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  • Wheres pedo castaneda been? told you I was going to report him to the FBI and nevada police again.

  • loose changes debunks itself.

  • he never says he couldn't fly he just says he had no interest in landing. I never got why loose changed used this interview. It worked against the point they were trying to make?

  • YUP. Wah Wah Wah

    Guess I did more with MY life than yours. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

  • Cheezy fag boy? A member of the one of the gayest websites is calling someone a fag? No wonder you hide your greatness here on the internet and not show anyone the real you. Girl scouts? Freudian slip there?

  • @Zuel7272 He is a known troll. Used to be 5x5 instead of 5by5 He is a fucking paid retard. Its surprising they cant find somebody more intelligent to carry out this type of assignment. His purpose since he has absolutely zero in the way of knowledge, zero in the way of critical thinking skills and zero in the way of social interaction skills is to clog comment boards with anything that might make the casual observer think the cters are questionable Sexually frustrated he goes homebeats his wife

  • @izzysykopth Tony, AKA Merlin5x5/5by5 doesn't go home to the wife, she left him for a real man. He goes home and hires a dwarf prostitute by the name of Tiny Starr to service him. She suits him due to her diminutive size, (makes him feel almost like a man) and because she has slightly boyish features, (satisfies his gay urges). As for his knowledge of aircraft, this moron claimed that the planes were doing 500mph at near sea level which is the equivalent of Mach 1 at 30,000 feet, impossible!

  • @izzysykopth

    Well, GEEEZ, cheezy fag boy, don't pretend YOU have any more evidence than the rest of your empty handed, immature fucktard moron friends. YOU are just as DEVOID of education, Evidence, or Experience in anything 9/11 related as they are.

    IF YOU or YOURS had anything more, you would simply PRESS CHARGES.

    You don't, because any court, judge, international court, or even Girl scouts

    would reject your stupidity and you know it.

    TEST YOURSELF, press charges, and see if THAT lasts.

  • @Merlin5by5 In an net rep mgm boiler room known troll 5up5 types furiously while chained across a desk and bush and cheney have their way with their alter boy! Cheney chimes in "Keep typing sphincter boy or we will let the real freaks loose on you the priests!!!" LOL!!! The casual observer might not be aware but I am you treasonous douchebag! The entire legal system is run by the same traitorous douchebags. Soon you will only be thnkng about a glass of water on the rocks. Hold the brimstone!!LOL

  • @izzysykopth

    Really? Imagine how impotent Twoofers have to be to dream up the EVENTUAL embarassment of their debunker enemies, LOL.

    ONE DAY, I will be vindicated! They all squeal. Then they disappear into the trailer parks and die as anonymously as any other Turd.

    That's your future, there, conspiracy idiot.

  • "At the Pentagon, the pilot of the Boeing 757 did quite a feat of flying. I have 6,000 hours of flight time in Boeing 757’s and 767’s and could not have flown it the way the flight path was described." Commander Ralph Kolstad Retired fighter pilot. Former Air Combat Instructor, U.S. Navy Fighter Weapons School (Topgun). 20-year Navy career. Retired commercial airline captain with 27 years experience

    "Something stinks to high heaven!"

  • @archerace7

    PENTAGON, BOEINGS CAN"T BE FLOWN FAST AND LOW, LOL.

    aerospaceweb. org / question? / conspiracy / q0274. sht ml

    watch?v=xXXA-pRIQV8 * 727 announced speed 390 knots= 450 mph

    watch?v=9rZER-Qw3rE&feature=re­­lated * A310 400 mph, 50 feet high

    watch?v=9hBTYEMkEV4&feature=re­­lated * 747 450 mph, airshow

    watch?v=Dy1IPWQZqkM&feature=re­­lated : watch?v=cKRUGIjnEJI&NR=1 * 757

    THRUST-SSC CAR breaking sound barrier : watch?v=fmbH1ApUG8M

  • @Zuel7272

    Yeah, well I have certainly enjoyed proving that you are a brainless

    dick sucker of every conspiracy nutjob that's out there, and that you

    don't know aircraft, Jet engines, or how things actually work at the

    WTC and Pentagon attacks. See ya later, LOL.

  • @Zuel7272

    DID I mention that Two Jet engines, variants of the Rolls Royce airliner engine,

    powered the super-sonic CAR THRUST-SSC to 763 mph INCHES off the ground?

    Didn't seem to affect THEIR efficient operation.

    watch?v=-mgO1M3gyfI

  • @Merlin5by5 FFS Tony! You are such a douche. Was that an air-frame attached to the engines in THRUST-SSC? I don't think so. The car was designed to go supersonic at sea level. Maybe if you had EVER flown a plane you would know what the fuck you are talking about, as it is you are just a noisy fart!

  • @CalumGilhooly

    Actually, yes, it was an airframe attached to the engines in the THRUST-SSC,

    and the engines were a Ducted-Fan LESS version of the RB-211 from the 757.

    Didn't you look at the video the YOUTUBE video was based on?

  • @Merlin5by5 Hahaha, Really, it had a 767 airframe attached to it with wings and tailplane included? You are off your fucking chump mate. The Thrust car was DESIGNED to travel at mach 1 at sea level. Concorde was designed to fly at mach 1 at high altitude. Boeing 767s are not designed to fly at mach 1 AT ANY ALTITUDE! They might manage it in a dive at 20 or 30,000' but it:s not advisable. Please contactairlines that you have cited as flying fast and low and ask them the max speed at sea level.

  • @CalumGilhooly

    Actually, the THRUST SSC airframe was from a UK Tornado aircraft.

    It was picked out of a trash yard, simply because it had the basic shape, and was

    pre-built. The thrust car was built from aircraft frames because it had to be light

    and aerodynamic, Duhhhhhh. Concorde has many occasions of Mach 1 at

    lower altitude. NOTHING forbids it, except high fuel use.

    Them's just the facts, little faggot in a female account. LMAO, please contact

    terrorists, and ask if they obey limits

  • @Merlin5by5 Got to Love Tony's ad hominem attacks. Here we have a pathetic little man, (metaphorically speaking, he is probably 300lbs of ignorant lardass), "little faggot in a female account", WTF? That doesn't even make any sense. My account has nothing feminine about it at all and as for being a faggot, I'm not the one banging midget prostitutes with decidedly boyish features!

    Re the airframe. A tornado is not a 767 and is designed to fly at high mach speeds. MORON!

