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Hey Ed, the 2nd Ammendment had nothing to do with hunting. Everyone hunted in the days of our founding fathers. That is how they fed themselves, no second ammendment required. The 2nd ammendment was about self defense from criminals and as a means to keep a potential out of control government in check.
Yes Ed, these guns are made to kill people. To kill people that are threatening you with great bodily harm or death. Have you ever heard of a home invasion that involved 3-4 criminals bent on doing a family harm? Lets assume you are a great shot and totally cool under pressure. What about your wife if she was alone? What about anyone else that might just need all the rounds they can have. Why do you care how many rounds a law abiding citizen has?
Have you ever heard of home invasions Ed? If 1, 2, or 3 armed thugs burst into your home to do you and your family harm, how many rounds would you like to limit yourself to by law? I am a law abiding citizen who owns several pistols for self defense, including a Glock 17 with a capacity of 17+1. I also keep two extra 17 round mags on hand. I also have a carry permit and most of the time I am armed with a semi-auto pistol. What is it about this that concerns you?
The real target was Judge John role who ruled against gun confiscation, against FEMA taking over the government in the case of emergency, against peoples bank accounts being seized by law enforcement officers etc Note how nothing hardly was mention'd about this great man.
@ahamatmabrahman I've heard that argument twice now and it seems to make more sense now. Its like Sir Han Sir Han except it more confusing in regards to the motives. Its obvious when a MK Ultra patsi kills one person, but when they kill everyone around the 'target' it becomes a diversion from what the PTB's real intentions are.
@ddarko2012 Many people who study the occult beleive that the little girl who was murdered (born 9/11)was the victim of a ritualistic murder, see Michael Tsarions vid part54 or 56 of 70 The age of manipulation The congress woman had a youtube subscription to the killer, this was removed anyway best wishes to you and yours from the UK
For being only two percent of the population these juuu juuuuuu juuuuuuu's (i said it) sure like to be on t.v all the time telling the rest of the population what to think. T.V controled by who again.
@johnnybravo234 at least American people have the right to bear arms against the government. in my country you can buy a gun but you can't buy bullets. When it kicks off here properly we will nothing but sticks and stones to deffend our lives
Im a liberal and Shultz is just full of hyperbole , the gunman wasn't diagnosed with any mental illness , so there was no reason to deny selling a gun to him and we still don't know the extent of any mental illness or if he was brain washed or just snapped , WE DONT KNOW , until an investigation .
30 round clip and be replaced w/ TWO guns Eddie , 2 with 10 round EA. or he could have altered an AK47 to full auto .. and the agenda is to take this tragedy to push ban on guns , what the Gov wants
@DanZellas24 "The guy didn't follow the law. Guns cant follow laws. He pulled the trigger" You just PROVED MY POINT!! He didnt follow the law, so WHY give him OR ANYONE access to a gun in the first place.
"If someone is mistaken for an intruder in their own home, then they deserve to get shot" I'm sorry but this is just a stupid comment and as such i wont comment on it!
If you add all the ages of the victims that died in the shooting x 2 you get 666. Christina Green 9, Phyllis Schneck 79, John Roll 63, Dorthy Morris 76, Dorwan Stoddard 76, and Gabe Zimmerman 30. Six victims die and all their ages totaled x 2 is 666.
@DanZellas24 I agree that knives and hammers (and many others) can be used as weapons! But why add to the problem by alowing people to a have gun
The school board shooting ended with the shooter himslef being shot, i admit this is no big loss, but still this isnt a victory for pro-gun groups. How many people are killed in thier own home with a gun, being mistake for an intruder? It goes to show people cannot be trused with guns dispite their best intentions
I used to be violently against the Right to Bare Arms, but now that the corporations, billionares, churches and their elected hench men are working together to snuff out freedom I finally get it.
They want to have a high capacity magazine ban. Check out this youtube video of a guy who has practiced changing mags. "The World Fastest Gun Reload". The whole idea of a ban is really quite idiotic.
Special Ed thinks some guns are okay, but others (handguns) are not? Give me a break.
Special Ed goes on to question if mentally unstable people should be allowed to own firearms. Why limit it to firearms? What about knives,matches, cars, hammers, booze?
Wait a minute... DanZellas says a "responsible gun owner"? after he just admitted he would have shot the guy with the gun... even though that wasn't the right guy? That's responsible???
