so it's basically building a physical multi-core processor, with some of the cores designated for processing graphics?
well that's hardly a solution for gaming PCs.
since technology limits the amount of transistors you can put on a single die, this will perform better than a mid-range CPU + on-board GPU, but not even close to the power of a high-end CPU + high-end graphics card.
maybe it's for laptops since one chip usually takes less electricity than 2 chips, I don't know.
@igortroy Price. The fact that you can get a quad-core processor that has better performance then even more expensive AMD CPUs AND you get a graphics card that can process DX 11 applications and is known to run Battlefield 3 with just the APU alone. Add a 6670, a very fast card for its price range, and wih the crossfire you can build a sub-$500 computer that can do basically anything.
@l3E7Studios wait, you can Crossfire an APU and a graphics card? now that is sweet!
I do think a good APU costs more than a good CPU, but less than CPU + graphics card for sure. so if what you say is true and I can make a Crossfire array with an APU and 1 6670, instead of two 6670's - that really is a good idea.
slightly less performance perhaps, but at roughly half the power consumption and 3/4 the price.
@igortroy You don't need the extra graphics card. APUs are known to run Battlefield 3 on Medium settings at 720p at playable framerates. That alone is outstanding considering adding the cost of a CPU and GPU to make that happen. Add a 6670 and that performance doubles and in some cases triple. Add other components and you can potentially build a $500-$600 computer that can perform any game, and most of them at the highest settings. Now that is why they sold more than 30 million last year. :)
@seroyer2 Or H67. And that's only because that's what the chipset allows, the integrated graphics are still built into the processor. With these APUs the graphics portion is such a major selling point that i can't imagine any AMD chipset disabling the onboard graphics. I could be wrong...but it seems completely illogical to me.
@TheRogueMonk more prossesing power will help gaming if it can be used. this could even be a offload for GPU accelerated application. that means fast simple tasks such as "if A = 3 substract 1" many of thise small tasks uses up space in the CPU since it is designed to do more than just small tasks. using GPU accelerated functions is terrible by the design of motherboads.
@CopyrightPropaganda I set up an Atom D525 + Nvidia ION2 Nettop for my bro before AMD's APU was out. It does decode 1080P video, but it has two limitations: The GPU is connected via a PCI-E 1x lane only, and despite the ATOM CPU being 1.6GHz dual core, it is rather slow.
@Cschive APU = Accelerated Processing Unit its main you dont need a vga card the cpu can work for a gpu = Graphics Processing Unit . So in short why the cpu can work like a gpu and the call it a apu. if you dont want to have a vga card just for let say not the money or you dont need the extra cost. You buy a mainboard that have onboard vga chipset or output. And if you are planning for this look for the cpu with (apu abilitie) the gave you the extra power. Sorry bad english
@TheVanGastel saw a video where the A3850 was giving 20fps on Crysis 2 dx11 on 1080p rez so i guess APU still have a long way to go before replacing the traditional cpu+gpu
@tarangkhaitan Yah offcourse its get you 20fps with crysis 2 why because of this. Let me try to explane it with my poor english. First you need to know that a vga card have more than only a gpu that drive a video card. Second the vga card have a on board anti aliasing/filtering chip that 200% speed up the texture frames. And thirth shader unit that (what all apu/cpu dont have) the "calculation" thats need to render the pixel. (commend 1)
@tarangkhaitan So in short if you turn off the shadows (or set low) and turn off the anti-aliasing/filter and mode the fps will increase like 100%. However if you increase the cpu speed and give (bios) more mhz/ghz to render(apu) that will increase the "calculations" thats need to render the pixel on your screen. The need indeed to "inprove it" but its the fist step. (commend 2)
--.-- I just bought an ASUS M4a88t-m/usb3 with an AMD Phenom II 3.2 GHZ dual core (Actually a Tri core because I unlocked it) and then the next day my friend tells me that he just heard about APU motherboards and stuff..... coulda saved 60 bucks or something but NOOOO -___-
@SnakerDLK ok, IE9 is crap but Office is vital for business and Flash is vital for browsing, you would not be able to watch anything on youtube without it......
@Ucsemis Flash is a dying technology, or should be.
I did not say an Office toolset was not vital, I was specifically saying that MS's software sucks and that the marketing goons at AMD where using crappy software as an example.
@Ucsemis Flash is not vital to browsing. Office is not vital to business. Office type software is vital, and something that does what Flash does is not vital but appreciated.
There are lots of softwares that do what flash and office both do. Hell, while MS is making 'Office 360' Google docs is free and available to anyone with half a brain.
As far as flash goes, do some searches for javascript games and prepare to be amazed.
Nothing in the world is so vital that it can't be improved/replaced.
@tantoedge yeah I know what javascript is, and what it does(I use them in my browser-based things to improve diffrent things(not cheating)), it's really amazing, and I've tried google docs 2, but it kinda sucks ,A LOT, I can't do almost anything on it except view documents from the internet
Office is still the best business program available by far, only that it's pricey as hell
@Ucsemis I didn't assume you didn't know what Javascript was, but a lot of folks don't realize that developers have made incredible strides in what can be accomplished using just everyday browser technology.
I admit Google Docs is far from ready to compete, but for rudimentary stuff it's a good enough typewriter.
Flash is not vital but it's not dying either. It isn't used solely in webdesign. Adobe's CS5 allows direct porting to various mobile platforms, so it'll be around quite a while yet.
Can you add Subtitles to this video please? I am rarely able to hear the video (even with headphones on) because of other stuff going on and people talking and stuff, and I never use Automatic Captions because they always screw up and display the wrong words.