  • @CalumGilhooly

    LMAO, you are a totally worthless hillbilly who can't see conspiracy for what it is.

    An attempt to explain your own social ineptness and inadequacies.

    After all, if the ESTABLISHMENT is all wrong, it's NOT your fault you are regarded

    as a worthless nut on the periphery of everything in society, peace and war.

    It's THEIR fault. LMAO, Yeah Right.

  • @Merlin5by5 What the fuck are you dribbling about now Tony? I'm not a hillbilly, that would be someone from the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia or some other remote farming community in your US of A, not Scotland's largest city, you cretin. The word is ineptitude and you have no proof that I am either inept in what I do nor that I have inadequacies. On the other hand we have lots of evidence that you are totally inept at arguing your duhbunker case and are sexually inadequate. GIRFUY!

  • @CalumGilhooly

    OK, you are Scottish, a country where the men wear skirts, and suck british dick.

    I understand that now. TOO BAD. The University of Glasgow, and the University of

    Edinburgh are some of the best backers of NIST and FEMA there is.

    sciencedirect. co m/ science/ article/pii/ S0379711 203000699

    You seem to have a problem inside your own country being believed by engineers.

    Did you notice that?

  • @Merlin5by5 The Scottish Masons? LOL!! Just like the Jesuits at Purdue and Stanford Fordham Boston College and Note Dame that hide their comp models? Study with Catholics? Did you study penis puffing and rump riding with the Catholic young boy touchas' club too? As w slides his pathetic appendage in, 5up5 exclaims "Dont touch me there you're not my priest!" w retorts "No but I AM your inbred uncle now gyrate lotion boy!" Whose child did you sacrifice to get in? Your own? Your sister's?

  • @izzysykopth Merlins done more than touch up Catholics, just put "Anthony Castaneda merlin5x5" in google and search google for arrests in Las Vegas for Anthony Castaneda.

  • @whyohwhyfools I See your trying to start a whole new conspiracy.

    Twooffdumb is a dead duck so you attack a Vet with Flying Experience.

    All the Terror Pilots Flew (((actually crashed))) the jets like they were stolen.

    Im sure they had max power into targets.

    They were not concerned about Boeing Safety Manuel's in those final seconds.

    Stop making an Ass out of your mother and get a LIFE !!

  • @SkuIICrusherGhost I see you are following me around YouTube, this is too be expected , you do realise we know who you are? right? Expect a knock at the door sooner than you think Mr Unpatriotic jerk!

  • @whyohwhyfools ~~> PARANOID ASSHOLE !!

    Dont make me Laff.

    I Got better things to do than to Follow a NUTHIN-NOBODY Around !!

  • @SkuIICrusherGhost Stalking people again!

    I'll be suing you soon.

    See ya, SCUM.

  • @TheCrimsonsGhosts Nice False Accusation Dikweed, you Stalked me here i see.

    You'll be in a feema camp soon i betcha !!

    Keep it up Bottom Feeder.

  • @SkuIICrusherGhost You ain't got any kind of life and that's why you are on here 24/7. You stalking freakzoid!

  • @Merlin5by5 A Jesuit!!!! You are finished you diseased piece of shit! You know that 'you have been taught even to be a spy among your brethren' they are watching you dumbass! you are SUPPOSED TO 'keep secret all her agents secrets councils...' Looks like they will be coming for you now! LOL!!! Whats at the end of that oath? '...cut off my hands and feet my throat from ear to ear rip open your stomach and pour sulphur ...' enjoy your demise you stinking pathetic excuse for humanity. LOL!!!

  • @izzysykopth

    OH YEAH, A JESUIT STUDENT. LOL, and I can leap to the third floor by flapping my elbows, too.

    Not only that, but I can run sideways on walls, and make change with foreign currency.

    Super-powers just come with the ability to know that white southern trash

    hates the catholic church, and jesuits, because we helped end slavery.

    Must be hard to be related to so many cousins by marriage.

  • @Merlin5by5 I hate Jesuits because of their heinous crimes. Their perfidy is rampant throughout history. You pukes didnt end slavery only disguised it. Rome is the largest slave owner on the planet. Any historian can tell you that. So you must know it. You=epic fail. Your beloved Jesuits are nothing more than bloodthirsty child molesters, murderers beneath contempt. Your day is coming. SOON. The world is awakening. Seen the occupy the Vatican riots? They are coming for you too. LMFAO!!!

  • @izzysykopth

    YADA YADA YADA, you want to claim some heinous crimes? The Local police station stacks forms to press charges against anyone and anything, and to put your evidence on display.

    OF COURSE, if you can't prove anything, you pay court costs.

    TEST YOURSELF, and your own beliefs joker. The form to press charges

    consists of a single page, and it's free. Post the docket number when you

    do so, or we will just assume you are full of shit, Knucklehead.

  • @Merlin5by5 Better yet scumbag, how about you file slander and libel charges. See how far it gets you. Oh wait! They decided thats not a good idea after what happened to E Howard Hunt after Spotlight Magazine printed their article about his involvement in JFK! LOL!! Tony you are pathetic. Find a softer target douchebag you have been flattened like roadkill.

  • @Merlin5by5

    Really Skippy? You were arrested 3/10/11 for possession of child porn!! And your inmate number was 2799593. Is that why your wife left and took the kids?

    Besides being a liar and a fraud, you're a pervert, too.

  • @lmfecher

    Your other fantasy and delusion is JUST as stupid and unproven.

    My name is Anthony, but NOT castaneda. I am half hawaiian and Spanish.

    The FACT you can't distinguish FACT and fantasy from OTHER Twoofers,

    is what got you into the isolated, impotent status of a Twoofer in the

    FIRST place, LOL.

  • @Merlin5by5

    Of course you'll deny being a pervert, that's what pervs do. I suppose you'll deny paying Tiny Starr, a midget prostitute from Texas, for sex, too!

    You're a liar and a fraud, Tony.

  • @lmfecher

    YUP. I deny paying Tiny Starr, and even meeting her. Don't you get it yet?

    You have to filter Internet crap thru the basic bullshit filter, Little faggot.

    IF you believe your CRAP, just walk to a police station and PRESS CHARGES.

    The fact that you don't, pretty much shows even YOU don't believe your

    conspiracy crap. Bush's lawyers would take your money, and put you

    in jail for abusing the court system, and you know it.

