Gears of War Lessons - Episode #6 - GoW3 Beta PAX Vids Analysis

[AutoPsychotic]

You are officially the first person I've heard make an accurate prediction about the Sawed-Off shotgun. It really does require 0 skill at all to use, and is the source of the majority of all raging by skilled to advanced players during the beta.

[AutoPsychotic]

@peteyying Mantle kick is the new two-piece, though.

[FFAxFeared]

@peteyying OMG I know right, it's the fucking gayest thing ever! They just rush you and team shot you with shotguns. I hate GoW but it can be really fun if people play with actual skill.

[FFAxFeared]

@peteyying Yeah, but people are still Gnasher whores. Everyone on the opposing team always fucking uses it! It just really should even be in the game, or it should be degraded a bit.

[Dood1494]

@imAkEjoKeZ5297 I agree that 2-piecing isn't a great game mechanic for this type of shooter (plus the fact that I never truly utilized it myself), but there will still be ways for players to stun and shoot, such as the stun from the smokes that is minor, but present, in Gears 3

[OriginalYTName]

I bet this will go in between GoW2 and GoW1 in terms of reception from the community, GoW1 being the better reception ofc.

[UrT1meSlipsAway]

I wouldn't say the Double barrel take "no skill" yes you can one shot people but you need great timing and great manuvers to get close enough to use it, ill trade it off depending on the map

[gamerx112]

I believe I heard from a friend that the community on the forums discussed about the gnasher range so that epic games could tone it down.

[MegaD3lta]

@imAkEjoKeZ5297 Yeah, I miss it but I'm still amazing at Gears 1 and 2 with and without and I will be amazing at Gears 3 without two-piecing

[MegaD3lta]

@imAkEjoKeZ5297 Actually I'm a beast at Gears 1 and 2

[hunt3rxwl]

Encouraging people sitting behind walls all day... I said that when they announced the dbs and my opinion hasn't changed..

[HeyCoRT]

Nice!.. The new maps look great. And I agree with Mercy/War Machine comparison.

[ChiTownOnDeck]

The new maps look good....i guess but i hope epic includes class,ic maps from gears 1 and 2. Maps like war machine, gridiron, fuel depot, etc. They probably wont....O well

[gamerx112]

also My only concern is the gnasher like you've shown here.

Range definately needs some work and as far as the double barrel goes, I wouldnt worry, unless they are close to you then it wont kill you, mabye damage you alot but not kill.

[gamerx112]

I for one like open maps with close to no cover, keeps you running around for awhile but at the same time easy to find others.

for once there might not be shotgun battles and variety might actually make its way.

[arCtiCvBi]

@peteyying yeah that's probably one of the biggest changes that has me antsy to test for myself

[exevah]

why would you predict something and then say WE WILL SEE... it has no value as a commentary

[Skyllus]

@exevah Sure it does, it is harmless speculation. Just a guess at the future and we will see if that is correct.

[hophen100]

Just curious i do play gears but wats a Plancer? is it retro lancer or sumthing?

[surfnsantacruz]

@hophen100

yes.

Plancer is short for Pendulum Lancer which is the Lancer used during the Pendulum Wars. Its also called the Retro Lancer.

[MLGjack3d]

them mercy stairs could play out like the gridlock steps with each team having an option of rushing and rolling in.

[CrankyTrashcan]

I think gears should make a map from the vietnam war. if you played bad company 2 vienam, they should make an environment like the map hill 137 and make it one of those maps you get killed by environment. Maybe add some camouflaged trap-holes as the environmental kill in random spots though

[KevinStCool]

I'm definitely not excited about the Double Barrel Shotgun either.

[ExcelxSupport]

i hope after the beta they remove the tu6 shotty. dose anyone know if the smoke is going to be ragdoll?

[Skyllus]

@ExcelxSupport It's a cringe.

