Forces of Gauls: 80 000 in Alesia+over 200 000 auxiliary warriors outside,
Forces of Romans: ca 30 000, including auxiliary Germanics.
And the Gauls completely LOST!! They surrendered shamefully! Compare this to the conquest of Dacia 99-106 AC: five years of preparation, building of many forts around whole Dacia, many of bloody battles... Now, Asterix and Obelix both conquer Rome again and again... :) Sorry my english.
Forces of Gauls: 80 000 in Alesia+over 200 000 auxiliary warriors outside,
Forces of Romans: ca 30 000, including auxiliary Germanics.
And the Gauls completely LOST!! They surrendered shamefully! Compare this to the conquest of Dacia 99-106 AC: five years of preparation, building of many forts around whole Dacia, many of bloody battles... Now, Asterix and Obelix both conquer Rome again and again... :) Sorry my english.
Romans were 70 000 professionals soldiers well equiped and 10 000 of the best mercenary cavalry in the world, gauls where 80 000 starving men and 250 000 men most of whom not real warriors. Romans had superior generals to lead them. Top of them: Caesar of course.
According to Jean Markale or Gerard Walter (I'm not sure) - 30 000,
English Wiki - 80 000,
Polish Wiki - 50 000.
Not important. Anyway, the Gauls had a big dominance. I don't want to offend anyone - Vercingetorix is the great French hero (although he was Celt not French).
PS. I maintain the conquest of Dacia is more interesting and forgotten. Baselessly...
@etistone You mean the same 'professionals' who lost at Gergovia? Gaius Julius Caesar was not invincible. The only mercenaries Caesar would've had were the Remi and Lingones, both Gaulish tribes who did not unite under Vercingetorix.
Caesar won at Alesia because the Gallic reinforcements failed to use their numbers to their advantage, and what Caesar accomplished was tactical brilliancy. Still, he made the big mistake of being power-hungry, which ended up costing him his life as emperor.
The battle of gergovia was lost by a mistransmission of a retreat order from Caesar. The legions kept pushing forward and sustained heavy losses before withdrawing. Then Ceasar covered them with some reserve troops and moved on. He was not invincible indeed but as a great generals, he had a B plan that made Gergovia a bitter rather than a catastrophic defeat allowing him to continue the war. And he had Gauls mercenaries as well, you're right.
@celticbattleaxe By contrast, at Alesia, the last day of battle the Gauls thrown 50000 of their best warriors in the battle to try to break trew a weak point. After a fierce fight they had to retreat, and nobody was here to cover them. They were slaugtered.
@celticbattleaxe Well, I'm not sure, I didn't see this movie. But it's not nown for it's quality nor it's historical accuracy, quite the opposite actualy. As for the battle of Alesia, it lasted several days with several attempts and differents tactics from the gaul relief force (gauls from all the country).
@etistone Agreed - historians are just now beginning to realize that the Roman documents about the Celts have been biased, and much of the info is probably false. Caesars 'Gallic Wars', for example, have false statements that he probably used to convince the Senate to continue hos conquest in Gaul, and then extend into Albion. Alesia was won only by tactical superiority, if you ask me. The Gauls sent two relief forces, both of great size, but they did not know how to use their numbers
@etistone ...to their advantage. They should have encircles Caesar's ramparts to keep them in one place, and thereby cutting off him to supplies and contact to other legions near the Alps. The Gauls lost because they attacked Caesar using too many troops in one place, plus, they had no siege equipment (catapults) to destroy the ramparts.
Vercingetorix is not French national hero he is just another celtic warlord as there were thousands of them in the ancient world. to speak of a national hero is a gross anachronism as nothing French existed at that time, it was to take 1500 years before people were talking of France. Im German, it took us even longer ;)
@dertell Well he was the hero of the people ancestor to the French people...which kind of makes him their hero. I get it. It's not anachronism, it's continuity. But he's not a French hero, he's a Gallic hero, there you go.
THE MOST HORRIFYING BATTLE IN ANCIENT HISTORY -LEARN THE SPECIFICS. WIVES AND CHILDREN WERE LEFT TO STARVE AND BE SLAUGHTERED BY ROMAN TROOPS -THIS WAS CEASER'S FINAL MOMENT IN THE SUN. HE BURNS IN HELL BECAUSE OF THIS BATTLE
@otto3663 That was the Gallic Mandubii's decision, to expel women and children from the citadel hoping the Romans would open a breach to let them go. At the same time, this would have been an oppurtunity for breaking their lines.
@otto3663 Dude... The Gauls actually got rid of their elderly, women and children to a. spare food b. hope to get a lucky break when the romans let them through. The Romans did not kill anyone; all those people died of starvation because their own husbands, sons and fathers let them die instead of surrendering.
@Skyduke That makes the Romans seem like "good guys". What about in Gaulish culture it was a legal obligation to take care of the sick, mentally handicapped or young children whereas in Roman society you could leave a baby to die in the open? Fact: The Gauls were desperate far beyond the Romans at Alesia, and their law was far more enlightened than Rome imo. People today view non-Rome as barbaric. Alaric (not Gaulish) ordered his men to be as unatrocious as possible when he sacked Rome
So true. Alaric was a Germanic chieftain, who may have had an even more barbaric reputation among the Romans. And indeed, in the Roman Empire, peace often lasten multiple centuries, so their civilisation had brought peace, but inside of it´s body the Roman state was sick with decadence, sadism, and sodomy. I have never heard of gladiator games and large orgies occuring withing Celtic and Germanic societies back then. Who´s the barbarian in here?:P
Pour trouver la statue de vercingétorix il te faudra allez en Auvergne. De plus une fois là bas tu ne peux la rater et de toute façon tous les auvergnat la connaissent. Cela dis Alésia n'a pas été officiellement découvert. Depuis peu des fouilles ont révélé que les cités gauloise (En Auvergne) étaient imence et faite de pierre et non de bois.
@forgottenrebel88 And Napoleon III started to define our country(France) as latin in order to have influence in south america,even it was false.It's again him who talked about latina america,and always in the same way.
@forgottenrebel88 Before Napoleon III,and under the different royal French gouvernement(king's ministers),French diplomacy defined our country as a germanic and keltic kingdom.
Sadly yes. I just want to say I liked Lambert in some stuff like Highlander (original) but this is just garbage. I mean okay I enjoyed seeing Max von Sydow and the battle at Alesia is SLIGHTELY better than the rest of the film and a little more accurate, but it's very brief and still lacks in alot of things. The worst was seeing this version of Caesar, and the scene of him marching on Alesia with camera shots and music resembling a really BAD music video. History and this movie deserved better.
Vercingetorix just made one small mistake, and I think that is pretty impressive for the commander of such a large army. He gave caesar a run for his money.
@gipcambero I do understand the symbolism of Vercingetorix as the French National Hero... however, it is akin to Arthurian sentiment in England. Much as Arthur was not English (rather defeater of the English) Vercingetorix was not French. In fact, the Romans all but washed his Gallic culture away before themselves being subdued by the Germanic Franks. I mean no insult, but it is one of those paradoxical hero systems. Too bad no one really had the equivalent of Germany's Arminius.
