Ron Paul's not going to change anything having to do with homosexual rights. I haven't heard anything about it but basically accusing him of being homophobic. What's done is done. The more important issues are changing US foreign policy, nation's economy and infrastructure.
Most states are legalizing gay marriage now, and homosexuals are allowed to adopt and raise children, and im not sure if this is true now they are now also allowed to serve in the us army, military forces.They have these things going for them. So what are the other homosexual issues?Not everyone is going to agree with homosexuality but everyone has to agree to respect others lifestyles. Even if these events are now legalized, what does that have to do with Ron Paul?He's not gonna change anything
"but he's antiwar and anti-war-on-drugs. can't we just pretend to forget that he's a racist homophobe?" all you paul supporters act like he's the only option to beat obama or whoever's actually getting the gop nomination. if you want to vote your conscience, instead of voting for the lesser evil of who can actually win, why not vote for the green party candidate? i will...
Cenk Uygur get off the racist bullshit Ron Paul is no more a racist then you are Afro American. Why don't you talk about Mitt and Newt taking money from Goldman Sac's and Fanny and Freddie. And the fact that Newt is a cheater has no morals and Mitt hides his millions in the Cayman Islands, give me a break. No one is drinking you kool-aid asswipe.
@help4343 Go and vote for the same people that put in this mess. You show your ignorance by not opening your eyes and listen to a different voice to determine right from wrong.
You showing your ignorance by not realizing your candidates two-facedness. Why should I bother voting for anyone when the chances of my single vote being the determining factor in any big election is nil?
@help4343 Alot of people actually do think that way and did for a long time. "Meh i dont really feeling like voting and idk who to vote for, but it doesn't matter because im only one vote it probably wont matter....". ALOT of people did and still do think that way
Do some research on Murray Rothbard and Lew Rockwell, their comments on race, and their involvement with Ron Paul, and you will see how disingenuous Paul's claim that libertarians can't be racists is.
SO, let me get this straight: RP spends 3 entire days with a gay couple, likes their company, "thinks the world of them," but because Ron, as a gracious guest, decides not to drop a duece in his hosts' home... he's a big ol' bigot!?
I don't know about anybody else, but when I'm someone's guest, I don't just casually blast a dooky in their house, stink the place up, possibly clog the john or leave skid marks unless it's an EXTREME BM emergency.
Scurrilous reporting. I'm very disappointed - shocked, actually - that YT would engage in this type of shabby character assassination. Shame on you! (And I say that as a long-time YT fan.) Reporting as fact unsubstantiated allegations made by a former employee (who obviously has an axe to grind). This is the kind of malicious and unprincipled "reporting" I expect from the right wing Christian fundamentalist nut jobs at Fox, Very disappointed, YT.
His story doesn't really make much sense. "Eric, just do what I say"... In regards to what?
Paul has had more disgruntled staffers than any other member of congress. Many were upset with him after 9-11 because he didn't participate in the hero worship or nationalism.
I think people have to realize that there is a split in libertarianism in the US. The Kochean, corporations-can-do-no-harm, beltway libertarians and the Rothbardian/Austro-libertarians.
Its a smear campaign against Ron Paul. Ron Paul is a doctor!!! are you telling us he didn't shake a gay mans hand threw fear of catching AIDS... Even if Ron Paul were a homophobic scum bag he would know their is no way to catch aids threw hand shacking and as such would of shaken the man hands just not to be rude.
Well I don't believe it their is to much power at stake. The status quo powers that be, will bribe people forge document or do anything to keep Ron out of the white house. His policy's will take the power from the powerful people.
@Primordialfan1 I'm a atheist and am in no way homophobic. But even if Ron was a religious nut, He would still be the best man to lead america, ill take crazy over evil any day of the week. Ron may just be able to save america from economic collapse and prevent a devastating war. To save lives and fix the corrupted government id over look his racism and homophobia (if indeed the allegations are true). Because he is Americas last hope, against tyranny.
@corneliusdn His own words regarding AIDS. Just look at that other Republican "doctor" that bought The Onion story about an abortionplex. Being a doctor doesn't grant special credibility on its own, ESPECIALLY if you're a politician like Ron Paul is.
But then as a libertarian it doesn't really matter how Ron Paul feels personally. He will allow people to live how they want to live.
To points on his physical reaction to gays. It's not that unusual among males, I've heard a few men over the years express repulsion. Also you have to think of his age, he's from a different generation, such feeling were not that unusual.
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This Eric Dondero guy clearly cannot be trusted to represent Ron Paul. Ask Ron Paul himself Cenk! Don't rely on second-hand information, especially in this current media climate where every trick in the book is being attempted to discredit Ron Paul.
That's such old-school racist xenophobic idiocy, I mean, it's beyond me how fucking stupid ignorant that shit is. However, the sad reality is that I'll take a president with such idiotic personal views, rather than any of the others on the table.
I doubt Ron Pauls personal bigotry would impact policy much, however, if he were to restore civil liberties, get some money out of politics, cut down military, maybe the president after Paul could be someone like Obama claimed he would be.
Are you willing to listen to objective journalism that contend with that belief of yours?.
Or you just indoctrinated yourself into that self-delusion, in order to dismiss him and not have to contend with his political platform, which makes people question their true beliefs?.
/watch?v=h0hpiwfM2qo (is he really a racist?).
/watch?v=HP-mYq4DaJI (the real author is found).
The choice is yours.
But don't lie to yourself.
I'm a minority, I've spoken to the man, and he's no racist.
We should talk more about Ron Paul's former campaign manager who died of cancer with 400,000$ in medical debt because he wasn't able to get insurance.
@pureaggression Great strawman, I must not care if I dont suck RPs penis.
I am very much concerned about those things, but RP cultists make me feel things will be no better under him because of the crazy blind black and white fundamentalist view they hold, their obsessions, its not healthy at all
The president isnt god, he doesnt work alone
I dont trust the people associated with him basically
Reminds me of how many stupid things are said in his name, but not by him
"Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder, who has known Ron Paul for 20 years, unequivocally dismissed charges that the Congressman was a racist in light of recent smear attempts, and said the reason for him being attacked was that he was a threat to the establishment."
Furthermore, what was Dondero trying to defend Paul against? When has Paul ever faced serious charges of homophobia? Dondero seems to be the source of many of these claims. Some denfender.
Dondero has no credibility. He actually DOES NOT support Ron Paul, because Dondero favors hawkish foreign policy toward heavily Islamic countries in addition to immigration restrictions on Muslims. Check Dondero's blog if you don't believe me. Both of these positions are at odds with Ron Paul's platform.
I'm just saddened that TYT didn't really address Dondero's legitimacy. They didn't go in to explain why he was fired from Ron Paul's campaign, and his history of lying(and being proud of it if it's in defense of his military monster beliefs).
For starters.Im latino (si soy latino) and I know first hand the feeling of discrimination so enough on that. Regarding his "homophobic" attitude, I wonder why you fail to mentioned that this happened in 1988 in Frisco and all the misplaced fears associated with the gay baths etc. Back then we didn't have the common knowledge of how HIV was transmitted or wasn't transmitted. it was all still very new, even for a Medical Doctor.
Im pro choice, and pro gay marriage! Pigeon hole me..go ahead
I think people have attached hopes to ron paul and will ignore everything that is bad about him. Like Obama, people will be delusion, but Ron Paul is a total bastard and would never make 2% in Canada. Its so bad in AMerica, that a religious dictator looks like a good idea.