APU's are mostly meant for Laptops and Netbooks. The only way I se these APU's working in a desktop environment is being used in those all-in-one systems and low-end desktops.
@lordfirefox High end gaming systems can use them too. GPGPU across the bus has high latency and can effect performance.. Some applications of GPGPU would require very low latency. A physics system for example, or 3D sound. The GPGPU uses are endless. A hybrid +1 on chip with the CPU.
They simply need to work on the developer support side to make it happen.
I noticed the APU mobos have a PCI-E slot if I have an APU installed & install a normal GPU on the PCI-E slot what happens? Dose it use both for graphics rendering? or just 1? if just 1 which one?
Also will we ever see a high end APU that would be in a similar league to say a HD6990 & a Quadcore/Hexcore CPU combined? I don't think the current APUs have enough power for the applications I run.
@nerbne For a Desktop system you wouldn't need an APU unless you were planning on just using it for a HTPC. Putting in a dedicated GPU in a system with an APU would disable the APU's Graphics capability and use only the dedicated GPU because there's no way in heck an on-board GPU, weather on the motherboard or APU, will keep up with a Dedicated GPU. Either that or the APU would just do trivial back-end functions which you would hardly notice.
@lordfirefox Apparently according to HEXUS at least if you put a HD 6570 or HD 6670 with a upcomming Llano APU it will be able to do hybrid crossfireX to get to get more proformace. I guess that means they can work togeather at least in a limited way.
@lordfirefox u obviously dont know alot about ati u can crossfire onboard graphics with dedicated gpus so basically it will disable the onboard for games and then reneable it for meaniale task to conserve energy and with this apu sicne the graphics on it are so high end you could possibly crossifre them for the game
i have a stupid question but ok 350 oc to 1.9ghz will that bottleneck lets say 5770/5850 ? does hybrid cf work with only 6000 series or 5000 ? Or phenom II x2-X3 2.8-3.6.ghz is better ? Sandy Bridge is too much money so i need an advice... 4290 is kinda ok with x6 but on x2-x3 it sucks 40sp....
Whenever the company is trusted and things look promising for the future, they fire one of the most competent people for their wild dreams of a big market share.
this is stupid... they will probably have such poor performance you wont be able to use the "gpu" for anything good just like computers with integrated chips and memory share
@navyseai GPUs are 10 times as powerful as CPUs, because realistic graphics need it. I'll trust the people with the money and experience on this one: watch?v=xPGHvzTspCM
@VCat2006 that may have been true when you posted your comment, but the a8 fusion processor, which is running @ ~$140, performs better than some discrete gfx cards. it certainly can be used to meet my gaming needs.
if this allow us to move more simpler parralell calculations to the intergrated gpu without whitout being hit by the pic-e bottelneck then this is just fantastic!!
this video does not explain stuff very well, does the software need to be programed to take advantage of this or does the cpu itself take care of everything? if we have dedicated cards will the one of the chip be disabled or can we use both, the dedicated for gaming and the chip for processing if it will go faster.
the fusion of the cpu and gpu is great but only for general computer users i certanly wouldn't buy this only because i know the apu couldn't handle extreme gaming and nether could the cpu portion.
It's maybe a little weird because a lot of users won't care/need/use what an APU can do, and if someone is into all that stuff they might want a lot more and to be able to upgrade and not be stuck with the graphics. But then again, what do I know.
Why does she say "datar"? I've noticed a lot of brits add an R to the end of some words but I have no idea why, it just sounds stupid and super annoyng! :/
@HazewinDog The graphics-relevant sections of the APU probably have their own clock generator, like Intel, so the clock of the CPU isn't necessarily an indication of the graphics capabilities. We also don't know how powerful that 1.6GHz AMD APU is. A 2GHz 6-core Opteron leaves a 3GHz Phenom II X2 in the dust because it's about 3 full generations newer, architecturally. Whose to say that the 1.6GHz Fusion can't do better than a 2.6GHz Athlon II, since AMD is finally ditching K10?
@pshalleck Corrections: Phenom II X6 and Athlon II X2, very misleading typos there! Also, confirmed that the AMD E-350 APU has a separate graphics clock of 500MHz. A Radeon HD 5550 has a clock of 550MHz.
@HazewinDog Really, I just wonder how NVIDIA will develop 16x performance Maxwell GPU which almost everyone says it was a typo mistake. Is GPU Engineering hard?
@pshalleck Really, I just wonder how NVIDIA will develop 16x performance Maxwell GPU which almost everyone says it was a typo mistake. Is GPU Engineering hard?
assisted processing unit come to mind but i was wrong amd +1 me +0 amd ftw :)... but amd has come to the terms since the glory days of the athlon 64 it has no chance of catching intel up but for bang for buck amd is allways the winner i will be useing a amd gpu and cpu for my next build ...
Who actually wants to use Internet Explorer 9? IE freaking sucks! It's true that it's much better than IE 6 and better than IE 7 and 8 but it's still lame.
Who actually wants to use Internet Explorer 9? IE freaking sucks! It's true that it's much better than IE 6 and better than IE 7 and 8 but it's still lame.
I know for certain that Intel(R) has already implemented this featured on their desktop with QPI and on the mobile processor with HD graphics and CPU on the same die.
If AMD can keep innovating the APU to be smaller and smaller, imagine the applications in smart phones? A phone as powerful as a laptop, now that would be worth a second look at the store.
