Winnipeg, Manitoba still has Eagle Signal electro-mechanical relays for intersections in residential areas. You can view a YouTube video of this by entering:
Winnipeg Traffic Signals in the Search window. Vancouver, B.C. had this type of control until 1985. I once saw a police constable walk up to an old control box of non-functioning signals, give it a kick with his boot and immediately everything started working again!
I just came back from Montreal, and they still have these mechanical control boxes in Downtown. Almost every intersection I saw (or heard I guess) (except for one) had a mechanical box.
I've been a traffic signal collector since 1999 (I own one 8-8-8 signal and 3 12-12-12" signals from the 60s). My controllers are the older NEMA TS1 series, but nothing in my book beats that "curr-chunk" sound the electro-mechanical make, or even when the relays clicked that 60 bpm for late night flash mode. There was even a time when there was no all red clearance interval (meaning all lights are red for a predetermined time before someone gets a green light). VERY COOL VIDEO!!!
Is there anything that is more up to date? I'm doing a technical presentation on traffic signals. Or if you know where I can find information from credible sources that would be great.
Even though there are many advantages about computerized controllers, I prefer traditional controllers. The reason I say this is because I like controllers that are nice and simple. It is clearly obvious that computerized controllers are capable of performing numerous functions, which is amazing. Although, I still prefer traditional controllers. I guess you could say that I am slighly old fashioned. Anyhow, excellent video!
I still see the old-style mechanical controls at some suburban/rural intersections that have lower traffic volumes. I suppose the traffic in these intersections is predictable enough that the newer computerized controls aren't needed.
how can something preforming such simple task be so COMPLICATED? lol, its not exactly efficiant when they have to make millions of these traffic lights.
New York City still uses mechanical controllers and the synchronization is better than 99.9% of the computerized controllers I've seen. Plus there is something magical about that 'ka-chunk' sound.
@acmeschool look at the computers dumping paper into garbage containers. anyway, I wish these traffic lights did red, red/yellow, green, yellow as seen in europe. gives drivers a little warning that the light is aboot to change to green. no more flooring it at intersections when it suddenly changes
Awesome video...mechanicals are neat but my knowledge is in the computerized systems.
But...
I want to see the blooper reel to this video! I'm sure there's quite a bit of "electrical pokes" pulling the cycle unit and cam drum out of the cabinet while it's live.
I didn't get any shocks or burns or cuts for the entire 26 Acme half hours! I see that I was running this thing on 120 volts (it has the correct bulbs), but it would have been totally isolated power via an isolation transformer.
I made a lot of use of the RV 12 bulb that looks like a regular one, so that I could run open-wiring circuits at safe voltages.
Well thats good! Glad you played it safe. I didn't realize there was an isolation transformer. I'm not as "in-tune" with the old mechanical controllers. Cool video nonetheless!
Even now in 2010, you'll find old mechanical boxes in certain places in the united states. My first school still uses them for the school speed limit sign and in the winter, they would freeze and stop flashing.
That video is from around 1990... I can't really remember. They were a nice new pair that I borrowed from the contractor who takes care of the signals here in Toronto.
I was about to say that this is really old tech. Most of the stuff in my town has digital units in the box, at the busier intersections. The old intersections still go click like usual though.
In Toronto, almost every signal has metal-detector loops under the street, and is in communication with a central computer. The intersections all have pedestrian pushbuttons as well, in case someone wants to cross when there is no traffic sitting on the detectors.
I don't see what you're seeing, but I never noticed that car going through the red light before! At the time, that was one of Toronto's most complex intersections, with the two cross streets being offset by a hundred feet or so.
What I meant is, the second from the left signal changes from green to yellow to red but then the two bottom lights turn on. They look like polarized lights. Why did the signal perform that function?
OK, I see it now. I had to go to full-screen and squint. That is unusual, but if you type "mount pleasant and lawrence ave toronto" into google maps, the google-arrow points to about where the signals are. Notice that the main through-street has a major s-curve in it, and that there's a side street also right at the intersection. Then get out some toy cars, and draw the intersection, and explain it to me!
The "b-roll" crew chose that intersection because it was so interesting.
In the past, traffic lights and pedestrian signals have incandescent bulbs which may over time, burn out completely. Thesedays, they are being replaced with LEDs (Light emitting diodes).
How common are these mechanical controllers now in the US? What percentage of the traffic control devices population would they now represent(rough guesstimate)?
You, sir, are awesome. Very well-done video. I've always loved being at certain intersections in Chicago, waiting for the WALK light and hearing the "tick-tick-tick" and "clunk" from the relay box.
