@gnash555 The real story - They wouldn't allow the girl becuase she was a year 10. and hannah was a year 11. Obviously a year 10 shouldn't go a year 11 formal, and the funny thing is, when the media was all like this, one of the girls had a boyfriend.
you have to be joking, she is not and nowhere near an adult, who the hell does she think she is, some twenty five year old woman. she is a child . in these days of padded bras etc for children for gods sake go to your bloody classes and dont attempt to have your like 15 like minutes like of fame. grow up first
@sgtgewart1 So by your reasoning, the school is allowed to break anti-discrimination laws just because she is, by your definition, a child? What has age got to do with it. You ask who does she think she is, well I'll tell you, she is a human being, living in a country where she is entitled to live her life free of having her rights denied her. She is actually 16, the age in which people can legally engage in sexual activities - therefore she is old enough to stand up for her rights.
Nothing complex about it, Neil. You either teach inclusive and accepting values or you don't. Ivanhoe Girls' Grammar need to reevaluate and change their policies to match community standards, and NOT teach their students that it's okay to descriminate based on sexual orientation, which is actually against the law. And this PRIVATE school receives government funding? Sheesh.
@nupthatisit All schools are Government funded in some way. If you choose to send your child to a private school, then you need to be fully aware of its policies. If this school sets rules on social events, then it should be taken into account. There are two points in this whole issue. There is a matter of law, which the school does not seem to have broken. This matter was to go before the Equal opportunity commission, but the complaint was withdrawn. Why???
@mrsgritoli1 If the school policies are against discrimination laws, then the school is acting in a morally and ethically reprehensible manner. The student stated it was withdrawn from the EOC because she was concerned it would interfere with her VCE studies. Certainly if I was the parents of these students, I would withdraw the girls and enrol them elsewhere. BTW I am a secondary school teacher.
@b1shitekki What's your issue with that? It is a perfectly legitimate form of literacy for the genre of communication that we are using, ie a form of abbreviation which has a recognisable language convention by the audience it is intended, and given that Youtube has supplied a limited number of characters, abbreviations are often used by participants in such an informal forum.
@nupthatisit it makes you sound like a tool. the whole formal caps locking of the acronym commonly used by prepubescent teens to open the statement telling people you're a teacher is not the most logical of word choice.
@b1shitekki Oh, I didn't realise the issue you had was not so much the fact I abbreviated "by the way" to "BTW" but the fact I used capital letters to do so. I'd hate to break it to you but the majority of the population are not likely to be as inclined as you are to analyse such language conventions (may I remind you, in an informal online forum) as those commonly used by prepubescent teens.
@nupthatisit not trying to start a troll off. i'm just making you aware, that using teenage-related acronyms formally makes you seem like an old person trying to get in touch with the younger generation. and i'm not saying you are doing that. i am telling you how it seems. it seems kind of odd that you use perfect grammar, spelling and punctuation, and then throw in a random "BTW" at the end. again, just saying, not judging, and not attempting to further the argument.
@b1shitekki Oh, build a bridge! Only you care about that. If you have a comment to make, make it about the video. You're making yourself look extremely petty and immature. "BTW" has been used for many decades, don't make yourself look ignorant by implying it's a "younger generation" acronym.
@nupthatisit i said it was commonly used by the younger generation. used by is an entirely different concept than what you're implying. i can see that you're one of those people who twists words to win arguments. anyone who has a brain can see what you're attempting to do. so here's an idea. calm the tits down. this argument would be over if you stopped replying for the sake of winning. i'm guilty of that too, but don't expect to win any arguments on youtube using tactics like that.
@b1shitekki it's used by older generations as well. You've brought in a completely irrelevant point to the subject of the video, if you want to "argue" how about you argue on those grounds? Or are you incapable of doing so?
@mrsgritoli1 You state incorrectly that the school broke no law. There is a federal act called Anti Discrimination Act (1991) which outlaws discrimination based on sex, sexual orientation, race and ethnicity, and disability. Section 39 deals directly with education, stating "An education authority must not discriminate...b) by denying or limiting access to any benefit arising from enrolment that is supplied by the authority, or c) by excluding the student or d) by treating the student unfairly
@mrsgritoli1 "Media stunts" as you put it are an affective measure in bringing up issues that need to be brought up. In that sense, it has been successful. There is no doubt the school has acted in an unfair manner, and yes, it needs to be discussed by society as a whole, as it it a way of gauging social values on such issues. There are a number of issues that fall in that same category.