@psychoclown420 Intel Sandy Bridge will have 4 cores. AMD Bulldozer will be on the 32nm process with 8 cores. Intel better make another 6 core or even 8 core CPU this year because i cannot wait until next year to get an 8 core or next gen six core CPU from Intel because I might just go with AMD since eight and next gen six cores is the way to go. Quad core is old lol.
What's the score with T-RAM. I'm guessing when AMD build 10 core die's they are either going to have to switch to 28nm processes or use T-RAM to save on die space.
It would be great if T-RAM really is as good as has be touted.
@FishNb0at I couldn't agree more my friend. My PC has AMD in it along with the Radeon and I get some pretty good HD videos out of my PC. Like rendering a 1080 HD video and running a high quality video game at the same time.
@legitcheckitcontrol I wanna se your mac fighting with my 6950 Crossfire graphics card, amd x6 CPU, everything in a thermaltake v3 black case watercooled.
Of course is overpriced, it sucks, and you will NEVER beat something that you made and something that you can customize every 6 seconds.
Plus, if you talk about stability, you are dumb, one thing is os other thing is hardware. Mac are exactly the same than Pcs with some tweaks in the architecture, in fact, you can install linux on your pc.
@legitcheckitcontrol way more stable, and more optimized for business and media then a PC is. my question is do you understand why many company uses mac instead of regular PC right ? is not because of stable or optimized lol. Do your research before posting such lame thing bro, oh btw dont forget use google lolol
No, i talk from my OWN experience, it IS more stable, it IS more optimized for business, because it's absolutely NOT optimized for gaming. If It was i wouldn't have a PC.
@legitcheckitcontrol okay so optimized for business sounds pretty good to me, but still you know why ? more reasons. oh about Google reliable resource i never said was, did i ?
@RATSHADY Just buy your 1090t, the APUs are for the low end for now. It'll be at least 2 generations before they can get even mid range graphics on them.
What the APUs will be useful for in high end boxes is for GPGPU tasks as a much faster FPU for things like the Havok physics engine and the possibility that you can switch off high end GPUs when you don't actually need them and just pass the video in off the IGP to save on power and heat.
Along laptops, would it compete well against integrated graphics like the Radeon 4200 chip or Intel 4500HD? Lenovo is already getting ready to put netbooks using APUs on their site for the starting price of 400$ and I could find this interesting. Users say that they should compete well against the Athlon mobile processors and even Intel duo's but how well are they among video/gaming performance to dedicated graphics like a 260m or 4650m?
@silenceyouidiot It sounds like they're skipping the HD5200 series IGPs since even the 890GX chipset only uses the HD4290 IGP.
So yeah, it'll beat the HD4200, which already beats the Intel X4500HD IGP. It should also be more then capable of beating the new Sandy Bridge IGPs. But no, I doubt it'll beat the HD4650 and be nowhere near the GTS260.
Acer, Lenovo and Toshiba have all announced AMD APU netbooks, Acer has even announced a tablet based around it.
@GTR717 probably so, but i really think the APU's will be for mobile computing where space is limited. like in shuttle computers, laptops, stuff like that. but it would be awesome if we get dual APU video cards. :)
The amount of uneducated opinions on these AMD videos are starting to bug me.
If you want to form an opinion on PC components, take a course in computer science, do some research on processor architecture and electronic engineering, and please stop acting as though this is Intel vs. AMD.
@decimat777 Integrated gpu are shit. it's a marketing gimmick from Intel. Every 6-months AMD & Intel come up with some b.s. name which is a cover up for: "sorry folks, no more real speed improvement"
@PhantomAct well integrated graphics are mainly designed for the business sector but still its really lame to call it something its not. simply put its just a cpu with an add on gpu core. probably hinders performance on some level because it uses the cpus cache. something to think about there as well as the ram. and we all now how the gma series from intel really crapped from that shared ram junk.
Nothing like reading comments from people who don't understand shit about computers.
Hiredguns23 1 week ago
so it's basically building a physical multi-core processor, with some of the cores designated for processing graphics?
well that's hardly a solution for gaming PCs.
since technology limits the amount of transistors you can put on a single die, this will perform better than a mid-range CPU + on-board GPU, but not even close to the power of a high-end CPU + high-end graphics card.
maybe it's for laptops since one chip usually takes less electricity than 2 chips, I don't know.
igortroy 3 weeks ago
@igortroy Price. The fact that you can get a quad-core processor that has better performance then even more expensive AMD CPUs AND you get a graphics card that can process DX 11 applications and is known to run Battlefield 3 with just the APU alone. Add a 6670, a very fast card for its price range, and wih the crossfire you can build a sub-$500 computer that can do basically anything.
l3E7Studios 4 days ago
@l3E7Studios wait, you can Crossfire an APU and a graphics card? now that is sweet!
I do think a good APU costs more than a good CPU, but less than CPU + graphics card for sure. so if what you say is true and I can make a Crossfire array with an APU and 1 6670, instead of two 6670's - that really is a good idea.
slightly less performance perhaps, but at roughly half the power consumption and 3/4 the price.
igortroy 4 days ago
@igortroy You don't need the extra graphics card. APUs are known to run Battlefield 3 on Medium settings at 720p at playable framerates. That alone is outstanding considering adding the cost of a CPU and GPU to make that happen. Add a 6670 and that performance doubles and in some cases triple. Add other components and you can potentially build a $500-$600 computer that can perform any game, and most of them at the highest settings. Now that is why they sold more than 30 million last year. :)
l3E7Studios 4 days ago
Is this basically like the sandy bridge chip set?
seroyer2 1 month ago
@seroyer2 Sandy bridge chip set? Er...no. Chipset and processors are two completely different things.