9/10 of what Gaul encompassed is present day France and vercingetorix is the gallic leader that unite all Celtics tribes of Gaul to fight the Romans. Then at the time of Arminius Germany didn't exist too. People always think about Alesia but Vercingetorix won at Gergovia. Then I think it is difficult to compare England and France since Angles, Saxons and jutes almost massacred the former Celtic population of England (except some part in the West middlands, Cornwall...)
@gipcambero You seem to have missed my point. I am not talking about land or genetics but culture. France is culturally a mix of Romans, Goths, and Francs which replace Gallic cutlure (nearly) perfectly. My Arthurian point was that he English reveer Arhur as their hero while his origin destroyed the english and they only made a comeback nearly 70 years later. But Arminius united what would one day unite into Germany anyway (culturally the same goup as today).
@LordTharrion AS I said... I mean no inslut. I am just pointing out that Arminius is really the only person with a cultural link to the people who revere him. I am not talking about area or genetics... I am not talking about countries, rather cultures. Arthur *would have been* Welsh, Vercingetorics was Gallic. Arminius was Germanic.
But that is beside the point. I never meant to bring up Arminius as a point of interest. Just to say Vercingetorics was not French.
If you consider that language only made a nation so you're right. But in this case, What is Germany ?? The area that encompasse all germanic speaking tribes ?? So at the Time of Arminius Germany was a country comprising the area from Scandinavia to russia ??
@gipcambero Again... you are completely misinterpreting what I am saying. Firstly that Arminius was never intended to be held above anyone. Secondly... I am not talking about language making a country. I am nt talki about a nation AT ALL. What I am saying is that Vercingetorix was a Gaul. Gallic CULTURE was replaced by Roman CULTURE almost perfectly. Then Germanic CULTURE filled in some parts of that Roman CULTURE.
@LordTharrion The CULTURE Vercingetorix fought to protect had long since been subdued and conquered by the CULTER he fought against. Likewise with Arthur who fought against the invading Anglo-Saxons of the Germanic CULTURE while his Roman CULTURE (Roman having subdued the Brythonic) was then replaced by that. My point is... yes Germania was a large area... but Germany shares the Germanic CULTURAL ties with Arminius. Once again... forget language, we are talking tongue, gods, and daily life.
Evereybody knows he was gallic. But German people have stopped to believe in their gods since Charlemagne and daily life in the time of Arminius is completely different from what it would be later in the Holy german empire or Habsburg empire. Both Vercingetorix and arminius became real Symbolic figure since the 19th century and the rise of Nationalism
@gipcambero Firstly... it was the Holy Roman Empire...
But German Culture has evolved since then. Just because they stopped believing in their old gods and proceded in the act of civilizing does not mean they are a different culture. They have been influenced by outside cultures but German culture did not cease to be german culture when they became christians and started living in concrete buildings.
@gipcambero Same with language... you recognize that "If you consider that language only made a nation so you're right." but the german language of today is much evolved from that of yore. The culture has evok]lved but it was never replaced. The ultimate point it that the France of today is the very thing Vercingetorix fought AGAINST. Again, this is not to demean Vercingetorix or to put Arminius on a pedistol, merely to say that Vercingetorix has a very miniscule role as a french hero.
If you consider that more than 50% of the French lived in the countryside until the 1930s as peasants in villages and cities that already existed before the Roman conquest (almost al the names of the palce are Celtics or pre-indoeuropean) so French daily life has little evolved since Vercingetorix.
@gipcambero Placenames mean nothing. Scotland has Pictish placenames (even though the picts have long since disappeared). America is full of Native American placenames where the Natives have been driven out from.
@LordTharrion You're right name of places mean nothing. I'm from southern brazil. Perhaps the name of most places are indigenous however, there's very little or virtually no influence culturally or genetically of amerindians in the southern brazilian society. i don't understand this Celtic revival some people are trying to do, and ignore that in the eyes of the civilised romans they were nothing but babarians uncapable of creating a true civilisation.
@Louieinoz I wouldn't go that far. The celts were quite advanced, giving the world chainmail even andbog iron collection. They had language, and religion, and cultural depth. They were settling into groing cities much like those of Rome when the Caesar began his conquest. Given time, they probably could have reach the level of civilization that Rome head reached.
If he lived in the middle ages in any countryside of France it would be the same thing while if Arminius had discover Holy Roman Empire in the middle ages he would have discoverd a Urban, catholic society.
@gipcambero In any case, Arminius was an afterthought... a half hearted remark. The point of my original coment was this: France today as a culture has decended from Roman, Gothic, Frankinsh, etc cultures mixed together. Vercingetorix was a Gaul who fought to defend his culture against the incursion of the parent culture of modern france. It matters not wether one lives in the country or city... the French culture is that of a Romance society, not Celtic.
@gipcambero Also, Urban has no bearing either... the process of civilization means building cities... Catholic was a matter of conversion while most other aspects of germanic society remained from art to language to germanic law. Urbanization was occuring throught the area at the time of the Roman invasion. It is therefore safe to say that wether or not Rome had influenced Germanic culture, it too would have developed large cities without losing a cultural identiy on that basis.
@olbodala Don't call me a dumbass, Dumbass... I never said shit about race. I don't give two shits about race. Culturally, the French have lost their Celtic identity. Culturally, the French are latin like the Itlalians and the Spanish (The Spanish, too, having Celtic, and pre-celtic, origins). And the Germanic impact on the genepool was relatively small as well, so genetically they are mostly Celtic, but in DNA alone, they are a Romance Culture with strong German ties.
@LordTharrion False,the majority of pure stock French(not arabs or blacks) are germanics/keltics(85%),and off course,Keltics like germanics tribes come from germany.
The mediterraneans peoples are in the extrem south and in corsica.
Spanish celtics?Very few,very few.They are iberics in majority,like there's some iberics and ligurians in the south of France.
@olbodala Ok, Here's it strait... Celts (not Keltics) are not a genetic group like Germans, it is a cultural link which spread out from modern day germany into previously existing populations. Being from lands north of the sea results in fairer skin (period) and does not mean they are German... it is a biological safety mechanism.
And you don't help your "factrs" by showing complete failure in your adjective use fro these peoples.
@olbodala The failure, it's you. do you see how ineffective that is? what you're saying is: "I'm right because *I* said so." face it, you're wrong, the fact that you don't know that the word is "Celts" not "Keltics" leads me to the conclusion that you didn't look any of this up
@SLICSfootbaby Failure yourself,moron.I'm French(white germano-celtic of breton-normand root by my father and southern french by my mother),so i know best than a mexishit like you.
@LordTharrion I'm not racist,i'm a white(French) nationalist.My father is breton/normand(of saint-briac) and my mother is of Cannes.But you seem a very disgracefull person.We can't talk with you.My familly name is "Louaisil".
Yes,i'm national socialist and monarchist too.Italians,spanish,portugueses are latins,French(pure stock) are celtics,germanics(85%,north,center,west east,to arvern) and italo-iberic in the south(15%).And about germans,they don't come from of scandinavia,but from germany.
@olbodala Your griping about my supposed race and religion deffinately make you a RACIST and ANTISEMITE! And honestly, you can't be a socialist AND a monarchist... it's like being a Democrat AND a Tyrant.
How am I a "disgraceful" person? is it for being disgusted by your bigotry and assumuptiveness? Why can't you talk to me? and I don't care what your last name is... mine is french as well... HALF on my father's side and a good chunk on my mother's too.