[gipson46]

@ExcelxSupport no your just gonna cover your head

[bobbyrice7]

I can't comment too much on the maps, because I havn't looked at them in detail enough, but I have a feeling that thrasball is going to turn out good. The retro lancer is going to get toned down. All it is going to take is two people using it to make someone go nuts.And it looks stronger then the host TU6 lancer. As far as the shotgun, I've had mix feelings about it. For the most part it looks ridiculously strong. But I still want to wait and try it out for myself. Overall great review

[parcour101]

Should rename it to "Gears of War 3 Lessons - Episode #1 - GoW3 Beta PAX Vids Analysis

[CoatedTrout]

Mercy looks like it'd play more like gridlock than war machine, what with the lancering on the stairs and all.

[subzerox2324]

I don't understand the pickup delay, it just defeats the point of fighting over a power weapon if you can't pick it up before you get downed.

[LordTaoTang]

@subzerox2324 No actually it makes the game less annoying, to where you have to actually fight for it instead of just grabbing it and running off. And if you kill the other people trying to get it, then guess what you get the power weapon!

[MrJustSean]

@subzerox2324 its about strategy and team work, youve got to rely on your team-mates to provide good enough covering fire for you to get the power wepon, and once you have it, if you use it right then its a game win for you.

[kassidy69]

mercy is more like gridlock instead of war machine

[marktoe]

Did they really get rid of the melee stun? I could have sworn that I saw a guy get stunned from the melee, are you sure?

[Skyllus]

@marktoe Went back and watched a few more vids. There is a stun but it is really really fast. Shouldn't be any two-piecing of old.

[Sh4DoWN1GhTM4R3]

this game looks shit like gow 2 good bye gears of war

[ShadowIBlade]

lmao, the overhead view of thrashball looks like a dick

[TheBroz]

@Megamikeypikey Yes, stopping power is still present. Which is good.

[iRavenTM]

2:50 lancering at the steps? Yay gridlock all voer agian lol.

[iRavenTM]

Gears 3 shotgun combat will be just like gow 1 again. Speed is up, range is lower. Happy time. it all comes down to the maps now.

[NYBEAST360]

This game is gonna piss me off already I can tell just by how the shotgun makes no sense what so ever. Sigh

[NYBEAST360]

This gameis gonna piss me off already I can tell just by how the shotgun makes no sense what so ever. Sigh

[blackmacrokid]

I think as long as you have enough room to wallbounce through doors and hallways it's ok.

[TheWolfDogMoon]

I'll have a check list of stuff I want to test out in the Beta. And then will share my thoughts with the Beta Questionnaire.

[TheWolfDogMoon]

Trashball reminds me of Old Bones. In terms of layout.

[TheWolfDogMoon]

not excited about Mercy. It has the best name, but to me is the least exciting map. Old Town, Trenches, and Trashball Arena look the best, and most Gears like in feel. I liked how the movement speed is back from Gears 1. Very encouraging vids. I have the beta code, so can't wait to play.

[InfuZedShaDoWz]

Game looks great except for shotty range, I think they need to tone it down a bit.

[arCtiCvBi]

@InfuZedShaDoWz yeah I wasn't too happy to see the tu6 shotty range, it's interesting that epic hasn't found a solid damage output/range after this long

[BloodyAnimator]

@arCtiCvBi Well I think we the community when we get to test it will find that out. Also this could be a oldish build before the beta or aka pre beta. But remember as a community we get the chance to change this and we still have to September to just change that LITTLE thing.

[nelynel12]

@InfuZedShaDoWz dey fixed it tough

[AIFRANCHISE1]

Wow the map overlook for thrashball looks like a penis...just figured i needed to point that out.

[PuRRi4]

One question from Italy Artic. The gnasher remember GoW1 or GoW2?

