china when I can see a "real" kung fu fight right here on youtube? This is what the chinese of the time hailed as an epic clash between great masters; one kung fu, the other tai chi (as if tai chi could be used in a fight anyway). You should look it up here; it is one of the most pathetic fights I have ever seen. It's obvious that neither loser has ever been in a fight in his life. Kung Fooey is TOTAL BULLSHIT.
tjfnee88 4 years ago
or maybe u are bullshit . if u think tai chi can't fight i think u should go fight a tai chi master and see wad happen u DUMBASS
HayatoFernandes 4 years ago
You know what xioxiao19 you stupid bitch, I'm not here to study the history of martial arts. I'm here to determine which ones are useful and can back up their claims and which are just complete bullshit. So far, CMA not able to back up any claims; everything we know about kung fu is all just myth, legend, and hollywood. You're a dumb fucking idiot.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
Mope u asshole ! u dun haven even been to china how u now .
HayatoFernandes 4 years ago
to pointsnipe :
I totally agree with you that pro mma have no match to kung fu master.
to tjfnee88 :
mma is not unbeatable martial art. If a person is very skillful at one single style of martial art such as taekwondo, karate or kung fu. He can kill mma pro and mma student by one hit.
xiaoxiao19 5 years ago
NINJUTSU FTW
LordKaramazov 5 years ago
hes saying that a beginner martial artist( lion cub) wouldn't stand a chance against an attacker in a street fight(a full grown hyena) but someone who has practised martial arts for years(a fully grown lion) would rip a fully grown hyena apart its not that hard 2 understand
pointsnipe 5 years ago
A simplistic explanation from a simplistic mind. Kung fu idiots stay the hell away from mma events because they have all been owned. We don't know how monks fight because they never compete. Don't tell me they don't because they are "peaceful"; there is myth after myth after myth about shoalin monks fighting in wars, fantastic duels, and many other instances of participation in combat. They don't fight because it is all just that myth; they would be OWNED if they went into mma.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
lol you truly are an idiot,I study muaythai,karate and kungfu,and can easily say kung fu is far more deadly in a fight to the death,hardly any traces of kungfu are used in mmafighting because its targeted at the throat and vital organs,muaythai and karate kickboxing is used in mma fights because it is sport and there are rules,if it was a fight to the death, no rules, a shaolin monk would easily take on up to 2 mma champion fighters, search,"true power of shaolin kung fu" if you don't believeme
pointsnipe 5 years ago
I believe that you "think" you're right because you are so weak minded that you have bought into the CMA mystique. Too bad for you it's all just a waste of time and money. First few UFCS had no rules except no biting or eye gouging. Is biting part of your practice? Fucking idiot, good luck ever getting a neck strike or any other of your fantasy techniques in a real fight; it's obvious you've never been in one geek.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
hmm,I do mma sparring every week,BTW whenever you actually decide to leave your computer and learn a martial art,then I'll consider your opinion,you obviously have no mma fighting experience and don't know squat about strengths and weakness of the human body,so in these first few UFCs were you allowed to kill the other fighter?yeah i didn't think so,I said fight to the death you dumb shit
pointsnipe 5 years ago
Fight to the death? How many fights to the death have you been in? I would like to know that, and your local law enforcement authorities probably would too. I doubt you have done any mma, you sound full of shit to me. Just another cma nerd; you probably dress up in star wars costumes too.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
you obviously can't read good, I said a kung fu practioner from birth (ie a shaolin monk) could beat a UFC fighter in a fight to the death, I said I do mma sparring, not that I fight to the death, the kungfu practioners you see in UFC do a form called Sanshou,which is kickboxing like muay-thai,theres 229 forms of chinese wushu, that is the only 1 that is allowed, I'm talking about traditional kung fu ie the moves jet li performs in movies
pointsnipe 5 years ago
Again, if you are too stupid to understand my point, which you apparently are, how the fuck do you know how a monk would fare in a fight to the death with an mma guy? You have NO FUCKING IDEA because you've never seen it; you're just another speculating dumb shit. What is not speculation is this, because it can be proven by reviewing the history of mma matches; kung fu fags consistently owned in mma events by men of all styles except maybe useless aikido. You don't "do" mma, you're a liar.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
Umm yeeeah you can stfu with the kung fu insults^^. And Kung fu was designed for deadly strikes, hence the one, two , three pop a joint techniques. People seem to have forgotten this, a kung fu master is in it to win it, and focuses on the weakness of his opponents like the neck and other joints and arteries which would kill in a RL fight. Simple, Kung fu is just not designed for tournaments, but for taking the opponent down, and down for good O_O.