Unlike Obama we can check his record, unlike Obama we don't have that... 'lets have our first black president' movement. Unlike Obama he's been consistent for his entire political career (except on the death penalty, which he now disavows due to the racism of it).
What makes you think he'll be a dictator?. If you have any evidence of him being fake or a delusion, I'd love to see it.
I mean the world is falling appart, war in iran, pakistan eminent, war in syria already on the way, in addition to war in iraq, afganistan, uganda, somalia, yemen, sudan... and then we are attacked here with patriot act, militariazation on our land, indefinite detention, tsa, ASSASINATION, and you are wasting time talking about these stupid stuffs that someone claims to have said? shameful
My name is mike and I got a more juicy story for you guys, im a good friend to Mitt Romney and when i was with him once he told me he sleeps under his bed in christmas becausehe is afraid that the tooth fairy (who is gay btw) will get him.. None of thatistrue btw but im hoping they will put it in news somewhere too.
OK, so you read unconfirmed accussations that somebody says Ron Paul said and you present it as fact? Cenk, I don't get you, sometimes you are fair then you turn right and around resort to dirty tactis. BTW, this guy IS NOT supporting Ron Paul, just thought you might like to know that.
Presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s campaign catch-phrase, “Keep America American,” was a central theme of Ku Klux Klan publications and threats towards African-Americans and other minorities in the early 1900s
Ron Paul is FOR LIBERTY FOR ALL meaning you are free to believe in whatever you want...this also applies to Ron Paul personal beliefs...regarding the toilet seat sounds pathetic considering Ron Paul being a Doctor who knows about the realities of HIV, etc doesn't feel right to me. This asshole is a disgruntled homosexual.
The "staffer" is disgruntled employee of Ron Paul. He was fired for performance issues and is now wanting to damage Ron Paul's campaign. Look it up people! I wouldn't trust anything he says.
Ron Paul did the right thing when nobody else did.
Helped a black family with delivery when nobody else would help them in a hospital back in 1972, unfortunately they had a stillborn, he didn't charge them any money.
@BestTechnoTrance I suggest next time you do a quick google search before you speak. Might save you from future embarrassment. Ron Paul has said that he believes gays should be allowed to marry if state jurisdiction allows it but he IS personally opposed to gay marriage. So nothing I said was WRONG.
Before making a final decision on whether Ron Paul hats gays you should check out this link first: ronpaulracistimpossible.blogspot(dot)com/p/ron-paul-gay-and-lesbian-anti_30(dot)html
i love how ron paul supporters are raging about this and calling it lies when they have no evidence to prove otherwise. Even if these things aren't true, it shows how blindly they will defend him with no facts to back up their side.
@theworm1244 Ron Paul supporters are immature children. Anything said about Paul, they have a fit. If god himself came and said something about Paul, these supporters will hate him or her too. These Paul-zombeis are no different than immature Obama-zombies. They love the truth, they just hate facts.
@Stingerbillion Completely, unequivocally, 100% agree. They are ham-fisted children who throw tantrums and then build enormous straw dragons to slay if you have any dissenting view. "Oh so you're a corporate Trotskyist Marxist Leninist Socialist Communist Stalinist Illuminati supporter then?" Can't wait for Ron Paul drops out for the last time.
@theworm1244, I can't speak for all Ron Paul supporters, but here is some evidence: ronpaulracistimpossible.blogspot(dot)com/2011/12/unabridged-even-more-racially-charged(dot)html
@bluesrockfan36 the video you linked was posted by Ron Paul's PAC so I'm not going to take their word for it. But yea Lew Rockwell writing that makes a lot more sense, though the fact that Paul let that shit slide is questionable on his part. But that like blaming Obama for everything his reverend says... fuck none of this matters anyway.
this is not mere carelessness. this was a deliberate strategy to appeal to the ugliest parts of American society.
And you really have to be kidding me about the link posted. That's not a "reality check." That's a slickly produced video intended to obscure just how ugly those pieces were. That guy Swan keeps saying "so-called" racist. Really? "So-called"?
everyone has faults. actions speak louder then words,and Ron Paul's actions have proven he is the biggest defender for minorities and their rights,much much more so then any other candidate, IF you pay attention to his voting record
@starone1 His voting record is public, look it up. Has he voted against those rights before? It's not my job to educate/convince you. My point is merely that someone's personal opinions do not necessarily translate into political policy. As I said, I'm not in favor of abortion, but I know that it's BAD POLICY for the gov't to get involved too deeply in that decision. Likewise someone might be personally a bit racist but still understand that it is a bad idea to implement that opinion into policy
@jallison79 being a moron is falling for the shit you regurgitate, stop supporting your puppet cocksucker and his failed conservative bs and economic fallacy. get a clue or a hug.
@boxbreaker2011 he's the circus clown trying to keep everyone's attention from focusing on the massive amounts of elephant shit being dropped in front of their eyes. fuck him and his extremist right wing psycho talk and racist xenophobic propaganda.
I've never heard him say anything extremist right winged psycho talk at all, have you?.
I would love to know what you're talking about here. How is balancing the budget, stop perpetrating senseless wars and restoring the rights of Americans... 'extremist psycho talk', or even right wing?.
You wan't some extremist psycho policies:
President Obama signed yesterday, a bill that allows him without trail nor evidence indefinitely detain US citizens. He can also summarily execute us.
@bluesrockfan36 Don't you mean people that are against him? XD LMAO ROTF!!!! Republicans got their vote blocks, now the Democrats can lock up confederate rebels; sounds fair to me.
@bluesrockfan36 Your game of politics is rather weak. If the democrats were no different why instate "Human Development Programs" such as the "Patient Protection & Affordable Healthcare Act" (which saved my life), "American Recovery & Re-Investment Act" & "Healthcare & Education Reconciliation Act"? Also, you slipped up at the end convincing me to lean even further towards the democratsl. I remember history all right, the "Civil War" & "Civil Rights Act" ring a bell? Of course it does lol.
You're highly mistaken if you don't believe Republicans are in favor of such and other big spending bureaucratic programs. Prescription drug bills ring a bell?.
But that's not my problem with you, you may disagree philosophically with me anyway and to any amount as you wish.
But when you SAY, that due to my difference of beliefs I deserve to be executed and indefinitely imprisoned... you lose all your credibility as you display such a massive disrespect for human rights.
You just hide yourself in a cloud of self deluded superior morality when you try to forward those programs and beneficial to the population. Which you immediately lose when you suggest such totalitarian concepts as summary executions.
What you fail to realize, is that the other side of the argument wants the exact same goals as you... improve living conditions for everyone. They just have different ways, to reach that goal.
@bluesrockfan36 I wish you can hear my laugh right now, you should be a fucking political comedian XD LMAO ROTF!!! Oh really? How does anti-abortion improve the standards of living? As well as denying emergency funds when natural diasaters hit? Or how about cutting funding to all the programs that improve the standards of living such as healthcare & the police force? Damn right I want to execute those souless beings who want to create $1 a day jobs overseas. Whats next from your mouth? XD!!!
There is simply not enough space to correct your misconceptions.
I'm not even going to get on the abortion argument, since it's pointless and insignificant in comparison to summary executions and indefinite detention.