  • @Merlin5by5

    LMAO! I saw your message to her on her blog, you lying pervert!! And the best part is, YOU CAN"T REMOVE IT! heheheh. And I don't have to press charges against you, Chester the Molester, the Las Vegas Police Dept already did that 3/10/11 when they arrested you for 10 counts of child porn.

    Give it up Tony, you've been outed for the lying, perverted fraud that you really are.

  • @lmfecher

    Wah Wah Wah. I don't need to remove it. I haven't been able to contact

    Anthony any more than you have, From Jonny Pitifuls own posts.

    Have you? Your link to the Las Vegas Police department doesn't

    even have any identification information to it. Could be another Anthony.

    Any group of 50 people or more will have two people with either

    identical names or birthdates. That's a well known party trick, and

    a math certainty.

  • @Merlin5by5

    LMAO!  It's YOU Anthony. You're the pervert loser who was arrested on 3/10/11 for 10 counts of child porn. It's YOU who lied about your military service. It's YOU who's wife left him and took the kids. It's YOU who lives in a trailer and collects welfare. Stop lying, Skippy, you've been outed.

  • @lmfecher

    NO, actually, it's NOT. I am half hawaiian, and have had my own company,

    a Nevada corporation, since 1996. Does that man look half hawaiian?

    And last time I looked, UNIX SYSTEM ARCHITECTS could afford a little

    better than a trailer. NOT to mention travel to near the Artic Circle and

    Point Radium. Try again, maybe you will get a little closer.

  • @Merlin5by5

    Yes Anthony, it is you. You do NOT own a company, you live in Las Vegas, in a trailer and you collect welfare. You were arrested on 3/10/11 on 10 counts of child porn. Not only are you a pervert, you lied about your military service. Remember when I said I'd see you go to jail under the Stolen Valor Act? What did you tell me? You said, "I helped write the Stolen Valor Act" which was yet another lie.

    You've lied so fucking much, you can't keep track of them.

  • @lmfecher

    SO, you are still sitting at home empty handed, right?

    Your evidence consists of nothing but websites and Internet rumors, Right?

    What's changed?

  • @Merlin5by5

    And you are still living in a trailer, collecting welfare with no wife and kids because she took them and left your ass. You are still sitting in your trailer, surfing the web for kiddie porn and midget hookers. You are still sitting in your trailer lying about your military service and parroting the official story of 9/11. You're a lying, perverted fraud who deserves to be swinging from the end of a rope.

  • @lmfecher

    LMAO, again, you are believing other short shits who can't find their asses.

    You should really try to filter you internet bullshit just a bit.

    It's gonna help you to be a little less gullible for what 9/11 Truth Liars tell

    you. Oh, and if I were sitting in a trailer, and / or in prison, why am I online

    and bitch slapping morons like you even now?

  • @Merlin5by5

    Bitch slapping? Hardly. I've exposed you for lying about your military service and saw with my own eyes that you were arrested on 10 counts of child porn on 3/10/11. You're sitting in your trailer right now, surfing the web for kiddie porn.

    Give it up, loser, you've been caught up in your own web of lies.

  • @lmfecher

    LMAO, you you proved what how? YOU are totally empty handed on THAT

    also, and you are believing in people who are dumber than you.

    YUP, you are a 9/11 Twoofer all right.

  • @Merlin5by5 I know what your uncle did to you, no excuse FannyBaws

  • @krs306

    I suppose Anthony Castaneda (aka Merlin5by5) is claiming that his uncle molested him as a child. If that's the case, he should have sought professional help instead of repeating the cycle of abuse. Two wrongs don't make a right.

  • @Merlin5by5

    Unix System Architects is based out of Cleveland, Ohio, yet you claim you work for them in Las Vegas!! Once again, my claim that you lie about everything is true.

  • @lmfecher

    UNIX System Architect is a job category, Dumbshit, not a company.

    YA KNOW, like you are a McDonalds Floor mop technician.

  • @Merlin5by5

    A job catagory? Really? Then why would you say that "Unix system architects" can afford a little better than a trailer? That statement IMPLIES that you work for them. But the truth is, you don't work. You live in a trailer in Las Vegas and you collect welfare.

    Keep on lying shit stain and dig your grave a little deeper.

    Haven't you got anything better to do like surf the web for more kiddie porn?

  • @lmfecher

    Because I am a Unix System Architect, Duhhh. That statement implies I am a

    unix system architect, not that I worked for a company NAMED that, LOL.

    Why don't you just go Google "Unix system architect job"?

    Simply hired websites lists 10343 jobs available. We are in high demand.

    Unlike Moronic Mechanic Bitch wannabes.

  • @Merlin5by5

    "Because I am a Unix System Architect, Duhhh"....

    LMAO! uh-huh, just like you're a Vietnam vet, a pilot, and all the other things you claim to be. You're lies know no bounds. In reality, you collect welfare, live in a trailer in Las Vegas, troll the internet for kiddie porn (you were arrested 3/10/11 on 10 counts of child porn), solicit midget hookers for sex (Tiny Starr), and you do it all alone since your wife left you and took your kids with her.

    You're such a loser.

  • @lmfecher

    I mean fella, you are only bitching about who I am because you can't support

    who YOU are, and / or a giant conspiracy with something as simple as a

    phone log, or an expense sheet, or a budget or a bank account.

    I mean, you ARE totally empty handed, and bitching on youtube because

    no one in the establishment will hand you the time of day, correct?

    Why haven't you PRESSED CHARGES? All your "Evidence" doesn't

    amount to a single thing you can present in court, does it?

  • @Merlin5by5

    "you can't support who YOU are"...

    I've never lied about or embellished my military service. You, on the other hand, lie about everything. You lied about your military service, lied about being in Vietnam, lied about your aircraft experience, lied about paying for sex with a midget hooker named Tiny Starr, lied about being arrested on 10 counts of kiddie porn, lied about living in a trailer and collecting welfare.

    ANTHONY CASTANEDA is nothing but a liar, a fraud and a pervert.

  • @lmfecher

    1. "You, on the other hand, lie about everything. "

    And what is your physical evidence for that? What do you have in your hands

    you can put on the table in front of us? Tell us, are you relying on Websites,

    and OTHER Internet Morons for that again? That would be kind of gullible.

    What a surprise.

  • @Merlin5by5 You are seriously getting your ass handed to you here from someone who has really been in the military. It's not been a good month for you has it. All these revelations. It's true, you are stuck in a web of lies and the bullshitometer is off the fucking scale.

