Kind of sad that we still go to Everest and leave all our waste there. Nothing to prove. Pretty selfish way yo prove your self in such a beautiful land.
I mean really, the way I see how it was done on this trip and the way it was described (ITA) I'd have to say this is largely a rich man's ego stroke (climbing Everest with "guides"). Krakauer makes this point and so provides himself with a pretext to peripheralize himself from the elites in group.
My point is that at this time summitting Everest seemed to be contingent on wealth and even then things can go wrong. I just find it remarkable how people point fingers; the dead chose to climb.
I have just finished reading Into Thin Air by Kraukauer. I found it powerful, emotional and honest. I have every respect for those involved in that disaster. I struggle to respect the ill-informed opinions of those who criticise the protagonists involved. We weren't there. I don't know about you, but I've not experienced the debilitating effects of high altitude. It doesn't sound very pleasant. Anyway, let's respect the people who were there and think about those who lost their lives.
@flemdogg you gotta read both books to really grasp it, the climb is the other book. Im not siding with anyone on youtube, but if like Into Thin Air you'll love The Climb
@flemdogg Why should we respect people for dying while performing a dangerous and unnecessary sport that, as pointed out by others is mostly for the wealthy, if not all that wealthy in their own western countries, certainly far wealthier than the Sherpas who resupply the camps, act as guides, and such but are basically ignored in terms of "climbing everest" because they aren't westerners? How does taking stupid risks for one's own amusement become something worthy of respect?
well, I'm younger and in as good or better shape than many of the folks who did and have about as much climbing experience as well. Difference is, I have no interest in taking such a huge risk for no good reason. They have every right to do it, but that doesn't mean I have to give them any more respect than I give everyone else simply because they needlessly put themselves in a dangerous position and survived.. or didn't.
Anatolyj Bukreev was a real hero, who saved three lives alone, in the dark, without oxigen. Jon Krakauer and sherpas refused to go out. You'd better read Bukreev's book "The climb" 1997 - a professional point of view. I don't believe a single Krakauer's word /
@molbard You should read the new afterword by Krakauer in Into Thin Air. Apparently, Bukreev's publicist didn't interview all of the parties involved, and many of them reject his accounts of the events. Krakauer does a pretty good job of defending his book and addressing DeWalt's criticisms.
I just finished reading Into Thin Air a few days ago. The book has a haunting after-effect so seeing these photos and listening to the narration was especially moving for me. I tried to imagine what it would be like to be alone up there buried in a blizzard with no oxygen, wind chills minus 100 degrees and no chance of being rescued. I couldn't and I won't pretend to understand why anyone would want to subject themselves to such hardship-body and mind. But I don't judge either. Bless them all.
I have not followed the whole conversation here, but I ahve followed this story considerably, and I read Into Thin Air, which I took as credible. It seemed that he likely DID put his life at risk by not turning back by the agreed upon turn around time. HE was too set on getting Doug to the top, That clouded his judgment. Not that I think he deserved death, but he made a mistake, and that did cause some of what occurred. not judging, just opining.
Considering the dude probably had to wait years on a list just to get the chance to "cue" up Everest, I'm sure he possibly had his wife's blessing at the time simply to take the opportunity of a lifetime. I'm sure it was viewed as that and not a icy coffin at the time. His wife probably wasn't even pregnant when he expressed interest to climb Everest. I don't think selfishness had a damn thing to do with it. I say I'm sure like I'm sure, but I'm not and that's just my two cents.
@fifleman No mate Rob Hall led the expidition he was a world class climber and had previously had his wife as base camp manager but she was 7 months pregnant and couldnt go that year but your sentiment is right she would have expected him to return considering the fact he had climbed around eight 8000 meter peaks including everest numerous times and in two past expeditions got 35 people to the summit! its far from selfish it was his job at the end of the day to guide clients up the mountain
yes, it is moving and shocking to hear that one dies while talking to his pregnant wife, but if you think a little you realize that one should not risk his life if he knows that his death would be a much bigger loss.that is just selfish.