Brandonisrad18 5 years ago
Agree wif u .
HayatoFernandes 5 years ago
U Fucking shit ur arts is Shit WEAK !!!! Kung Fu is the BEST U Sack of Shit
HayatoFernandes 5 years ago
Some real stupid idiots in here. You've all been heavily influenced by kung fu movies. Others are obviously ghetto kung fu hip hop wannabes. Kung fu is shit, although it is deadly. It is deadly to the guy who is dumb enough to try and use it in a fight; could get him killed and at a minimum will get his ass beat and laughed at.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
tjfnee88, you don't practise any martial arts, so your say doesn't count here, an mma student would beat a kung fu student, an mma pro would get killed by a kung fu master
pointsnipe 5 years ago
you have no idea what I do or do not do. Please convince one of your kung fu master gods to prove himself. No will, ever, because they know better. Only guy who tried it was Jason Deluca; I give him credit for making a go of it. He was, however, pawned over and over again.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
so all things aside what wins, a punch to the face and a shin kick OR a chop to the jugular and an elbow between the ribs? omgkthxbi
pointsnipe 5 years ago
Ya whatever u dun know anything . i think u would even fail to learn anything because ur dumb u know NOTHING ABOUT MARTIAL ARTS Nothing . U Dun Learn anything so Shut the FUCK UP. If ur not Happy come to Singapore and look for me u Wanker . I will show u wad is Kung Fu .
HayatoFernandes 5 years ago
tjfnee88 why don't u go to China? find out them by yourself,go to ShaoLin first, stand in front of their temple, yellow FXXX SHAOLIN, then go to Wudang & ER Mei do the same thing, GOOD LUCK haha
hippo314 5 years ago
man shaolin is so relaxed lol hee doesnt seem to worry a bit.some says shaolin has no feeling wher it is dangerous or non sad or happy lol mayb dats true lol
ghetto3san 5 years ago
Both of them (shaolin and Taekwondo) are master. For those people who say karate, Taekwondo and kung fu suck. Because those practioners are only students/beginners(lion cub) so they are suck in street/real fight(full grown hyena). But masters/grandmasters (full grown lion) can be survive or effective in real/street fight(full grown hyena).For those people if you like to challenge , please challenge to full grown lion (master), not lion cub(beginner). It will prove that your thought is wrong.
xiaoxiao19 5 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about you freak? Ok give us the names of some "full grown lions" so matches can be set-up and they can be destroyed. I bet those masters won't even agree to fight. You're a retard.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
I don't know where you guys get your information from about Kung Fu, but it is also very offensive, not only defensive, depends on the situation. The only reason the Kung Fu monk did not attack, is because he was trying to catch a moment to make a move that will not instantly kill him.
REVOS5 5 years ago
so awesome the monk seemed so frigin relaxed wish i could fight in my tournements that relaxed
kakshe 5 years ago
i've done shaolin and if you really understand it and are a real master of it, then you are unstoppable. ufc fighters would go down in seconds.
zoroloco 5 years ago
All of you guys are getting wrong about Shaolin martial arts. There is a saying in chinese, "All martial arts orginated in Shaolin." Shaolin philosophy is to defend rather than attack. Wait for attacker weaken and attack. TKD has too many weakness. That TKD guy cant even lay a finger on him if there was no ring that TKD will be running away already. TKD is just for show not pratical in martial arts.