[D0ughboythegreat]

yeaa skyluss

[MilFluVR16]

Looks so cool way better than gow 2 reminds me of gow1 :)

[IShwazZeRI]

I think Mercy is not in the beta. Because four maps were in the Gears 3 facebook vote: Mercy, Overpass, Trenches, and Oldtown. Epic said two maps will make to the beta out of the four. Trenches and Oldtown made it. But Mercy and Overpass have lost the vote but will be in the full game. Just a sidenote. ;)

[Chenstrapftw]

Game looks bad ass. Looks like i need t buy a harddrive in the next couple weeks.

[kineticGOW2]

Is it still possible to plant grenades?

[Skyllus]

@kineticGOW2 I believe so, but I haven't seen it in any of the videos.

[kineticGOW2]

@Skyllus yeah, same here. thank you.

[arCtiCvBi]

Dude that PLancer execution was nasty.

[sammanu13]

Dont like the look of it : / More delays and cheaper tactics. Hmmm Ill have to see how it pans out on the beta

[skullsRS]

Well since the stun-smoke is back i would guess it will be some kind of smoke/rush war on top. As u can see on top on mercy there is like some "L" covers. Is a plyer gets to the opponents "L" cover it will be very easy to hold.

[sammanu13]

Longshot on the top, Longshot charges and locks on. Looks OP.

[MrStottyy]

@sammanu13  u mean 1shot

[sammanu13]

@MrStottyy Yeh my bad/

[InsaneAssault11]

Actually I think I saw a One-Shot on top of Mercy in a Gameplay vid from way back before map names were even announced.

[arCtiCvBi]

@InsaneAssault11 Really? That would be a nice fit I guess (if it isn't absurdly strong). Didn't see that gun at all during the PAX vids though.

[Joshy375]

@arCtiCvBi Hes right theres a One Shot and a Motar on top of Mercy they switch each round

[SkateHack1]

@arCtiCvBi yeah, i know the footage he's talking about, its about a minute long, it was called something like Beta B-roll footage and it was footage from epic games.

[xMumBleZx]

@arCtiCvBi i think they added a bloom affect to the sniper but i'm not positive

[BrandNewBriefcase]

@arCtiCvBi I remember seeing that as well. It did seem kind of strong. It has a lock on functionality, (you have to hover over your target for a couple seconds,) and kills, as the name suggests, in one shot.

I'm kind of concerned with the weapon balancing for Gears 3... Also, I'm not sure if I really approve of the added mobility, I prefer the more tactical approach that Gears 2 implemented, mostly because I always play with and co-ordinate with my friends.

Oh well, still excited for the beta!

[LordTaoTang]

@BrandNewBriefcase Im fine with it being faster, Only concern of me is of course, The Shotgun

I don't want another shotty fest, I want the word flank to actually be used instead of just everyone running off grabbing boom shots and getting into Shotgun fights

[BrandNewBriefcase]

@LordTaoTang That's precisely what added mobility will promote, though. That's why I'm a little disappointed. It seems they're trying to make it more like Gears 1 again...

[LordTaoTang]

@BrandNewBriefcase Yes but they are also making it so people that want to use their Lancers actually can, I've seen the Retro Lancer destroy shotguns up close and the Lancer and Hammer burst work nicely from Mid and Long range. It seems pretty balanced but we'll find out in the beta. I think its a good thing that it will be a bit more fast paced.

[BrendyBoy]

@arCtiCvBi The one-shot is in top of Mercy, and another map. Mercy didn't make it into the beta, but one of the maps that did does have a one shot, so we will see if it's overpowered.

[MegaD3lta]

@arCtiCvBi I'm really angry two-pieceing is gone :(

[UrT1meSlipsAway]

@arCtiCvBi Its not going to be in the beta, it will eventually be in the final game, i guess theyre just tweeking it

[xTheOmegaX]

@InsaneAssault11 Yea its where Anya oneshots that locust.

[INxURxHEAD]

@InsaneAssault11 yea its where that circle is around the top. it rotates One-Shot/Mortar