Read Graham Ratcliffe's 'A Day to Die For'. After many years of investigation, he managed to uncover the fact that both Rob Hall & Scott Fischer were receiving weather forecasts and knew that a storm was blowing up. They asked Graham Ratcliffe's team to swap summiting days (which they agreed to), but the storm arrived early. Ratcliffe struggled for years with guilt, until he came across a chance comment by somebody that 'they knew the weather might be bad'. Interesting.
@ Top Comment about him not being the only doctor on the Mountain. All the other doctor's were at Advanced Base Camp. Kamler was the only doctor on the mountain which is officially considered at camp 1 to camp 4. He was the first person to treat them people at camp 2 before they made it down to Advanced Base Camp. Two people were flown out of camp 2 before seeing any other doctors.
Interesting tale for the masses unaware in front of him, but he is factually wrong on several occasions.
That he considered himself the only Dr. was noted above, but also there were fourteen, not three, expeditions (sixteen, inc. solo attempts), that last conversation he reported with Rob Hall was by no means the last they heard from him, he seems to have decided for himself how some of the unexplained deaths happened & also, despite his pics, this happened in darkness & near zero visibility.
Everyone who decides to attempt to climb Everest know the risks and does so willingly. I feel terrible for all those who have perished trying to reach the summit. I read Into Thin Air and liked the book. IDK how accurate or biased it is but I do know that if u attempt something risky there always is the possibility of injury, death, ect.. No one held a gun to these peoples head and made them do this. Insult and blame is disrespectful to the dead, their families, and the survivors.
Come cazzo fai a far ridere la tua platea dopo una tragedia simile? Sei veramente vergognoso! E dai commenti che ho letto al video anche bugiardo! Ho letto sia il libro di Jon Krakauer che la risposta di Anatoli Boukreev! Quella del russo è la più veritiera ricostruzione dei fatti! Con le nuove tecnologie pensate, solo per soldi, di portare sugli 8000 gente che sapete che rischia la vita molto di più di veri alpinisti! Spero non ti chiamino più a tenere conferenze al riguardo! Non lo meriti!
it is THE CLIMB that gives you more accurate details on the disaster that struck. Krakauer's book, though interesting, is a little biased and does not even highlight the danger Bourkeev had put himself through while making one of the best high altitude rescues. So, THE CLIMB it is. Period.
@voodoochild127 -- Into Thin Air is indeed a wonderful book. But Beck Weathers lied about his eyes and denied having had surgery where in truth he had had radial keratotomy. He went blind, lied about that for a day, then slowed the whole group on May 10th. He cost them at least one hour's time. More like two hours. He, not Sandy Pittman, was the poison that killed and maimed so many climbers. The storm ? Nothing unusual for Everest. For 28,000 feet... a zephyr.
@waka19igohard I'm sad to say, no. The fates of both Doug Hansen and Andy Harris are still unknown, as are the locations of their bodies. I believe an ice axe was found stuck in the ice near the summit and confirmed to have been Harris's, but you may want to fact check that.
@xiuthefeared, climbing is a sport, people make a living from it. Guides on a climb like everest are well paid. You lack even basic knowledge, yet you still comment, gotta love america.
Sorry my native language isn't english. I'm not saying you have to do stuff that are extremly risky, I say you have to take risks, some people need more than others. So you wanna live a long and boring life, and when your grandchildren asks, what did you do? all you can say is "nothing" I really don't care what you think about anything, if someone wanna climb a mountain let them. Everyone is in charge of their own life.. so mate, go out and do something risky.. live a little.
@xXxativuxXx First off, no one has to take risks. In fact, it it stupid to take unnecessary risks. Second, it is ridiculous to say that people who do not take extreme risks have done nothing in their lives. I can think of countless examples of people who led low risk lives who have made significant contributions to this world, and live full, rich lives. Again, I believe the best solution is to petition the governments of Nepal and China, to ban the climing of Mt. Everest.
Into Thin Air is a hatchet-job by a shameless self-publicist, in which the real hero of that climb, Anatoli Boukreev, was disgacefully defamed by Krakauer. For the record, having successfully summited without the use of supplemental O2, Boukreev left his tent on 3 separate occasions in an attempt to rescue climbers who had gotten lost on their return from the summit. What did Krakauer do to help?