spike378 5 years ago
didnt seem like the shaolin guy could land any hits either-_-
KumoNaruto 5 years ago
Tjfnee: Your ignorance is astounding, as a MMA fighter myself it isn't about styles it about the martial artist being well rounded in diff style to handle whatever come at you but even bjj has it weeks point if you find yourself in a street fight and your owning your opponent one of his boys will take you out with a kick to the jaw "game over" at least kung fu and the like provide you with the versatility of taking on multiple attackers and what to do before your ass gets taken to the mat
jerseyboi77 5 years ago
Fucking moron jerseyboi77 fag. Take bjj for a few months, even if you're mediocre you can best a "kung fu" master; I've seen it many times. Also, if a kung fu fag can't even beat one guy, how do you expect him to beat three? I've yet to see one kung fu idiot put up a respectable fight. As for this monk, this fight looks staged; no hits landed, no actual contact, no real blocking, etc. Either staged or very, very soft. Monk wouldn't last five minutes against an mma trained fighter.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
lol ill give him 3 seconds and he would break youre legs. if a kushu fighter would go up agains an mma fighter he would break his legs and arms.
Holomatchi 5 years ago
You're a dumb fuck. Live in the real world.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
do u know what a kushu fighter is? and by the way cung le was the champion of sanshou which is a form of fullcontact wushu and for what i can see isnt he still undefeated in mma?
Holomatchi 5 years ago
Still undefeated in MMA? In which tournaments? Post his fighting history, that is very easy to check. You probably have no clue whether he's fought in any mma tournaments; and by the way, this video is not an mma tournament. Sanshou sucks; sanshou fighters are regularly bitch slapped by mma guys. So, put your money where your mouth is, give us his full fighting history.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
tifnee88: y wud they wanna hurtech ova shaolin guy wud knock a bjj guy out if the bjj guy cant pin him down bjj has many flaws where as shaolin fist or any other shaolin stle dont have many if any they give up their life training in dfence and offence they r taught to b patiant and wait for their enemy to make a fatal mistake coz all they need is 1 mistake even if its onli a mistake for a second they will c it and react knocking them out or even killing their enemy with 1 move
jokz01 5 years ago
What is with these kung fu guys, they never attack. I was fighting shaolin dude and all he did was defend. So I stopped attacking, and guess what, he just stood there waiting for me to attack for almost an hour. By the way he agreed to spar so you would think he is going to do something.
listerineiscool 5 years ago
MMA and Jiujutsu are marketed for sport and self defense. Kung fu is life or death, MMA is a tap out or shiny medal. I also do MMA/Muay Thai, and because of my kung fu, I always have the upper hand in sparring. They don't even know why they can't land a punch and I'm only of first rank.
MrDow123 5 years ago
i train in traditional peircing palm ba gua style and i know for a fact that you are not even permitted to enter any mma matches because of the fact that kung fu is designed over thousands of years to kill or disable. UFC etc. is a tournament with rules. Take away the rules and point systems and you have nothing. No one submits on the street, no one taps out, no one fights fair.
MrDow123 5 years ago
They don't allow you to enter tournaments because they don't want their sham training exposed for the fraud it is. You would also get seriously hurt. Anyway, come fight me, we'll post it on youtube...No holds barred and you can use all of your "life or death" kung fu...You'll be treated like a little bitch to a disgraceful pounding.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
I would like to see all the people who commented down there about what would own what to fight these two, and then see. Talk is cheap, gentlemen.
sybercat6 5 years ago
haha all of you are really ignorant. all it takes is one brazlian jiu-jitsu practitioner or judoka that has been studying for half the amount that guy has to take that guy down and submit him. and if he doesn't submit his bones are broken.
constellationcancer 5 years ago
Im a taekwondo practitioner trying to move onto kung fu, watching tkd people get beat , especialy against kung fu peeps help me alot
RightHo00ok 5 years ago
Dude, don't waste your time with kung fu. Anyone with grappling/mma experience will own you like a bitch. Go study judo, bjj, or something with a mix of grappling and strikes. Stay the hell away from useless time and cash wasting kung fu frauds. This monk would get treated like the bitch he is in the ufc ring.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
To quote the theory behind Bruce Lee's custom style of kung foo(well one of them) "It's hard for someone with Judo training to get close enough for a grapple if you kick them every time they get close"
It is my humble opinion that all Martial Arts styles have merit and skill is really much more important than you're style
Zairron 5 years ago
Bruce Lee never fought an MMA fight. The best karate guys, etc. have all been dominated in MMA venues while trying to "kick them every time they get close." That shit is not effective alone, must combine with grappling or be pounded like a punk bitch. And yes, we should disparage other martial arts because we've heard for years how kung fu "masters" cannot be beaten, etc. All kung fu "masters", "chi" fags, and "ki" queers have been exposed as frauds each time they step into the ring.