HippehMac 1 month ago in playlist AMD Fusion
@HippehMac I mean the Sandy Bridge processor, you can't get the integrated graphics with out the z68.
seroyer2 1 month ago
@seroyer2 Or H67. And that's only because that's what the chipset allows, the integrated graphics are still built into the processor. With these APUs the graphics portion is such a major selling point that i can't imagine any AMD chipset disabling the onboard graphics. I could be wrong...but it seems completely illogical to me.
HippehMac 1 month ago
What? I thought APU was the guy at Kwik e Mart!!!!!!!!!!!
tyu3456 2 months ago
My amd fusion e-300 is quite slow. It barely runs Portal on high. No way it could run anything newer on medium+. Skyrim wouldn't work on low.
Nikotiini69 2 months ago
@Nikotiini69 Still, for $30 that really says something. Especially since your APU is already two releases old.
Tyler11440 1 month ago in playlist AMD Fusion
so its like integrated GPU, but on the CPU chip?
Phenom69ll 2 months ago
@Phenom69ll Exactly! It's an integrated GPU on the CPU chipset = all in one that doesn't suck ass :D
xerodew 2 months ago
what is this? can i upgrade my current motherborad or do i have to buy a whole new mb for this
TheRogueMonk 3 months ago
@TheRogueMonk i this going ot help gaming noticably or not?
TheRogueMonk 3 months ago
@TheRogueMonk more prossesing power will help gaming if it can be used. this could even be a offload for GPU accelerated application. that means fast simple tasks such as "if A = 3 substract 1" many of thise small tasks uses up space in the CPU since it is designed to do more than just small tasks. using GPU accelerated functions is terrible by the design of motherboads.
skjimon 3 months ago in playlist AMD Fusion
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So what do you think about this Processor?
NightSord 4 months ago
APU = Armored Personnel Unit
dragoons9009 4 months ago
they say it eliminates bottleneck, but that's impossible? there will always be a bottleneck
LizzyAston 5 months ago in playlist AMD Newsroom Playlist
@LizzyAston They removed one bottleneck. There are multiple bottlenecks in computing.
JimmaWetcha 5 months ago
@JimmaWetcha duh that's exactly what I was saying
LizzyAston 5 months ago
I waited for these to come out, then bought an HP dm1z with an E-350 APU.
It even decodes 1080p. Hell, I'd love to see an Atom setup attempt that.
CopyrightPropaganda 5 months ago
@CopyrightPropaganda I set up an Atom D525 + Nvidia ION2 Nettop for my bro before AMD's APU was out. It does decode 1080P video, but it has two limitations: The GPU is connected via a PCI-E 1x lane only, and despite the ATOM CPU being 1.6GHz dual core, it is rather slow.
JimmaWetcha 5 months ago
Only 10 Easy payments of $999.99 Get yours today.
sTeevYx1 5 months ago
What does APU stand for?
Cschive 6 months ago
@Cschive APU = Accelerated Processing Unit its main you dont need a vga card the cpu can work for a gpu = Graphics Processing Unit . So in short why the cpu can work like a gpu and the call it a apu. if you dont want to have a vga card just for let say not the money or you dont need the extra cost. You buy a mainboard that have onboard vga chipset or output. And if you are planning for this look for the cpu with (apu abilitie) the gave you the extra power. Sorry bad english
TheVanGastel 5 months ago
@TheVanGastel saw a video where the A3850 was giving 20fps on Crysis 2 dx11 on 1080p rez so i guess APU still have a long way to go before replacing the traditional cpu+gpu
tarangkhaitan 5 months ago
@tarangkhaitan Yah offcourse its get you 20fps with crysis 2 why because of this. Let me try to explane it with my poor english. First you need to know that a vga card have more than only a gpu that drive a video card. Second the vga card have a on board anti aliasing/filtering chip that 200% speed up the texture frames. And thirth shader unit that (what all apu/cpu dont have) the "calculation" thats need to render the pixel. (commend 1)
TheVanGastel 5 months ago
@tarangkhaitan So in short if you turn off the shadows (or set low) and turn off the anti-aliasing/filter and mode the fps will increase like 100%. However if you increase the cpu speed and give (bios) more mhz/ghz to render(apu) that will increase the "calculations" thats need to render the pixel on your screen. The need indeed to "inprove it" but its the fist step. (commend 2)
TheVanGastel 5 months ago
Hahaha, I wonder if Intel will marry Nvidia LOL. APU will rule the market in the future. Mark my word.
Daputaka 7 months ago
intel and nvidia bias eh? They may have a bit more power, but i'll still be laughing from the money I saved with amd and radeon.
SilkyMuggs 7 months ago
--.-- I just bought an ASUS M4a88t-m/usb3 with an AMD Phenom II 3.2 GHZ dual core (Actually a Tri core because I unlocked it) and then the next day my friend tells me that he just heard about APU motherboards and stuff..... coulda saved 60 bucks or something but NOOOO -___-
DELLandProductions 7 months ago
intel and nvidia would destroy amd forever
shaqdchosen 7 months ago
@shaqdchosen AMD dont have shit on intel/Nvidia
FedoraFTW 7 months ago
@shaqdchosen you know Nvidia ha been the underdog for some time, and intel was a bit fucked" back in the day, do intel commes up again
Trillios 7 months ago
FUCK!!!!!!!!! i just found out about hexa-core an the new gpu's now fucking APU........
FORT KNOX HERE I COME !
MrPantinHCM 7 months ago
Instead of a british woman from the uk, I want a fourteen year old from atlanta to explain this.
tantoedge 7 months ago
Very nice video..explained everything simply and to the point. Very nice work AMD
ochalal3 8 months ago
Smart. Buy AMD.