@mrsgritoli1 Do you think I take enjoyment in seeing schools treat their students like this??? I'm a teacher, there is absolutely no joy in this, not for the students, who have had to change schools.
@mrsgritoli1 Listen Fuckwit, i went to a all boys school. It was not much fun seeing a gay mate of mine bashed within a second of his life. He put up with it until one day he decided to fight back with the help of his family and mates. He did it tough and didnt have the chance to go running off to the media, just because he couldnt bring his boyfreind to a party. Typical bloody militant lesbians, always crying foul.....BOO FUCKING HOOO
@mrsgritoli1 And I went to an all girls' school and I too saw some horrific stuff, but I also went to school at a time that was no where near as accepting as these issues are now. You seem to disregard the fact that of the 700 students attending this school, 500 signed the petition SUPPORTING the girls. Gender in this is immaterial, and I see it as topical given the recent debates on same sex marriages (of which the majority of Australians support). Schools values must reflect society values
This story is not a story! This is just a lazy news day!
For 1 minute I dont beleave that a formal, debutante or end of year school function has not had a "coming out"
where students had showed their peers of their sexuality.
Sorry 21st Century news media, this is just premature smut.
Lasaration 1 year ago
Breaking News: Attention whore gets attention.
Grow up kid.
gnash555 1 year ago
@gnash555 it gives news hacks like
David Koch and Karl Stefanovic wasting 2 minute reads on
their auto-cues. There is no fact in this story at all.
Lasaration 1 year ago
@gnash555 Breaking News: Asshole is being an ass.
Maybe if you knew what actually happened you wouldn't be so single minded.
333hannah 1 year ago
@333hannah So this story is reported wrongly is it?
gnash555 1 year ago
@gnash555 The real story - They wouldn't allow the girl becuase she was a year 10. and hannah was a year 11. Obviously a year 10 shouldn't go a year 11 formal, and the funny thing is, when the media was all like this, one of the girls had a boyfriend.
thesaidso 11 months ago
@thesaidso That wasn't the reason, did you not listen? A girl took a boy from another school in year 10 to it.
BillieVSAvril 7 months ago
@BillieVSAvril What? I go the the freaking school. I should know.
thesaidso 7 months ago
Since when have two girls not been allowed to arrive at a party together??
Lieu3C4 1 year ago 2
who cares, typical with schools these days. bully this discrimination that, start teaching and stop cotton wooling
fj1764 1 year ago
you have to be joking, she is not and nowhere near an adult, who the hell does she think she is, some twenty five year old woman. she is a child . in these days of padded bras etc for children for gods sake go to your bloody classes and dont attempt to have your like 15 like minutes like of fame. grow up first
sgtgewart1 1 year ago
@sgtgewart1 So by your reasoning, the school is allowed to break anti-discrimination laws just because she is, by your definition, a child? What has age got to do with it. You ask who does she think she is, well I'll tell you, she is a human being, living in a country where she is entitled to live her life free of having her rights denied her. She is actually 16, the age in which people can legally engage in sexual activities - therefore she is old enough to stand up for her rights.
nupthatisit 1 year ago 2
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@sgtgewart1 What in the fuck are you babbling about?
17thknight 1 year ago
Nothing complex about it, Neil. You either teach inclusive and accepting values or you don't. Ivanhoe Girls' Grammar need to reevaluate and change their policies to match community standards, and NOT teach their students that it's okay to descriminate based on sexual orientation, which is actually against the law. And this PRIVATE school receives government funding? Sheesh.
nupthatisit 1 year ago
@nupthatisit All schools are Government funded in some way. If you choose to send your child to a private school, then you need to be fully aware of its policies. If this school sets rules on social events, then it should be taken into account. There are two points in this whole issue. There is a matter of law, which the school does not seem to have broken. This matter was to go before the Equal opportunity commission, but the complaint was withdrawn. Why???
mrsgritoli1 1 year ago
@mrsgritoli1 If the school policies are against discrimination laws, then the school is acting in a morally and ethically reprehensible manner. The student stated it was withdrawn from the EOC because she was concerned it would interfere with her VCE studies. Certainly if I was the parents of these students, I would withdraw the girls and enrol them elsewhere. BTW I am a secondary school teacher.
nupthatisit 1 year ago
@nupthatisit maybe you shouldn't use the term "BTW" then.