@salemmoguy Political law enforcement officers (not peace officers) & federal authorities kill innocent bystanders everyday yet if a civilian who has good intentions accidentally shoots an innocent person its different? Search this 'Baltimore officer was killed by fellow officers.'
@salemmoguy I understand where you're coming from but people tend to give the state and cops too much credit.Like annboyll said,where were they when 13 people were injured and 6 killed? Besides no one with good intentions wants to shoot the wrong person. He (Joe) gauged the situation and made the right decision. So in my opinion he was a responsible gun owner. Life is not simple, nor is it always risk free. You live it as free as possible and look to your fellow citizen for help, not the state.
In Arizona it is the law that everyone can pack. I have A question regarding Loughner. Why was the shooter able to shoot 18 rounds? Where were the cops? Why did an old lady have to the gun away,where were the cops. If they were all packing that day the kid may not of gotten shot. Where were the cops. I also think the congress woman was a side show I think the judge was the target. He was preparing a ruling against Obama about currency and 401ks that kind of stuff, 72 hours before the shooting
I watched cnn today, government were talking about outlawing crosshair symbols! WHY? WTF? I'm not American but come on, how long will it take you stupid bloody people to realise you NEED to make ALL guns illegal. its really not that hard.
@mr647 pistols are for the millitary and murderers. If your going hunting then you use a rifle NOT a pistol. Pistols are for killing PEOPLE. Like i said before, its really not that hard. ban guns
@Alchemyzigzag That is some of the most simplistic logic I have heard. By your logic, you may as well take away eating utensils to keep people from getting fat.
@Alchemyzigzag That is some of the most simplistic logic I have heard. By your logic, you may as well take away eating utensils to keep people from getting fat.
The problem with Joe is that he potentially could have shot the WRONG person. He said he grabbed the wrist of the person holding the gun, and then he was told that was not the shooter.
Alternate scenario: he walks out of Walgreens and shoots the person holding the gun--wrong person.
Very dicey for Mr. Zamudio. And I'm not sure what he did. It sounded like others had control of Loughner.
@tyronebiggums3 I agree 100%. Hero Joe also probably "assumes" that most firearms are unloaded. When it comes to firearms you can't assume shit! I hope I'm never defending myself and this idiot comes sprinting up and blows me away.
I believe the real target of this fiasco was the federal judge because he opposed many of obama's views, therefore he needed to be taken out. The new executive orders that obama has passed makes this rather clear. The focus on Gifford is to hide this fact, and works well to hype up their gun control agenda...
The shooter is not schizophrenic...I worked in acute psych for years. MK ultra victim, probably approached after being turned down by the military. Anyway. great reporting Darko.
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pimakilledsuki 6 months ago
Hey Ed, the 2nd Ammendment had nothing to do with hunting. Everyone hunted in the days of our founding fathers. That is how they fed themselves, no second ammendment required. The 2nd ammendment was about self defense from criminals and as a means to keep a potential out of control government in check.
SailTCB 6 months ago
Yes Ed, these guns are made to kill people. To kill people that are threatening you with great bodily harm or death. Have you ever heard of a home invasion that involved 3-4 criminals bent on doing a family harm? Lets assume you are a great shot and totally cool under pressure. What about your wife if she was alone? What about anyone else that might just need all the rounds they can have. Why do you care how many rounds a law abiding citizen has?
SailTCB 6 months ago
JOE, YOUR A HERO!
ED SCHULTZ...THANKS!
disciple666slayer 8 months ago
Have you ever heard of home invasions Ed? If 1, 2, or 3 armed thugs burst into your home to do you and your family harm, how many rounds would you like to limit yourself to by law? I am a law abiding citizen who owns several pistols for self defense, including a Glock 17 with a capacity of 17+1. I also keep two extra 17 round mags on hand. I also have a carry permit and most of the time I am armed with a semi-auto pistol. What is it about this that concerns you?