tjfnee88 5 years ago
MMA are better.
floydmayweatherjr 5 years ago
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I really don't know what to say. You guys don't know anything about Asian history nor you guys understand anything about qi. The truth is, Shaolin martial art after the 60s are just wushu, looks good not really that pratical.
thunderrazor 5 years ago
All of you are stupid.
constellationcancer 5 years ago
I agree, 90% of these guys are not even martial artist and if they are prolly haven't even trained for more than 5 years yet
theonlykaratemaster 5 years ago
lol thats ignorant of you to say shaolin is her best there is... this monk is using a mix of alot of Martial arts, take Bruce lee for example... get your facts straight.
753951858 5 years ago
simple the monk was a better athlete then the TKD guy(all that meditation pays off) you can tell by looking at him(all confidence) win or lose it doent matter to him(he's in the moment)
roninpainbringer 5 years ago
wow,that kung-fu guy have some fast deadly kick techniques,
maybe he will someday come to fight in ufc
semtyo 5 years ago
shaolin kung fu is one of the oldest ancient martial arts. These monks train their whole lives to achieve such power, speed and mastering Chi. Of course he will win.
frenzydee 5 years ago
Ninjutsu is deadlier than Kung fu.. I think.. Haha!
knivesm4a1 5 years ago
why dont u guys respect each ones style...
there's no point in battling over the net about who's style is best...if you wanna know then i suggest you find 2 masters who have trained equal # of hours and put their heart and soul into training and put them in a battle.
any style is good...it all depends on who you put forth to show it...
PrinceSouriya 5 years ago
The monk is using fingerjabs alot it is good that he is not serious because fingerjabs is a very dangerous move espesially when they are used against the eyes.
mandag34 5 years ago
I suppose you think you have magical powers too, huh? Please, please, please come fight me using your dim mak bullshit. I want to post a video of you getting abused like a punk bitch.
thredd55 5 years ago
I see my post got deleted about the secret shaolin monk training... So I'll bring it up again. Why do shaolin monks hang ten pound bricks by their johnsons?
boxingchamp17 5 years ago
Okay I'm back for more drunken rants. What's teh deal with forms? I mean seriously, how is it any different from ballet, or Irish river dancing? Some chinese guy( with sore balls from brick abuse) dances around kicking the air like a nancy somehow makes him the deadliest fighter in the world?
There's a reason why monks stay the hell away from MMA, boxing, and Muay Thai fighters. 'Cause they know. These 'masters' would get there heads ripped off, inside and out of the ring.
boxingchamp17 5 years ago
Kung fu is not a practical form of fighting dude. Anyway, we can prove it. You come to my gym, use just your kung fu, and fight against me. If you beat me, I'll pay you 10k. We'll also record it and broadcast it on youtube. Are you interested?
thredd44 5 years ago
This guy speaks the truth. Kung fu works on paper, not real life. The only way you get better by fighting is fighting, not hanging bricks by your nuts.
He's also wagering in 10k. That's some nice chump change. If I had as much confidence in Kung Fu as many of you claim, I'd be all over this fight in a second.
boxingchamp17 5 years ago
i bet 1million euros that this monk can kick ur ass without u even touching him!also muai thai isn't what i call martial art!this shit only teaches u endurance!and yes kung fu is about defending,but it's deadly.
oblivion4lcf 5 years ago
Hmm, maybe the monk could win, but I doubt it. Seems like all these kung fu people are willing to offer up only other people to actually prove the effectiveness of kung fu. None of you so called kung fu masters is ever willing to do the dirty work yourselves. Typical cowardice. Well, it's because you know the truth; your "style" is worthless and for dancing only.
thredd44 5 years ago
You overlook the simple truth that if martial arts were not effective, they would not have lasted as long through history as they have. Some styles have been around for over 2000 years. If they were really worthless, they would have vanished off the face of the planet 1900 years ago.
uuumdm 5 years ago
thredd44, you know something about chinese kung fu.