@olbodala Youcan't use modern boudaries to apply to ancient cultures. the germans of the period were living in what is now northern and central germany up into modern Norway and Sweden. Denmark is the ancestral home to the English. case in point: the English come from the Angles, Saxons, Frisians, and Jute, etc. from Frisia and Denmark. The tribes migrated and now have formed modern countries. Sachsen is not where the Saxons came from, only where they went.
@LordTharrion We(true french) aren't latins,because we are germano-keltics in majority(except in extrem south and corsica) where as true latins peoples are mediterraneans like portugueses,italians(except in north),spanish.
@olbodala Are you fucking retarded? I told you you were geneticly decended from the Celts of Gaul. It is culturally that you are latin. And the Celts spread from Britain and Spain across central europe to the middle east and were (again) a culture not a race. The Celitc culture originated in what is (only today) southern germany while the germans came from northern europe from Scandanavia to northern germany only later invading and conquering the Celtic populations
@LordTharrion At the beginning,inhabitants of scandinavia were suomi,who were and are blond hair and blue eyes.First Germans(brown/black/red hair and hazel or marron eyes like first celtics) who come from germany,arrived and colonized the scandinavia,and intermix with blond hair peoples(finno-ugrian peoples and baltics peoples).And after,scandinavian germanized peoples were mixed with celtics.That's all.
@olbodala Scandinvaians were Germanic, SAMI were the people (Suomi is finland) of northern Scanidinavia. Blue eyes originated around the black sea not witht he Sami abd were most prevalent with the germans and blond hair in lithuania among the newly arrive Indo-europeans (of whom the Sami are not a part) and also became most common among the germans.
To a Roman mind, "German" was a general word to describe people north of the Alps, as you can say Celt, slave or today Latin. There isn't 1 Germanic nation, 1 Celtic nation, 1 Latin Nation or 1 slavic nation. When the Franks invaded Gaul, there was already 20 milion of inhabitant there, so most of French have gallic ancestor, like most of the name of the place and city have celtic etymologies
@magnvsmarcvs the only frankish in france is the name, everything else is gaulish and i can ensure you that french have 100% gaulish roots.today france is full of algerians, morocans etc., but true french are gauls.BTW i am not french.
@gipcambero It was directed by a Frenchman. Shame he was more interested in booze and bulgarian prostitutes while filming it than in the story itself. Funny though, he was the producer too and lost lots of money.
for the love of god can they make a movie about pre birth of christ rome where the romans have the proper armour the only one to come close was HBO's Rome
but also the building of temples, thermal baths and theaters, in short the civilization..thing that instead beyond the river rhein in the earths of the German didn't happen.for the one who wanted to criticize what I said, think to what reason if not to the strong imprint that the Romans left today still in gaul (more than in other countries from them conquered) it speaks a mole-Latin language.and why in the post-imperial age so many generasl and Roman historians came from gaul
Hé.. We need to separate French (Franc) dynasty from the people of France. French dynasty was Franc (half Franc for being correct). But the people of France have no Franc origin. If you say that, you say the same than "the Wales are English because they was under English Realms since the 13 century". If a Wales heard that he will say "It"s fals" and yes... It's fals like saying that French, Walloons, Swiss Romanche are Germans. No, they are no German, they belong to Celts world...
French people have little to do with the Gauls. The French descend from the Franks mostly. Germanic tribe beyond the Rhine. Many French have Roman genes as well. But claiming that they descend from the Gauls is far fetched, and a false claim.
I am niether French nor Gallic, however I am a Celt. The Romans did endeed conquer Gaul, however the Frankish tribes arrived only after the fall of the Romans, to a land largely inhabited by Gauls. If anything is farfetched it is your statements. Oh, yeah, Obelix is alive and living well in Bretagne.
Nonsense; 70% of French people have DNA common to the Celtic tribes of the area. Around 20% have Teutonic DNA. Just because one group was conquered by another, that does not mean the native population was exterminated. If that was so, we would still be living in the Middle Ages.
Google "iGENEA" and click on the first link. They specialize in genetic studies. On the left hand side, one should see a section labelled "Customer's favorites". Under this, there should be a link saying "statistics"; click it. At the upper right corner it should say: "Statistics: Indigenous Peoples"; click it. Then, just click France and you got your data. You can also look at haplogroups if you would like. It should say: R1B=70%. R1b is typical Celtic DNA which is found in Ires and Scots.
Totally fals. Almost 1% of the population of Wallonia have German origin (source : LeSoir Histoire de Belgique Wallonne). 1% it's not the majority. As I said the Royal Family of France was German, but not the people. And even the royal family was not totally German... There was old Gauls-Roman family also.
Read Caesar's "Commentaries on the Gallic War". They are the finest series of military dispatches ever written. You will gain a much greater understanding of the conflict than by watching a silly film.
And when I see people denied the Celtic origin of French.. It's just ridiculous... French = Gauls, the most powerfull Celtic people who ever existed. Except Walloons.
celts were not a people greeks and later romans used the world to define people to the north and west. so romans were celts to the eyes of greeks and romans adopted plenty of celtic objects such as the rectangular shield they both ate wheat maize so it's unuseful to distinguish between graeco romans and Celts. The romans were a mix of celts and greeks
@ersonoro ..... Pendant la 2 eme guerre mondiale , même nous plié par les allemands , vous avez essayé de nous attaquer par les alpes , toute votre belle armée italienne fut repoussé par un régiment de chasseur alpin français ....
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comme on a coutume de dire chez nous , l armée italienne à 1 marche avant , pour 5 marche arriere ....
Actually, it took the Romans nine years to conquer the Celts, how long did it take for egypt, Greece, palestine and just about the rest of the world? One day, Never forget that.
Roman ways in infiltrating their enemies for traitors and their enemies' enemies won the day. The average Roman man was a soon to be Christianized sissy faggot. The cock guzzling Romans to a man were no match for any Celt man. Read the Roman accounts of the Celts some time. They and the Greeks alike were more fearful of them than any other enemy they had ever come across. It took quite some time before the Romans even dared launch their war in earnest against the Celts.
Well duh! They had to launch their wars against those that possed the greatest threat to them! The Guals were just in their land minding their own business! If the Romans wanted to expand their empire they would have to get rid of the other powerful empires first! And of coarse they feared the Guals! You would too if you saw thousands of angry looking men with giant swords coming at you! The Guals fought with the most ferocity than any other empire before! That's why the Romans feared them!
Alexander the Great once asked the gauls what they feared the most, they said they they feared the sky falling on their heads, meaning the romans fears were well founded, the gauls feared no one, not even rome
Vercingetorix was a great man to be able to match wits with caesar. He out-maneuvered caesar on more than one occasion and even defeated him at Gergovia. Keep in mind that Vercingetorix was leading a rag tag army of farmers against an army of well disciplined and seasoned veterans. For Vercingetorix to do as well as he did shows exceptional skill , charisma, and vision, and he made good use of scorched earth tactics.
You have to remember though that the Guals were very proud of their land. You might be able to compare the Gauls and Romans with the Americans and British during the Revolution. The colonials showed a lot of determination and defeated the most powerful military force on the planet at that time even though they had no army themselves. Of coarse there are many reasons this was able to be accomplished. I would tell you but I am running out of space...
