Hi - this has been referenced and attributed by the 'Epic Fugue: all things choral' page on Google+. Not able to post the URL here, but you should be able to search for it.
Did anyone else notice that a) the subject this piece is based on is a cluster of 3 eighth notes, then 2 eighth notes, then 1 eighth note, then 2 eighth notes, (3212) then repeat (3212321232123 etc) and b) that exact same rhythm is played by the xylophonist in 'Music for 18 Musicians'?
Brilliant!!!! I heard this for the forst time performed at a summercamp in the Jura, some twentyfive years ago. I just never realised it was an actual composition...
Man I am performing this for a music class. It's so crazy to clap the phasing part because it's literally a phase - the same pattern moved X number of eighth notes, where X is 1-11 throughout the piece. You get some crazy grooves established with the phasing part. I imagine the stationary part must be so zen hah
That's elitist. I don't have a degree in music, yet I can enjoy works like this. I don't think you have to have a degree in music to appreciate this. Brian Eno doesn't have a degree. Does that make him a 'ignorant fool' or a 'troll'? So apparently most people are just lower life forms than you and should 'go home' and hang their heads in shame......until they get a music degree. Whatever. Pretty fucking pompous dude.
Not bad. I still feel that the tempo was slightly fast, and I'm not sure the multidirectional microphones helped. In general, percussion usually does better without artificial amplification unless absolutely necessary.
Screw the nay-sayers, the ignorant fools, and the youtube trolls!! This was a great performance, a fantastic recital, and Clapping Music is a helluva piece of music. Most of you are probably to stupid and shallow to understand minimalism and phasing. Then again, most of you are probably trolls and don't have anything close to a degree in music. Go home!!! Great job to Justin Stolarik!!!
people can pretend like this is not boring. But think about it. What would you rather be doing...going to the cinema, on holiday or shopping for everything you've always wanted with your best friends? or listen to a load of mathematical music that has no emotion? The people who give this a thumbs down ...well, i know you inside out already.
The best piece by Steve Reich was the Electric Counterpoint.
i would rather listen to a load of mathematical music that has no emotion. shopping for everything i have always wanted with best friends? i'd rather be doing about anything else.
I study this piece now with a group and performing it live in March..really nice piece of minimalistic work and good imagination of the pattern of the 2nd performer going back 1/8 each bar :) really nice compotition
I think it might actually be a lot more interesting to listen to if the two sounds were more distinct. Shifting rhythms of something you can discern, rather than two bluring into each other.
This isn't supposed to be a great piece. I saw him twice in the '70s, and he began the show with "Clapping" and a short explanation, to give the audience insight into the evening's show. More like a lesson than an opus.
Playing "Clapping Music" can be boring for the person not changing. The way to make it fun for both is for both to change. One adds an eighth note on one line to make the change, and the next change is made by the other person, who subtracts an eighth note on one line.
I had to perform this piece for a music class I took. You really have to concentrate and pay attention to your partner or else it'll fall apart. Plus, it really hurts after a while!
I heard that one of the guys was a bit faster than the other... it actually sounds like polyrhythm - like more than 2 people are clapping. Steve Reich was a genius with this particular piece
Spijt me cleac, maar het is al voorbij. De evenement nam plaats op verschillende plaatsen in Amsterdam. Meeste waren in het Muziek Gebouw aan 't IJ en deze, "Clapping music", was gratis, maar jammer genoeg kon ik het niet halen, maar wel naar de "Orgel park" naast de Vondelpark voor Steve Reich's "Four Organs" en een Phillip Glass' "Contrary Motions" Amazing!!!!
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First off, to whoever said this is really difficult to perform, it's clearly not. Secondly, while I admit the rythmn's are very good this in itself does not constitute a piece of music. It's like any good drummer playing a three minute solo and saying its high art.
Really, try telling that to the person clapping the first non-changing rhythm. Believe it or not I'm a big Steve Reich fan but this piece of music is nothing special
i also agree. Though i use this as a warm up for drums and the different parts will be for the different hands and it gets confusing though its an amazing warm up =)
Having a complex part doesn't make music any more or less special. Two of the cellos in Part's "Fratres for 12 cellos" just hold a sustained open 5th throughout. In fact when the cellos of the Berlin Philharmonic got the scores before the famous ECM recording one of them said "Where's the music?"
