Doe shot in Jaw lived for 4 days in suffering

[DeliberateCruelty]

Your "God" is words rewritten by selfish human not the word of God. You really should watch my upload called "Did Jesus condone hunting" ? The "holy bible" which you claim is all "true word of God" has 101 contradictions, condones slavery, rape, genocide and even human murder. So is that true too ?

[GaLpDist9]

Bitch. Im catholic but still hunting is part of life if we dont hunt they will overpopulate.

[DeliberateCruelty]

Gal, you have not watched any of my uploads have you? There is one called "why we have too many deer" please do watch.

[PRIMANOCTE]

Well what God do you pray to? This scripture is from the Bible. And right now we are discussing hunting, not Rape, slavery, genocide etc.

[DeliberateCruelty]

I don't "pray" to God, for God is my heart and I know what compassion and mercy is. Your meat eating and animal killing garbage you spout is words of man, not of God. Man corrupted the bible and if you going to believe God is about killing animals with such sadistic means as an arrow then that means you also believe God condones rape, slavery, genocide, murder and human and animals sacrifice in such beastial ways . You can't pick and choose your evil.

[PRIMANOCTE]

In Genesis 9 there is a change between man and animal. Up to this point, animals were not used as food. However, God now includes certain animals in the diet of mankind. God also puts fear of man into the animals. Again animals are used to fill the needs of men. However, God continues His command in verse two to watch over these animals.

[SweetJudith12345]

Awsome, just because your pa shoots and kill animals, it doesn't mean you have to. If your pa jumped off a bridge would you follow him?! No you wouldn't. There are so many people you can talk to about this. Dr. Best writes great articles, but you have to mean it, you have to want it, just let me know. And just hang on....But don't hunt anymore. We were put on this earth to be guardians for the sentient beings and killing wasn't part of that..

[DeliberateCruelty]

Absolutely Judith, God wanted us to be the Guardian when God said "dominion" not the destroyer. What kind of "God" would condone such sadism to innocent sentient being?

Then some people needed to kill for food, today's killing is far from that, its all about sports and trophy (recreational purpose). Plus it cost innocent human lives from DVA's to hunting accidents (see newest uploads).

[awesomeberri]

im 13 and i hunt and i shot my 1st deer yestrday it was a spike but i cryed i accidently shot its leg and i rember its look on its face il never forget when it tryed to run away from us but couldnt i stil cry alot when i think about it but as my pawpaw's uncle sais deer are put here to eat

[DeliberateCruelty]

@awesomeberri The reason why you cried is because your compassionate heart was telling you that its wrong to kill animals and that its not normal for human to kill. Your paw paw is wrong, animals were not put here for man to eat we have plenty of non animal food to live on and be healthy at the same time.

Follow your heart and do not kill no more.

[ICABOOSEI]

i hunt i just harvested my first buck and im fifteen i dont know why you have such a problem with hunting but if we didnt hunt animals in specific seasons that the DNR makes and plans there would be no deer cause all there food would be gone so if you love these majestic animals and you see one a couple of years from now remember that a hunter had stopped the deer population from spinning out of control im sorry but i have to state my reason on why you dont have one against hunting

[DeliberateCruelty]

@ICABOOSEI First of all its not "harvest" you KILLED your first buck. If its potatoes you use the word "harvest". What you are saying about DNR (Division of Nature Rapers) is wrong. DNR is deliberately producing deer for recreational purpose causing abundance of deer and high deer vehicle accident which means not only pain and suffering to the innocent animals but to innocent human lives. Hunting is what helped spread CWD and seems state after state its spreading.

[DeliberateCruelty]

@ICABOOSEI Deer Vehicle Accidents has gone up as the result of hunting, there are more deer today then ever before in unhealthy numbers. Also in 2008 deer killing season 68,000 deer were left wounded by hunters in Wisconsin. That is doing "good" for the deer? How many do they leave in other states?

We don't need sports hunting, there is no excuse to kill animals for self gratification and sports. These are activities for sick human beings with the mind of serial killers.

[drkslider1182]

first off if you name a deer your already pretty screwed up in the head. Put the deer out. Why make it suffer more? What if the deer has rabies? Will you try to save that too?

[DeliberateCruelty]

@drkslider1182 Animal are someone they are not just an object for your sick sports and recreation.

See how everyone points finger us but not at the hunting community.