As for FEMA, tell me how did we survived as a nation before 1979?. Why don't you go read on how bad FEMA operates and how hard it is to actually provide help to those who need... why don't you go read on how they stop the Red Cross from assisting people?.
But given your obscene prejudice, It would be pointless to try and explain you the problem with socialized insurance.
I'll make it simple, if you can't get insurance (since companies wont provide) in a dangerous area (hurracaine-prone) coast for instance... instead of building your house in a safer area, the government steps in and automatically insures your home.
I'm not sure why you adhere so much to the prejudiced left vs right paradigm. It's simply not true. Are you saying Bush spent too LITTLE money?. Do you even know how he started the TARP issues, expanded the department of education, almost doubled it actually with no child left behind, the prescription drug program which costed us over a trillion dollars.
Are you saying he was a 'good' president?. How deluded you are.
What's even more staggering is your lack of understanding on economic matters, I strongly suggest you start reading books on the diverse theories available.
What makes you *think* for a second that both republicans and democrats don't contribute to the '1 $ day jobs overseas'?.
I'm glad you find the subject of assassinating your fellow U.S citizens without trail nor evidence funny or amusing, maybe after all we deserve to live in a country that institutes that.
@bluesrockfan36 You really need some help playing devil's advocate. Also you still suck at playing politics, epic fail on trying to conivnce me that government shouldn't "Human Development Programs". The Federal Order treats me better than my "certain" fellow citizens that view me as less than human. So why would I want to help them when they are absolutely against me? Now what was the point of telling me a quote from a coward.
Would you believe me if I told you, I'm honestly not 'playing politics', but instead I'm seriously concerned what will happen if we destroy our bill of rights?.
There is one rather large fallacy you're committing though, trying to separate the 'federal order' from your 'fellow citizen'... such thing does not exist.
The government IS your fellow citizen, it's the collective will of your fellow citizen actually forced into the dissenting minority.
@bluesrockfan36 When you say we, I hope you mean the people who lean right that vote for such nut cases into power; then yes I'm as concerned as you. Yes, the people are the foundation of the country, but those who vote for individuals that neglect the human life dont undrstand that. I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the cattle who treat me horrible over appearance. True, I do dislike the NDAA but the only thing I can do now is to help make sure it doesnt fall into the wrong hands.
That's Obama's argument (that he wont use it), but truth is, statistically there's a very high chance given the condition of the economy, that we'll end up with a neo-con Republican, then we're all screwed.
Do you want Michelle Bachman to be able to decide who to kill and make 'disappear'?.
It's sad, but if we lose our Bill of Rights, it's the death of our Republic.
@lambofreak55 Very well said and spot fucking on. The Paul folks are knee jerk reactionaries anytime a story about Paul and what was written in his name (and he profited from). Honestly, as someone who doesn't give a shit about Paul, or anyone running 2012, some of his supporters (many here on YT) are like a cult devoted to the man..... and a fucking politician at that. It was sick when the Obama people did it in '08, and it's just as creepy now. A lot of these people are not rational. At all.
you would make a terrible lawyer. she said, he said. and all unprovable here say. you take this like it's fact and incontrovertible evidence, 'tis not, good uygur, for you are bold, you have stumbled into a pit of misinformation.
The only people in America that don't want Ron Paul to become President are the Jews. It is now clear who the real enemy of America truly is. As the Roman statesman "Cicero" looked on as his great country was crumbling down around him, he set out to understand the cause of the destruction of his beloved country Rome and concluded it to be the work of the "Enemy Within". Those who are subverting and distorting the truth about RON PAUL and his message of LIBERTY and FREEDOM are the "Enemy Within".
a guy who likes being fucked up the ass and goes on to stand up for gay rights might be a minor hero..
but a guy who finds the whole thing so sickenning that he acts like ron paul... but still stands up for their rights is a true libertarian ...that puts some liberals to shame..
@suziecreamchease But he isnt standing up for the rights of gay people... he thinks churches should be allowed to "choose" if they want to marry "certain people". That is simply naive, yes a few churches would but the majority would not. It would mean that for the exact same wedding, gay people would have to pay so much more just to be able to get to the places that do allow gay marriage. They can already do that... Hawaii... Britain... many places allow gay marriage.
You are confusing rights with privilege - inconvenience with oppression.
It is every bit as silly and pathetic to imagine that anyone has a god given right to turn up and demand what you want from any church regardless of its individual ethos as it is to go into someone else's bedroom to tell any number of consenting adults what they are allowed to do. I do not believe that being born gay means being born so crippled that you cannot maybe set up your own church..
@suziecreamchease No, theres no such thing as "God" so there are no "God given rights"... BUT if a gay couple buy into it and want to get married they should be able to. Churches dont like it? Pay taxes. I dont think marriage should even be a thing... but as it is, people shouldnt be excluded from it for the circumstances of which they were born.
Ron Paul is only using this because he KNOWS most Churches wont allow it, he is a coward and a bigot.
altho we both disagree with much of what ron paul says, if we both agree that there is no god - then maybe we then thus both also agree with ron paul that each of us is our own sovereign person not obliged provide any service to anyone else - which means individuals in a church can choose whether or not to grant a mariage. (it would also follow that a woman has the right to terminate pregnancy).
Other/real issue is government representing all of us must treat us all equally
@suziecreamchease Well, except Ron Paul doesnt support a womans choice. He has made that abundantly clear, he thinks letting the state decide what a woman can do with her womb is not fascistic but telling them they have a choice IS... weird huh?
He is full of contradictions and I dont like liars, hypocrites, cheats or murderers so you can see why I dont like Ron Paul.
I don't understand your argument against Ron Paul's abortion ideology. He firmly opposes it personally, so do many other people on a simple principle of human rights for a viable fetus. But..
He understands there is no palace to *impose* your beliefs in a democratic government, so he refers to the states as mandated by the law (constitution)
How is that fascistic, liar or hypocritical?. At best, it speaks highly of someone willing to follow the law, against his own convictions
@bluesrockfan36 State controlling the actions and choices of the public... Hmm, I wonder how is that Fascistic... HMM?!
He says he is for smaller government... so then why is it okay to let banks and corporations run rampant but women cant decide for themselves? Thats a lie and its hypocritical... claiming you are for small government and removing government from private lives, then having the government involved in a VERY personal and difficult choice.
All forms of government to one extent or another control the choices of the public. If you kill someone, you get arrested, de facto 'controlling your choice'.
The subject cannot be purely approached from a woman's point of view, legally a viable fetus has rights as well. If you kill one in an accident you go to jail under manslaughter.
Ron Paul's advocating for the criminality/legality of abortion, same as any other issue... let them be dealt state wise.
You conflate what the US law says with considering for oneself what might be right. This seems to a problem of USA where you bow down & worship constitution rather than taking proper adult responsibility for thinking yourself what is best in the real world now.
Belief in god or what the law says about a fetus is dangerous step removed the real issues that a woman needs to be allowed to make for herself about her own powers and what she considers to be her own responsibilities.
It's not really a 'constitution worship' positions, in fact I disagree with several constitution amendments. But the ones I endorse heavily, are the bill of rights. Once we compromise the principle that our rights come from our humanity, and attribute them to the government, then they become a commodity.
There is no advantage as a population or as an individual to whom the government has supreme authority over the masses.
As for the abortion argument, it's not a religious belief but more of a logical belief. At certain point in the gestation of a fetus, harming or killing him would be considered murder. Where that point is exactly, I don't know.