All this propaganda-like preaching of heroic celtic deeds stands in no proportion whatever to the actual LASTING and truly history-making developments: It is the peoples of ancient Germania who CHANGED the course of European history. The ferocious cavallry attack of the Germanic allies of Caesar smashed the Gauls & Vercingetorix to pieces.
The shaping of formerly Celto-Gaulish regions by Sugambrii, Chamavii,Visigoths,Franks, Saxons and Allamanni is far more decisive than this Gaulish uprising
If Rome had camps and easy roads to travel in Germania like they did in Gaul, the Germans would have been whooped just like the Gauls. Romans had it easy in Gaul cause everything was set up for them already.
This movie is so bad, it has to be seen to be believed. They attempted to tell an epic and tragic story and ended with a piss poor Asterix episody. The more IT try to look serious, the more hilarious it looks.
vercingetorix wasnt a great man or a great leader,he was a dirty cockroach and was as weak as piss,his army of 200000 was no match for the 40000 roman soldiers,they got what they deserved
200 000 said you ? No, probably 30 or (most probably) 15 000. JC (Jules Cesar) exagerated alot the score of him ennemie. It's well knowed. It's impossible that the Gauls claim 200 000 warriors. Then, 2000 000 pah ! So idiotic !
And actually the Gauls were many tribes united under Vercingetorix.He surrendered to Julius Ceasar at the Battle of Alesia.He was then paraded throughout Rome and put in a dark prison in the city Of Rome.After twelve years there he was unceremoniusly strangled.A Sad end for such a great leader.
Also Vercingetorix I found is a Gaulish name meaning ver=superior cingeto=warrior rix=king.There is a Gaulish blog here on Youtube where you can hear Gaulish.Search Gaulish Blog.
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FAKE,this is not Vercingetorix but Raiden from mortal kombat!
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MisterAl6 1 month ago
PAR TOUTATIS!!! GAUL CISALPINE..
celticoinsubre 4 months ago
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Forces of Gauls: 80 000 in Alesia+over 200 000 auxiliary warriors outside,
Forces of Romans: ca 30 000, including auxiliary Germanics.
And the Gauls completely LOST!! They surrendered shamefully! Compare this to the conquest of Dacia 99-106 AC: five years of preparation, building of many forts around whole Dacia, many of bloody battles... Now, Asterix and Obelix both conquer Rome again and again... :) Sorry my english.
religiofob 4 months ago
Forces of Gauls: 80 000 in Alesia+over 200 000 auxiliary warriors outside,
Forces of Romans: ca 30 000, including auxiliary Germanics.
And the Gauls completely LOST!! They surrendered shamefully! Compare this to the conquest of Dacia 99-106 AC: five years of preparation, building of many forts around whole Dacia, many of bloody battles... Now, Asterix and Obelix both conquer Rome again and again... :) Sorry my english.
religiofob 4 months ago
Romans were 70 000 professionals soldiers well equiped and 10 000 of the best mercenary cavalry in the world, gauls where 80 000 starving men and 250 000 men most of whom not real warriors. Romans had superior generals to lead them. Top of them: Caesar of course.
etistone 4 months ago
@etistone
Romans:
According to Jean Markale or Gerard Walter (I'm not sure) - 30 000,
English Wiki - 80 000,
Polish Wiki - 50 000.
Not important. Anyway, the Gauls had a big dominance. I don't want to offend anyone - Vercingetorix is the great French hero (although he was Celt not French).
PS. I maintain the conquest of Dacia is more interesting and forgotten. Baselessly...
Greetings!
religiofob 4 months ago
@etistone You mean the same 'professionals' who lost at Gergovia? Gaius Julius Caesar was not invincible. The only mercenaries Caesar would've had were the Remi and Lingones, both Gaulish tribes who did not unite under Vercingetorix.
Caesar won at Alesia because the Gallic reinforcements failed to use their numbers to their advantage, and what Caesar accomplished was tactical brilliancy. Still, he made the big mistake of being power-hungry, which ended up costing him his life as emperor.
celticbattleaxe 3 months ago
@etistone They may have had German mercenaries - I don't have enough info to confirm that.
celticbattleaxe 3 months ago
@celticbattleaxe
The battle of gergovia was lost by a mistransmission of a retreat order from Caesar. The legions kept pushing forward and sustained heavy losses before withdrawing. Then Ceasar covered them with some reserve troops and moved on. He was not invincible indeed but as a great generals, he had a B plan that made Gergovia a bitter rather than a catastrophic defeat allowing him to continue the war. And he had Gauls mercenaries as well, you're right.
etistone 2 months ago
@etistone Indeed! :) He had the Remi and Lingones and the only mercenaries, I believe.
celticbattleaxe 1 month ago
@celticbattleaxe By contrast, at Alesia, the last day of battle the Gauls thrown 50000 of their best warriors in the battle to try to break trew a weak point. After a fierce fight they had to retreat, and nobody was here to cover them. They were slaugtered.
etistone 2 months ago
@etistone Wait a second - is this the attack at the ramparts by the Gaul relief force? And if so, which relief force?
celticbattleaxe 1 month ago
@celticbattleaxe Well, I'm not sure, I didn't see this movie. But it's not nown for it's quality nor it's historical accuracy, quite the opposite actualy. As for the battle of Alesia, it lasted several days with several attempts and differents tactics from the gaul relief force (gauls from all the country).
etistone 1 month ago
@etistone Agreed - historians are just now beginning to realize that the Roman documents about the Celts have been biased, and much of the info is probably false. Caesars 'Gallic Wars', for example, have false statements that he probably used to convince the Senate to continue hos conquest in Gaul, and then extend into Albion. Alesia was won only by tactical superiority, if you ask me. The Gauls sent two relief forces, both of great size, but they did not know how to use their numbers
celticbattleaxe 1 month ago
@etistone ...to their advantage. They should have encircles Caesar's ramparts to keep them in one place, and thereby cutting off him to supplies and contact to other legions near the Alps. The Gauls lost because they attacked Caesar using too many troops in one place, plus, they had no siege equipment (catapults) to destroy the ramparts.
celticbattleaxe 1 month ago
Not a French hero, but a Celtic hero! The Gauls were closer to the Scots and Irish than to the French!
HoundofOdin 6 months ago
Vercingetorix is not French national hero he is just another celtic warlord as there were thousands of them in the ancient world. to speak of a national hero is a gross anachronism as nothing French existed at that time, it was to take 1500 years before people were talking of France. Im German, it took us even longer ;)
dertell 8 months ago
@dertell Well he was the hero of the people ancestor to the French people...which kind of makes him their hero. I get it. It's not anachronism, it's continuity. But he's not a French hero, he's a Gallic hero, there you go.
AuxaneD 7 months ago
@forgottenrebel88
"as useless as a pair of tits on a nun"
Now that is a phrase I'll have to remember.