Agree. The same was said in the movie made about these events by the IMAX team - Krakauer's story was 100% made from his perspective - someone who saved himself, and only, critizing everyone meanwhile, making zero efforts to care about anyone around.
@NcuevasB I'll second that suggestion...Into Thin Air, while a very interesting book to read, is IMO pure crap. I found The Climb to be a much more credible book.
Because when your wife is pregnant and you have a job which pays you $40,000 for each client of which they might of had six to eight, that I think was his reason for going. Also the fact that Hall and Ball had a 100% success rate up until that year might have played a part in his thinking. As sad as it was he was doing what he was born to do.
@XmegaPresident lol my god... I can't believe i actually have to explain this to you, I never said you called him an idiot, "He wasn't an idiot" is a common thing people in north america say it means - he's smart.....
@XmegaPresident Did you read Krakeauer's book, or Anatoli Boukreev's? My guess is no, other wise you would have realized that Rob Hall was one of the best climbers in the world and had summited Everest numerous times, without supplemental oxygen. This was also his job, he made a living guiding climbers up Everest. So who are you to say that he was selfish. To him, leaving Doug on the mountain to die alone would have been selfish.
@XmegaPresident Selfish? He was a guide. There is only one time in the year when it is okay to climb.. There was an entire team that was planning on climbing and Rob Hall was set as one of the guides to help those people. He had climbed Everest several times before. Nobody knew that there would suddenly be a blizzard.
@lsi058 First of all. My comment showed him no disrespect. Second, "we don't need your opinion"? everybody has an opinion you moron. Third, who are you to speak for the entire YouTube community.
Finally, (since you are new to the Youtube community, as your profile states 7/4/11 is when you become an official member), understand that the world does not revolve around you. Please do not take the "You"from tube literally.
It seems idiotic for anyone to intentionally put themselves at such risk, and even more idiotic to cry about it after the fact, when the inevitable happens.
@xXxativuxXx He should cry for the children who will lose one or both parents, not the idiots who recklessly and selfishly put their own lives in jeopardy. His actions only encourage and support this type of reckless behavior, giving the climbers a false sense of security because a "doctor" is on the mountain.
@Dean0030 So if a friend of yours died doing something recklessly you wouldn't cry? What he should and shouldn't not do is kinda out of the question.. And even the two best climbers that year Rob Hall and Scott fischer lost control over the situation and died.. so by saying "intentionally put themselves at such risk" well then no one should be allowed up on any mountain in the world. Hell you're not even allowed to drive a car. You're putting yourself and others at risk.
@xXxativuxXx Climbing Mt. Everest is obviously much more dangerous than driving a car. The solution is for Nepal and China to ban anyone from climbing Mt. Everest, because of the extreme risk involved. They won't do that however, because of the almighty dollar. So, rich idiots will continue to climb it, and people will continue to die. It that's what you want, then I feel sorry for you.
@Dean0030 How can you live without taking risks, why take away free will? I doubt you've done anything right in your life, because you're to scared too.
@xXxativuxXx First off, learn how to spell. Second, your arguments are idiotic. Common sense regulations are part of our every day lives. Why is it illegal to shoot heroin? Why do we have to wear seatbelts? Is it really your argument that in order to live "right" you have to do things that are extremely risky? Why don't you ask the children and spouses of the dead climbers how "right" things are?
@Dean0030 its you that has nothing of substance to say. you sound like someone who doesn't know shit about shit but thinks they do. be quite or embarrass yourself, its your choice.
@MisterBouncyBounce First off, apparently you don't know how to spell either, so what does that say about you? Just another moron, I guess. Second, may I suggest you and your friend try to climb Mt. Everest. It would likely help the gene pool quite a bit, to have your sperm frozen at the top, rather than passing it on.