But you can't say that a woman can abort a fetus a minute before birth, but if instead she decided to give birth and minute later kill the baby, she's charged with murder socially unopposed
The pro-abortion and the anti-abortion argument lacks logic.
Ron Paul's not going to change anything having to do with homosexual rights. I haven't heard anything about it but basically accusing him of being homophobic. What's done is done. The more important issues are changing US foreign policy, nation's economy and infrastructure.
Nenie 22 hours ago
Most states are legalizing gay marriage now, and homosexuals are allowed to adopt and raise children, and im not sure if this is true now they are now also allowed to serve in the us army, military forces.They have these things going for them. So what are the other homosexual issues?Not everyone is going to agree with homosexuality but everyone has to agree to respect others lifestyles. Even if these events are now legalized, what does that have to do with Ron Paul?He's not gonna change anything
Nenie 22 hours ago
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Nenie 23 hours ago
"but he's antiwar and anti-war-on-drugs. can't we just pretend to forget that he's a racist homophobe?" all you paul supporters act like he's the only option to beat obama or whoever's actually getting the gop nomination. if you want to vote your conscience, instead of voting for the lesser evil of who can actually win, why not vote for the green party candidate? i will...
phunkboy 2 weeks ago
What a load of bullshit. It's expected from The Young Turds, though.
UrMomalex 2 weeks ago
OK but he's still the least repulsive of all the GOP candidates.
sirtristan01 3 weeks ago
Cenk Uygur get off the racist bullshit Ron Paul is no more a racist then you are Afro American. Why don't you talk about Mitt and Newt taking money from Goldman Sac's and Fanny and Freddie. And the fact that Newt is a cheater has no morals and Mitt hides his millions in the Cayman Islands, give me a break. No one is drinking you kool-aid asswipe.
codispdp 3 weeks ago 2
@codispdp
You are the one trying to cover up your idols shortcomings. How is that moral?
help4343 1 week ago
@help4343 Go and vote for the same people that put in this mess. You show your ignorance by not opening your eyes and listen to a different voice to determine right from wrong.
codispdp 1 week ago
@codispdp
You showing your ignorance by not realizing your candidates two-facedness. Why should I bother voting for anyone when the chances of my single vote being the determining factor in any big election is nil?
help4343 1 week ago
@help4343 Because if everyone thought like that then no one would vote
KiriStarcraft 1 week ago
@KiriStarcraft
But everyone doesn't think like that.
help4343 6 days ago
@help4343 Alot of people actually do think that way and did for a long time. "Meh i dont really feeling like voting and idk who to vote for, but it doesn't matter because im only one vote it probably wont matter....". ALOT of people did and still do think that way
KiriStarcraft 6 days ago
@codispdp
Do some research on Murray Rothbard and Lew Rockwell, their comments on race, and their involvement with Ron Paul, and you will see how disingenuous Paul's claim that libertarians can't be racists is.
help4343 1 week ago
@codispdp tnr.com/sites/default/files/RTA.pdf
TheJungleCityKilla 1 day ago
Such bullshit really Eric Dondero is a loser and disgruntled employee. How much did he make for these statements?
codispdp 3 weeks ago
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CRAPCANNONS 3 weeks ago
fuck ISRAEL! if you can't see the harm they are doing to the world and America, then may god have mercy on your soul.
dragnet53 3 weeks ago
So what? He's homophobic..Who cares? I still want him to win the presidential election....
hippypancake 3 weeks ago
Being a guy, i don't give a damn about abortion one way or another
BorgKing001 1 month ago
@BorgKing001 Are you not a human with empathy? or are you a sociopath like so many "libertarians"?
inademv 3 weeks ago
@inademv I'm a realist. I know there is no god and good intentions don't solve problems
BorgKing001 3 weeks ago
SO, let me get this straight: RP spends 3 entire days with a gay couple, likes their company, "thinks the world of them," but because Ron, as a gracious guest, decides not to drop a duece in his hosts' home... he's a big ol' bigot!?
I don't know about anybody else, but when I'm someone's guest, I don't just casually blast a dooky in their house, stink the place up, possibly clog the john or leave skid marks unless it's an EXTREME BM emergency.
Weakest. Character. Assassination. Attempt. Ever.
MrPloppy1 1 month ago
@MrPloppy1 Weakest defence ever on your part.
MJH505060 3 weeks ago
Scurrilous reporting. I'm very disappointed - shocked, actually - that YT would engage in this type of shabby character assassination. Shame on you! (And I say that as a long-time YT fan.) Reporting as fact unsubstantiated allegations made by a former employee (who obviously has an axe to grind). This is the kind of malicious and unprincipled "reporting" I expect from the right wing Christian fundamentalist nut jobs at Fox, Very disappointed, YT.
costatropicalgranada 1 month ago
This is classic he said she said unprovable crap
drummerjstone 1 month ago
All of this is bullshit propoganda made up to smear candidates
drummerjstone 1 month ago
I'm still voting for him. I literally couldn't give less of a shit about stories like this.
chronDiggity 1 month ago
And btw I've seen Ron Paul shake a gay mans hand, Justin Raimondo, at a rally in San Francisco. I'm sure there is video of this somewhere.
VictoryCough 1 month ago
His story doesn't really make much sense. "Eric, just do what I say"... In regards to what?
Paul has had more disgruntled staffers than any other member of congress. Many were upset with him after 9-11 because he didn't participate in the hero worship or nationalism.
I think people have to realize that there is a split in libertarianism in the US. The Kochean, corporations-can-do-no-harm, beltway libertarians and the Rothbardian/Austro-libertarians.
VictoryCough 1 month ago
ughh some people are just so closed minded and old fashion I really hope no one votes for him.
phoenix73662 1 month ago
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snax20091 1 month ago
Its a smear campaign against Ron Paul. Ron Paul is a doctor!!! are you telling us he didn't shake a gay mans hand threw fear of catching AIDS... Even if Ron Paul were a homophobic scum bag he would know their is no way to catch aids threw hand shacking and as such would of shaken the man hands just not to be rude.
corneliusdn 1 month ago
@corneliusdn
RON PAUL is a creationist.
It's no smear campaign.
Primordialfan1 1 month ago
Well I don't believe it their is to much power at stake. The status quo powers that be, will bribe people forge document or do anything to keep Ron out of the white house. His policy's will take the power from the powerful people.
corneliusdn 1 month ago
@Primordialfan1 I'm a atheist and am in no way homophobic. But even if Ron was a religious nut, He would still be the best man to lead america, ill take crazy over evil any day of the week. Ron may just be able to save america from economic collapse and prevent a devastating war. To save lives and fix the corrupted government id over look his racism and homophobia (if indeed the allegations are true). Because he is Americas last hope, against tyranny.
corneliusdn 1 month ago
@corneliusdn His own words regarding AIDS. Just look at that other Republican "doctor" that bought The Onion story about an abortionplex. Being a doctor doesn't grant special credibility on its own, ESPECIALLY if you're a politician like Ron Paul is.
inademv 3 weeks ago
But then as a libertarian it doesn't really matter how Ron Paul feels personally. He will allow people to live how they want to live.