Thesterness 11 months ago
Vercingetorix is the greatest warrior ever
y2jtakerfan4ever 1 year ago
What...republican Romans with Lorica Segmentata. That really is crap. 100 years along and you might see this armour on a Roman.
seenitdoneit 1 year ago
Quelle daube!!!
poiuy1970 1 year ago
THE MOST HORRIFYING BATTLE IN ANCIENT HISTORY -LEARN THE SPECIFICS. WIVES AND CHILDREN WERE LEFT TO STARVE AND BE SLAUGHTERED BY ROMAN TROOPS -THIS WAS CEASER'S FINAL MOMENT IN THE SUN. HE BURNS IN HELL BECAUSE OF THIS BATTLE
otto3663 1 year ago
@otto3663 not hell hel home to norse goddess Hel
cartoonkingforeever 1 year ago
@otto3663 That was the Gallic Mandubii's decision, to expel women and children from the citadel hoping the Romans would open a breach to let them go. At the same time, this would have been an oppurtunity for breaking their lines.
230rei 1 year ago
@otto3663 everyone winner in wars in those times is surely burning in hell ................alexander the great too maybe.......
titor2056 1 year ago
@otto3663 Dude... The Gauls actually got rid of their elderly, women and children to a. spare food b. hope to get a lucky break when the romans let them through. The Romans did not kill anyone; all those people died of starvation because their own husbands, sons and fathers let them die instead of surrendering.
Skyduke 11 months ago
@Skyduke That makes the Romans seem like "good guys". What about in Gaulish culture it was a legal obligation to take care of the sick, mentally handicapped or young children whereas in Roman society you could leave a baby to die in the open? Fact: The Gauls were desperate far beyond the Romans at Alesia, and their law was far more enlightened than Rome imo. People today view non-Rome as barbaric. Alaric (not Gaulish) ordered his men to be as unatrocious as possible when he sacked Rome
evolooshion 9 months ago
@evolooshion
So true. Alaric was a Germanic chieftain, who may have had an even more barbaric reputation among the Romans. And indeed, in the Roman Empire, peace often lasten multiple centuries, so their civilisation had brought peace, but inside of it´s body the Roman state was sick with decadence, sadism, and sodomy. I have never heard of gladiator games and large orgies occuring withing Celtic and Germanic societies back then. Who´s the barbarian in here?:P
kriddie88 5 months ago
@Skyduke Also, the Gauls did let their women and children back into the city eventually. Something you left out :)
evolooshion 9 months ago
@evolooshion Huh?
Can you site a source for that..?
I've never been aware of this...
CMLaneLV 5 months ago
I have heard there is a statue of vercingetorix in France, near where Alesia used to be, does anyone know where that is?
keube666 1 year ago
@keube666
Pour trouver la statue de vercingétorix il te faudra allez en Auvergne. De plus une fois là bas tu ne peux la rater et de toute façon tous les auvergnat la connaissent. Cela dis Alésia n'a pas été officiellement découvert. Depuis peu des fouilles ont révélé que les cités gauloise (En Auvergne) étaient imence et faite de pierre et non de bois.
AronOlivier 8 months ago
@AronOlivier thanks,
keube666 7 months ago
vercingetorix and viriato fuck roma
rayb3n1994r 1 year ago
Quelle erreur tragique
3anaurv2 1 year ago
sa ne respecte pas les fe historique mais certaine scene sont bien filmer mais il n y a vraiment aucune authenticité
Sylvain42170 1 year ago
@forgottenrebel88 French are less nervious and are more quiets that spanish,italian and portugueses.
olbodala 1 year ago
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olbodala 1 year ago
@forgottenrebel88 Facts are facts,sorry.
olbodala 1 year ago
@forgottenrebel88 And Napoleon III started to define our country(France) as latin in order to have influence in south america,even it was false.It's again him who talked about latina america,and always in the same way.
olbodala 1 year ago
@forgottenrebel88 Before Napoleon III,and under the different royal French gouvernement(king's ministers),French diplomacy defined our country as a germanic and keltic kingdom.
olbodala 1 year ago
@forgottenrebel88 The language is a thing,but about the racial point of view,it's really different(except in the extrem south and in corsica).
olbodala 1 year ago
@forgottenrebel88 We are not latins,we are germano-celtics,not latins.
olbodala 1 year ago
I think French more like Romans then Celts now.
Atlantean777 1 year ago
@Atlantean777 No,because italians are mediterraneans,where as French are germano-keltics peoples(except for language).
olbodala 1 year ago
stupid celts!!!!!!!
CROMATICTIC 1 year ago
@CROMATICTIC Stupid gipsy!
olbodala 1 year ago
Not very professional fight choreography.
Laranzava 1 year ago
i want to see lambert fight it out with mel gibson to see who is the ultimate badasss
illbetilbake 2 years ago
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themovieguy364 2 years ago
Sadly yes. I just want to say I liked Lambert in some stuff like Highlander (original) but this is just garbage. I mean okay I enjoyed seeing Max von Sydow and the battle at Alesia is SLIGHTELY better than the rest of the film and a little more accurate, but it's very brief and still lacks in alot of things. The worst was seeing this version of Caesar, and the scene of him marching on Alesia with camera shots and music resembling a really BAD music video. History and this movie deserved better.
themovieguy364 2 years ago 2
I'm French, This film is a disgrace to our hero Vercingetorix
gipcambero 2 years ago 37
Vercingetorix just made one small mistake, and I think that is pretty impressive for the commander of such a large army. He gave caesar a run for his money.
gishkiman 2 years ago
@gipcambero I do understand the symbolism of Vercingetorix as the French National Hero... however, it is akin to Arthurian sentiment in England. Much as Arthur was not English (rather defeater of the English) Vercingetorix was not French. In fact, the Romans all but washed his Gallic culture away before themselves being subdued by the Germanic Franks. I mean no insult, but it is one of those paradoxical hero systems. Too bad no one really had the equivalent of Germany's Arminius.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion
9/10 of what Gaul encompassed is present day France and vercingetorix is the gallic leader that unite all Celtics tribes of Gaul to fight the Romans. Then at the time of Arminius Germany didn't exist too. People always think about Alesia but Vercingetorix won at Gergovia. Then I think it is difficult to compare England and France since Angles, Saxons and jutes almost massacred the former Celtic population of England (except some part in the West middlands, Cornwall...)
gipcambero 1 year ago
@gipcambero You seem to have missed my point. I am not talking about land or genetics but culture. France is culturally a mix of Romans, Goths, and Francs which replace Gallic cutlure (nearly) perfectly. My Arthurian point was that he English reveer Arhur as their hero while his origin destroyed the english and they only made a comeback nearly 70 years later. But Arminius united what would one day unite into Germany anyway (culturally the same goup as today).
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion AS I said... I mean no inslut. I am just pointing out that Arminius is really the only person with a cultural link to the people who revere him. I am not talking about area or genetics... I am not talking about countries, rather cultures. Arthur *would have been* Welsh, Vercingetorics was Gallic. Arminius was Germanic.