[ASPEDBUSDRIVER1]

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[DeliberateCruelty]

@ASPEDBUSDRIVER1 How "original" lol!

[DeliberateCruelty]

Please do take the time to WATCH the video and READ (which I know sports wildlife killers have a hard time with). If your comment is has already been answered I will not post it so make sure yours is not the same repetitious BS. (READ back comments WELL).

[DeliberateCruelty]

They like to blame the women who photographed the wounded deer , instead of their own disgusting people. 

If she has to wait for the Fish and game people to come and help she will take photos so it can be exposed to the public of the cruelty that is part of recreational hunting. 68,000 wounded deer was not recovered by hunters last year in Wisconsin so we know there is so many deer crippled and wounded from sports hunting every year.

[coorscowgirl101]

well of course the person who took the bad shot is to blame for wonding the deer. But its also this womens fault for grabbing a camra and not a gun to shoot the doe. she prolonged its agony even let it wander off to come back 3 days later. she is as much at FAULT as the PERSON WHO TOOK A CRAPPY SHOT

[DeliberateCruelty]

OMG you see how pathetic your kind are? Blaming this women who is in her 50's and called for help from the Fish and Game for this deer and no one came. I am sure there are hunters around why didn't they do anything? They have the gun not this women.

[squirrel1612]

pinetag etc. people who eat meat like myself usually don't eat WILDLIFE. This is the whole point. We don't have to be vegans to appreciate WILDLIFE. If this is all you can spout about in your defence of killing wildlife for fun then take a hike !

[DeliberateCruelty]

Our fight is not about you being a vegan or flesh eaters our fight is about ending "sports" killing of innocent wildlife and while the pro-kill government continues to let deer herd produce for recreational purpose thus Deer Vehicle Accidents where innocent . human victims are involved in this too. There is a new post on my blogger called "should Hunting be responsible for DVA's"? on video info link >>>>

[squirrel1612]

Can't watch the video .........why on earth did this lady not try & get some help for this poor deer? How she could film this deers plight aswell is beyond me.

[DeliberateCruelty]

You should take the time to read what on the video and also the video response of another young doe found with an arrow in her nose.

[subysuby]

I eat and hunt animals this animal should have been put down immedatly and the meat donated to poor families. Love how people say they hate seeing things suffer but rather than help they take pics and complain about it, if you do not want to shoot it call a neighbor or someone that will. waiting days is stupid.

[DeliberateCruelty]

The wounded deer is the responsibility of the hunter and all that excuses of "feeding the poor" to take focus away from the cruelty . CWD disease is out there and wildlife killers continue to "give" these meat they would never eat to the poor when there are 150 billion pounds of food wasted in America every year. Those hunters for hungry is a sham, more places to dump the deer carcass more killing license the state can sell.

[6billionANDone]

I expect everyone who's left a comment on this video to have never eaten meat. Otherwise you are also killers and nothing more than hypocrites. Hunting is not killing. Hunting is the active pursuit of animals. Killing is what you do when you find one you are after. I hunt often, but rarely kill.

[DeliberateCruelty]

Yes everyone of us popped out of our mother womb as a vegan *roll eyes*. Besides this is not about food this is about killing for sports and trophy.

[susandumas]

The poor animal must have suffered terribly. If people who are not trained marksmen are allowed to kill, there is always a risk of accidents. Worse than the hunters (who fire their guns to compensate as they have small penises -- this has been proven in scientific research) are the DOW who did not bother to do their duty towards this poor creature. If the DOW are short of personnel to cover all incidents that are brought to their attention, they are giving out too many hunting permits.

[DeliberateCruelty]

Thank you for the small penis comment so damn true I saw the article about it too with sports hunters and small weenie :). The person can only take photograph of the cruelty she is not allowed to shoot at the deer besides she probably don't own guns. DOW should have been responsible to immediately come out and end the suffering of this beautiful sentient deer.

[sharpshooter0508]

I noticed you STILL haven't posted my comment disproving the 'small penis theory' and the website that was an April Fools joke from PETA.

What's the matter? Are you afraid that you'll lost the 'hard-earned credibility' you gained through your foggy lies and manipulation because of your display of foolishness through believing such rubbish? Or are you waiting for me to rant more so you may approve my multitude of statements, making me look like a fool, and you credible? Predictable, either way

[DeliberateCruelty]

Not a PETA stuff even from a psychologist say that sports hunters suffers from sexual inadequacy. (Check video response).