To points on his physical reaction to gays. It's not that unusual among males, I've heard a few men over the years express repulsion. Also you have to think of his age, he's from a different generation, such feeling were not that unusual.
canisfamilliaris 1 month ago
Dear Mr. Young Turk... I have now seen you on an MSM outlet numerous times.. It's also quite obvious you have much more money supporting your youtube channel than before.. I have just a little advice for you.. If you plan in any way to continue to be popular with this channel, from people like myself, stay away from MSM.. You will lose all credibility you have..
NateBjammin 1 month ago
@NateBjammin this coming from a guy on YouTube with no credibility whatsoever.
whiteriotalex 1 month ago
@whiteriotalex Don't you have some christians to be hating?
NateBjammin 1 month ago
@NateBjammin do you have some facts to be hating?
whiteriotalex 1 month ago
@NateBjammin Don't you have some spam to be doing you moron.
whiteriotalex 1 month ago
@whiteriotalex Haha.. Jeeze.. I think your second attempt was a little better.. Good job.. I Don't hate any facts, never spam, and wasn't even commenting about this video specifically.. Maybe in the future, when you speak to adults, you could stray away from name calling.. Makes you look like a 14 year old..
NateBjammin 1 month ago
Uh Rpn was a doctor, perhaps he was concerned about AIDS. Don't get how that's homophobic.
Asymmatrix 1 month ago
This Eric Dondero guy clearly cannot be trusted to represent Ron Paul. Ask Ron Paul himself Cenk! Don't rely on second-hand information, especially in this current media climate where every trick in the book is being attempted to discredit Ron Paul.
Rogermiler 1 month ago
That's such old-school racist xenophobic idiocy, I mean, it's beyond me how fucking stupid ignorant that shit is. However, the sad reality is that I'll take a president with such idiotic personal views, rather than any of the others on the table.
I doubt Ron Pauls personal bigotry would impact policy much, however, if he were to restore civil liberties, get some money out of politics, cut down military, maybe the president after Paul could be someone like Obama claimed he would be.
MyTemporaryAccount88 1 month ago
Anal sex (homo or hetero) is a death sentence.
bltsrmsqt 1 month ago
@bltsrmsqt BULL.
MargieMama 4 weeks ago
Ron Paul supporters claim they enjoy hearing the truth for once. But what they don't like, is hearing the truth about Ron Paul!
misterlunatic 1 month ago
@misterlunatic exactly... no ones perfect but the paulites cant accept that.
turnbacktime 1 month ago
@turnbacktime @misterlunatic
How in earth, is testimony from a disgruntled former employee suddenly constitute as evidence that he's a racist?.
How on earth does NOT writing racist statements make you a racist?. Specially know that we know the author: James B. Powell.
Can you name a single candidate including Obama that hasn't been called a 'racist'?.
Racist is a serious allegation to downplay it like that.
Are you saying, that Obama supporters can't accept that he's a racist?.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
@bluesrockfan36 of course he wrote those racist statements. thats not even a discussion.
turnbacktime 1 month ago
@turnbacktime
Are you willing to listen to objective journalism that contend with that belief of yours?.
Or you just indoctrinated yourself into that self-delusion, in order to dismiss him and not have to contend with his political platform, which makes people question their true beliefs?.
/watch?v=h0hpiwfM2qo (is he really a racist?).
/watch?v=HP-mYq4DaJI (the real author is found).
The choice is yours.
But don't lie to yourself.
I'm a minority, I've spoken to the man, and he's no racist.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
We should talk more about Ron Paul's former campaign manager who died of cancer with 400,000$ in medical debt because he wasn't able to get insurance.
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@inademv Do you have a link to that info? Please send it to me, I'd like to look into it. Thanks.
MargieMama 4 weeks ago
@pureaggression Great strawman, I must not care if I dont suck RPs penis.
I am very much concerned about those things, but RP cultists make me feel things will be no better under him because of the crazy blind black and white fundamentalist view they hold, their obsessions, its not healthy at all
The president isnt god, he doesnt work alone
I dont trust the people associated with him basically
Reminds me of how many stupid things are said in his name, but not by him
waltermh111 1 month ago
Does this guy just make this shit up as he goes? So and so said what? This is a horrible excuse for a story.
smilewait4flash 1 month ago
Ron Paul anti Israel? I love him 1000 times more now :) By the way Fuck You Cenk you sell out punk.
MrDavidDux 1 month ago
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"Austin NAACP President Nelson Linder, who has known Ron Paul for 20 years, unequivocally dismissed charges that the Congressman was a racist in light of recent smear attempts, and said the reason for him being attacked was that he was a threat to the establishment."
LIBERTYALONE 1 month ago
Furthermore, what was Dondero trying to defend Paul against? When has Paul ever faced serious charges of homophobia? Dondero seems to be the source of many of these claims. Some denfender.
ElGeecho 1 month ago
Dondero has no credibility. He actually DOES NOT support Ron Paul, because Dondero favors hawkish foreign policy toward heavily Islamic countries in addition to immigration restrictions on Muslims. Check Dondero's blog if you don't believe me. Both of these positions are at odds with Ron Paul's platform.
ElGeecho 1 month ago
you are desperate for a story pal
kristoferfir 1 month ago
what...............a non issue
kristoferfir 1 month ago
jesus, that bathroom thing reminds me of the racist white people in the help.
EllaBelle18 1 month ago
@plowerrr3 Probably the "know but don't care" category or "don't really know that much about Ron Paul" category.
TubingWithMyGnomies 2 months ago
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He didn't write them. It has been debunked:
/watch?v=95CagSkXZYc&feature=player_embedded
fox19(dot)com/story/16458700/reality-check-the-name-of-a-mystery-writer-of-one-of-ron-pauls-racist-newsletters
opszanski 2 months ago
I'm just saddened that TYT didn't really address Dondero's legitimacy. They didn't go in to explain why he was fired from Ron Paul's campaign, and his history of lying(and being proud of it if it's in defense of his military monster beliefs).
MontajBlaze 2 months ago
this is just political talk I doubt any of its accurate ron paul supports gay marrage for crying out loud.
viper10011 2 months ago
lol so in other words he is a typical texan
TheCrappyaccount 2 months ago
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For starters.Im latino (si soy latino) and I know first hand the feeling of discrimination so enough on that. Regarding his "homophobic" attitude, I wonder why you fail to mentioned that this happened in 1988 in Frisco and all the misplaced fears associated with the gay baths etc. Back then we didn't have the common knowledge of how HIV was transmitted or wasn't transmitted. it was all still very new, even for a Medical Doctor.
Im pro choice, and pro gay marriage! Pigeon hole me..go ahead
Sidsix5555 2 months ago
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Sidsix5555 2 months ago
END THE FED!
LifeStyleOverDosed 2 months ago
Ummm, dipshit... you CAN get aids from saliva... it's like a .001 chance. But its very possible, if not probable.
pcgamernum1 2 months ago
My cousins, brother in law's wife's son saw ron paul take a shit and didn't wash his hands.
iplz 2 months ago
Maybe Ron knew how the bathroom looked like and knew where that hand had been and thought: "NO F**king WAY".
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Dislikes = Ron Paul cultists!
deeppurple28 2 months ago 2
I think people have attached hopes to ron paul and will ignore everything that is bad about him. Like Obama, people will be delusion, but Ron Paul is a total bastard and would never make 2% in Canada. Its so bad in AMerica, that a religious dictator looks like a good idea.
isaacBrockofthe41 2 months ago
@isaacBrockofthe41
Unlike Obama we can check his record, unlike Obama we don't have that... 'lets have our first black president' movement. Unlike Obama he's been consistent for his entire political career (except on the death penalty, which he now disavows due to the racism of it).