Yea!! They're performing this piece at the minimalist festival in april here in amsterdam.... my girfriend and i can't wait to go :) They're actually holding auditions and anyone who can count metre, hold a beat and read sheet music can apply : P
Interesting how the response of so many to something they don't understand is "crap". I just love this piece - especially because the base rhythm is so simple. The syncopation by shifting the second performer just sounds awesome!
Well done to the performers as this is REALLY difficult to perform well!
i love clapping music...do you have a video and/or audio recording of marimba phase? i've heard it on piano, but would LOVE to hear a marimba version!!!
i love music, i really do. and it hurts me so much to not agree with everyone on here. Can someone please help me to understand this? is there supposed to be melody? or is it just a complicated rhythm?
They start out clapping the same rhythm, and then after every 8 or 12 bars one of them shifts the rhythm by an eighth note to the left, while the other claps the same rhythm throughout.
It creates an interesting polyrhythmic effect and eventually, after shifting enough, they get back in unison.
the point is that no, this piece isn't supposed to have melody in the way you're thinking and yes, it is supposed to be a 'complicated rhythm.' learn about phasing.
@randomae It's like a percussive counterpoint. The "melody" come from the difference between the ostinato and the other player(s). It's not complicated in itself but you have to focus hard to play it. That's interesting to play and to hear. A lot of "pieces" in the world are percussive. That does not mean it's crap.
Two people clap the 6/8 rhythm |ccc-cc-c-cc-| ("c" = clap, "-" = space).
One person keeps the pattern constant while the other drops the last clap and space (c-)every 6 repetitions of the pattern.
Because you drop one sixth of a six beat rhythm each repetition, the two clappers go out of sync by one beat each time - creating the complex cross-patterns.
After dropping the beat six times, the two clappers come back in sync and the piece ends - easy :)
i know a guy who can do both rythms with his hands, of course not clapping but tick it on a table, cause what the rythm is, is that one man does this rythm all the time and the other man does that same rythm 4 or 5 times and than he does it one second later, that 4 times so after a while they are together again. =]
difficult hea:D but i did it once so i understand, do you?
I can play the piano phase..well...singlehandedly, but man, this is way too complicated because it requires you to count the spaces which the notes are apart from each other O_o
hihi, well when you practice alot it aint tht hard, well singlehand, but both at the same time...when i saw it i was like *** O_o
i'll give you a tip, when you don't want to die from frustration and your brains colapsing, DO NOT TRY IT WITH BOTH HANDS! onehandy is allready hard, but you gotta ask someone to join you, it is really cool if you can do it =D
absolutely amazing! we listened to part of it in music class and i thought it was so good!!! would love to learn it, but it would take a lot of determination and perseverence.
The music was great but the actual performance was boring.
SuperTomanator 1 week ago
We attempted this in school but it never got past one beat shift
hunnybunny118D 3 weeks ago
Hi - this has been referenced and attributed by the 'Epic Fugue: all things choral' page on Google+. Not able to post the URL here, but you should be able to search for it.
rogerjhenry 1 month ago
Did anyone else notice that a) the subject this piece is based on is a cluster of 3 eighth notes, then 2 eighth notes, then 1 eighth note, then 2 eighth notes, (3212) then repeat (3212321232123 etc) and b) that exact same rhythm is played by the xylophonist in 'Music for 18 Musicians'?
colourfulwithaU 3 months ago
@colourfulwithaU That cell is a very widely used rhythm- it comes from an African 12/8 bell pattern
thaiguy20fromla 2 months ago
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You learn something new every day. Thanks!
colourfulwithaU 2 months ago
This is true awesome.
swedish1muffin 3 months ago
Brilliant!!!! I heard this for the forst time performed at a summercamp in the Jura, some twentyfive years ago. I just never realised it was an actual composition...
pjcvdpol 7 months ago
Brilliant!!!!
pjcvdpol 7 months ago
Man I am performing this for a music class. It's so crazy to clap the phasing part because it's literally a phase - the same pattern moved X number of eighth notes, where X is 1-11 throughout the piece. You get some crazy grooves established with the phasing part. I imagine the stationary part must be so zen hah
KindOfMaroon 9 months ago
"Clapping Music (1972) was Steve Reich's attempt to write a piece of music "
A bit harsh don't you think? Oh..wait... *presses show more*
supranator 9 months ago 19
Your hands must get really tired after a while.... mine sure did when I tried it at camp.