But that is beside the point. I never meant to bring up Arminius as a point of interest. Just to say Vercingetorics was not French.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
If you consider that language only made a nation so you're right. But in this case, What is Germany ?? The area that encompasse all germanic speaking tribes ?? So at the Time of Arminius Germany was a country comprising the area from Scandinavia to russia ??
gipcambero 1 year ago
@gipcambero Again... you are completely misinterpreting what I am saying. Firstly that Arminius was never intended to be held above anyone. Secondly... I am not talking about language making a country. I am nt talki about a nation AT ALL. What I am saying is that Vercingetorix was a Gaul. Gallic CULTURE was replaced by Roman CULTURE almost perfectly. Then Germanic CULTURE filled in some parts of that Roman CULTURE.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion The CULTURE Vercingetorix fought to protect had long since been subdued and conquered by the CULTER he fought against. Likewise with Arthur who fought against the invading Anglo-Saxons of the Germanic CULTURE while his Roman CULTURE (Roman having subdued the Brythonic) was then replaced by that. My point is... yes Germania was a large area... but Germany shares the Germanic CULTURAL ties with Arminius. Once again... forget language, we are talking tongue, gods, and daily life.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
Evereybody knows he was gallic. But German people have stopped to believe in their gods since Charlemagne and daily life in the time of Arminius is completely different from what it would be later in the Holy german empire or Habsburg empire. Both Vercingetorix and arminius became real Symbolic figure since the 19th century and the rise of Nationalism
gipcambero 1 year ago
@gipcambero Firstly... it was the Holy Roman Empire...
But German Culture has evolved since then. Just because they stopped believing in their old gods and proceded in the act of civilizing does not mean they are a different culture. They have been influenced by outside cultures but German culture did not cease to be german culture when they became christians and started living in concrete buildings.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@gipcambero Same with language... you recognize that "If you consider that language only made a nation so you're right." but the german language of today is much evolved from that of yore. The culture has evok]lved but it was never replaced. The ultimate point it that the France of today is the very thing Vercingetorix fought AGAINST. Again, this is not to demean Vercingetorix or to put Arminius on a pedistol, merely to say that Vercingetorix has a very miniscule role as a french hero.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
I've always said that if we talk about language you are right but you also said "forget language" lol
gipcambero 1 year ago
If you consider that more than 50% of the French lived in the countryside until the 1930s as peasants in villages and cities that already existed before the Roman conquest (almost al the names of the palce are Celtics or pre-indoeuropean) so French daily life has little evolved since Vercingetorix.
gipcambero 1 year ago
@gipcambero Placenames mean nothing. Scotland has Pictish placenames (even though the picts have long since disappeared). America is full of Native American placenames where the Natives have been driven out from.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion You're right name of places mean nothing. I'm from southern brazil. Perhaps the name of most places are indigenous however, there's very little or virtually no influence culturally or genetically of amerindians in the southern brazilian society. i don't understand this Celtic revival some people are trying to do, and ignore that in the eyes of the civilised romans they were nothing but babarians uncapable of creating a true civilisation.
Louieinoz 1 year ago
@Louieinoz I wouldn't go that far. The celts were quite advanced, giving the world chainmail even andbog iron collection. They had language, and religion, and cultural depth. They were settling into groing cities much like those of Rome when the Caesar began his conquest. Given time, they probably could have reach the level of civilization that Rome head reached.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
If he lived in the middle ages in any countryside of France it would be the same thing while if Arminius had discover Holy Roman Empire in the middle ages he would have discoverd a Urban, catholic society.
gipcambero 1 year ago
@gipcambero In any case, Arminius was an afterthought... a half hearted remark. The point of my original coment was this: France today as a culture has decended from Roman, Gothic, Frankinsh, etc cultures mixed together. Vercingetorix was a Gaul who fought to defend his culture against the incursion of the parent culture of modern france. It matters not wether one lives in the country or city... the French culture is that of a Romance society, not Celtic.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@gipcambero Also, Urban has no bearing either... the process of civilization means building cities... Catholic was a matter of conversion while most other aspects of germanic society remained from art to language to germanic law. Urbanization was occuring throught the area at the time of the Roman invasion. It is therefore safe to say that wether or not Rome had influenced Germanic culture, it too would have developed large cities without losing a cultural identiy on that basis.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion Dumbass,racialy,French are germanics and keltics,moron.
olbodala 1 year ago
@olbodala Don't call me a dumbass, Dumbass... I never said shit about race. I don't give two shits about race. Culturally, the French have lost their Celtic identity. Culturally, the French are latin like the Itlalians and the Spanish (The Spanish, too, having Celtic, and pre-celtic, origins). And the Germanic impact on the genepool was relatively small as well, so genetically they are mostly Celtic, but in DNA alone, they are a Romance Culture with strong German ties.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion False,the majority of pure stock French(not arabs or blacks) are germanics/keltics(85%),and off course,Keltics like germanics tribes come from germany.
The mediterraneans peoples are in the extrem south and in corsica.
Spanish celtics?Very few,very few.They are iberics in majority,like there's some iberics and ligurians in the south of France.
olbodala 1 year ago
@olbodala Ok, Here's it strait... Celts (not Keltics) are not a genetic group like Germans, it is a cultural link which spread out from modern day germany into previously existing populations. Being from lands north of the sea results in fairer skin (period) and does not mean they are German... it is a biological safety mechanism.
And you don't help your "factrs" by showing complete failure in your adjective use fro these peoples.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion The failure,it's you.
olbodala 1 year ago
@olbodala The failure, it's you. do you see how ineffective that is? what you're saying is: "I'm right because *I* said so." face it, you're wrong, the fact that you don't know that the word is "Celts" not "Keltics" leads me to the conclusion that you didn't look any of this up
SLICSfootbaby 1 year ago
@SLICSfootbaby Failure yourself,moron.I'm French(white germano-celtic of breton-normand root by my father and southern french by my mother),so i know best than a mexishit like you.
olbodala 1 year ago
@olbodala and He is my brother so he too is more Germano-Celtic than your World War losing punk-ass coward!
(And our family left France over 200 years before the World Wars so we exape that failure...)
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion But my apologizes,because i had been rude with you.
olbodala 1 year ago
@LordTharrion Celts come from south germany and danmark.To my mind,you must be a jew,or a latin trash.
olbodala 1 year ago
@olbodala I am Catholic and Irish, Scotish, French, and English you racist whore nazi. bastard! I'm more Celtic than you are!
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion And more germanic too!
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion I'm not racist,i'm a white(French) nationalist.My father is breton/normand(of saint-briac) and my mother is of Cannes.But you seem a very disgracefull person.We can't talk with you.My familly name is "Louaisil".
Yes,i'm national socialist and monarchist too.Italians,spanish,portugueses are latins,French(pure stock) are celtics,germanics(85%,north,center,west east,to arvern) and italo-iberic in the south(15%).And about germans,they don't come from of scandinavia,but from germany.
olbodala 1 year ago
@olbodala Your griping about my supposed race and religion deffinately make you a RACIST and ANTISEMITE! And honestly, you can't be a socialist AND a monarchist... it's like being a Democrat AND a Tyrant.