What makes you think he'll be a dictator?. If you have any evidence of him being fake or a delusion, I'd love to see it.
There was plenty to go around with Obama.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
Cenk you are losing me. Been a long time supporter but you're losing me.....
holya69 2 months ago
this guy is crazy, RON PAUL 2011, look him up! learn the truth!
gregmusselman 2 months ago
I mean the world is falling appart, war in iran, pakistan eminent, war in syria already on the way, in addition to war in iraq, afganistan, uganda, somalia, yemen, sudan... and then we are attacked here with patriot act, militariazation on our land, indefinite detention, tsa, ASSASINATION, and you are wasting time talking about these stupid stuffs that someone claims to have said? shameful
cfrb 2 months ago
cenk is such astupid.. he will take 100 peoples opinion, but he wont quote Ron Paul himelsf, or his policy position?
cfrb 2 months ago
Thank you for your analysis. It will be well utilized.
DCFunBud 2 months ago
One of the worst analyses so far by Cenk.
knnknn3 2 months ago
My name is mike and I got a more juicy story for you guys, im a good friend to Mitt Romney and when i was with him once he told me he sleeps under his bed in christmas becausehe is afraid that the tooth fairy (who is gay btw) will get him.. None of thatistrue btw but im hoping they will put it in news somewhere too.
Mixalot555 2 months ago
OK, so you read unconfirmed accussations that somebody says Ron Paul said and you present it as fact? Cenk, I don't get you, sometimes you are fair then you turn right and around resort to dirty tactis. BTW, this guy IS NOT supporting Ron Paul, just thought you might like to know that.
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@Kendrahf Haha. You, my friend, are funny.
TheAssesKicker 2 months ago
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TheCristo68 2 months ago
Ron Paul is FOR LIBERTY FOR ALL meaning you are free to believe in whatever you want...this also applies to Ron Paul personal beliefs...regarding the toilet seat sounds pathetic considering Ron Paul being a Doctor who knows about the realities of HIV, etc doesn't feel right to me. This asshole is a disgruntled homosexual.
ilindah 2 months ago
The "staffer" is disgruntled employee of Ron Paul. He was fired for performance issues and is now wanting to damage Ron Paul's campaign. Look it up people! I wouldn't trust anything he says.
7ranc3Addict 2 months ago
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News Letters are BULLSHIT.
Ron Paul did the right thing when nobody else did.
Helped a black family with delivery when nobody else would help them in a hospital back in 1972, unfortunately they had a stillborn, he didn't charge them any money.
watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4
watch?v=mB7SG5gpWAw
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romanmir01 2 months ago
lol americans are so fuked up bigtalk
cs1983cs 2 months ago
dondero is fuckin fool
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@BestTechnoTrance I suggest next time you do a quick google search before you speak. Might save you from future embarrassment. Ron Paul has said that he believes gays should be allowed to marry if state jurisdiction allows it but he IS personally opposed to gay marriage. So nothing I said was WRONG.
SupaAmi 2 months ago
Before making a final decision on whether Ron Paul hats gays you should check out this link first: ronpaulracistimpossible.blogspot(dot)com/p/ron-paul-gay-and-lesbian-anti_30(dot)html
Sovereign1201 2 months ago
Take a look at this link before deciding if Ron Paul is racist or not: stumbleupon(dot)com/su/1aWuDx
Sovereign1201 2 months ago
i love how ron paul supporters are raging about this and calling it lies when they have no evidence to prove otherwise. Even if these things aren't true, it shows how blindly they will defend him with no facts to back up their side.
theworm1244 2 months ago
@theworm1244 Ron Paul supporters are immature children. Anything said about Paul, they have a fit. If god himself came and said something about Paul, these supporters will hate him or her too. These Paul-zombeis are no different than immature Obama-zombies. They love the truth, they just hate facts.
Stingerbillion 2 months ago
@Stingerbillion Completely, unequivocally, 100% agree. They are ham-fisted children who throw tantrums and then build enormous straw dragons to slay if you have any dissenting view. "Oh so you're a corporate Trotskyist Marxist Leninist Socialist Communist Stalinist Illuminati supporter then?" Can't wait for Ron Paul drops out for the last time.
SocialDissimulation 2 months ago
@theworm1244, I can't speak for all Ron Paul supporters, but here is some evidence: ronpaulracistimpossible.blogspot(dot)com/2011/12/unabridged-even-more-racially-charged(dot)html
and
ronpaulracistimpossible.blogspot(dot)com/p/ron-paul-gay-and-lesbian-anti_30(dot)html
Sovereign1201 2 months ago
@theworm1244
Let me get this right... you want Ron Paul supporters to provide a negative for an unwarranted accusation?.
Hmm... ever heard of the burden of proof?. Can you prove to me that invisible pink unicorns don't exist? :P.
Anyways, his record, his stances, the free pro-bono medical service he provided to the communities disprove racist allegations.
/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4
Also, if you look deeper you can find out who wrote the articles: Lew Rockwell.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@bluesrockfan36 the video you linked was posted by Ron Paul's PAC so I'm not going to take their word for it. But yea Lew Rockwell writing that makes a lot more sense, though the fact that Paul let that shit slide is questionable on his part. But that like blaming Obama for everything his reverend says... fuck none of this matters anyway.
theworm1244 1 month ago
@theworm1244
Heh, I understand.
However we actually have proof of who wrote his racist newsletters now, and it wasn't Lew Rockwell, it was a guy named James B. Powell.
Thanks to Ben Swann an investigative journalist:
/watch?v=h0hpiwfM2qo (<- video analyzing the newsletters).
/watch?v=HP-mYq4DaJI (<- identity found, and how they kept the byline page 'off' from the scanned ones).
I do agree, he was careless and he even admits it.
But being careless 25 years ago, is hardly a disqualifier.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
this is not mere carelessness. this was a deliberate strategy to appeal to the ugliest parts of American society.
And you really have to be kidding me about the link posted. That's not a "reality check." That's a slickly produced video intended to obscure just how ugly those pieces were. That guy Swan keeps saying "so-called" racist. Really? "So-called"?
GoSolar 1 month ago
@GoSolar
Yes, so called. You need more than a newsletter NOT written by you published 25 years ago to be a racist.
Every candidate in the race has been called racist, including Obama. They couldn't all be racist.
I love it how people fling terms as if they were applicable just to dismiss candidates they don't like.
Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate willing to do something about current racism in the system, and yet you call him racist.
If you don't like objective journalism, too bad.
bluesrockfan36 1 month ago
Turks usually have more balls than what Uygur appears to have.
bltsrmsqt 2 months ago
I think it needs to be pointed out that Kent Snyder, Paul's former campaign manager, was openly gay.
jfeucht82 2 months ago
Cenk is terrified of offending certain cliques ------------- sodomy (gay or not) is functionally unnatural.
Just ask any GI surgeon!
bltsrmsqt 2 months ago
@bltsrmsqt You are absolutely retarded, sodomy is completely natural. The male equivalent to the G-spot is in his prostate you fucking ignoramus.
theworm1244 1 month ago
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everyone has faults. actions speak louder then words,and Ron Paul's actions have proven he is the biggest defender for minorities and their rights,much much more so then any other candidate, IF you pay attention to his voting record
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1,298 Ron Paul Sheeple dislike smoking gun evidence...ease up on the kool-aid folks ;-)
2048scotty 2 months ago
@2048scotty
I hardly consider hearsay on a disgruntled employee evidence, my standards are a bit higher than that.