ToLiveIsToDie20 8 months ago
"Apu" means "help" in finnish, and it is a great irony that AMD needs HELP!
SuperL473 8 months ago
@SuperL473 i think AMD doesn't need help its you who needs one... hahaha
lightningloader 8 months ago 20
Oh great, IE9 will suck faster... as will Adobe Flash and MS Office.
Why don't mention software's that aren't dying a slow and painful death?
SnakerDLK 8 months ago
@SnakerDLK ok, IE9 is crap but Office is vital for business and Flash is vital for browsing, you would not be able to watch anything on youtube without it......
Ucsemis 8 months ago
@Ucsemis Flash is a dying technology, or should be.
I did not say an Office toolset was not vital, I was specifically saying that MS's software sucks and that the marketing goons at AMD where using crappy software as an example.
SnakerDLK 8 months ago
@Ucsemis Flash is not vital to browsing. Office is not vital to business. Office type software is vital, and something that does what Flash does is not vital but appreciated.
There are lots of softwares that do what flash and office both do. Hell, while MS is making 'Office 360' Google docs is free and available to anyone with half a brain.
As far as flash goes, do some searches for javascript games and prepare to be amazed.
Nothing in the world is so vital that it can't be improved/replaced.
tantoedge 7 months ago
@tantoedge yeah I know what javascript is, and what it does(I use them in my browser-based things to improve diffrent things(not cheating)), it's really amazing, and I've tried google docs 2, but it kinda sucks ,A LOT, I can't do almost anything on it except view documents from the internet
Office is still the best business program available by far, only that it's pricey as hell
Ucsemis 7 months ago
@Ucsemis I didn't assume you didn't know what Javascript was, but a lot of folks don't realize that developers have made incredible strides in what can be accomplished using just everyday browser technology.
I admit Google Docs is far from ready to compete, but for rudimentary stuff it's a good enough typewriter.
Flash is not vital but it's not dying either. It isn't used solely in webdesign. Adobe's CS5 allows direct porting to various mobile platforms, so it'll be around quite a while yet.
tantoedge 7 months ago
Can you add Subtitles to this video please? I am rarely able to hear the video (even with headphones on) because of other stuff going on and people talking and stuff, and I never use Automatic Captions because they always screw up and display the wrong words.
Amaroqdricaldari 9 months ago
Anybody running a low end system at home on one of these? How are you finding it?
111olbap 9 months ago
@111olbap search it up on google.
p1oooop 9 months ago
@111olbap : i have a slower amd x2 and i want to throw it of the window.
even my better intel system has problems...
saronsrl 9 months ago
APU's are mostly meant for Laptops and Netbooks. The only way I se these APU's working in a desktop environment is being used in those all-in-one systems and low-end desktops.
lordfirefox 10 months ago
@lordfirefox High end gaming systems can use them too. GPGPU across the bus has high latency and can effect performance.. Some applications of GPGPU would require very low latency. A physics system for example, or 3D sound. The GPGPU uses are endless. A hybrid +1 on chip with the CPU.
They simply need to work on the developer support side to make it happen.
abram730 9 months ago
I noticed the APU mobos have a PCI-E slot if I have an APU installed & install a normal GPU on the PCI-E slot what happens? Dose it use both for graphics rendering? or just 1? if just 1 which one?
Also will we ever see a high end APU that would be in a similar league to say a HD6990 & a Quadcore/Hexcore CPU combined? I don't think the current APUs have enough power for the applications I run.
nerbne 11 months ago
@nerbne For a Desktop system you wouldn't need an APU unless you were planning on just using it for a HTPC. Putting in a dedicated GPU in a system with an APU would disable the APU's Graphics capability and use only the dedicated GPU because there's no way in heck an on-board GPU, weather on the motherboard or APU, will keep up with a Dedicated GPU. Either that or the APU would just do trivial back-end functions which you would hardly notice.
lordfirefox 10 months ago
@lordfirefox Apparently according to HEXUS at least if you put a HD 6570 or HD 6670 with a upcomming Llano APU it will be able to do hybrid crossfireX to get to get more proformace. I guess that means they can work togeather at least in a limited way.
nerbne 10 months ago
@lordfirefox Look up what NVIDIA is doing with GPGPU.. look at APEX cloth and their hair demo.
watch?v=mrtwESnTOwY
AMD could push the same uses for their APU in relation to games.
PCIE is a high bandwidth connection, but with it comes latency.
PCIE is a barrier to overcome by creating mirroring assets on both sides of the divide.
abram730 9 months ago
@lordfirefox u obviously dont know alot about ati u can crossfire onboard graphics with dedicated gpus so basically it will disable the onboard for games and then reneable it for meaniale task to conserve energy and with this apu sicne the graphics on it are so high end you could possibly crossifre them for the game
Maegus2 6 months ago
*Sigh* I can't wait for Quantum Computing to be fully realized, it will leave all of this in the dust.
MrTenshihanQuinn 11 months ago
i didn't see Apu here. You liar!
HLM190586 11 months ago
this is making AMD to the next level, and happy see it coming oh yeah the fight is about to start
87655788 11 months ago
just skip the shiny diagrams and show us some benchmarks lol XD
MouthofSaurons 11 months ago
OH SHIT INCREASED PERFORMANCE IN IE9!?!? DAMN SON IM SOLD.!
Ub3rSk1llz 1 year ago
@Ub3rSk1llz Every browser that uses HTML5 will see a performance increase not just IE9.
lordfirefox 10 months ago
They couldn't have picked a worse voice to narrate this video.
