Poor a very hot cup of tea on the lap of a Buddhist and you will soon see just how non-serious they are about life. Get real, people, life is war, and power rules the world. THIS IS NATURE! This is not something to be sad about, it should be embraced.
@NIETZSCHEAN14 You're talking about an instinctive reaction
This video is about going beyond psychological fear and becoming the love that you are seeking...and enjoying life as a game.
Power is sought out of a psychological need for love.
Try loving yourself and the pursuit of power over others becmes irrelevant. You might do it for fun, but it won't be a psychological need. Also, seeing others as an extension of yourself would make the need to control them pointless.
@NIETZSCHEAN14 I don't disagree with you. you've stated that life is war--a very loaded word implying conflict and aggression and death.
the point of the video is that life can be a game.
alan watts is addressing religious types who are holding on to the idea of heaven. you're talking about holding on to the belief that power over others will liberate you.
@sd62t833. Not just power over others, but, more importantly, power over self. Nietzscheans call this self-overcoming, through the Will to Power. If by "game" you mean pleasurable, I agree with you. Thank you for sharing your ideas with me.
@sd62t833. I do not have a belief in a god. Man is not Being - man is Becoming. I understand the idea of the Tao, that one is all and all is one, but the one is MANIFEST in many becomings, all making up the Being of the one. Man is one of those becomings.
@NIETZSCHEAN14 You know; there's a big fight going on inside your bloodstream right now with micro-organisms chewing each other up. If that wasn't happening you wouldn't be healthy. In other words, what is discord at one level is harmony at another level. And perhaps to get overly fascinated with that battle going on in your bloodstream, or to take sides in it would be fatal.
@dukenotes. You said, "And perhaps to get overly fascinated with that battle going on in your bloodstream, or to take sides in it would be fatal." I do not understand what you mean with that statement. Please explain it to me. I understand and agree with the rest of what you said.
@NIETZSCHEAN14 These millions of operations taking place right now in our organism are either voluntary or they are involuntary. Either we have some sort of "omnipotence" in our own bodies, but have delegated the authority to "subordinate" organs, glands, etc. or it's totally involuntary and we have no choice in the matter. Breathing is obviously both voluntary/involuntary because we can take charge of how we breath, yet it goes on even when we don't think about it. But are we still in charge?
@NIETZSCHEAN14 I'll bite; what are the "laws" of nature? By the way, nice meeting you/talking with you. Funny thing I forgot to mention earlier is when you say that "life is war and we should embrace it" it sort of sounds like you don't think life is any more serious than Watts does, and it seems to me he's mostly asking questions and not making definitive statements. "Serious" to me is thinking things are tragic or possibly turning into a tragedy.
@NIETZSCHEAN14 In the 1900's Zen Monks/Buddhists were presented to the West as something like Nietzsche's "Supermen" who could put up with any pain, overcome any emotion, etc., but that's really not the point. It's true many were very tough ascetics and put their bodies through all sorts of deprivation. You can watch the Monk burning himself alive in South Vietnam and he looks as calm as can be 'til he drops dead, but most Buddhists have accepted the "middle way."
@NIETZSCHEAN14 Wrong! Life is partly war. You've used a metaphor that looks at only a portion of life. The other part is far more forgiving. Power rules but depending on definition, there are forms of power other than coercion, authority and expertise. There is also referent power, which basically means affection for another. To be more accurate, life is love and war.
Schools, as a branch of the state, has a vested interest in programming you to conform to societal roles. If people en-mass realize that really the government, society, law and order, etc, really only has a hold over as much as you let it, then they can't dictate your behavior, this scares the shit out of autocrats.
@Fayejealousy Holy shit could you imagine? Teaching kids to live as a game, not to be afraid, to be thier best self always? Instead of fear guilt shame and dogma?
I came on this myself.
God wants TV?
Donsknotts 6 months ago
should be fairly obvious if you read my comment a few times.
dingostar2620 9 months ago
@dingostar2620. This exchange is over.
NIETZSCHEAN14 9 months ago
Poor a very hot cup of tea on the lap of a Buddhist and you will soon see just how non-serious they are about life. Get real, people, life is war, and power rules the world. THIS IS NATURE! This is not something to be sad about, it should be embraced.
NIETZSCHEAN14 9 months ago 2
@NIETZSCHEAN14. Yes, I know, I did not spell it right (lol). POUR, not "poor". :o)
NIETZSCHEAN14 9 months ago 4
@NIETZSCHEAN14 wauw, just wauw !
dingostar2620 9 months ago
@dingostar2620. Thank you. :o)
NIETZSCHEAN14 9 months ago
@NIETZSCHEAN14 Thats like saying a rose is violent because it has thorns.
dingostar2620 9 months ago
@dingostar2620. What, EXACTLY, did I say that you disagree with, and what are your counter arguments against it?
NIETZSCHEAN14 9 months ago
@NIETZSCHEAN14 You're talking about an instinctive reaction
This video is about going beyond psychological fear and becoming the love that you are seeking...and enjoying life as a game.
Power is sought out of a psychological need for love.