@Dean0030 It has nothing to do about money... Its about free will. How would you like it if you wanted to prove something to yourself.. If you wanted to reach a goal in life.. to do something amazing.. But then the government says, "fuck you. you can't. its dangerous." With that logic everything dangerous should be banned. Guns, cars, pools, alcohol, cigarettes, unprotected sex, autoerotic asphyxiation, etc... hell even suicide. Its called having free will. Think before you speak.
@sirus804 Governments can and do impose common sense regulations in our everyday lives, such as don't do drugs, wear your seatbelt, and don't climb up the side of that 100 story building. Likewise, the FDA regulates the food we eat to ensure that it is as safe as possible. If there was a product on the market that killed 10% of the people that used it, people would be outraged, and the government would rightly ban it. For Mt. Everest, one person dies for every 10 who make the summit.
@Dean0030 Governments TRY to impose such laws.. Except human nature ignores such rules. People do illegal drugs anyway. Besides, it'd be virtually impossible to try to impose such a law. What? Is the government going to put police all over the Himalayas? Everest's death rate is rather tame compared to some of the other eight-thousanders in Himalaya. Also, you have your facts wrong. Everest's death rate isn't 10%. 1/10 for every SUCCESSFUL summit. Many attempt and fail. It isn't 10%.
@sirus804 If you are an advocate for illegal drug use, and risky behavior of all kinds, then you make my point for me. And my fact is correct: one person dies for every 10 who make the summit. If there was an airplane that crashed one time for every 10 successful flights, that model would be grounded. I suggest you get off the drugs, and re-think your arguments. Happy Thanksgiving.
@Dean0030 When did I ever say that? You're an idiot. I talk about freewill and how its impossible for the government to enforce such a ridiculous law..Then your response is that I'm a druggy... Lmao.
@sirus804 You're the idiot, and frankly not worth my time. The bottom line is that people should not put their lives at risk unnecessarily, particularly if they have a spouse and children.
@Dean0030 mountaineers are very smart people and they know what they are doing. I don't see anything bad in risk. Some people live boring slave lifes and die like a rats and some people have adventurous live and die doint what they like to do. After all there is no safe way of living...
@vaidotas86 It's not very smart to end up frozen near the top of Mt. Everest, particularly when that person has children waiting for them at home. Getting killed in a freak accident is very different than intentionally engaging in an activity that has a high mortality rate. Playing Russian Roulette may be exciting, but it is certainly not smart.
Power of thought. 25 watts of electricity generated by the brain can provide YOUR miracle too. Beck Weathers survived because he DECIDED to ... What do you think??
Name Mr. Madan KC , the highest mountain helicopter pilot to rescue the survived. He was in Nepal Army. Now freelancer in Kathmandu. He should not be omitted . He is quite courageous young man.
This is pretty scary. Still able to see bodies that look like people sitting there. And to here the story of Beck when he was left for dead. I havent finished "Into thin Air" but it sounds like most of the people get seperated and caught in storms.
@narutoshippudenclara Don't be a dumbshit! He knew the odds and still made his decision. Even knowing full well the repercussions for his family should his self centered act go south. If you think he's some kind of saintly martyr then great, that only serves to show how shallow and narrow minded you are. Now don't expect me to join the 'happy' throng that marches to a drum of ignorance, and do it in the name of some kind of holy and dignified (albeit imaginary) altruism... Chow baby!
@WizardOfChicamunga You don't get it at all. Your trying to make me feel remorse because I am showing respect? Fuck you. It was his job to do what his clients wanted, and that was get them to the top. Not only that, but if you were paying attention you would know that the storm came in too quickly for him to make any calls. And he chose to stay behind with a weaker client who couldn't make it off. He had every chance to make it off alive but he refused to leave a climber behind. Get a life.
Dr. Kamler's claim of having been "the only Doctor on the mountain" is false.
Dr. Caroline Mackenzie: Team doctor for Adventure Consultants (Base Camp)
Dr. John Taske: Client on Adventure Consultants
Dr. Ingrid Hunt: Team doctor for Mountain Madness
and a number of other members of the expeditions were doctors as well.
It interests me that he made jokes about falling off the ridge, since many climbers have died doing just that, possibly including Guide Andy Harris in the 1996 storm.