ThePunisherNWO 1 year ago
does tyhte athloniix4 640 has apu?
omegadavid99 1 year ago
the voice is just so annoying
T3hRipPeRr 1 year ago
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i have a stupid question but ok 350 oc to 1.9ghz will that bottleneck lets say 5770/5850 ? does hybrid cf work with only 6000 series or 5000 ? Or phenom II x2-X3 2.8-3.6.ghz is better ? Sandy Bridge is too much money so i need an advice... 4290 is kinda ok with x6 but on x2-x3 it sucks 40sp....
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pajo50 1 year ago
When will DELL have em?!?!
lonemilkman 1 year ago
@lonemilkman Yeah dell sucks.
jhtrico1850 1 year ago
@redalertgamer18 I well aware of it :XD it is just that it always hit me when I see these videos
asusp3v4x 1 year ago
One of the classics of the AMD Board.
Whenever the company is trusted and things look promising for the future, they fire one of the most competent people for their wild dreams of a big market share.
Sorry AMD, you just fired your best man!
NedFlanders1976 1 year ago
@NedFlanders1976
You would think that the board of directors just got back from stupid town.
ThePunisherNWO 1 year ago
this is stupid... they will probably have such poor performance you wont be able to use the "gpu" for anything good just like computers with integrated chips and memory share
navyseai 1 year ago
@navyseai GPUs are 10 times as powerful as CPUs, because realistic graphics need it. I'll trust the people with the money and experience on this one: watch?v=xPGHvzTspCM
VCat2006 1 year ago
@VCat2006 thanks for the video, not bad, but still a little rusty :\
navyseai 1 year ago
@navyseai Rusty?
VCat2006 1 year ago
@VCat2006 yea looks like its dragging... low fps rate
navyseai 1 year ago
@navyseai I don't notice in this video, but an L4D2 horde runs at 12 FPS according to hubpages(.)com/hub/Laptops-Review-Fusion-Chip-Processor
AMD's Fusion was made to beat Intel's Atom; IE9 runs 25 times faster on a Fusion APU.
VCat2006 1 year ago
@VCat2006 that may have been true when you posted your comment, but the a8 fusion processor, which is running @ ~$140, performs better than some discrete gfx cards. it certainly can be used to meet my gaming needs.
vortical911 8 months ago
WOW this is so cool, Now we have the APU!
abaj006 1 year ago
if this allow us to move more simpler parralell calculations to the intergrated gpu without whitout being hit by the pic-e bottelneck then this is just fantastic!!
Jumbomasters 1 year ago
this video does not explain stuff very well, does the software need to be programed to take advantage of this or does the cpu itself take care of everything? if we have dedicated cards will the one of the chip be disabled or can we use both, the dedicated for gaming and the chip for processing if it will go faster.
ctoon6 1 year ago
as long as the Linux drivers for video work like NVIDIA's do I'm happy.
usacomputertec 1 year ago
@usacomputertec linux is shit.. nuff said
xlPaRaNoiD 1 year ago
the fusion of the cpu and gpu is great but only for general computer users i certanly wouldn't buy this only because i know the apu couldn't handle extreme gaming and nether could the cpu portion.
ps3universal 1 year ago
@ps3universal
It's maybe a little weird because a lot of users won't care/need/use what an APU can do, and if someone is into all that stuff they might want a lot more and to be able to upgrade and not be stuck with the graphics. But then again, what do I know.
Usul573 1 year ago
I would like to see tablets using AMD APUs.
VTWHK 1 year ago
Long live AMD
Extremely20 1 year ago
APU= Arithmetic Processing Unit?
JJAstley 1 year ago
just great.... so once again I am stuck with old technology XD
asusp3v4x 1 year ago
Im so freaking happy that this has now come to light. pcs will work so much better,faster and with less power being used.
Great job AMD and keep on the cutting edge of everthing. Whats next from AMD? we may never know lol.
now to save up for a laptop that has kick ass specs.. and that can run Crysis at 69fps. lol
warlordfmike 1 year ago
Im so freaking happy that this has now come to light. pcs will work so much better,faster and with less power being used.
Great job AMD and keep on the cutting edge of everthing. Whats next from AMD? we may never know lol.
now to save up for a laptop that has kick ass specs.. and that can run Crysis at 69fps. lol
warlordfmike 1 year ago
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Why does she say "datar"? I've noticed a lot of brits add an R to the end of some words but I have no idea why, it just sounds stupid and super annoyng! :/
phukkitt 1 year ago
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HazewinDog 1 year ago
@phukkitt ops sorry wasnt meant for you
HazewinDog 1 year ago
Looks like we will be having very small pc's
redblade123hj 1 year ago
AMD FTW! :D
jhdezjr 1 year ago
Okay, so then why introduce ATI MOBILTY 6000M GPUs
patilnikh 1 year ago
@patilnikh Because APU's arent very powerful yet. The best one i saw so far was a 1,6GHz dualcore.
HazewinDog 1 year ago
@HazewinDog The graphics-relevant sections of the APU probably have their own clock generator, like Intel, so the clock of the CPU isn't necessarily an indication of the graphics capabilities. We also don't know how powerful that 1.6GHz AMD APU is. A 2GHz 6-core Opteron leaves a 3GHz Phenom II X2 in the dust because it's about 3 full generations newer, architecturally. Whose to say that the 1.6GHz Fusion can't do better than a 2.6GHz Athlon II, since AMD is finally ditching K10?
pshalleck 1 year ago
@pshalleck Ok, i get your drift :)
HazewinDog 1 year ago
@pshalleck Corrections: Phenom II X6 and Athlon II X2, very misleading typos there! Also, confirmed that the AMD E-350 APU has a separate graphics clock of 500MHz. A Radeon HD 5550 has a clock of 550MHz.
pshalleck 1 year ago
@HazewinDog Really, I just wonder how NVIDIA will develop 16x performance Maxwell GPU which almost everyone says it was a typo mistake. Is GPU Engineering hard?
patilnikh 1 year ago
@patilnikh I havent heard about that. Even though i follow nvidia on facebook.