  • @whyohwhyfools

    Doesn't seem like it to me. Just like this video shoots the ass on Hani Hanjour

    not being a pilot capable of flying his Pentagon Attack. YOU are Done.

    You can't even document where your ass is with both hands, LOL.

    I could train a gerbil to make your posts on youtube.

  • @Merlin5by5 You've had your ass handed and you know it, like i said, it's been a bad month for you Merl. You got a big sore ass from having it kicked so much.

  • @Merlin5by5

    Physical evidence? Let's review...

    Your age and your "years of military service" don't add up. The Army did not take you at age 16, like you claim.

    Your Linkedin profile and arrest record (10 counts of kiddie porn) matches.

    You left a message on Tiny Starrs' (midget hooker) website using the moniker MERLIN5x5.

    Like I said, loser, you LIE about everything.

  • @lmfecher

    LMAO, Websites and ignorant truthers galore.

    The US Army admitted people at 16 years, 5 months in 1972. Look it up.

    End of the draft, and needs of the service. They can do what they want.

    OH, did you see how the US NAVY encourages A&P certification for

    enlisted aircraft mechanics? They have done so ALL the way back to

    the 1990s, and their FORMAL link with the FAA was in 2003.

    Isn't that somewhere around your claimed service dates?

  • @Merlin5by5

    I did look it up, loser. You had to be 17 AND have parental permission before the Army would take you in '72.

    The Navy may encourage an A&P license now, but it wasn't a requirement when I was in from '86 - '92. ENCOURAGE and REQUIRE are two different things. Once again, you have failed miserably to discredit me or my HONORABLE service to my country.

    Give it a rest, loser and go do what you do best.....trolling for and downloading kiddie porn.

  • @lmfecher

    The 17 year old limit was posted in 1974, when women were included also.

    After the end of the draft in 1971 (The 72 lottery didn't take people), the age was

    dropped for 18 months, and I was a Military Brat, already out of high school.

    There are plenty of people here who joined at 16 before that.

    You mean, I didn't discredit you and your claims by simply pointing out you

    were supposedly working on 12 aircraft, including shore based jets,

    when MOST A&P mechanics only work on ONE?

  • @Merlin5by5

    You're a liar. I'm the same age as you are and your lies will not get by me. I not only looked it up, but I asked a few friends of mine who are REAL Vietnam vets if they knew ANYONE who was allowed to enlist at age 16 back in '72. You had to be 17 and have parental permission before the Army would take you.

    I was stationed at both sea going and shore based squadrons, shit stain, and I worked on several types of military aircraft.

    Stick with what you know pervert, kiddie porn.

  • @Merlin5by5 You were a "Military Brat"? Do you know how much of a faggot you look saying that?

  • @whyohwhyfools

    You mean as opposed to a pasty faced UK faggot filth that you represent?

  • @Merlin5by5 Better than being a child porn POS like YOU!!

  • @whyohwhyfools

    NOT according to the smell from your direction. Go brush your teeth at least.

  • @Merlin5by5 You're in Alaska LMAO!! Yeah, i get it, you're running from the law because you got caught with child porn, you POS!

  • @whyohwhyfools

    LMAO, I have passed Federal and Canadian security laws to get here.

    Virtually everything this far north is a US Federal facility under Canadian control.

    Including the OIL SANDS facilities which are near here. Government funding,

    Oil Company Operations personnel. Get a clue.

  • @Merlin5by5 LMAO!! Yet you are so busy, then why be trolling on at least 6 videos on YT??!!! LOL, this is pure comedy gold, even by your standards asshole.

  • @whyohwhyfools

    Replying to your verbal puke, of course. I answer emails all the time, even if

    it's the UK version of Jethro from the Beverly Hillbillies.

  • @Merlin5by5 Hey asshole!! How's Alaska?!!!! LOL, hahahaha in your dreams fucknut!

  • @Merlin5by5 "Nothing forbids it except fuel use" LMFAO!!!! You must be the dumbest troll on the planet. Concorde and 757's are like comparing a Porsche to a Volkswagon bus. Your proctologist called They found your head. They said schedule a shotgun enema and they will retrieve it for you! LOL!!

  • @izzysykopth

    FUEL Ratios don't change, Moron. More, denser air means you need more fuel

    to keep the ratio correct. DUHhhhhh <-Your national anthem.

  • @Merlin5by5 ANTHONY CASTANEDA YOU FUCKING COCK SUCKING CHILD PORN BROKE PIECE OF PUBLIC HOUSING ASSHOLE.

    WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY RAM TIMINGS YOU RETARDED COCK SUCKER?

    WHY THE FUCK DID YOU COMPARE A PENTIUM D TO A CORE i7 920 YOU RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT MOTHER FUCKING PEDO WORTHLESS ASSHOLE

    ANTHONY CASTANEDA STOP TROLLING YOUTUBE WITH LIES YOU PATHETIC CHILD PORN PIECE OF SHIT, YOU ARE BROKE AND LIVE IN PUBLIC HOUSING YOU FUCKIN SCUM BAG

    I SPIT ON YOUR FACE YOU LOW LIFE MAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT

  • @JonnyPitiful Seems Tony (5up) cant be bothered with this thread anymore. Im not sure if it was the severe bashing he received from the researchers on the thread or if it was social night at the young boy touchas' club! LOL!

  • @izzysykopth Mr Merlin is playing with the big boys now and he don't like it one bit, LOL! I've pulled MerFail up on numerous occasions and he flaps like seal cub. This time last year he said he had "people" working on a project and a presentation for the Heiwa challenge by Anders Bjorkman. If he would of come up with the goods he would of netted one million euros, thus far Merfail has produced jackshit, and he's full of shit PERIOD!!

  • @Merlin5by5 PS. Those aircraft flying fast and low that you cite were being flown by highly experienced, professional pilots, not some amateurs with ZERO FLYING TIME IN SUCH AIRCRAFT! Hitting the twin towers with a 767 has been likened to a car driver jumping into a 16 wheeler for the first time, cranking the throttle up to 150 mph and then speeding down a street and into a garage, just large enough to fit the truck, without even scratching the paintwork. FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE!

  • @CalumGilhooly

    No, actually, they were NOT being flown by experienced pilots.

    FAST LOW PASSES are performed by aircraft maintenance personnel.

    Thats how they check the engines when they don't have a working jig.