b1shitekki 1 year ago
@b1shitekki What's your issue with that? It is a perfectly legitimate form of literacy for the genre of communication that we are using, ie a form of abbreviation which has a recognisable language convention by the audience it is intended, and given that Youtube has supplied a limited number of characters, abbreviations are often used by participants in such an informal forum.
nupthatisit 1 year ago
@nupthatisit it makes you sound like a tool. the whole formal caps locking of the acronym commonly used by prepubescent teens to open the statement telling people you're a teacher is not the most logical of word choice.
b1shitekki 1 year ago
@b1shitekki Oh, I didn't realise the issue you had was not so much the fact I abbreviated "by the way" to "BTW" but the fact I used capital letters to do so. I'd hate to break it to you but the majority of the population are not likely to be as inclined as you are to analyse such language conventions (may I remind you, in an informal online forum) as those commonly used by prepubescent teens.
nupthatisit 1 year ago
@nupthatisit not trying to start a troll off. i'm just making you aware, that using teenage-related acronyms formally makes you seem like an old person trying to get in touch with the younger generation. and i'm not saying you are doing that. i am telling you how it seems. it seems kind of odd that you use perfect grammar, spelling and punctuation, and then throw in a random "BTW" at the end. again, just saying, not judging, and not attempting to further the argument.
b1shitekki 1 year ago
@b1shitekki Oh, build a bridge! Only you care about that. If you have a comment to make, make it about the video. You're making yourself look extremely petty and immature. "BTW" has been used for many decades, don't make yourself look ignorant by implying it's a "younger generation" acronym.
nupthatisit 1 year ago
@nupthatisit i said it was commonly used by the younger generation. used by is an entirely different concept than what you're implying. i can see that you're one of those people who twists words to win arguments. anyone who has a brain can see what you're attempting to do. so here's an idea. calm the tits down. this argument would be over if you stopped replying for the sake of winning. i'm guilty of that too, but don't expect to win any arguments on youtube using tactics like that.
b1shitekki 1 year ago
@b1shitekki it's used by older generations as well. You've brought in a completely irrelevant point to the subject of the video, if you want to "argue" how about you argue on those grounds? Or are you incapable of doing so?
nupthatisit 1 year ago
@mrsgritoli1 You state incorrectly that the school broke no law. There is a federal act called Anti Discrimination Act (1991) which outlaws discrimination based on sex, sexual orientation, race and ethnicity, and disability. Section 39 deals directly with education, stating "An education authority must not discriminate...b) by denying or limiting access to any benefit arising from enrolment that is supplied by the authority, or c) by excluding the student or d) by treating the student unfairly
nupthatisit 1 year ago
@nupthatisit If the law has been broken, why won't the Comissioner take it further?
If this interferes with studies, then why all this media attention??
Also pre drinks before the party, how old are these kids?...Was alcohol consumed?
This is a media stunt, pure and simple.
mrsgritoli1 1 year ago
@mrsgritoli1 "Media stunts" as you put it are an affective measure in bringing up issues that need to be brought up. In that sense, it has been successful. There is no doubt the school has acted in an unfair manner, and yes, it needs to be discussed by society as a whole, as it it a way of gauging social values on such issues. There are a number of issues that fall in that same category.
nupthatisit 1 year ago
@nupthatisit yeh whatever.........enjoy yourself wont you
mrsgritoli1 1 year ago
@mrsgritoli1 Do you think I take enjoyment in seeing schools treat their students like this??? I'm a teacher, there is absolutely no joy in this, not for the students, who have had to change schools.
nupthatisit 1 year ago
@mrsgritoli1 Listen Fuckwit, i went to a all boys school. It was not much fun seeing a gay mate of mine bashed within a second of his life. He put up with it until one day he decided to fight back with the help of his family and mates. He did it tough and didnt have the chance to go running off to the media, just because he couldnt bring his boyfreind to a party. Typical bloody militant lesbians, always crying foul.....BOO FUCKING HOOO
mrsgritoli1 1 year ago
@mrsgritoli1 And I went to an all girls' school and I too saw some horrific stuff, but I also went to school at a time that was no where near as accepting as these issues are now. You seem to disregard the fact that of the 700 students attending this school, 500 signed the petition SUPPORTING the girls. Gender in this is immaterial, and I see it as topical given the recent debates on same sex marriages (of which the majority of Australians support). Schools values must reflect society values
nupthatisit 1 year ago
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@nupthatisit OK you can have the last word. Most of you do
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