HazewinDog 1 year ago
@HazewinDog THE GPU conference, google NVIDIA MAXWELL semiaccurate
patilnikh 1 year ago
@patilnikh oh and ye i dont really have an idea about the 'gpu' part of the apu's, but i dont expect to much of it yet.
HazewinDog 1 year ago
@patilnikh HP sells an i5 laptop that uses the Mobility Radeon 6370. There will also be high-performance 6500M to 6900M level graphics.
pshalleck 1 year ago
@pshalleck Really, I just wonder how NVIDIA will develop 16x performance Maxwell GPU which almost everyone says it was a typo mistake. Is GPU Engineering hard?
patilnikh 1 year ago
assisted processing unit come to mind but i was wrong amd +1 me +0 amd ftw :)... but amd has come to the terms since the glory days of the athlon 64 it has no chance of catching intel up but for bang for buck amd is allways the winner i will be useing a amd gpu and cpu for my next build ...
aschris87 1 year ago
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Who actually wants to use Internet Explorer 9? IE freaking sucks! It's true that it's much better than IE 6 and better than IE 7 and 8 but it's still lame.
KuruGDI 1 year ago
Who actually wants to use Internet Explorer 9? IE freaking sucks! It's true that it's much better than IE 6 and better than IE 7 and 8 but it's still lame.
KuruGDI 1 year ago
pauer!! :)
hiphopfreaks 1 year ago
I know for certain that Intel(R) has already implemented this featured on their desktop with QPI and on the mobile processor with HD graphics and CPU on the same die.
1AppleMaker 1 year ago
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sonofliberty08 1 year ago
@sonofliberty08 from the graph thats what it looks like AMD is doing to.
thelasthallow 1 year ago
Thats awesome!
DarylWashingtonV4 1 year ago
Its finally coming, great work AMD
dylf14 1 year ago
Accelerated Processing Unit = System On Chip?
LOLitsJono 1 year ago
@LOLitsJono Advanced Processing Unit
savagemessiah82 1 year ago
@savagemessiah82
Awesome Processing Unit :D
sonofliberty08 1 year ago
@LOLitsJono
No, it doesn't have memory or storage on it.
If they add memory and storage, then it will be a system on a chip...
VIA already produces such a chip.
TheAdarkon 1 year ago
lol she says dater... instead of data :-)
snowman4839 1 year ago
If AMD can keep innovating the APU to be smaller and smaller, imagine the applications in smart phones? A phone as powerful as a laptop, now that would be worth a second look at the store.
spacefannumber1 1 year ago
@spacefannumber1 Next year, ARM Cortex A15 will be a 2.5Ghz quad inside the same power envelope as current cellphone CPUs.
DrBeardo 1 year ago
looks like useless laptop stuff
staticxmako 1 year ago
Bulldozer is going to DOMINATE Sandybridge!!!
sandiegoborn32 1 year ago
this chip is a perfect denouement for my new notebook
StevensiTX 1 year ago
sanydbridge looks amazing, but i think bulldozer will keep up just fine :D
psychoclown420 1 year ago
@psychoclown420 Intel Sandy Bridge will have 4 cores. AMD Bulldozer will be on the 32nm process with 8 cores. Intel better make another 6 core or even 8 core CPU this year because i cannot wait until next year to get an 8 core or next gen six core CPU from Intel because I might just go with AMD since eight and next gen six cores is the way to go. Quad core is old lol.
MikerGTX 1 year ago
@MikerGTX Im still using my single core Pentium 4 lol
bg048 1 year ago
apu is the future
TimeBreaker1987 1 year ago
alabad
edgeplustv 1 year ago
Can't wait until I get my AMD Fusion netbook, so excited! :D
yourma2000 1 year ago
so i heard viewer 302 had and APU that totally kicks ass
Gundam00Raiser75 1 year ago
What's the score with T-RAM. I'm guessing when AMD build 10 core die's they are either going to have to switch to 28nm processes or use T-RAM to save on die space.
It would be great if T-RAM really is as good as has be touted.
QPWimblik 1 year ago
I need a video of gameplay soo I will be able to understand its power concept when will they upload a video using fusion tech
pivan23 1 year ago
Mac will no longer have the power of graphic processing! AMD will take the PC world by storm! Long live AMD and the PC!
LegoKid92 1 year ago
@LegoKid92 LOL Mac never had the power of graphic processing, PC was and always will be better than a over priced Mac
FishNb0at 1 year ago 31
@FishNb0at I couldn't agree more my friend. My PC has AMD in it along with the Radeon and I get some pretty good HD videos out of my PC. Like rendering a 1080 HD video and running a high quality video game at the same time.
LegoKid92 1 year ago
@FishNb0at
You don't know what you're talking about. I've got both a PC and a Mac, and I like both.
The thing with a Mac is that it is way more stable, and is more optimized for business and media then a PC is.
I'm talking from experience, and I'm not a fanboy.
Media processing is what a Mac is built for, so yes, buy the right one for your business and it will be the best.
And if you think of everything u get with a Mac you wouldn't say it was overpriced.