    BUT, if you want to see LOW FAST airliners blasting down runways,

    go ahead and search for it on youtube. There are plenty of examples.

    OR, simply walk into a Boeing simulator shop, and ask to do Touch

    N GO practice. They will dial it up for you.

  • @Merlin5by5 Sorry Tony, you didn't address the points I raised, as usual you sidestepped the issue. It doesn't matter whether they are maintenance personnel or pilots, they ARE experienced on those aircraft. The companies don't pick the lousiest pilots to do their tests, that would be absurd. I've seen plenty of fast and low passes but they were not doing anything like the 500+mph claimed for the planes that hit the towers. The analogy with the 16 wheeler was also ignored, very telling!

  • @CalumGilhooly

    LMAO, first you claim they are experienced pilots, then I point out the videos SAY

    expressly they are flown low and fast by maintenance pilots on their comment areas,

    and all that blast gets is, "It doesn't matter". Hell yes, it does. Once launched,

    all a pilot has to do is point the nose and advance the throttle. Hani Hanjour had

    40 hours of doing exactly that on Boeing simulators. When was the last time you

    spent 40 hours practicing anything?

  • @Merlin5by5 Jesus H Christ on a bike Tony, you are such a fucking moron! Did you study debate in kindergarten and fail the final? The point I made was that, whether the pilots are airline regulars, test pilots or maintenance personnel, they all have experience ACTUALLY FLYING THOSE AIRCRAFT! Not just a bit of time on a simulator and very low ability at actually flying ANYTHING, much less a 767. I spend 40 hours practising kicking you all around these boards and it's great fun, thanks. IDIOT!

  • @CalumGilhooly

    Jesus H Christ, insufferable bitch, you are SUCH a demonstratable MORON.

    I studied debate with Catholic Jesuits, as a matter of fact, how about you?

    NO, the point you were trying to make is that it took experienced pilots to fly

    low and fast, but it doesn't. That's plainly true from the videos online.

    That means you fail, and fail badly. Now you are twisting around

    trying to beg and bitch your way to another shot. That's not gonna work

    even in reality TV shows, lol.

  • @CalumGilhooly Once I saw him claim to have studied debate with Catholic Jesuits I knew he had been 'compromised' by his instructors. Its part of the Jesuit ritual. Probably had to participate in one of those pedophile snuff blackmail films as well. Must be why he is so angry at the world. He sold his soul and gave away his manhood for what false and fleeting power they imagine it gives them. He is becoming aware he missed out on life and will miss out on the afterlife. Ice water please! LOL!!!

  • @JonnyPitiful LOL Looks like Tony is spamming your comments.

  • @Zuel7272

    Absolutely, I WILL post snarky remarks after you leave.

    Now go off and lick your wounds in the peace and quiet of stupidville.

  • @Zuel7272

    AND, in case you are unaware, there are many WW2 PROP aircraft that

    have gone super-sonic during air combat, including the P-51 Mustang,

    the P-38 Lightning, and the F-4u Corsair. That's what happens when

    you dive, and gravity is a bitch for you.

  • @Zuel7272

    Actually, dumbshit, sub-sonic aircraft have gone supersonic several times,

    including AIRLINERS, and usually at the end of long shallow dives.

    In fact, it used to be a regular part of testing aircraft body building.

    The FIRST commercial Jet, the DC-8 went supersonic in 1961.

    ORIGINAL DC-8 BROKE SOUND BARRIER in 1961

    dc8. org/ library/ supersonic / index. php

    BOEING 747, BROKE SOUND BARRIER

    aviation-safety. net / database / record. php?id=19850219-0

  • @Merlin5by5 Did those airliners that broke the sound barrier do it at near sea level? I bet the fuck not Tony, you spunkstain!

  • @CalumGilhooly

    No, but they COULD, Dumbshit. There is no speed limit to a deliberately

    crashed airliner. AMAZINGLY, Suicide Terrorists decided to ignore safe flight

    guidelines. Why, it's like they were suicidal or something.

    Say, does being an ignorant cum bucket for dogs and cattle reward you somehow?

    I can't imagine being as cruddy, ignorant, and ill educated as you.

    YUCK, LOL.

  • @Merlin5by5 Listen to yourself Tony! You sound positively retarded. There is no speed limit to a deliberately crashed aircraft? Hahahahahaha. There sure as fuck is if you want to aim it at a narrow sky scraper and hit it first time. What the WTC pilots did was miraculous flying. Was Allah guiding their hands? Is their sky fairy cult the one true religion? Say, does being a socially inept pile of shit shill who fucks midgets to feel more of a man reward you somehow? 50c/post isn't much Tony.

  • @CalumGilhooly

    LMAO, I sound dead on to my physical facts and 9/11 facts, and you can't match me in any burst of your reptile intelligence.

    There is NO Narrow Skyscraper limit that's smaller than a runway, and airliners hit them all the time, blind, on instruments, and in bad weather, using the same kind of intercept techniques the Terrorists did.

    The fact is, even Hobbyists can run a simulation using MS Flight Simulator here on YOUTUBE, and the flight controls don't have to be jerked around

  • @Zuel7272

    OH, and if you want to see JET ENGINES tested to FAILURE,

    right at Sea Level, there are a couple posted right here on Youtube.

    The US national and NASA supersonic and subsonic wind tunnels

    are right near the Pentagon, (Where they test full scale aircraft),

    and have been there for 60 years.

  • @Zuel7272

    NOPE, he says it's the maximum speed, IE safe speed, of this type of aircraft.

    The Boeing 727 Varig is 60 years OLD, boy. MOST of them have been withdrawn

    from service, as it's older than your Grandmother, and most of it's passengers.

    SO, this ancient airframe seems to be holding up to your ignorant speed

    limits in air claim pretty well (Air is too dense, indeed),

    DID you read the aerospace web article?? ACTUAL, named pilots laughed

    at air density affecting speed, and so do I. LMAO

  • @Zuel7272

    PLUS, once again, you are talking CRAP you know nothing about.

    Simply parroting what conspiracy websites and videos have brainwashed you with.

    Think for yourself, Moron. Jet engines can work at maximum thrust, at sea level,

    because that's where they test them, Dumbass, at Sea Level.

    The "THICK AIR" contains all that THICK OXYGEN for the engines.