Try loving yourself and the pursuit of power over others becmes irrelevant. You might do it for fun, but it won't be a psychological need. Also, seeing others as an extension of yourself would make the need to control them pointless.
sd62t833 9 months ago 5
@sd62t833. Again, what, EXACTLY, did I say that you disagree with, and what are your counter arguments against it?
NIETZSCHEAN14 9 months ago
@NIETZSCHEAN14 I don't disagree with you. you've stated that life is war--a very loaded word implying conflict and aggression and death.
the point of the video is that life can be a game.
alan watts is addressing religious types who are holding on to the idea of heaven. you're talking about holding on to the belief that power over others will liberate you.
sd62t833 9 months ago
@sd62t833. Not just power over others, but, more importantly, power over self. Nietzscheans call this self-overcoming, through the Will to Power. If by "game" you mean pleasurable, I agree with you. Thank you for sharing your ideas with me.
NIETZSCHEAN14 9 months ago
@NIETZSCHEAN14 well, the idea here is that there is nothing to overcome. you're already god.
sd62t833 9 months ago
@sd62t833. I do not have a belief in a god. Man is not Being - man is Becoming. I understand the idea of the Tao, that one is all and all is one, but the one is MANIFEST in many becomings, all making up the Being of the one. Man is one of those becomings.
NIETZSCHEAN14 9 months ago
@NIETZSCHEAN14 You know; there's a big fight going on inside your bloodstream right now with micro-organisms chewing each other up. If that wasn't happening you wouldn't be healthy. In other words, what is discord at one level is harmony at another level. And perhaps to get overly fascinated with that battle going on in your bloodstream, or to take sides in it would be fatal.
dukenotes 9 months ago
@dukenotes. You said, "And perhaps to get overly fascinated with that battle going on in your bloodstream, or to take sides in it would be fatal." I do not understand what you mean with that statement. Please explain it to me. I understand and agree with the rest of what you said.
NIETZSCHEAN14 9 months ago
@NIETZSCHEAN14 These millions of operations taking place right now in our organism are either voluntary or they are involuntary. Either we have some sort of "omnipotence" in our own bodies, but have delegated the authority to "subordinate" organs, glands, etc. or it's totally involuntary and we have no choice in the matter. Breathing is obviously both voluntary/involuntary because we can take charge of how we breath, yet it goes on even when we don't think about it. But are we still in charge?
dukenotes 8 months ago
@dukenotes. The laws of Nature control life - totally.
NIETZSCHEAN14 8 months ago
@NIETZSCHEAN14 I'll bite; what are the "laws" of nature? By the way, nice meeting you/talking with you. Funny thing I forgot to mention earlier is when you say that "life is war and we should embrace it" it sort of sounds like you don't think life is any more serious than Watts does, and it seems to me he's mostly asking questions and not making definitive statements. "Serious" to me is thinking things are tragic or possibly turning into a tragedy.
dukenotes 8 months ago
@NIETZSCHEAN14 In the 1900's Zen Monks/Buddhists were presented to the West as something like Nietzsche's "Supermen" who could put up with any pain, overcome any emotion, etc., but that's really not the point. It's true many were very tough ascetics and put their bodies through all sorts of deprivation. You can watch the Monk burning himself alive in South Vietnam and he looks as calm as can be 'til he drops dead, but most Buddhists have accepted the "middle way."
dukenotes 8 months ago
@dukenotes. Tough self-control deserves respect. Friedrich Nietzsche writes positively about some elements of Buddhism.
NIETZSCHEAN14 8 months ago
@NIETZSCHEAN14 Wrong! Life is partly war. You've used a metaphor that looks at only a portion of life. The other part is far more forgiving. Power rules but depending on definition, there are forms of power other than coercion, authority and expertise. There is also referent power, which basically means affection for another. To be more accurate, life is love and war.
tobo86 8 months ago
he is the best, love to listen to him, as always.
feb1865 9 months ago
Thank you "crazy" "crazy" man! What a fortune to meet a man like Watts! I wish so as soon as possible, it would be the death of my stupidity!
LeoVlora 10 months ago
I like his chuckle.
bigronnie1971 11 months ago 2
serious
Caligula138 1 year ago
I'd rather play a comedy than a drama :)
SincereCreature 1 year ago
0:38
It's a trap!
Menegoth 1 year ago 2
brilliant
selvmordspilot 1 year ago
GENIUS!!!
GeorgeGogle 1 year ago
Oh man, that last part killed me.
Froebs 1 year ago
Schools, as a branch of the state, has a vested interest in programming you to conform to societal roles. If people en-mass realize that really the government, society, law and order, etc, really only has a hold over as much as you let it, then they can't dictate your behavior, this scares the shit out of autocrats.
LordSathar 1 year ago
thanks so much, too bad more people have not seen it.
I wish our schools taught us what life is from an early age
Fayejealousy 1 year ago 2
@Fayejealousy: That would certainly solve a LOT of problems in our immature society
amarillo060291 1 year ago
@Fayejealousy Holy shit could you imagine? Teaching kids to live as a game, not to be afraid, to be thier best self always? Instead of fear guilt shame and dogma?
DELPHIIII 11 months ago