LOL @ Mac/PC fights...
legitcheckitcontrol 1 year ago
@legitcheckitcontrol I wanna se your mac fighting with my 6950 Crossfire graphics card, amd x6 CPU, everything in a thermaltake v3 black case watercooled.
Of course is overpriced, it sucks, and you will NEVER beat something that you made and something that you can customize every 6 seconds.
Plus, if you talk about stability, you are dumb, one thing is os other thing is hardware. Mac are exactly the same than Pcs with some tweaks in the architecture, in fact, you can install linux on your pc.
MrSaggat 11 months ago 45
@MrSaggat Mac is UNIX. Not LInux.
111olbap 9 months ago
@111olbap Linux is based on unix, mac too.
MrSaggat 9 months ago
@111olbap isn't it a hybrid between UNIX and BSD?
p1oooop 9 months ago
@MrSaggat Well the Mac is overpriced, however IT IS more stable, but that's bacause it's customized for a very limited range of hardware. :-)
Xaeleep 4 months ago
@legitcheckitcontrol way more stable, and more optimized for business and media then a PC is. my question is do you understand why many company uses mac instead of regular PC right ? is not because of stable or optimized lol. Do your research before posting such lame thing bro, oh btw dont forget use google lolol
87655788 11 months ago
@87655788
So Google is a reliable resource?
No, i talk from my OWN experience, it IS more stable, it IS more optimized for business, because it's absolutely NOT optimized for gaming. If It was i wouldn't have a PC.
legitcheckitcontrol 10 months ago
@legitcheckitcontrol okay so optimized for business sounds pretty good to me, but still you know why ? more reasons. oh about Google reliable resource i never said was, did i ?
87655788 10 months ago
@legitcheckitcontrol you my friend are a retard. Mac's are overpriced as fuck and they come with really shitty parts. 2.0GHz quad-core
Intel Core i7
4GB 1333MHz
500GB 5400-rpm1
Intel HD Graphics 3000
AMD Radeon HD 6490M with 256MB GDDR5
i dont see 1800 dollars can be justified with those shitty components
gmrexford 6 months ago
inb4 Apple poorly copies it and calls it the "Super Fast Shiny Magical It Just Works Devices"
Ditherliss 1 year ago 3
will they be making a desktop APU?
pivan23 1 year ago
they have removed the hypertransport? soo hyper transport ends at 3.1?
pivan23 1 year ago
Please amd show the APU in action before I buy the 1090t.
RATSHADY 1 year ago
@RATSHADY Just buy your 1090t, the APUs are for the low end for now. It'll be at least 2 generations before they can get even mid range graphics on them.
What the APUs will be useful for in high end boxes is for GPGPU tasks as a much faster FPU for things like the Havok physics engine and the possibility that you can switch off high end GPUs when you don't actually need them and just pass the video in off the IGP to save on power and heat.
DrBeardo 1 year ago
@DrBeardo
Along laptops, would it compete well against integrated graphics like the Radeon 4200 chip or Intel 4500HD? Lenovo is already getting ready to put netbooks using APUs on their site for the starting price of 400$ and I could find this interesting. Users say that they should compete well against the Athlon mobile processors and even Intel duo's but how well are they among video/gaming performance to dedicated graphics like a 260m or 4650m?
silenceyouidiot 1 year ago
@silenceyouidiot It sounds like they're skipping the HD5200 series IGPs since even the 890GX chipset only uses the HD4290 IGP.
So yeah, it'll beat the HD4200, which already beats the Intel X4500HD IGP. It should also be more then capable of beating the new Sandy Bridge IGPs. But no, I doubt it'll beat the HD4650 and be nowhere near the GTS260.
Acer, Lenovo and Toshiba have all announced AMD APU netbooks, Acer has even announced a tablet based around it.
DrBeardo 1 year ago
can you put this in a am3 socket?
GTR717 1 year ago
@GTR717 probably so, but i really think the APU's will be for mobile computing where space is limited. like in shuttle computers, laptops, stuff like that. but it would be awesome if we get dual APU video cards. :)
chrisfur2 1 year ago
The amount of uneducated opinions on these AMD videos are starting to bug me.
If you want to form an opinion on PC components, take a course in computer science, do some research on processor architecture and electronic engineering, and please stop acting as though this is Intel vs. AMD.
BrixXSM 1 year ago
What's hyper transport?
WindowsVideoArchive 1 year ago
@WindowsVideoArchive i think its basically the amount of bandwidth the cpu is able to support or transfer.
chrisfur2 1 year ago
this will be perfect for netbooks
KlingonSpider 1 year ago
They should of got Chuck Norris to narrate this...
KlingonSpider 1 year ago 13
Apu from the Simpsons? thank you, come again! I thought it was Arithmetic Processing Unit, calling it anything else is a mockery.
PhantomAct 1 year ago 14
i know accelerated processing unit is just dumb... why cant it just be a cpu with an integrated gpu like intels....?
decimat777 1 year ago
@decimat777 Integrated gpu are shit. it's a marketing gimmick from Intel. Every 6-months AMD & Intel come up with some b.s. name which is a cover up for: "sorry folks, no more real speed improvement"
PhantomAct 1 year ago
@PhantomAct well integrated graphics are mainly designed for the business sector but still its really lame to call it something its not. simply put its just a cpu with an add on gpu core. probably hinders performance on some level because it uses the cpus cache. something to think about there as well as the ram. and we all now how the gma series from intel really crapped from that shared ram junk.
decimat777 1 year ago
@PhantomAct
no more real speed improvement?
what?
Usul573 1 year ago