How am I a "disgraceful" person? is it for being disgusted by your bigotry and assumuptiveness? Why can't you talk to me? and I don't care what your last name is... mine is french as well... HALF on my father's side and a good chunk on my mother's too.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@olbodala Youcan't use modern boudaries to apply to ancient cultures. the germans of the period were living in what is now northern and central germany up into modern Norway and Sweden. Denmark is the ancestral home to the English. case in point: the English come from the Angles, Saxons, Frisians, and Jute, etc. from Frisia and Denmark. The tribes migrated and now have formed modern countries. Sachsen is not where the Saxons came from, only where they went.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion Always in the moon,like i see....
olbodala 1 year ago
@LordTharrion We(true french) aren't latins,because we are germano-keltics in majority(except in extrem south and corsica) where as true latins peoples are mediterraneans like portugueses,italians(except in north),spanish.
olbodala 1 year ago
@olbodala Are you fucking retarded? I told you you were geneticly decended from the Celts of Gaul. It is culturally that you are latin. And the Celts spread from Britain and Spain across central europe to the middle east and were (again) a culture not a race. The Celitc culture originated in what is (only today) southern germany while the germans came from northern europe from Scandanavia to northern germany only later invading and conquering the Celtic populations
LordTharrion 1 year ago
@LordTharrion At the beginning,inhabitants of scandinavia were suomi,who were and are blond hair and blue eyes.First Germans(brown/black/red hair and hazel or marron eyes like first celtics) who come from germany,arrived and colonized the scandinavia,and intermix with blond hair peoples(finno-ugrian peoples and baltics peoples).And after,scandinavian germanized peoples were mixed with celtics.That's all.
olbodala 1 year ago
@olbodala Scandinvaians were Germanic, SAMI were the people (Suomi is finland) of northern Scanidinavia. Blue eyes originated around the black sea not witht he Sami abd were most prevalent with the germans and blond hair in lithuania among the newly arrive Indo-europeans (of whom the Sami are not a part) and also became most common among the germans.
LordTharrion 1 year ago
To a Roman mind, "German" was a general word to describe people north of the Alps, as you can say Celt, slave or today Latin. There isn't 1 Germanic nation, 1 Celtic nation, 1 Latin Nation or 1 slavic nation. When the Franks invaded Gaul, there was already 20 milion of inhabitant there, so most of French have gallic ancestor, like most of the name of the place and city have celtic etymologies
gipcambero 1 year ago
@gipcambero catalonia is the origen gaulish
Thorkeltt 1 year ago
@Thorkeltt No its not
seenitdoneit 1 year ago
@gipcambero
Yes it's true. I think that Christophe Lambert stay too much time with apes in "Greystoke"...
guitoulamalice 1 year ago
@gipcambero why ????? the Verc wasnt a french ; he was a gaelic son not offspring of the filthy Franks and Goths :
magnvsmarcvs 1 year ago
@magnvsmarcvs the only frankish in france is the name, everything else is gaulish and i can ensure you that french have 100% gaulish roots.today france is full of algerians, morocans etc., but true french are gauls.BTW i am not french.
brennusduxgallorum 10 months ago
@brennusduxgallorum OK
magnvsmarcvs 10 months ago
@gipcambero It was directed by a Frenchman. Shame he was more interested in booze and bulgarian prostitutes while filming it than in the story itself. Funny though, he was the producer too and lost lots of money.
maznyo 10 months ago
Good story
Terrible film adaptation
themovieguy364 2 years ago 21
anybody knows the name of the song?
Linkinpark1988 2 years ago
for the love of god can they make a movie about pre birth of christ rome where the romans have the proper armour the only one to come close was HBO's Rome
Yorgar 2 years ago
Cesar never fought with the allied Gauls but only the rebel populations
simbadsail 2 years ago
Rebels or patriots or freedom fighters? All depends on your perspective! :)
paulwyrd 2 years ago 2
from what movie is this pls tell me
tnx in advance
RaceLord 2 years ago
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groo46 2 years ago
The movie is called Druids with Christopher Lamber
groo46 2 years ago
thnx groo46
RaceLord 2 years ago
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paulwyrd 2 years ago
but also the building of temples, thermal baths and theaters, in short the civilization..thing that instead beyond the river rhein in the earths of the German didn't happen.for the one who wanted to criticize what I said, think to what reason if not to the strong imprint that the Romans left today still in gaul (more than in other countries from them conquered) it speaks a mole-Latin language.and why in the post-imperial age so many generasl and Roman historians came from gaul
wererjydjkljbhgoljl 2 years ago
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lux63 2 years ago 2
Well the romans DID exterminate a large portion of gauls, roughly 25% it might be estimated due to the eradication of many populations in cities.
But yes, Gaul was still populated by... Gauls. who became largely romanized by the time the Franks had attacked
effigyoflight 2 years ago
Hé.. We need to separate French (Franc) dynasty from the people of France. French dynasty was Franc (half Franc for being correct). But the people of France have no Franc origin. If you say that, you say the same than "the Wales are English because they was under English Realms since the 13 century". If a Wales heard that he will say "It"s fals" and yes... It's fals like saying that French, Walloons, Swiss Romanche are Germans. No, they are no German, they belong to Celts world...
Attrebates 2 years ago
Where is Obelix?
73hd99w 2 years ago
French people have little to do with the Gauls. The French descend from the Franks mostly. Germanic tribe beyond the Rhine. Many French have Roman genes as well. But claiming that they descend from the Gauls is far fetched, and a false claim.
Tavi13 2 years ago
I am niether French nor Gallic, however I am a Celt. The Romans did endeed conquer Gaul, however the Frankish tribes arrived only after the fall of the Romans, to a land largely inhabited by Gauls. If anything is farfetched it is your statements. Oh, yeah, Obelix is alive and living well in Bretagne.
oldbikersrule 2 years ago
Nonsense; 70% of French people have DNA common to the Celtic tribes of the area. Around 20% have Teutonic DNA. Just because one group was conquered by another, that does not mean the native population was exterminated. If that was so, we would still be living in the Middle Ages.
nohatersever 2 years ago
Nonsense? if there is a way you can prove this, ill believe you. until then, stop posting nonsense.
Tavi13 2 years ago
Google "iGENEA" and click on the first link. They specialize in genetic studies. On the left hand side, one should see a section labelled "Customer's favorites". Under this, there should be a link saying "statistics"; click it. At the upper right corner it should say: "Statistics: Indigenous Peoples"; click it. Then, just click France and you got your data. You can also look at haplogroups if you would like. It should say: R1B=70%. R1b is typical Celtic DNA which is found in Ires and Scots.
nohatersever 2 years ago
Totally fals. Almost 1% of the population of Wallonia have German origin (source : LeSoir Histoire de Belgique Wallonne). 1% it's not the majority. As I said the Royal Family of France was German, but not the people. And even the royal family was not totally German... There was old Gauls-Roman family also.
Attrebates 2 years ago 3
Read Caesar's "Commentaries on the Gallic War". They are the finest series of military dispatches ever written. You will gain a much greater understanding of the conflict than by watching a silly film.
andergriff 2 years ago 4
And when I see people denied the Celtic origin of French.. It's just ridiculous... French = Gauls, the most powerfull Celtic people who ever existed. Except Walloons.
Attrebates 2 years ago
the french were decended form the franks
puchy110 2 years ago
@Attrebates Yes,right,French are germano-keltics,even the celtic part was more important.Celts were ancestors of german peoples.
olbodala 1 year ago
oO it's maybe because Gauls are the French and Belgian ancestor... You know thinking is not forgiven....
Attrebates 2 years ago
Btw the Roman soldiers uniform is wrong, they used chain mail during this time.
The metal stripes armour only came at the end of 1st century AC.
Mortyr79 2 years ago
Why the fuck is this in French, i want the English version where is it?!