Sweet video. I'm also interested in traffic signals. I have a collection of several of them in all different sizes and types plus they run on the computerized controller. Check out my vids to see
Traffic lights = government tyranny. Only the market should decide who stays and goes at an intersection. Anything else = slavery. RON PAUL 2012!!
r0npaul4prez 2 months ago
Winnipeg, Manitoba still has Eagle Signal electro-mechanical relays for intersections in residential areas. You can view a YouTube video of this by entering:
Winnipeg Traffic Signals in the Search window. Vancouver, B.C. had this type of control until 1985. I once saw a police constable walk up to an old control box of non-functioning signals, give it a kick with his boot and immediately everything started working again!
gongringer 4 months ago
I just came back from Montreal, and they still have these mechanical control boxes in Downtown. Almost every intersection I saw (or heard I guess) (except for one) had a mechanical box.
Breeze646 4 months ago
Wow, that is so weird; the traffic lights in America have yellow casing.
AmyRoseCute 5 months ago
is that Shooter Mcgavin?
Cardgames4children 5 months ago
Where is the macbook pro?
nokiaovi1 6 months ago
I've been a traffic signal collector since 1999 (I own one 8-8-8 signal and 3 12-12-12" signals from the 60s). My controllers are the older NEMA TS1 series, but nothing in my book beats that "curr-chunk" sound the electro-mechanical make, or even when the relays clicked that 60 bpm for late night flash mode. There was even a time when there was no all red clearance interval (meaning all lights are red for a predetermined time before someone gets a green light). VERY COOL VIDEO!!!
zangazoo2007 8 months ago
one question, what happens if the power goes out? does it use it's battery then?
Computist40 8 months ago
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Steven197981 3 months ago
@Computist40 Normally, an electro-mechanical controller does not have battery backup. A computerized controller does, however, have battery backup.
Steven197981 3 months ago
Is there anything that is more up to date? I'm doing a technical presentation on traffic signals. Or if you know where I can find information from credible sources that would be great.
Thanks!
spideyweb10 11 months ago
Thanks
Billmenow1 1 year ago
Even though there are many advantages about computerized controllers, I prefer traditional controllers. The reason I say this is because I like controllers that are nice and simple. It is clearly obvious that computerized controllers are capable of performing numerous functions, which is amazing. Although, I still prefer traditional controllers. I guess you could say that I am slighly old fashioned. Anyhow, excellent video!
Steven197981 1 year ago
6:25 that dude ran a red light
videogamer24385 1 year ago
I still see the old-style mechanical controls at some suburban/rural intersections that have lower traffic volumes. I suppose the traffic in these intersections is predictable enough that the newer computerized controls aren't needed.
Felamine 1 year ago
Cool ! I seen a few around chicagos western suburbs
eddy75471 1 year ago
led and pic microcontroller
hugos31 1 year ago
This is interesting, even though I think it's obsolete.
waterskippers 1 year ago
what kind are your signals
10156gamer 1 year ago
@10156gamer ,
The video was done around 1990, with borrowed equipment. I think it was all GE.
acmeschool 1 year ago
how can something preforming such simple task be so COMPLICATED? lol, its not exactly efficiant when they have to make millions of these traffic lights.
:S
sam199166 1 year ago
@sam199166 So you think traffic control is simple? Oookay.
UnOxonien 1 year ago
traffic lights are so retarded. why do they turn red in the middle of the night for no reason whatsoever?
bootyknocker2010 1 year ago
I see them all the time before they swiched it to leds
fatzGeronimo 1 year ago
excellent ..!! thanks a lot for sharing !!
domyaska 1 year ago
6:21 . he crosses a red light!!!!
181Cade 1 year ago
i wanna know where you got one of them?? #LOL
181Cade 1 year ago
this guy needs to get laid
Jefefro123 1 year ago
Good work. Im very sure some intersections in Toronto still use those controllers
TOBTransPlanInc 1 year ago
New York City still uses mechanical controllers and the synchronization is better than 99.9% of the computerized controllers I've seen. Plus there is something magical about that 'ka-chunk' sound.
deloreanman14 1 year ago
great video
mikeyo1990 1 year ago
What? Here in Pennsylvania I see burned out traffic lights all the time: D
vigilante11485 1 year ago 2
That comment was made in 1990! Now, twenty years later, we see burned out signals in Toronto as well, along with more potholes...
acmeschool 1 year ago 2
@acmeschool look at the computers dumping paper into garbage containers. anyway, I wish these traffic lights did red, red/yellow, green, yellow as seen in europe. gives drivers a little warning that the light is aboot to change to green. no more flooring it at intersections when it suddenly changes
ballm0use 1 year ago
@vigilante11485
amazing what a bullet does eh?
heathirving 1 year ago
@heathirving Fucking A!
vigilante11485 1 year ago
Awesome video...mechanicals are neat but my knowledge is in the computerized systems.