SailTCB 9 months ago
ok this hero is praised for his help.he carries a gun..............
themikster2010 1 year ago
The real target was Judge John role who ruled against gun confiscation, against FEMA taking over the government in the case of emergency, against peoples bank accounts being seized by law enforcement officers etc Note how nothing hardly was mention'd about this great man.
ahamatmabrahman 1 year ago
@ahamatmabrahman I've heard that argument twice now and it seems to make more sense now. Its like Sir Han Sir Han except it more confusing in regards to the motives. Its obvious when a MK Ultra patsi kills one person, but when they kill everyone around the 'target' it becomes a diversion from what the PTB's real intentions are.
ddarko2012 1 year ago
@ddarko2012 Many people who study the occult beleive that the little girl who was murdered (born 9/11)was the victim of a ritualistic murder, see Michael Tsarions vid part54 or 56 of 70 The age of manipulation The congress woman had a youtube subscription to the killer, this was removed anyway best wishes to you and yours from the UK
ahamatmabrahman 1 year ago
For being only two percent of the population these juuu juuuuuu juuuuuuu's (i said it) sure like to be on t.v all the time telling the rest of the population what to think. T.V controled by who again.
SuperPreciousMetal 1 year ago
Just bought 4 33 round mags for my glock to spite arrogant fucks like this.
johnnybravo234 1 year ago 3
@johnnybravo234 at least American people have the right to bear arms against the government. in my country you can buy a gun but you can't buy bullets. When it kicks off here properly we will nothing but sticks and stones to deffend our lives
ahamatmabrahman 1 year ago
Im a liberal and Shultz is just full of hyperbole , the gunman wasn't diagnosed with any mental illness , so there was no reason to deny selling a gun to him and we still don't know the extent of any mental illness or if he was brain washed or just snapped , WE DONT KNOW , until an investigation .
30 round clip and be replaced w/ TWO guns Eddie , 2 with 10 round EA. or he could have altered an AK47 to full auto .. and the agenda is to take this tragedy to push ban on guns , what the Gov wants
franz909 1 year ago
@DanZellas24
@DanZellas24
??? "U have no point. The guy killed people, the gun doesnt matter. He killed them.....HE! He should have not been able to buy a gun."
You just dissagreed and the agreed with me all in one sentance?
I'm sorry but I no long wish to converse with you because you say stupid things. I suggest, instead of watchin the news you watch cartoons
Alchemyzigzag 1 year ago
@DanZellas24 "The guy didn't follow the law. Guns cant follow laws. He pulled the trigger" You just PROVED MY POINT!! He didnt follow the law, so WHY give him OR ANYONE access to a gun in the first place.
"If someone is mistaken for an intruder in their own home, then they deserve to get shot" I'm sorry but this is just a stupid comment and as such i wont comment on it!
Alchemyzigzag 1 year ago
If you add all the ages of the victims that died in the shooting x 2 you get 666. Christina Green 9, Phyllis Schneck 79, John Roll 63, Dorthy Morris 76, Dorwan Stoddard 76, and Gabe Zimmerman 30. Six victims die and all their ages totaled x 2 is 666.
YAHWEH1Truth 1 year ago
Well I have grown up in the UK ...and I am glad that guns are not legal and common here. The best protection from Guns is not to have guns.
I wonder if it will turn out that half of the people killed were accidentally killed by the people shooting back at this guy.
peterjol 1 year ago
Well I have grown up in the UK ...and I am glad that guns are not legal and common here. The best protection from Guns is not to have guns.
peterjol 1 year ago
@DanZellas24 I agree that knives and hammers (and many others) can be used as weapons! But why add to the problem by alowing people to a have gun
The school board shooting ended with the shooter himslef being shot, i admit this is no big loss, but still this isnt a victory for pro-gun groups. How many people are killed in thier own home with a gun, being mistake for an intruder? It goes to show people cannot be trused with guns dispite their best intentions
Alchemyzigzag 1 year ago
Fester is also Christopher Lloyd. GREAT SCOTT!
ajd1211 1 year ago
@DanZellas24 Beacuse Knives and Hammers are tools, and as such are needed in everyday life. Pistols are weapons and are NOT needed in everyday life!!
Alchemyzigzag 1 year ago
And you are a propagandist fuckhead!
junglemike72 1 year ago
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it sounded to me as if someone had already got him and took his gun away. Not sure why they chose him to be the hero. hmmmmmmmm
01Rae2U 1 year ago
it sounded to me as if someone had already got him and took his gun away. Not sure why they chose im to be the hero. hmmmmmmmm
01Rae2U 1 year ago
I used to be violently against the Right to Bare Arms, but now that the corporations, billionares, churches and their elected hench men are working together to snuff out freedom I finally get it.
puggypugpugpug 1 year ago
They want to have a high capacity magazine ban. Check out this youtube video of a guy who has practiced changing mags. "The World Fastest Gun Reload". The whole idea of a ban is really quite idiotic.
brad238899 1 year ago
Special Ed thinks some guns are okay, but others (handguns) are not? Give me a break.