Mortyr79 2 years ago
IIIIIGGGGGIIIITTTTT
Marinie123 2 years ago
guys, i would appreciat if someone can tell me the type of the song starting 04:44 ? its also in Hector's death !!!!
Please i need help here hehe
fouadsanan 2 years ago
celts were not a people greeks and later romans used the world to define people to the north and west. so romans were celts to the eyes of greeks and romans adopted plenty of celtic objects such as the rectangular shield they both ate wheat maize so it's unuseful to distinguish between graeco romans and Celts. The romans were a mix of celts and greeks
wolpm 2 years ago
Long Live The Gauls - The Gauls Will Rise Again!
cranyonrye 2 years ago 3
the romans crushed the filthy barbarians. you got to love it.
boynamedblue 3 years ago
@ersonoro ..... Pendant la 2 eme guerre mondiale , même nous plié par les allemands , vous avez essayé de nous attaquer par les alpes , toute votre belle armée italienne fut repoussé par un régiment de chasseur alpin français ....
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ital 0 ....
comme on a coutume de dire chez nous , l armée italienne à 1 marche avant , pour 5 marche arriere ....
lug54 3 years ago 3
bla bla bla pendantu n par e cazzi parla potabile
ersonoro 2 years ago
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ersonoro 3 years ago
What are you talking about? The Roma have absolutely nothing to do with this event.
Solechnaya 2 years ago
ROMA è la capitale d'italia burino
ersonoro 2 years ago
Even though I cannot understand Italian, I will use whatever knowledge I have on the romantic languages in general.
You just said that "Rome is the capital of Italy".
I was refering to the Romani.
Solechnaya 2 years ago
Actually, it took the Romans nine years to conquer the Celts, how long did it take for egypt, Greece, palestine and just about the rest of the world? One day, Never forget that.
bellynda1 3 years ago
Romans and their sympathizers were then, and are now completely feminized dick twiddlers.
melervious 3 years ago 2
Roman ways in infiltrating their enemies for traitors and their enemies' enemies won the day. The average Roman man was a soon to be Christianized sissy faggot. The cock guzzling Romans to a man were no match for any Celt man. Read the Roman accounts of the Celts some time. They and the Greeks alike were more fearful of them than any other enemy they had ever come across. It took quite some time before the Romans even dared launch their war in earnest against the Celts.
melervious 3 years ago
Well duh! They had to launch their wars against those that possed the greatest threat to them! The Guals were just in their land minding their own business! If the Romans wanted to expand their empire they would have to get rid of the other powerful empires first! And of coarse they feared the Guals! You would too if you saw thousands of angry looking men with giant swords coming at you! The Guals fought with the most ferocity than any other empire before! That's why the Romans feared them!
Sharkbait132 3 years ago
Alexander the Great once asked the gauls what they feared the most, they said they they feared the sky falling on their heads, meaning the romans fears were well founded, the gauls feared no one, not even rome
chas1123 3 years ago 2
So well said. yes very truthful, and apparently Alexander was quit amazed.
bellynda1 3 years ago 2
whats show or movie is this?
TenthLegionX 3 years ago
get over it fuck wit,it was over 200000 against 40000 and roman might showed them who"s boss
mmadddog 3 years ago
Vercingetorix was a great man to be able to match wits with caesar. He out-maneuvered caesar on more than one occasion and even defeated him at Gergovia. Keep in mind that Vercingetorix was leading a rag tag army of farmers against an army of well disciplined and seasoned veterans. For Vercingetorix to do as well as he did shows exceptional skill , charisma, and vision, and he made good use of scorched earth tactics.
PhantomDruid 3 years ago 3
You have to remember though that the Guals were very proud of their land. You might be able to compare the Gauls and Romans with the Americans and British during the Revolution. The colonials showed a lot of determination and defeated the most powerful military force on the planet at that time even though they had no army themselves. Of coarse there are many reasons this was able to be accomplished. I would tell you but I am running out of space...
Sharkbait132 3 years ago
Could anyone put some subtitles?
thank you
ireligion 3 years ago
All this propaganda-like preaching of heroic celtic deeds stands in no proportion whatever to the actual LASTING and truly history-making developments: It is the peoples of ancient Germania who CHANGED the course of European history. The ferocious cavallry attack of the Germanic allies of Caesar smashed the Gauls & Vercingetorix to pieces.
The shaping of formerly Celto-Gaulish regions by Sugambrii, Chamavii,Visigoths,Franks, Saxons and Allamanni is far more decisive than this Gaulish uprising
Bayonetter 3 years ago
the germans attacked when Rome was Week
Quentin0000000000 3 years ago
If Rome had camps and easy roads to travel in Germania like they did in Gaul, the Germans would have been whooped just like the Gauls. Romans had it easy in Gaul cause everything was set up for them already.
PhantomDruid 3 years ago
Vercingetorix was a great leader who united
all the Gauls, but quite a poor general actually,
He should have broken most of his men out of
Alesia and attacked the Romans while they
were still busy building that enclosure, rather
than waiting inside like a starving fool about
to be trapped.
ThamMalaysia 3 years ago 3
v 45'000 veteran legion ares
Quentin0000000000 3 years ago
He had 80,000 infantry and 16,000 cavalry.
Seems all the foot troops ran back inside the
fort after their cavalry were decimated by
the fewer Roman cavalry. These Gauls seem
poor and cowardly fighters, loosing heart after
a defeat. Vercingetorix had no sense of tactics.
ThamMalaysia 3 years ago
true but they were mainly peasants armed with a spear and shield.
v a highly organized killing machine under the command of one of the greatest generals in western history.
Quentin0000000000 3 years ago
This movie is so bad, it has to be seen to be believed. They attempted to tell an epic and tragic story and ended with a piss poor Asterix episody. The more IT try to look serious, the more hilarious it looks.
sebas71 3 years ago
vercingetorix wasnt a great man or a great leader,he was a dirty cockroach and was as weak as piss,his army of 200000 was no match for the 40000 roman soldiers,they got what they deserved
mmadddog 3 years ago
fuck you
NZealandKiwi 3 years ago
WOW! they are twice the numbers... Of course he loses you fucking retard.
metabollica 3 years ago
I need to ask to that.
200 000 said you ? No, probably 30 or (most probably) 15 000. JC (Jules Cesar) exagerated alot the score of him ennemie. It's well knowed. It's impossible that the Gauls claim 200 000 warriors. Then, 2000 000 pah ! So idiotic !
MarbourgEoten 3 years ago
quel est le titre de ce film? merci!
ChiudiLaPorta 3 years ago
And actually the Gauls were many tribes united under Vercingetorix.He surrendered to Julius Ceasar at the Battle of Alesia.He was then paraded throughout Rome and put in a dark prison in the city Of Rome.After twelve years there he was unceremoniusly strangled.A Sad end for such a great leader.
irishoforiel 3 years ago
Exactly true, a sad end... Poor brave men...
Hopefully some of him general, like Commios survived znd raise resistance.
Vercingetorix is a hero of continental Celts, mainly ignored sadelly...
Attrebates 3 years ago
Also Vercingetorix I found is a Gaulish name meaning ver=superior cingeto=warrior rix=king.There is a Gaulish blog here on Youtube where you can hear Gaulish.Search Gaulish Blog.
irishoforiel 3 years ago