coolguy9610 10 months ago
sweet improvisation from the audience
Brycey97 10 months ago 3
this piece is for record
kuromomo00 11 months ago
I just noticed this was done in Bates Hall in the School of Music, College of Fine Arts, Univ. of Texas at Austin.
jenn976 11 months ago 4
@jenn976 Correct!
datimpster 11 months ago
Awesome!!!!!
JoshieChavira1 11 months ago
@mu4990
That's elitist. I don't have a degree in music, yet I can enjoy works like this. I don't think you have to have a degree in music to appreciate this. Brian Eno doesn't have a degree. Does that make him a 'ignorant fool' or a 'troll'? So apparently most people are just lower life forms than you and should 'go home' and hang their heads in shame......until they get a music degree. Whatever. Pretty fucking pompous dude.
Ghoopty 1 year ago 4
Not bad. I still feel that the tempo was slightly fast, and I'm not sure the multidirectional microphones helped. In general, percussion usually does better without artificial amplification unless absolutely necessary.
writersblock26 1 year ago
Anderson looks so young.
writersblock26 1 year ago
Screw the nay-sayers, the ignorant fools, and the youtube trolls!! This was a great performance, a fantastic recital, and Clapping Music is a helluva piece of music. Most of you are probably to stupid and shallow to understand minimalism and phasing. Then again, most of you are probably trolls and don't have anything close to a degree in music. Go home!!! Great job to Justin Stolarik!!!
mu4990 1 year ago
more like crapping music tbf tbh
frjackhacket 1 year ago
I always felt it was written for more than 2. Nice rendition though.
Dogbandit 1 year ago 2
Simple and cool
paulug 1 year ago
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BORING!
30Raphi 1 year ago
lol, let's do this for chambermusic xD
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MiguelKertsman 1 year ago
i bet the audience wasn't there
ZoGon2940 1 year ago
que Wueva
ramosvibes 1 year ago
so which one has gonorrhea?
formaldehyde28 1 year ago
wat
AltfanKG123 1 year ago
Rubik!
Akordelove 1 year ago
The fun of this is trying to anticipate what the effect is going to change to.
I don't think you can listen to this passively
DarkwingScooter 1 year ago
people can pretend like this is not boring. But think about it. What would you rather be doing...going to the cinema, on holiday or shopping for everything you've always wanted with your best friends? or listen to a load of mathematical music that has no emotion? The people who give this a thumbs down ...well, i know you inside out already.
The best piece by Steve Reich was the Electric Counterpoint.
burtv1610 1 year ago
You know me inside out?
Heh.
Right.
I can have no respect to your statement with that element in it.
Hyardacil 1 year ago 3
i would rather listen to a load of mathematical music that has no emotion. shopping for everything i have always wanted with best friends? i'd rather be doing about anything else.
XTruthAndHonorX 1 year ago
@burtv1610 Different Trains > Electric Counterpoint
cybertooth49 1 year ago
I study this piece now with a group and performing it live in March..really nice piece of minimalistic work and good imagination of the pattern of the 2nd performer going back 1/8 each bar :) really nice compotition
FrancescoFerosa 2 years ago
I suppose it must be very difficult for the one who changes to keep the tempo! well done
Rinhos 2 years ago
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really dumb. this sucked so much cock
Lord13yr0n 2 years ago
I think it might actually be a lot more interesting to listen to if the two sounds were more distinct. Shifting rhythms of something you can discern, rather than two bluring into each other.
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boring
patrickloiseleur 2 years ago
This isn't supposed to be a great piece. I saw him twice in the '70s, and he began the show with "Clapping" and a short explanation, to give the audience insight into the evening's show. More like a lesson than an opus.