yes, lowering body and stepping on immediately. this is most useful during fighting. then you can either hit the gut, anywhere, or just mount him up.
chioushiou 5 years ago
Anyway, I think everyone, or at least most sensible fights, know that "kung fu" is not for fighting; it's just the practice of forms; should be left to the women. If would be relieved to know in a real fight that the guy was a kung fu student who intended to use his kung fu skills. Also, why do kung fu guys always think they have mystical "chi" powers and such? Is it to make up for they fact that they can't fight? Complete nonesense.
thredd44 5 years ago
hardly complete nonsense
mkoiujm 5 years ago
Chi is the deepest form of physical living power in existance. Few people understand the concept of chi. Even fewer know how to use it.
uuumdm 5 years ago
Hmm, well, once he was done kicking, I'd just throw a double leg takedown on him, go to mount position, and light him up. This is the best example I've seen of any chinese martial arts; most "kung fu" masters are just embarrassing in a fight. Yet, even this guy couldn't withstand todays mixed martial artists, unless of course he's trained in mixed martial arts, which is not part of kung fu training.
thredd44 5 years ago
10.chinese kingfu pay much attention to blok. actually dodge, by losing control weight center temporarily, is not encouraged. because dodge is not "attack in defends".
chioushiou 5 years ago
9.some guy said the monk throws his hands all over and blocks nothing. i think this guy is blunt to thinking. don't you think you will also throw your arms during fast moving? the only difference in this clip is that the monk had to block, so he throw the hands in front of his body, instead of besides body. and he successfully blocked.
chioushiou 5 years ago
Blocking that way's not very energy efficient. Do you know what happens if you block like that against a boxer/thai boxer? You eat some mean counter punches. Opening up his chin like that is retarded.
And yes you will throw your arms when your moving fast i.e. sprinting. But last time I checked, fighting isn't sprinting.
boxingchamp17 5 years ago
we should realize that the monk is in his attack position, and also, with speed, still accelerated! yet the tkd had no speed to avoid, saying nothing of accelerating, if he did not turn the outer direction and ran away. these last seconds clearly showes that the monk can dissolve the tkd kicking easily and counterattack immediately. the tkd kicing was too slow and weak, facing the monk.
chioushiou 5 years ago
some sentences leaked away between my third and fourth comments. but it seems i can't correct them. :(
chioushiou 5 years ago
yet the tkd had no speed to avoid, saying nothing of accelerating, if he did not turn the outer direction and ran away. these last seconds clearly showes that the monk can dissolve the tkd kicking easily and counterattack immediately. the tkd kicing was too slow and weak, facing the monk.
some sentences leaked away. i will correct them.
chioushiou 5 years ago
but i prefer to think that the monk's leg burst power was not that enough for him to make more forwards. nevertheless, his leg power was far better beyond than the tkd.
7. this clip also clearly shows the saying that shaolin kungfu is with more virility. the other kungfu, taiji, is more flexible, yet with unbelievable burst power, too.
now, what will you say about this clip? is it a competition? or is it just some cultural exchanging activity for friendship?
chioushiou 5 years ago
6. the monk also had his bug. he jump high excessively during 360 kick. this may be estimated as conservative consideration. he may thought that if he jump too horizontally forwards, he will be vulnerable during the air time. but we can see that the tkd had never thought of counterattack during dodging back. one reason may be like this.
chioushiou 5 years ago
5.another obvious fact is that, every time after the tkd using his back kick, he lose control of his body weight center. and he spent time, fairly long, to adjust it. and during this "golden period" for counterattack, the monk just stand there, waiting for the tkd tuning the body weight center.
chioushiou 5 years ago
so, he use the sequential 360 kick. after this 360, he obtained a new attacking position, and also, attacking place. on the other hand, during this attacking, the tkd had to dodge, with the neck over extending, and also the spine over extending, obviously losing control of body weight center.
chioushiou 5 years ago
the most fascinating thing is that he can control the weight center even during and immediately after rotating kick. many ones discussed about the 360 degree rotating kick. i don't think this kick was for direct attacking. the monk use this 360 kick just for a period to change the inferior position of body. we can see after the first quick enough kick, the monk's back was facing the tkd.
chioushiou 5 years ago
but he only show one of it, then ceased the attack. if the attack continue, i don't think the tkd will defend himself effectively.