    The only negative (big for the airlines) is that to maintain the fuel mixture,

    you have to pump in more aviation fuel. Big Fail there, LOL

  • @Zuel7272

    YOU CAN'T seem to get it, the recommended cruising speed is NOT a speed

    limit on the plane, it's a low cost to distance ratio the airlines watch.

    540 mph is very possible for Boeing 757, because they were NOT TRYING

    to fly safely, Super Genius, they were trying to CRASH THE AIRPLANE.

    The Boeing 757 is rated at mach 0.8, which works out to 600 mph at

    sea level, PLUS the aircraft was in a shallow dive for over 5 miles.

    The only change that happens at sea level is you use more fuel, lol

  • @Zuel7272

    NO, he never said that's MAX for the aircraft, and if you checked, you

    would know that was wrongo, conspiracy boy. LUCKILY, I DO.

    boeing dot com / commercial / 727family / product. ht ml

    Where it says, cruising speed=570 to 605 mph

    That's STILL the cruising speed for MODERN sub-sonic Boeing Jets,

    Since the defining characteristic is they are sub-sonic.

    SO, actually, it specifically disproves what you are saying.

  • @Zuel7272

    HERE are some videos of youtube airliners exceeding your low altitude speed limits.

    PENTAGON, BOEING CAN"T BE FLOWN FAST AND LOW, LOL.

    aerospaceweb. org / question / conspiracy / q0274. shtml

    watch?v=xXXA-pRIQV8 * 727 announced speed 390 knotcs= 450 mph

    watch?v=9rZER-Qw3rE&feature=re­lated * A310

    watch?v=9hBTYEMkEV4&feature=re­lated * 747

    watch?v=uHymd6maR9Q * 767

    watch?v=AfcLcbkF-hc * 757

  • @Zuel7272

    I have flown private aircraft for 30 years, you sniveling idiot. I have HELD

    commercial FDRs from airliners, and INSTALLED flight systems on aircraft.

    The IDEA that AIR is some barrier to speed for a jet is JUST AS STUPID

    as it ever was, and even WW2 PROP planes occasionally went faster in a dive.

    Boeing posts airliner speeds in MACH numbers specifically because it's

    AIR DENSITY nuetral, so the PERFORMANCE limit is 600 mph, and

    they weren't trying to FLY that aircraft, but CRASH it.

  • @Zuel7272

    FLIGHT DATA recorders ALWAYS show a 2/3 second LAG between event,

    and recording it, because it's a GATHERED data set. I build control systems,

    SCADA, and remote control systems. SO, it's NOT inconsistensies like YOU

    are having, it's the results of the FDR itself. FOR every second, the FDR

    records HUNDREDS of numbers, gained from HUNDREDS of sources.

    The data must be gathered, reduced to a common number standard,

    rounded out to a set number of characters, and THEN written to RAM

    DISK.

  • @Zuel7272

    SORRY, Kooktard, but the ENTIRE NIST CUMULUS library of pics and

    videos were released gathered by the FBI was released last year in September.

    Twoofer Morons like you USED to say it had all the secrets, but then it got

    released, and you can still hear the crickets chirping out in Twoofer-land.

    SECOND, I know your sources better than YOU, it wasn't Dulles operators,

    it was the Pentagon Heliport controller, and he didn't say impossible, he

    said it was UNSAFE, that he would CRASH.

  • @Zuel7272

    HERE is the FDR data readout, fed back thru a FDR simulator.

    STRAIGHT from the NTSB, it demonstrates the control Movements on the

    yoke, the engine throttle, and all control surface movements.

    Please tell us where all those radical manuevers are, they look pretty easy to me.

    watch?v=aP3EMnCx4yI

    SECOND, here is the MacGuire declaration itself, scanned and detailed.

    PENTAGON, FBI VIDEO LIST, AND THE BASIS FOR 84 CAMs

    911myths. com/ index. php/ FBI_hides_ 84_Pentagon_videos

    LMAO, thanks

  • @Zuel7272

    NO, actually it doesn't. For one thing, a 757 is NOT a 727-200 Varig.

    SO, it's obvious you don't know aircraft at all. SECOND, the PENTAGON

    flight path from the FDR was reproduced for the 9/11 commission, and

    it's online here at YOUTUBE, and it doesn't show radical maneuvers.

    Lastly, the 84 videos is from the FBI MacGuire declaration, and includes

    videos from Maine to Florida, MOST returned the same day.

    A boeing 757, Flight 77, hit the Pentagon.

    Sorry, conspiracy boy.

  • im also confused about the creator of this video's intention....how does anyone know any of these "terrorists" were on the planes and how do they know specifically which "terrorists" were on which planes? Barbra Olson's phone call didnt get through so did they pull this story out of their own asses? Please....no "terrorist" names on the flight manifests, otherwise they wouldnt have made the blatant mistake of realizing that 8 of the "terrorists" on their "list" were found alive and well....

  • the debunkers youtube always give their point in text but not in person.

  • SO WHERE ARE THE BLACK BOXES IF THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY?

  • @LUCA7FOLD not only that, bombs went off in the buildings....multiple witnesses from all walks of life witnessed them going off....what about building 7.....which of course they wont ever be able to explain away. Shanksville, no bodies, no jet fuel found on the ground....Barbra Olson call didnt happens says the FBI during the Mousaoui trial....and her call was the genesis of the "terrorists with box-cutters" BS....on and on....anybody ever read Operations Northwood or PNAC??

  • @fromanotherstar Familiar with both. JFKs refusal to sign on to NW was one of the motives but not the primary one. Just got done with Meyers book "Eyes on the Horizon" He used the same 'transformation' line dozens of times in his book but NOT ONE explanation to the American people why he was not at his post while we were supposedly under attack. Meyers parrots the offc bs intelligence failures some allowed t's to defeat the laws of physics. I will target Meyers soon in one of my open letters.

  • lol what a joke.... you yourself are clearly stating that he couldnt land that small plane properly and u expect him to take a giant and hit the target just a few feet above the ground so accurately? ok where are the wings of the aircraft near pentagon? And most important thing is, CIA can easily get him a license just like he got it here

  • @doctor6970

    Sorry, I said no such thing.

    Neither did Marcelle Bernard above.

    He SAID, "He failed because the flight instructor had to help him"

    (It's at 1:55 above.)

    Remember, Hani Hanjour had over 600 HOURS of logged FLIGHT TIME.

    600 hours is longer than you would spend in college for a degree.

    (That note is at 0:15 in this video)

    Now tell me, how do NON pilots claim someone with 600 HOURS of flight time, can't fly?