Playing "Clapping Music" can be boring for the person not changing. The way to make it fun for both is for both to change. One adds an eighth note on one line to make the change, and the next change is made by the other person, who subtracts an eighth note on one line.
vetegr77 2 years ago 4
I had to perform this piece in my music lesson, too : it's really difficult ;)
02drea01 2 years ago 3
I had to perform this piece for a music class I took. You really have to concentrate and pay attention to your partner or else it'll fall apart. Plus, it really hurts after a while!
zangderak 2 years ago 5
I heard that one of the guys was a bit faster than the other... it actually sounds like polyrhythm - like more than 2 people are clapping. Steve Reich was a genius with this particular piece
Marmalade000000 2 years ago 6
Thanks so much for posting this and all the best for you!
Inge
sayeyes 2 years ago
I remember the first time I heard this. It was such an impressive experience
bitachar 2 years ago 2
My favorite variation on this idea is the "Hands and Feet" segment of the live "STOMP" show.
har9020 2 years ago
OMG... So simple, yet so complex.
idontcare2622 2 years ago
i like crash test deity,
good work......
tmcfarland1 2 years ago
Spijt me cleac, maar het is al voorbij. De evenement nam plaats op verschillende plaatsen in Amsterdam. Meeste waren in het Muziek Gebouw aan 't IJ en deze, "Clapping music", was gratis, maar jammer genoeg kon ik het niet halen, maar wel naar de "Orgel park" naast de Vondelpark voor Steve Reich's "Four Organs" en een Phillip Glass' "Contrary Motions" Amazing!!!!
crashtestdeity 2 years ago
Zoek op youtube even naar mijn kanaal, xxypsilonxx, daar kun je de uitvoering zien die buiten het muziekgebouw aan het ij werd uitgevoerd.
xxypsilonxx 2 years ago
heee bedankt! Was blijkbaar niet de beste uitvoering, maar ja dat is te begrijpen met zoveel mensen. Geweldig Ligetl playlist trouwens!
crashtestdeity 2 years ago
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First off, to whoever said this is really difficult to perform, it's clearly not. Secondly, while I admit the rythmn's are very good this in itself does not constitute a piece of music. It's like any good drummer playing a three minute solo and saying its high art.
Stoopchow 2 years ago
its difficult to listen to another part and play your own rhythmically distinct part, especially with no tone to follow
gold4r 2 years ago 2
Really, try telling that to the person clapping the first non-changing rhythm. Believe it or not I'm a big Steve Reich fan but this piece of music is nothing special
Stoopchow 2 years ago
Yeah it's kinda neat but not particularly difficult or moving in any way.
oatboy 2 years ago
I agree 100%
DLoc0 2 years ago
i also agree. Though i use this as a warm up for drums and the different parts will be for the different hands and it gets confusing though its an amazing warm up =)
JordisonFan 2 years ago
Just try joining up with a friend and see how hard it really is.
It ain't easy.
Pasta0fMuppets 2 years ago 13
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I've done it. The fact that I can do it despite no classical training in percussion says a lot.
oatboy 2 years ago
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Of course you don't need classical training in percussion, it's just clapping.
Did you play the part that changes every 12 bars?
Pasta0fMuppets 2 years ago
Perhaps you'd be so kind as to post a video of you and a friend doing it then....
snafu1030 2 years ago 4
You've had plenty of classical training non the less. Why would percussion or any other discipline be beyond your abilities?
pleximold 2 years ago
@Pasta0fMuppets Yes it is.
CaraminTim 1 month ago
Having a complex part doesn't make music any more or less special. Two of the cellos in Part's "Fratres for 12 cellos" just hold a sustained open 5th throughout. In fact when the cellos of the Berlin Philharmonic got the scores before the famous ECM recording one of them said "Where's the music?"
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toddulus 2 years ago
NOW I KNOW WHY MOZART IS GREAT!!!!
vitovito1234 2 years ago
You needed someone else to make you sure?
I have to laugh at people who can't understand this kind of music,yet put soo much (-)energy(+) in to it...
How it irritates them that they can't understand it.
Like those who scoffed at Beethovens Große Fuge,
like those who mocked Charles Ives style,
like those who rumbled at Stravinsky's Le sacre du printemps,
like those who laughed at Cage's soundscapes,
like those who booed Reich's Four organs...
Yet they all end up being...the real Heroes!
crashtestdeity 2 years ago 8
@vitovito1234 Oh yeah you probably only know mozart.