I hope you bought some dragon insurance, you know, given the immense amount of 'smoking gun' evidence to support believing in their existence.
I mean I saw one on a photo, and saw someone writing about it... they must be real.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@pudgimelon You say he would defend the rights of blacks, gays, latinos, and jews? Prove it, because right now I'm not convinced that he would.
starone1 2 months ago
@starone1, here's some evidence: ronpaulracistimpossible.blogspot(dot)com/p/ron-paul-gay-and-lesbian-anti_30(dot)html
Sovereign1201 2 months ago
ronpaulracistimpossible.blogspot(dot)com/2011/12/unabridged-even-more-racially-charged(dot)html
Sovereign1201 2 months ago
@starone1 Google his voting record.
pudgimelon 2 months ago
@starone1 His voting record is public, look it up. Has he voted against those rights before? It's not my job to educate/convince you. My point is merely that someone's personal opinions do not necessarily translate into political policy. As I said, I'm not in favor of abortion, but I know that it's BAD POLICY for the gov't to get involved too deeply in that decision. Likewise someone might be personally a bit racist but still understand that it is a bad idea to implement that opinion into policy
pudgimelon 1 month ago
@fuzzjunky ding ding ding
daderone 2 months ago
@daderone thanks for the adult input. your mum must be proud
fuzzjunky 2 months ago
@jallison79 being a moron is falling for the shit you regurgitate, stop supporting your puppet cocksucker and his failed conservative bs and economic fallacy. get a clue or a hug.
daderone 2 months ago
@harj2009 the most ignorant on world affairs actually but why bother to try to pull your head out of your ass, it might break your neck.
daderone 2 months ago
@Nubfalconium nailed it.
daderone 2 months ago
@SelfImmolator you got it! tell him what he's won!!! a chance to not be a dumb fuck right wing moron.
daderone 2 months ago
@boxbreaker2011 he's the circus clown trying to keep everyone's attention from focusing on the massive amounts of elephant shit being dropped in front of their eyes. fuck him and his extremist right wing psycho talk and racist xenophobic propaganda.
daderone 2 months ago
@daderone
I've never heard him say anything extremist right winged psycho talk at all, have you?.
I would love to know what you're talking about here. How is balancing the budget, stop perpetrating senseless wars and restoring the rights of Americans... 'extremist psycho talk', or even right wing?.
You wan't some extremist psycho policies:
President Obama signed yesterday, a bill that allows him without trail nor evidence indefinitely detain US citizens. He can also summarily execute us.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@bluesrockfan36 Don't you mean people that are against him? XD LMAO ROTF!!!! Republicans got their vote blocks, now the Democrats can lock up confederate rebels; sounds fair to me.
Bronzecop 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
I will let you marinate in your stupidity for a bit.
The idea that democrats are any different than republicans is beyond absurd.
The idea that one party should have the power to assassinate/imprison without trial nor evidence over the other is... sheer ignorance.
What will you do once the 'republicans' get into power, you think those bills will disappear?.
I can't believe you're actually in favor of these very dangerous policies, do you know ANYTHING about U.S history?.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@bluesrockfan36 Your game of politics is rather weak. If the democrats were no different why instate "Human Development Programs" such as the "Patient Protection & Affordable Healthcare Act" (which saved my life), "American Recovery & Re-Investment Act" & "Healthcare & Education Reconciliation Act"? Also, you slipped up at the end convincing me to lean even further towards the democratsl. I remember history all right, the "Civil War" & "Civil Rights Act" ring a bell? Of course it does lol.
Bronzecop 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
You're highly mistaken if you don't believe Republicans are in favor of such and other big spending bureaucratic programs. Prescription drug bills ring a bell?.
But that's not my problem with you, you may disagree philosophically with me anyway and to any amount as you wish.
But when you SAY, that due to my difference of beliefs I deserve to be executed and indefinitely imprisoned... you lose all your credibility as you display such a massive disrespect for human rights.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
You just hide yourself in a cloud of self deluded superior morality when you try to forward those programs and beneficial to the population. Which you immediately lose when you suggest such totalitarian concepts as summary executions.
What you fail to realize, is that the other side of the argument wants the exact same goals as you... improve living conditions for everyone. They just have different ways, to reach that goal.
And yet you rather execute them.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@bluesrockfan36 I wish you can hear my laugh right now, you should be a fucking political comedian XD LMAO ROTF!!! Oh really? How does anti-abortion improve the standards of living? As well as denying emergency funds when natural diasaters hit? Or how about cutting funding to all the programs that improve the standards of living such as healthcare & the police force? Damn right I want to execute those souless beings who want to create $1 a day jobs overseas. Whats next from your mouth? XD!!!
Bronzecop 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
There is simply not enough space to correct your misconceptions.
I'm not even going to get on the abortion argument, since it's pointless and insignificant in comparison to summary executions and indefinite detention.
As for FEMA, tell me how did we survived as a nation before 1979?. Why don't you go read on how bad FEMA operates and how hard it is to actually provide help to those who need... why don't you go read on how they stop the Red Cross from assisting people?.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
But given your obscene prejudice, It would be pointless to try and explain you the problem with socialized insurance.
I'll make it simple, if you can't get insurance (since companies wont provide) in a dangerous area (hurracaine-prone) coast for instance... instead of building your house in a safer area, the government steps in and automatically insures your home.
Do you realize how absurd that is?.
That's how FEMA operates.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
I'm not sure why you adhere so much to the prejudiced left vs right paradigm. It's simply not true. Are you saying Bush spent too LITTLE money?. Do you even know how he started the TARP issues, expanded the department of education, almost doubled it actually with no child left behind, the prescription drug program which costed us over a trillion dollars.
Are you saying he was a 'good' president?. How deluded you are.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
What's even more staggering is your lack of understanding on economic matters, I strongly suggest you start reading books on the diverse theories available.
What makes you *think* for a second that both republicans and democrats don't contribute to the '1 $ day jobs overseas'?.
I'm glad you find the subject of assassinating your fellow U.S citizens without trail nor evidence funny or amusing, maybe after all we deserve to live in a country that institutes that.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@bluesrockfan36 You really need some help playing devil's advocate. Also you still suck at playing politics, epic fail on trying to conivnce me that government shouldn't "Human Development Programs". The Federal Order treats me better than my "certain" fellow citizens that view me as less than human. So why would I want to help them when they are absolutely against me? Now what was the point of telling me a quote from a coward.
Bronzecop 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
Would you believe me if I told you, I'm honestly not 'playing politics', but instead I'm seriously concerned what will happen if we destroy our bill of rights?.
There is one rather large fallacy you're committing though, trying to separate the 'federal order' from your 'fellow citizen'... such thing does not exist.
The government IS your fellow citizen, it's the collective will of your fellow citizen actually forced into the dissenting minority.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
The government has no power, no production, no money... it all comes *from* your fellow citizen.
Why would I view you less than human, if I'm trying to save your human rights?.
Anyways, that quotation was not from a coward, but from an apathic individual even an approving one, like you.
Once you start approving persecution, violence is the result.
What will you do, once the 'other party' comes into power and have those absurd unconstitutional powers?.