I don't sit around here all day waiting for comments to be posted so I can reply "ASAP".The same monotonous BS is usually yawned at and will be approved when I damn feel like it.

[coorscowgirl101]

so insted of getting a gun and putting this poor doe out of her misery she grabs her camra? that to me is her being absolutly cruel, then she lets it wander off and dosnt see it for days and when it comes back she grabs her camra again? weres her heart? and compassion aperantly she has none or no logic becuse if a deer that looked like that wandered into my yard i sure as heck would put it out of its misery BEFORE i grabed my camra. stupied city people

[DeliberateCruelty]

Coors drinking too much Coors to be paying attention.

[misplacedhate]

One last thing before i leave this to opinion. Why is it when it comes to hunting god is always brought into the argument. When it comes down to it. Its just a matter of opinion so if god gave us free will then as hunters its our right to choose to hunt as it is yours to fight against it. We will never see eye to eye and this debate will last forever. I will always be a hunter as my father was and his father. I respect your view on hunting and i hope one day you will respect ours.

[DeliberateCruelty]

Personally I don't like to bring God into any subject but its the wildlife killers who continue to use Gods name and quote their pathetic quote of "pull the quiver and get me thy venison" or "peter, kill and eat" that brings the subject of God and whats worse is that they use those man made quotes to justify sports killing of animals.

[NepheshAngel]

God said "thou shalt not kill" he did not give you "free will" then that means he gave serial killers"free will" to kill humans as well?? You keep using the word "hunter" instead of killers because that is what it its, KILLING. And God and killing does not go hand in hand.

[misplacedhate]

Im a hunter ill admit in fact opening day is saturday. Ill make no excuses this was caused by a careless hunter lacking the morals to take a clean shot and not make the animal suffer. Its people like these that give the rest of us bad names. As for the hunting for survival comment. i liked how ignorant you were by making such a remark i really dont think you could compare the lower 48 states with Africa, Iceland and Alaska. As a hunter i dont see the cruelty you do but i try to make a quick kill

[DeliberateCruelty]

There are places that is a necessity to kill for food or they will die of hunger but we know sports hunting is not about "hunger" lol

[NoNy241]

I know who you are

[DeliberateCruelty]

and?

[pinetag14]

It is convenient for you to make these statements in your "civilized" society but some people cannot survive without meat. People in African deserts don't have the luxury of farms, vegetables, and grocery stores. People in Iceland and Alaska cannot grow crops for half the year. You have the luxury to sit and comment but not everyone is so fortunate. Would you rather someone starve than "kill to survive"?

[DeliberateCruelty]

If you take the time to read rather then blabbering your fat mouth you will see I that I have nothing against survival killing. We do want to live too but that is for SURVIVAL which is none of you that come yap here is killing for.

[Deliber8Conservatoin]

DeliberateCuelty,

I just got two antlerless permits for here in Pennsylvania. I'm going to go out and kill two doe with my bow ...FOR YOU. I will film what I can in order to show how quick and efficient bowhunting is.

I've killed 3 deer so far this year, all archery. Watched all 3 drop. Killed 5 last year. All one arrow, one shot, one quick kill. I'll let my video, in your honor, speak for itself. You lie, distort, & mislead.

I'll kill 'em, & you judge how quickly they die.

[DeliberateCruelty]

What did I tell you all about bowkillers, they are disgusting, sadistic and they enjoy showing others their destruction of life similar to how Serial killers of humans love taking snuff videos. I have seen just about every one of the video of deer shot with an arrow and no "quick" death. When the jackass says "down" does not mean "dead" that is when the suffering begins.

[DeliberateCruelty]

The wildlife serial killers gets excited when deer goes down a certain yard because its rare and when he/she goes down the pain is immense and most time the wildlife serial killers aka "sportsman" waits for a while to make sure the animals are dead or "stiffen" this way they wont run further even with wounds because the animals are terrified and wants to live just like we as humans do. "Men" like deliberateconservatoin" (lol) would never want to die the way the deer he shot dies. Never.

[DeliberateCruelty]

I seen video of bowkillers quickly kicking the deer with their foot to make sure they are dead even after waiting for at least half hour to 45 min. Also what is a "conservatoin"? Because even "conservation" is a euphemism for "conserving" land to put more game animals to kill thus why the states that are the most heavily hunted has the most deer thus the highest DVA's. "Conservation" is to benefit the killers aka "sportsman".