Cthulhussama 10 months ago
vaffanculo!!!!!!
vitovito1234 2 years ago
Yea!! They're performing this piece at the minimalist festival in april here in amsterdam.... my girfriend and i can't wait to go :) They're actually holding auditions and anyone who can count metre, hold a beat and read sheet music can apply : P
crashtestdeity 2 years ago 2
This has me movin and groovin!
clap cla-clap clap cla-clap!!!
celestefusion 2 years ago
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STUPIDITY!!!!i FEEL SORRY FOR rEICH AND THOSE WHO LIKE HIM!!!! dEFINATELY, HE HAS NOTHING TO SAY!!!!
vitovito1234 2 years ago
Omg! Awesome. Haha we watched this in our music lesson today. Youtube was unblocked!
cheekymonkey575 2 years ago
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wow boring as shit.
3510211 3 years ago
Aaah my brain just goes a little weird when hearing this. I love it.
bellowheadfan 3 years ago
Interesting how the response of so many to something they don't understand is "crap". I just love this piece - especially because the base rhythm is so simple. The syncopation by shifting the second performer just sounds awesome!
Well done to the performers as this is REALLY difficult to perform well!
rendition14 3 years ago 5
i bet the audience felt embarrassed about their low brow clapping at the end
forevermean 3 years ago 98
i love clapping music...do you have a video and/or audio recording of marimba phase? i've heard it on piano, but would LOVE to hear a marimba version!!!
dubya13207 3 years ago
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i fell asleep after 10 seconds
michael2009189 3 years ago
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xxxxFootballxxxx 3 years ago
Wait! The clapping at the end... is that part of the piece?
;)
viningsbee 3 years ago 4
awesome, this is how i applaud everything now
ieatcrayons822 3 years ago 80
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Haha
so funny. You really do?!
earlobe1997 5 months ago
We did it in music class and it's really hard to get it right and not to be confused by the other rhythm.
If your not convinced, why not try yourself? xD
TsukiDaian 3 years ago
I love Clapping Music. I've performed it live too, and it absolutely kills the shoulder muscles!
fourfingerfunk 3 years ago
steve reich is all about phasing.
AlasRobotMonkey0931 3 years ago
i love music, i really do. and it hurts me so much to not agree with everyone on here. Can someone please help me to understand this? is there supposed to be melody? or is it just a complicated rhythm?
im definately leaning toward calling this crap.
randomae 3 years ago
Read the info..
acrotomophilic 3 years ago
I did. I thought I was misunderstanding something.
randomae 3 years ago
just accept it for what it is homes
iamasoundfiend 3 years ago
They start out clapping the same rhythm, and then after every 8 or 12 bars one of them shifts the rhythm by an eighth note to the left, while the other claps the same rhythm throughout.
It creates an interesting polyrhythmic effect and eventually, after shifting enough, they get back in unison.
jordanspeizer 3 years ago 2
o__O
We had to do it in music.
Its friggin hard!
:@
AngelOfTheAirwavesX 3 years ago
Crap? more like Clap!
tsukasamacha 3 years ago 4
YAY!
satanicsquirrel01 3 years ago
My teacher always says thatonce hes finished playin it. He's like ' Wata oad of clap! ' XD XD XD
Yukonho72 3 years ago
keep listening to 'tiger lily' and calling this 'crap'. is like listening to my chemical romance and talking shit about karlheinz stockhausen.
SoulessDude 3 years ago
I never called anything crap. Go get a life and stop being so pointed.
randomae 3 years ago
idiot,
"im definately leaning toward calling this crap." that is word for word what you said.
defdeezy 3 years ago
I just needed some help to understand. You however need help on your personality. Go read a book or go clap your hands or something.
randomae 3 years ago
well, i'm not the one who blatantly dismissed something i don't understand.
i have done both, thanks for your concern.
defdeezy 3 years ago
If i dismissed it i would have never asked any questions.
Looks like you read that wrong.
randomae 3 years ago
this argument is worthless.
the point is that no, this piece isn't supposed to have melody in the way you're thinking and yes, it is supposed to be a 'complicated rhythm.' learn about phasing.
defdeezy 3 years ago
Thanks.
randomae 3 years ago
@randomae It's like a percussive counterpoint. The "melody" come from the difference between the ostinato and the other player(s). It's not complicated in itself but you have to focus hard to play it. That's interesting to play and to hear. A lot of "pieces" in the world are percussive. That does not mean it's crap.