But...
I want to see the blooper reel to this video! I'm sure there's quite a bit of "electrical pokes" pulling the cycle unit and cam drum out of the cabinet while it's live.
-Nick
SignalKid 2 years ago
Hi Nick,
I didn't get any shocks or burns or cuts for the entire 26 Acme half hours! I see that I was running this thing on 120 volts (it has the correct bulbs), but it would have been totally isolated power via an isolation transformer.
I made a lot of use of the RV 12 bulb that looks like a regular one, so that I could run open-wiring circuits at safe voltages.
I ripped a lot of clothing, however....
acmeschool 2 years ago
Well thats good! Glad you played it safe. I didn't realize there was an isolation transformer. I'm not as "in-tune" with the old mechanical controllers. Cool video nonetheless!
SignalKid 2 years ago
Even now in 2010, you'll find old mechanical boxes in certain places in the united states. My first school still uses them for the school speed limit sign and in the winter, they would freeze and stop flashing.
Rymac91 2 years ago
whoo, when was this?
jimday666 2 years ago
Excellent video. Thanks for posting.
feedmepaper 2 years ago
Awesome!
WeLoveYouHulk 2 years ago
Knowledge is power, kids!
FenuGeek 2 years ago 7
00:27 . . . that's what she said.
janderson714 2 years ago 9
@janderson714
She said "they're this big"? Meh......
xsoylentx 2 years ago
1950s shit. But it worked.
antidiz 2 years ago
those Signals looked Pretty Light....are they Polycarbonate?...Nice Mechanical Controller!
form109 2 years ago
That video is from around 1990... I can't really remember. They were a nice new pair that I borrowed from the contractor who takes care of the signals here in Toronto.
acmeschool 2 years ago
I was about to say that this is really old tech. Most of the stuff in my town has digital units in the box, at the busier intersections. The old intersections still go click like usual though.
Edricofifrit 2 years ago
I wonder if these traffic lights use timer/random cycles or do they use sensors to detect vehicular traffic
jackiechan511 2 years ago
In Toronto, almost every signal has metal-detector loops under the street, and is in communication with a central computer. The intersections all have pedestrian pushbuttons as well, in case someone wants to cross when there is no traffic sitting on the detectors.
acmeschool 2 years ago
What's the deal with the traffic signal at 6:24? Why did it switch from a solid green to two turn signals?
Andrewsaxamophone 3 years ago
I don't see what you're seeing, but I never noticed that car going through the red light before! At the time, that was one of Toronto's most complex intersections, with the two cross streets being offset by a hundred feet or so.
acmeschool 3 years ago
What I meant is, the second from the left signal changes from green to yellow to red but then the two bottom lights turn on. They look like polarized lights. Why did the signal perform that function?
Andrewsaxamophone 3 years ago
OK, I see it now. I had to go to full-screen and squint. That is unusual, but if you type "mount pleasant and lawrence ave toronto" into google maps, the google-arrow points to about where the signals are. Notice that the main through-street has a major s-curve in it, and that there's a side street also right at the intersection. Then get out some toy cars, and draw the intersection, and explain it to me!
The "b-roll" crew chose that intersection because it was so interesting.
acmeschool 3 years ago
In the past, traffic lights and pedestrian signals have incandescent bulbs which may over time, burn out completely. Thesedays, they are being replaced with LEDs (Light emitting diodes).
Pedestrian signals even have timers thesedays.
simon726 3 years ago
Nice to see this video preserved for all to see. Thanks for posting this! 5* vote.
wisecrac99 3 years ago
american signals and controllers r way dated i am a traffic signals engineer in england and we have nothing like this
wainthrop 3 years ago
Hi Wainthrop,
This video is from about 1991, and the mechanical boxes were dissappearing from the streets even back then.
acmeschool 3 years ago
How common are these mechanical controllers now in the US? What percentage of the traffic control devices population would they now represent(rough guesstimate)?
littleoaf 3 years ago
I don't know about the US, but here in Toronto, the mechanical ones are all gone. The video is from about 1991.
acmeschool 3 years ago
Thanks for the reply. (I was aware of the date of the video ;))
littleoaf 3 years ago
Great vid and very nicely explained.
signaltraffic 3 years ago
You, sir, are awesome. Very well-done video. I've always loved being at certain intersections in Chicago, waiting for the WALK light and hearing the "tick-tick-tick" and "clunk" from the relay box.
aeolus925 3 years ago
Interesting, thanks!!!
dlc54 3 years ago
Sweet video. I'm also interested in traffic signals. I have a collection of several of them in all different sizes and types plus they run on the computerized controller. Check out my vids to see
SignalKid 3 years ago