[pinetag14]

"A peaceable kingdom where lions can lay down with the lamb..." The world will be that way one day but we live in the world as it exists. Animals kill animals for food, people kill animals FOR FOOD! Unless you yourself have never, not once, committed a sin against an animal then you cannot condemn anyone else. Have ever eaten meat? Have you ever killed an insect, even a lone spider in your home?

[DeliberateCruelty]

God did not make you a carnivores God designed man for plant eating and gave you the brain to know what is right and what is wrong. That is why God said "thou shalt not kill". Go watch my other video and the video about human anatomy designed by God for plants.

I never said I am pure and "Godly" but I never use Gods name for blasphemy and when I do wrong I feel guilt and try to not do it again. We have to try to cause least harm to sentient life as possible and should be their caretaker.

[pinetag14]

Can any of you answer my question? Why would animals kill if they are not sinful? This world is God's design and we are a part of it.

[DeliberateCruelty]

God had his purpose for animals that is why their body is designed for killing purpose where else man is not. Look at bowhunting, man has to wait for the animals to die (suffering) so that if they trampled their disgusting feet on the ground to retrieve the wounded deer the animals will run further. Man cannot run to catch prey and kill them quick for man was made for plants. Animals is also God way of keeping natural balance. Sorry but God did not give you that task.

[DeliberateCruelty]

Remember before the fall of man we were all plant eaters and what is God final prophecy? What is is ultimate desire? A peaceable kingdom where lions can lay down with the lamb and for man you should be the caretaker and keeping mother earth happy to the best of your ability. God gave your dominion to care for those lesser then, and I sure you can use the animals to help plantation and travel and in return you give them love and food.

[DeliberateCruelty]

All animals are innocents in Gods eyes for in Animals they all have purpose to keep healthy balance and to eat. Man whom God created in his image expected man to follow the rules and entrusted animals for you to care for them but instead you use selfish hardened heart to kill for self gratification. Mans food by God is plants not meat and when God "thou shalt not kill" he meant for man to abide by that rules.

[DeliberateCruelty]

Animals do not kill the way man kill, Animals kill for food and survival and that is all.

[CandidSari]

Sad.

I cannot stand ignorant hunters and their so-called "sports" ... They show little to no compassion for the lives they either take or cause suffering to (such as Angelina). A hunter is nothing more than a sadistic killer. I do not care what excuses they make for the offings of completely harmless creatures, nothing blinds the fact that they do it out of enjoyment and the feeling of "godlike" power. It is disgusting.

[DeliberateCruelty]

Hunters always uses the "food" excuses to make it look at if their killing is not just for the fact that they enjoy destroying innocent life. I can go into the forest and see an injured deer or rabbit and my heart breaks and have to call a wildlife rescue and to most its hard to even see a suffering of an animal yet these human lowlife can take an arrow or bullet and just shoot away with no feeling for the pain and suffering the animals are enduring especially in bowhunting.!

[Mercy4Wildlife]

There is nothing I enjoy more then to hear about hunting accident where the hunter dropped dead.

[BuckOfThunder]

poor mule deer doe, she must have suffered in soo much pain, she couldn't drink or eat, I'm glad you call her in to be put down.

But now she's in Heaven with God and he's proud of you for putting her down to end her suffering. For the scumbag hunter hell awaits him and i hope he dies in te same way as he made the doe suffer!!

[cobia1962]

weren't you just as cruel knowing the deer was mortally wounded and did not take matters in your own hands. I mean really, I am a hunter and feel just as bad as you did seeing this. But I would have dispatched the deer ASAP. end of story.agency or no agency everything in life is not perfect as someone mentioned nature had everything balanced and it was man that ruined all of that. so we can have peace and harmony for people above all other creatures. That's life.

[DeliberateCruelty]

The photos was sent to me, not my deer and even if it was its against the law by DNR to shoot an animal that is why these people had to wait for the slow ass heartless DOC to finally put her down. You'd think if these kind people who took the photo had the choice they would have shot her sooner? Where are the hunters? Why didn't they come out and shoot the doe out of her misery?