Will you protest then?.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@bluesrockfan36 When you say we, I hope you mean the people who lean right that vote for such nut cases into power; then yes I'm as concerned as you. Yes, the people are the foundation of the country, but those who vote for individuals that neglect the human life dont undrstand that. I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the cattle who treat me horrible over appearance. True, I do dislike the NDAA but the only thing I can do now is to help make sure it doesnt fall into the wrong hands.
Bronzecop 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
That's Obama's argument (that he wont use it), but truth is, statistically there's a very high chance given the condition of the economy, that we'll end up with a neo-con Republican, then we're all screwed.
Do you want Michelle Bachman to be able to decide who to kill and make 'disappear'?.
It's sad, but if we lose our Bill of Rights, it's the death of our Republic.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@bluesrockfan36 Well...If we fail to prevent that, you're more than welcome to come with me to Norway until things cool down.
Bronzecop 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
Lol!.
It'll be sad though, the greatest social experiment mankind ever attempted, freedom to it's individuals, destroyed in the country that started it.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@bluesrockfan36 Its pitiful how certain people cannot get over appearances, even to this day.
Bronzecop 2 months ago
@Bronzecop
Next from my mouth will be the words of a pastor Martin Niemöller in Germany (I'm not religious btw), about the Nazi rise to power:
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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jcrongoXisXaXjerk 2 months ago
@lambofreak55 Very well said and spot fucking on. The Paul folks are knee jerk reactionaries anytime a story about Paul and what was written in his name (and he profited from). Honestly, as someone who doesn't give a shit about Paul, or anyone running 2012, some of his supporters (many here on YT) are like a cult devoted to the man..... and a fucking politician at that. It was sick when the Obama people did it in '08, and it's just as creepy now. A lot of these people are not rational. At all.
jschultzVII 2 months ago
you would make a terrible lawyer. she said, he said. and all unprovable here say. you take this like it's fact and incontrovertible evidence, 'tis not, good uygur, for you are bold, you have stumbled into a pit of misinformation.
KlingonSpider 2 months ago
cenk your doing again. your being dumb and obnoxious.
KlingonSpider 2 months ago
TURK
GPunktmod 2 months ago
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The only people in America that don't want Ron Paul to become President are the Jews. It is now clear who the real enemy of America truly is. As the Roman statesman "Cicero" looked on as his great country was crumbling down around him, he set out to understand the cause of the destruction of his beloved country Rome and concluded it to be the work of the "Enemy Within". Those who are subverting and distorting the truth about RON PAUL and his message of LIBERTY and FREEDOM are the "Enemy Within".
HiawathaMohawk 2 months ago
a guy who likes being fucked up the ass and goes on to stand up for gay rights might be a minor hero..
but a guy who finds the whole thing so sickenning that he acts like ron paul... but still stands up for their rights is a true libertarian ...that puts some liberals to shame..
suziecreamchease 2 months ago
@suziecreamchease But he isnt standing up for the rights of gay people... he thinks churches should be allowed to "choose" if they want to marry "certain people". That is simply naive, yes a few churches would but the majority would not. It would mean that for the exact same wedding, gay people would have to pay so much more just to be able to get to the places that do allow gay marriage. They can already do that... Hawaii... Britain... many places allow gay marriage.
CraigMetalHead 2 months ago
@CraigMetalHead
You are confusing rights with privilege - inconvenience with oppression.
It is every bit as silly and pathetic to imagine that anyone has a god given right to turn up and demand what you want from any church regardless of its individual ethos as it is to go into someone else's bedroom to tell any number of consenting adults what they are allowed to do. I do not believe that being born gay means being born so crippled that you cannot maybe set up your own church..
suziecreamchease 2 months ago
@suziecreamchease No, theres no such thing as "God" so there are no "God given rights"... BUT if a gay couple buy into it and want to get married they should be able to. Churches dont like it? Pay taxes. I dont think marriage should even be a thing... but as it is, people shouldnt be excluded from it for the circumstances of which they were born.
Ron Paul is only using this because he KNOWS most Churches wont allow it, he is a coward and a bigot.
CraigMetalHead 2 months ago
@CraigMetalHead
altho we both disagree with much of what ron paul says, if we both agree that there is no god - then maybe we then thus both also agree with ron paul that each of us is our own sovereign person not obliged provide any service to anyone else - which means individuals in a church can choose whether or not to grant a mariage. (it would also follow that a woman has the right to terminate pregnancy).
Other/real issue is government representing all of us must treat us all equally
suziecreamchease 2 months ago
@suziecreamchease Wrong! Go to Ron Paul Website and read about his support of the Sanctity of Life Act and the We the People Act!
jesushatesyoutoo 2 months ago
@suziecreamchease Well, except Ron Paul doesnt support a womans choice. He has made that abundantly clear, he thinks letting the state decide what a woman can do with her womb is not fascistic but telling them they have a choice IS... weird huh?
He is full of contradictions and I dont like liars, hypocrites, cheats or murderers so you can see why I dont like Ron Paul.
CraigMetalHead 2 months ago
@CraigMetalHead
I don't understand your argument against Ron Paul's abortion ideology. He firmly opposes it personally, so do many other people on a simple principle of human rights for a viable fetus. But..
He understands there is no palace to *impose* your beliefs in a democratic government, so he refers to the states as mandated by the law (constitution)
How is that fascistic, liar or hypocritical?. At best, it speaks highly of someone willing to follow the law, against his own convictions
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@bluesrockfan36 State controlling the actions and choices of the public... Hmm, I wonder how is that Fascistic... HMM?!
He says he is for smaller government... so then why is it okay to let banks and corporations run rampant but women cant decide for themselves? Thats a lie and its hypocritical... claiming you are for small government and removing government from private lives, then having the government involved in a VERY personal and difficult choice.
CraigMetalHead 2 months ago
@CraigMetalHead
All forms of government to one extent or another control the choices of the public. If you kill someone, you get arrested, de facto 'controlling your choice'.
The subject cannot be purely approached from a woman's point of view, legally a viable fetus has rights as well. If you kill one in an accident you go to jail under manslaughter.
Ron Paul's advocating for the criminality/legality of abortion, same as any other issue... let them be dealt state wise.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@bluesrockfan36
You conflate what the US law says with considering for oneself what might be right. This seems to a problem of USA where you bow down & worship constitution rather than taking proper adult responsibility for thinking yourself what is best in the real world now.
Belief in god or what the law says about a fetus is dangerous step removed the real issues that a woman needs to be allowed to make for herself about her own powers and what she considers to be her own responsibilities.
suziecreamchease 2 months ago
@suziecreamchease
It's not really a 'constitution worship' positions, in fact I disagree with several constitution amendments. But the ones I endorse heavily, are the bill of rights. Once we compromise the principle that our rights come from our humanity, and attribute them to the government, then they become a commodity.
There is no advantage as a population or as an individual to whom the government has supreme authority over the masses.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago
@suziecreamchease
As for the abortion argument, it's not a religious belief but more of a logical belief. At certain point in the gestation of a fetus, harming or killing him would be considered murder. Where that point is exactly, I don't know.
But you can't say that a woman can abort a fetus a minute before birth, but if instead she decided to give birth and minute later kill the baby, she's charged with murder socially unopposed
The pro-abortion and the anti-abortion argument lacks logic.
bluesrockfan36 2 months ago