4.control of body weight center is very important in fighting. we can see the shaolin had good control of it at any time. his upper body was always at a little forward position, even during stepping backwards. this means he can launch effective attack simultaneously!
chioushiou 5 years ago
if you see clearly, you can see after the shaolin blocked the first kicking of tkd, by touching the projected leg with both hands, the monk can keep control of the tkd's leg, this will lead to tilt down of the tkd, at least. but he did not control the leg. actually even at this time he can step close and launch an attack. if he do so, the tkd will lose the defending time, because he had to draw back his projected leg back and regain control of the weight center.
chioushiou 5 years ago
3. every time after the tkd kicking and the shaolin blocking, the monk had an opportunity to launch a counterattack at the very same time. but he didn't. i surely know that chinese kungfu is famous of "attack in defends". i can see clearly that the monk did not launch the simultaneous counterattack, because at the same time, the tkd fighter can not defend any attack, which will probably lead to badly injury.
chioushiou 5 years ago
1. tkd fighter lose defensive capacity every time immediately after kicking, what ever type of kicking.
because the kicking caused changing of his body weight center dramatically, he had to tune it before he can organize any attack or effective defends.
2. the shaolin fighter had a well control of his body weight center, which enabled him to launch any attack at any time, if he like.
chioushiou 5 years ago
boxingchamp is a retard, period.
eggtotheroll 5 years ago
boxingchamp17-could you please open your mind?
Siegfried33 5 years ago
yes well i a black belt in tkd and i think kung fu and tkd are both very very cool....ps it does not matter what style you do its how good you are
danimo22552255 5 years ago
man
where the hell can i find the full fight ?!
obviously the shaolin won
costtta 5 years ago
oo i wanna learn shaolin kung fu
mats1292 5 years ago
no one can bit the real master of martial arts.. JIA YOU!!! go Shaolin KUNG FU.. gooo WUSHU.. JIA YOU!!
tineshawny 5 years ago
i seem b4 shoalin vs taekwondo match,world champion is shaolin Kung Fu no other martial art can win it yes i like it shaolin kung fu
JonathanLoo 5 years ago
What's this Bruce Lee crap all about? The guy's a movie ACTOR. That's like saying Arnold Schwarzeneggar really can raid tear up a military island all by himself like in Commando, and Harry potter can really fly a broomstick in real life.
Joking aside, these monks have no idea what they're doing. Why do they hang bricks by their balls? How does hanging a 10 pound brick by your nuts help out in a fight? I know chinese have tiny penis's but damn, there has got to be another way...
boxingchamp17 5 years ago
Bruce lee was an acctual fighter though, after they did interviews on him and he demonstrated the one inch punch and the ultimate side kick. They didnt interveiw arnold with an ak47 shooting the shit out of a whole s.w.a.t. force lol
liquidmeat 5 years ago
Suspending weights from the genitalia (NOT just the scrotum) strengthens the fascia lining the body cavity. The most I've done is twenty pounds. The most I have seen done is 150. The most I have heard of is 600. You can't hurt those guys.
steve0281 5 years ago
Wow this is by far the gayest thing I've ever seen This video clearly points out how the monk's terrified of being hit. When the TKD guy runs at him, he throws his hands all over the place, blocking nothing.
And as others have said, any Thai fighter with 2 montsh of training would eat these guys monks for breakfast.
boxingchamp17 5 years ago
Muay thai fighters are pretty basic. They build up there muscles and train to be tough then they get there experiance from punching round hous and kneeing in the ring. You can learn it in a week but they spend there time lifting weights
liquidmeat 5 years ago
Wow, your observational skills are quite good, yeah he's clearly terrified there. Yeah, an actual shaolin monk would rape a thai fighter. Shaolin monks are warriors, not ring fighters or boxers.
Jim1905 5 years ago
Craziest thing I've heard a Thai fighter do is kick a steel pipe and break it, that's pretty cool. Craziest thing I've heard a monk do is hit a russian war horse and kill it (it was a palm strike too!) On a post-mortem they discovered that the horse had no external injuries but internally all of it's organs were shattered. Now that's crazy.
Jim1905 5 years ago