[pinetag14]

Obviously, you know very little about hunting. Yes, there are those who hunt for the trophy but there are plenty of people who hunt for food and take whatever animal comes to them. Keeping numbers in check? Well obviously you don't know that part of hunting's purpose is just that. Have you never scene a predatory animal attack? They wound and sometimes leave hald dead, half eaten animals to die slowly.

[DeliberateCruelty]

Well known reply from the wildlife serial killers when they know they are sadistic slobs are "have you ever seen animal attack a deer/elk" ? Their killing is for hunger and survival, yours is for fun and sports, so spare me that same repetitious "animal attack animal" excuses. Also I don't think wild animals leave thousands upon thousands of wounded animal every year for sports.

[pinetag14]

You are still not answering my question. Why would God design animals that way if they are not sinful? You say that man kills because he is sinful so if that's true, why do animals do it? You can't tell me that prey animals don't sufer at the hands/teeth of predators. I have seen videos of wolves eating on live deer. They break them down by taking out there back legs and feed on the hind end while the deer lays there helpless.

[DeliberateCruelty]

I find it funny how hunters would say "God gave us brain to make weapons to kill" yet what you don't understand is the God to my understanding did not "give" you brain to make weapons and to kill he would have designed you that way. God gave you the brain to follow the rules of "thou shalt not kill" and do the right thing. Animals in the wild may suffer but that suffer if for food and survival and also to keep a healthy balance.

[silentnightwhisper]

God gave you the brain to follow the rules of "thou shalt not kill"

Haha, is that really the best you can do? That is singlehandedly the worst argument I have ever heard an animal rights nut make.

Unimportant people like you may actually have more ppl to preach to if you weren't so idiotic. You use emotional hooks, and not logic.

[DeliberateCruelty]

Such hard command to follow, not to kill a living creature?

[pinetag14]

Why would all these animals have the specified traits that help them survive if it was not in God's design? Your video does not explain why animals are designed with claws and teeth. If it is man's sin (and his sin alone) that causes him to kill, why do animals do it?

[pinetag14]

I watched your video and if what you say is true, why are animals condemned for the sins of MAN? Do animals not kill other animals? They all have a purpose and some are designed to be predators and some are designed to be prey.

[DeliberateCruelty]

God made predatory to keep natural balance, God did not create man for that purpose. Look at yourself and look at the predatory animals..totally different. Predatory animals weed out the sickly to keep the strong and to keep number in check, man kills for sport the big healthy ones and leave thousands wounded and crippled.

[pinetag14]

You quote the bible and Christian beliefs but your thoughts are hypocritical. Animals were put here by God for humans to use.

Genesis 9:3

"Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything."

I don't condone deliberate suffering of animals but it is a part of the natural order of the world and it was created that way by God. Your thoughts are contradictory.

[DeliberateCruelty]

I guess you must have missed my video about the Jesus and hunting and I advise you to watch it

[DeliberateCruelty]

Seems you still have not watched the video. If God granted temporary permission after the flood , it was just that for temporary (though I heard from others all that flood and permission to eat meat is a farce and God never did gave any such permission) either or if God did give TEMPORARY permission because there was no plant source God wanted man to drain the blood for blood is a life is a soul. Who drains blood here? No one.

[DeliberateCruelty]

Anyone who comes here just for name calling their comment will simply be deleted and they will be blocked.

[lazemaple]

Nothing makes me angrier than Holier-Than-Thou types who allow animals to suffer while pointing the finger & waggling it at someone else! At least if the doe was free a predator might have taken it down! Oh PLEASE!!! Its ok for a hunter to kill the animal but not the sanctimonious Marilyn?? I would not have allowed the animal to suffer no matter what the stupid rules were! Holding an animal suffering like that is worse that what the idiot hunter did to it as she was Conscious of the injury!

[DeliberateCruelty]

Who is this "Holier-Than-Thou types who allow animals to suffer while pointing the finger and waggling it at someone else?"

[Penelope55100]

Please, please, people, when you will understand to be Kind to all animals?

[GorrillyGirl]

I think I would have just gotten out my rifle set my scope and ended it all for her poor suffering soul instead of waiting for these cracker heads...for days she was like this!!! Can you imagine the pain the hunger the confusion???

Gorilly Girl

[DeliberateCruelty]

I feel the same way but by the DOC law we could not do that its up to them but you can see just like DEC, DNR and all the pro-kill people they could care less about the suffering of the innocent sentient life.