    You can't FAKE flight skills, that ends kinda badly, huh?

  • @Merlin5x5

    Merlin yo u are very good at meddling with the fact. but the fact is the pilot who flew the aircrafts previously, himself admitted that no one can do such a stunt. he even said that the aircraft will just drop off the sky. you can check his statement at google videos. his name is Russ Wittenberg. and regarding the 600 hours flight LOL CIA can get him 6000 hours logged list. not a problem at all.

  • @doctor6970

    LOL, I am NOT meddling with the facts, I am presenting them.

    I commented extensively on the Russ Wittenburg video.

    What you and Twoofers fail to remember,

    is that the Pentagon 757 is in the Air Force of 16 nations.

    Russ Wittenburg was FACTUALLY wrong in MANY of his

    statements, like Hani Hanjour training in a Cessna.

    He trained in Boeing Simulators for 120 hours.

    Hani had 600+ hours of LOGGED flight time.

    You can't fake that.

  • @Merlin5x5

    CIA can fake anything. its the biggest liar. Go check for operation northwoods and operation mockbird.

  • @doctor6970

    Oh yeah, the CIA faked this and that.

    Did they fake the 7/7 attacks in the UK?

    OR, the Bombing of the Madrid Train System?

    OR, the Bombing of MUMBAI, India?

    OR, the attacks on Niger, Tanzania, Sudan, Somalia US embassies?

    How, exactly, does "INSIDE JOB"

    work when so many of the Attacks AFTER 9/11

    were OUTSIDE the US in Foreign countries?

  • @Merlin5x5

    Yes all these are false flag missions. Al Qayeda is an asset for CIA. it supplies weapons and support to Taliban and al qayeda through the ISI, mossad network. Al Qayeda carries out the operations. Military Industrial complex is earning huge money through supplying both sides in the war. plus, the government has got the pretext needed to go and kill millions and loot their resources. Even after weapons of mass destruction lie, you didnt open ur eyes? may be u are just acting

  • @doctor6970 OH, SUUUURRRREEEE. Now, go ask the nurse for your pill, Moron. The US establishment is better than you, or your alternative universe, can create. We actually PAY MONEY to warehouse idiots who think they are the secret spy. The WMD claim is fine with me, it proves they are telling the truth, because if they were LYING, why would they NOT LIE, about the WMD? They could throw a Paper sign over a trash can and call it Nukulyer bomb, and idiots like you couldn't tell.
  • @Merlin5x5 Apparently the multi trillion dollar intelligence apparatus (a contradiction in terms) cant tell either! LOL! 5up5 give up retard. You give me the stick I beat you with!

  • @Merlin5x5 Yes, its all staged, the war in Irak, Afganistan, Lybia, New York , London...all staged, done by the shadow government' operatives such as CIA and Al-Qaida. If you dont want to belive that this is true, its your choice.

  • @LUCA7FOLD

    Good, thanks. Anytime you want to show us ONE shred of evidence that a shadow government exists, please do so.

    In the meantime, I will continue to think you are a fucking idiot.

    No offense.

  • @Merlin5by5 here it is: xxx(.)CFR(.)com the top of the iceberg. Go and read about the Arab revolution or should I say: the plan for democratization of the middle-east. Do you know what is the connection between Dominique Strauss-Khan and Muammar Gaddafi ? Do you know where you are ? Fuck yourself with your no offense.

  • @LUCA7FOLD

    LMAO, OH yeah, Kooktard science and politics.

    How could I forget

  • @doctor6970 2. "you yourself are clearly stating that he couldnt land that small plane properly " 2.a. I never stated that. 2.b. He never attempted to land the plane, did he? 2.c. The CIA got him a license? His entire license procedure was at civilian airports and testing. Just like a job certification, FAA ground testing is BLIND and on computers. 2.d. The wings of the plane went INSIDE the pentagon, and it had a roof at the time. What imaginary force would pull them out?
  • @Merlin5x5 The guy who flew the same aircrafts previously stated - I flew the two actual aircraft which were involved in 9/11... Fight number 175 and Flight 93, the 757 that allegedly went down in Shanksville and Flight 175 is the aircraft that's alleged to have hit the South Tower. I don't believe it's possible for... a so-called terrorist to train on a 172, then jump in a cockpit of a 757-767 class cockpit, and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft,

  • @doctor6970

    Well, if Hani Hanjour didn't fly this aircraft, who was speaking as pilot in the background on the recorded over the air radio traffic?

    The OTTO pilot from AIRPLANE?

    LOL

    Hani Hanjour had over 600 hours of LOGGED AIRPLANE FLIGHT.

    Over 120 hours on a Boeing Simulator like this, in Arizona.

    He was better trained at his job, than you are at yours.

  • @Merlin5x5

    and vertical navigate the aircraft, lateral navigate the aircraft, and fly the airplane at speeds exceeding it's design limit speed by well over 100 knots, make high-speed high-banked turns,.. pulling probably 5, 6, 7 G's... the aircraft would literally fall off the sky... I couldn't do it and I'm absolutely positive they couldn't do it." Come on its just impossible to control such a latest giant for a reatrd like him. 600 hours can be easily made up by cia not a big issue

  • @doctor6970

    LOL, the TURN of the Pentagon 757 into the Pentagon was over a FIVE mile square radius, that's what he was TAUGHT to do at Kingman airport and commercial Boeing simulators.

    watch?v=JGyJqXJWkuY

    There are NO G's at all in such a turn.

    FROM his LAST reported altitude he was 690 FEET high, and 9000 FT

    away from target, that's about 3.8 degrees. Standard approach all

    over the US is THREE degrees.

    You still don't seem to get SUICIDE attack, so you?

  • All these "debunkers" try to do is twist and contort the words of people who do not mean what these people portray. sure any idiot can fly a plane into a building, but not the pentagon.Obviously people have aboulutly no knolwdge of a tiny one engine cesna, and a Four story Boeing 767 JET.completly different. Also, what they failed to prove is how this man defied physics. It is know by anyone with any kind of knowledge of flight that it is immpossible to fly a 767 10 ft. above the ground at500m/h

  • @fredshack Oh give me a break. You don't know the first thing about physics. Let's not go around pretending to be scientists when we're not.

  • @fredshack

    As the Boeing 757 flew up to the Pentagon, the Pentagon roof

    would have been FORTY TWO feet over the 757 cockpit.