Special Ed goes on to question if mentally unstable people should be allowed to own firearms. Why limit it to firearms? What about knives,matches, cars, hammers, booze?
YYZpresto 1 year ago
Wait a minute... DanZellas says a "responsible gun owner"? after he just admitted he would have shot the guy with the gun... even though that wasn't the right guy? That's responsible???
salemmoguy 1 year ago
@salemmoguy Political law enforcement officers (not peace officers) & federal authorities kill innocent bystanders everyday yet if a civilian who has good intentions accidentally shoots an innocent person its different? Search this 'Baltimore officer was killed by fellow officers.'
ddarko2012 1 year ago
@salemmoguy I understand where you're coming from but people tend to give the state and cops too much credit.Like annboyll said,where were they when 13 people were injured and 6 killed? Besides no one with good intentions wants to shoot the wrong person. He (Joe) gauged the situation and made the right decision. So in my opinion he was a responsible gun owner. Life is not simple, nor is it always risk free. You live it as free as possible and look to your fellow citizen for help, not the state.
ddarko2012 1 year ago
In Arizona it is the law that everyone can pack. I have A question regarding Loughner. Why was the shooter able to shoot 18 rounds? Where were the cops? Why did an old lady have to the gun away,where were the cops. If they were all packing that day the kid may not of gotten shot. Where were the cops. I also think the congress woman was a side show I think the judge was the target. He was preparing a ruling against Obama about currency and 401ks that kind of stuff, 72 hours before the shooting
annboylyn 1 year ago
I watched cnn today, government were talking about outlawing crosshair symbols! WHY? WTF? I'm not American but come on, how long will it take you stupid bloody people to realise you NEED to make ALL guns illegal. its really not that hard.
Alchemyzigzag 1 year ago
@Alchemyzigzag FUK U ITS THE PPLS RIGHT.. its says in there constitutionl so shut the hell up.. i live in uk n i no how important it is 2 have a gun
mr647 1 year ago
@mr647 pistols are for the millitary and murderers. If your going hunting then you use a rifle NOT a pistol. Pistols are for killing PEOPLE. Like i said before, its really not that hard. ban guns
Alchemyzigzag 1 year ago
@Alchemyzigzag That is some of the most simplistic logic I have heard. By your logic, you may as well take away eating utensils to keep people from getting fat.
Thane333 1 year ago
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@Alchemyzigzag That is some of the most simplistic logic I have heard. By your logic, you may as well take away eating utensils to keep people from getting fat.
Thane333 1 year ago
Question:
Have they checked the ballistics on all shots fired to confirm what weapon killed or wounded each person?
tyronebiggums3 1 year ago
I posted this on Zamudio, elsewhere: Hero???
The problem with Joe is that he potentially could have shot the WRONG person. He said he grabbed the wrist of the person holding the gun, and then he was told that was not the shooter.
Alternate scenario: he walks out of Walgreens and shoots the person holding the gun--wrong person.
Very dicey for Mr. Zamudio. And I'm not sure what he did. It sounded like others had control of Loughner.
tyronebiggums3 1 year ago
@tyronebiggums3 I agree 100%. Hero Joe also probably "assumes" that most firearms are unloaded. When it comes to firearms you can't assume shit! I hope I'm never defending myself and this idiot comes sprinting up and blows me away.
@ddarko2012 Thanks for posting.
hatch381 1 year ago
I believe the real target of this fiasco was the federal judge because he opposed many of obama's views, therefore he needed to be taken out. The new executive orders that obama has passed makes this rather clear. The focus on Gifford is to hide this fact, and works well to hype up their gun control agenda...
elfsoul23 1 year ago 2
The shooter is not schizophrenic...I worked in acute psych for years. MK ultra victim, probably approached after being turned down by the military. Anyway. great reporting Darko.
monimuette 1 year ago
What does rhe health science center say?
alifia23 1 year ago