Cthulhussama 10 months ago
That`s how minimal techno began.
dirtypleasures 3 years ago
a friend of mine and I are taking this peice to state music competition.
FreeWater9 3 years ago
ou yes, we have to learn this for school and i'm fucked up even as a drummer ^^
funny piece of music
Maddin667 3 years ago
That was supposed to be Bravo!
JeffreyBeanJr 3 years ago
ravo! I liked how you started the piece by clapping with the audience. It's a very difficult piece.
JeffreyBeanJr 3 years ago
So try it with a friend.
And god bless Steve Reich :)
rhythmicginger 3 years ago
It's actually quite easy to do.
Two people clap the 6/8 rhythm |ccc-cc-c-cc-| ("c" = clap, "-" = space).
One person keeps the pattern constant while the other drops the last clap and space (c-)every 6 repetitions of the pattern.
Because you drop one sixth of a six beat rhythm each repetition, the two clappers go out of sync by one beat each time - creating the complex cross-patterns.
After dropping the beat six times, the two clappers come back in sync and the piece ends - easy :)
rhythmicginger 3 years ago 6
and how it makes nice music:) simplicity :))
emdog2564 3 years ago
Amazing, that's all!
c0olmind 3 years ago
Great performance.
Tenorbot 3 years ago
i know a guy who can do both rythms with his hands, of course not clapping but tick it on a table, cause what the rythm is, is that one man does this rythm all the time and the other man does that same rythm 4 or 5 times and than he does it one second later, that 4 times so after a while they are together again. =]
difficult hea:D but i did it once so i understand, do you?
pienpo2008 3 years ago 4
now that's just fucking SICK.
I can play the piano phase..well...singlehandedly, but man, this is way too complicated because it requires you to count the spaces which the notes are apart from each other O_o
W4d5Y 3 years ago
hihi, well when you practice alot it aint tht hard, well singlehand, but both at the same time...when i saw it i was like *** O_o
i'll give you a tip, when you don't want to die from frustration and your brains colapsing, DO NOT TRY IT WITH BOTH HANDS! onehandy is allready hard, but you gotta ask someone to join you, it is really cool if you can do it =D
pienpo2008 3 years ago
My orchestra went on a trip to Salzburg and one of the orchestra members tried to teach us how to play this piece. It was fun :)
emilygclarinet 3 years ago 2
Wow. Great job.
It's harder than it looks.
lastdreams 3 years ago 2
Absolutely incredible! I tried to do this, it's so incredibly hard!
FizziLizzie 3 years ago 3
heard this first time today, glad to search and find this original tonite. sweet
vomitproject 3 years ago
awesome!
the audience probably had no idea what was going on hahaha
Darmikalus 3 years ago 4
absolutely amazing! we listened to part of it in music class and i thought it was so good!!! would love to learn it, but it would take a lot of determination and perseverence.
well executed, stunning!!!
drummachick93 3 years ago 3
It was for those below me... they didn't seem to know. no offense here ;)
Colderslave 3 years ago
That makes sense now! :)
datimpster 3 years ago
Steve Reich "composed" clapping music in 1972... the show wasn't in 1972 ;)
Colderslave 3 years ago
What do you mean? I know it was composed in 1972.
datimpster 3 years ago
Steve reich je vous le laisse .
lklkhjhjdfs 3 years ago
i think this deserves a round of applause :D
spencertron88 3 years ago 6
(groans) lol
satanicsquirrel01 3 years ago
ironic how they got applauded onto the stage to do an act of clapping.... LOL good tho
jtbeatbox 3 years ago 2
I like how you started the piece off of the applause from the audience. Cool ideas, keep them coming!
tubafatness 3 years ago
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Who is this YOU you're talking about? Moron
ELkuken 3 years ago
aah..the SONG is from the 70s i get it
pillywright 4 years ago
those speakers look newer than the 70s
the stands too
pillywright 4 years ago
now thats clapping!
gearysveggies 4 years ago
Yep Definitely 1970's
I liked it, However it was somewhat boring.
promagic 4 years ago