[JustAHP]

What would a vet do if he or she saw a animal in great pain and no chance of survival? The vet would put the animal down. You let this poor deer live for 4 days watching it die a slow painful death. Why didn't you do the right thing and put the deer down? Do you think its ok to let animals hit by cars suffer for days,or do hate killing so much suffering makes you feel better? The suffering is on you. The bad shot is on the hunter. Letting a deer suffer like that for this video is sick.

[DeliberateCruelty]

they are not supposed to go out and shoot the deer and this women Marilyn does not own a gun. Its up to the DOC who are pro-kill agenices to "care" for the wounded animal and to end the misery ASAP.

[DrawionKuda]

poor animal.

those humans are no humans they are monsters ! hunters are monsters !

[BowHunterSDK]

You are all hypocrites of the worst kind. Your bleeding hearts cry because animals are being killed but in the same breath you wish for hunting accidents to kill hunters. Killing is either completely wrong for everything (including the people you don't like) or it's fine. Even the most ignorant morons would not argue against themselves. Your stupidity makes me laugh.

[DeliberateCruelty]

Lets rephrase that shall we?

"You are all hypocrites of the worst kind. Your bleeding hearts cry because innocent animals are being killed because we enjoy killing but in the same breath you wish for hunting accidents to kill heartless humans who enjoy killing animals for sports and trophy and have no compassion or mercy on their pain and suffering"

Sports hunters life to me is less worthy then a pile of dog crap.

[sharpshooter0508]

Alright, I also believe that hunting for the sheer 'sport' is sickening, but what about those of us that hunt for the food? Those of us that personally ensure to prevent deer from suffering any longer if wounded? 'Sport' hunters give the rest of us hunters a bad name; we hold far higher standards and ethics.

[bsballhobber]

i couldn't have put it any better

[AnimalRightsUnited]

My God this is truly horrific! Is there no end to the despicable acts of sheer wanton wickedness of hunters??

[DeliberateCruelty]

Now now you know how sports hunters thinks their life is more "important" then these defenseless creatures of God.

[390galaxie]

Sophia, GET A LIFE! You are both deliberatecruelty, nepheshangel, and many others. Your life must really be worthless to spend all of your time making accounts to make it seem like more people care than there really is!

[SweetTangerine10]

Pretty paranoid aren't? you but that is a sign of serial killers which is the same mentality as sports hunters.

[DeliberateCruelty]

In the Hebrew tradition, Sophia was considered to have been with God from the beginning of Creation. In Proverbs 8:27-31, Sophia says: When God set the heavens in place, I was present, When God drew a ring on the surface of the deep, When God fixed the clouds above, When God fixed fast the wells of the deep, when God assigned the sea its limits- and the waters will not invade the land, when God established the foundations of the earth,

cont.

[DeliberateCruelty]

I was by God's side, a master craftswoman, delighting God day after day, ever at play by God's side, at play everywhere in God's domain, delighting to be with the children of humanity.  Sophia, in the biblical creation was not a god, but was a divine being. It is not clear that she was uncreated like Jesus:

cont

[DeliberateCruelty]

the word used to refer to her creation also means "acquired" by God. Proverbs 8:22 -"God created me [acquired me] (Sophia) when God's purpose first unfolded." Ecclesiasticus 1:14 -"before all things, Sophia was created." She serves at the heart of the creative process, as Wisdom and as Teacher who was sent by God to save humanity. The book of Wisdom speaks to her divinity (7:25-26):

Interesting how you keep calling me "sophia" when my name is CarolineTC.

[NepheshAngel]

This is why I cherish hunting accident with death to the hunters.~!!

[AnimalRightsUnited]

Hunting accidents are a gift to the earth creatures!

[NepheshAngel]

Aint it the truth!!!!

[censor147]

Deer that are eaten by predators dont suffer do they? they just automatically die once they see a predator. ignorance! its called the circle of life, animals are going to die for others to survive. please get some sense.

[censor147]

are you an idiot? you wish death upon some one? you are no better than the people killing animals. I think you all are ignorant hipocrites, but i still do not wish death upon you. also, what about the deer you peta idiots smash with your eco friendly cars? do you block that out of your mind and pretend it never happened? or does reality set in and do you realize deer are suffering from car accidents as well as starvation? or what about a natural predator to the deer that depend on deer to survve