    EIGHT 757's would fit along ONE side of the Pentagon,

    wingtip to wingtip.

    What EXACTLY is the hard part?

    and what kind of idiot thinks it was a 767 (wtc)

    at the pentagon anyway?

  • Hani Hanjour was a terrible pilot. That is not controversial. This video suggests this wasn't true because he held a commercial pilot certificate. True, but he was not qualified to receive it from the private contractor with the FAA in the first place. In fact, when he went to Jet Tech in Arizona, they were so disbelieving that he held that certificate they actually notified the FAA and asked to verify that it was genuine.

  • Also, this has the quote of Bernard saying Hanjour "could have pointed that plane at a building and hit it."

    Okay. But Flight 77 didn't do that. Instead, it performed a steep banking descent of nearly 7000 feet in 3 minutes, spiraling down in a 330-degree turn before pushing to near maximum thrust and flying nearly horizontally into a target just 71 feet high at 530 mph. That's nothing like just pointing a plane at a building and hitting it.

  • And Patrick Smith's suggestion that this flying showed how Hanjour was a "shitty pilot" is just insulting to the intelligence. There was an absolute consensus early in the investigation that this "fighter jet maneuver" was the work of a skilled pilot. Smith simply offers a revisionist account that any pilot wannabe could have done that. Come on, people aren't completely stupid. Let's try not to be ridiculous.

  • @HammondVids

    But the facts that you 911 twoofers insist on covering up are as follows:

    1) he did have a commercial pilots license and did successfully fly a Cessna

    2) the only thing Hanjour's instructors said he had problems with was english

    Why the "so called" 911 truth movement feverishly tries to cover up these facts just shows they're more interested in making up conspiracies than searching for the truth.

    911 TRUTH = 911 LIES

  • @ctcole77 1) I DID point out he had a commercial pilot's certificate. But, as I also pointed out, he was not qualified to receive it in the first place. In fact, when he went to Jet Tech International for lessons, they reported him to the FAA because they thought his certificate must have been a fake.

    2) Absolutely false. His instructors from every school he attended pointed out that he was a horrible pilot.

    So it's you who need to get your facts straight, and stop spreading lies.

  • @HammondVids

    Hanjour logged OVER 600 hour of flight time. Hanjour's flight instructors have said MANY times he was qualified to fly flight 77 into a building. Actually they have said MANY times any moron caould make that turn. It's landing that is difficult. The main reason Hanjour was denied from rentinf a Cessna was that he refused to give them his address.

    Nice try liar!

    911 TRUTH = 911 LIES

  • @ctcole77 You didn't identify anything I said that was false. Google "Al Qaeda's Top Gun" and get educated, so you won't continue to make such a fool of yourself with your transparent LIES.

    The real reason "the instructors refused to pass him because his skills were so poor" (Washington Post 9/19/01). He "was just a bad pilot". Much more documentation in my article that will demonstrate to other readers here you just don't have a clue what you are talking about, that it's you who is the LIAR.

  • @HammondVids

    It's OBVIOUS that you have never taken any flight

    or ground school, or been a pilot. Modern ground

    school, and modern certifications involve

    COMPUTER testing by PROMETRIC and others,

    beside the actual instructor time, and flight time.

    The days when you could Bribe or cheat your

    way to a private pilot, or commercial pilot's

    license faded away LONG ago. Hani Hanjour

    had BOEING simulator training.

  • @Merlin5x5 How long ago? Heather Awsumb of Professional Airways Systems Specialists (PASS) disagrees with you. Moreover, when he went to Jet Tech, they actually reported him to the FAA because they thought his certificate must be a fake, because his flying and English skills were so poor. Hanjour never completed Boeing simulator training, but FLUNKED OUT. He was barely competent in a Cessna. These are the facts.

  • @HammondVids

    Excuse me, Dumbass, but the Video right above debunks you.

    ALL of his Instructors endorsed his ability to hit the Pentagon, INCLUDING THE ONES TRUTHERS CITE.

    There has been computerized testing since the 1990s, and Prometric held closed classroom testing before THAT. BEFORE THAT, FAA Flight centers held closed door classroom testing. Anyone who claims that you can fake your way to a license, has NOT done it.

    That would be you, huh?

    Are you a pilot?

  • @Merlin5x5 "ALL of his Instructors endorsed his ability to hit the Pentagon..." That is absolutely false. What is true is to say that ALL of his instructors characterized him as a poor pilot. In fact, Jet Tech reported him to the FAA because they suspected his certificate was fraudulent since his piloting and English skills were so poor, as I've already pointed out.

  • @HammondVids

    Marcel Bernard, the Plane Rental business owner Truthers quote most often, is in this video, Dumbass.

    AT 2:00 in this video, he assures his local newspaper that Hani Hanjour COULD hit the Pentagon.

    Because Truthers only quote 1.5 minutes out of a half hour interview, don't they?

    Hani Hanjour spent nearly 80 hours in BOEING simulators like this

    watch?v=JGyJqXJWkuY

    All together, Osama Bin Laden spent nearly 500,000 in CASH training FOUR pilots.

    More than YOUR schooling, huh?

  • @Merlin5x5 (1) Bernard is not "ALL of his Instructors", "Dumbass". (2) Bernard's point is that he could line a plane up with a building and fly into it. Was Bernard aware when he made this statement of the fact that Flight 77 dropped more than 5,600 feet in 3 minutes while making a steep, banking turn of 330 degrees and accelerating to 530mph before it hit a target just 71 feet high? Is Bernard saying Hanjour could do THAT? No, he isn't.

  • @HammondVids

    Bernard IS very typical of Hani Hanjours instructors in that he says one thing to Twoofers, and another to the official FBI Investigators. Not one of the Instructors he had in Arizona, or Florida said Hanjour was incapable of this attack.

    Just Twoofers desperate to have SOME reason

    to reject that an enemy of the US attacked us.

  • @Merlin5x5 Not one of them said he was capable of it, either. They observed that he was barely competent IN A CESSNA. So, draw the obvious corollary with regard to flying a BOEING.

  • @HammondVids

    Plus, I forgot to mention that this video SHOWS at

    Marcel Bernard, the STAR instructor at freeway airport

    for the Truth movement, actually saying in PRINT that

    he was capable of doing this attack at 2:10 in the video.

    Sorry, Buttlick

    That kinda directly contradicts your claim, doesn't it?