While it could certainly be interpreted that way, he'd still be false in claiming so. Taske and Hunt were both at or above camp 4 at the time of the disaster. I'm certainly not saying he didn't do a great deal to help, I'm just saying he wasn't the solitary doctor, nor the only one who coordinated/provided medical aid.
They were up way too long - he broke all his own rules. Weird, he was such a professional and so conscientious about safety. Seems like he just thought he had so much more time than he did and could babysit all those people up and then down. Any rookie knows its as hard going down as up - you're so exhausted. So sad, that.
detour to avoid steeper slopes that stretched between them and Camp Four because of the zero visibility they were experiencing in the storm. So they ventured off to the East and overshot Camp Four by 1000 feet. This is where they created the notorious "huddle" which lasted out through the night" After experiencing a night of fierce weather, the strong climbers left to retrieve help. When help finally arrived after teachers had spent valuable time looking in the wrong place, Beck and Namba were
To set the record straight, according to Krakauer's Into Thin Air, Beck Weathers and Yasuko Namba, the two climbers that were supposedly passed, were not "left to die". To start off with it is important to know that they were not "passed" on the trail, nor were they on the trail at all. When coming down the mountain to Camp Four, Neal Bieldeman the guide they happen to be following, decided that the group of 11 climbers that included Beck and Namba would take a detour to avoid steeper slopes t
Chuck Norris summited Everest in a speedo and skied down on his total gym. He also renamed the Death Zone the CHUCK ZONE. He bought property on the summit and winters there.
Also, try 'The Death Zone' by Matt Dickinson. He was on the north side at the very same time, trying to film a fat, aging English actor, Brian Blessed, in his attempt to summit. It is a fascinating read &, unlike 'Into Thin Air' it shows you the standard routes up & pics of the people involved on both sides of the mountain. Thus the readers who don't know either, get more involved, still.
@SuperBoomstick One thing though dude, it would kill it if they ever introduced safety measures like the super chopper which is actually available. I applaud the people over there for resisting namby pamby safety and keeping it dangerous. Everest minus danger is like a cake without sugar.
@CobraGTXNoS Harris will be down at the bottom probably buried under a load of snow wont he? He fell off. I heard that Fischer is actually the picture you sometimes see on the net of a guy sitting down with a skull for a face.
@Pentdad Reading that book in class was interesting, "Into Thin Air" it was. Yeah, I feel sorry for Rob Halls family, right when he just had a kid two months later. Fischer was pretty awesome too.
@Pentdad Fischer and Hall, if they are still up there, have been up there since 1996. George Mallory, who may very well really be the first man to summit Everest, (it could not be determined if he was on his way up or on his way down) was found and he had been up there since 1924. A little bit longer than Fischer or Hall.
@Pentdad Sorry no I don't but I did find out they got Mallory down and buried him, so he is not still up there. I believe Fischer and Hall are, apparently too difficult to get them down, or that's what I read.
@skylur44 I am afraid you have made an inaccurate assumption, George Mallory's body was not moved and he was buried ( body covered with rocks ) where he was found high on the mountain. That 1999 Expedition " The Search For Mallory & Irvine " had expected to find the body of Sandy and I understand had spoken to Irvine's family before going, to try and observe their wishes, Mallory's family were not asked but did want his body to stay high on Chomolungma where is still lies
@sicodaddy I stand corrected. It was not an assumption, it was in an article I read, I never presume to assume anything, so obviously you know the facts and the article I read was incorrect.
@skylur44 I am afraid you have made an inaccurate assumption, George Mallory's body was not moved and he was buried ( body covered with rocks ) where he was found high on the mountain. That 1999 Expedition " The Search For Mallory & Irvine " had expected to find the body of Sandy and I understand had spoken to Irvine's family before going, to try and observe their wishes, Mallory's family were not asked but did want his body to stay high on Chomolungma where he still lies
I have mad respect for mountaineers who pursue a challenge like this! more respect to the people who have passed up there(trying their best). The human heart is brave, but these climbers are a mountain of bravement !
I don't consider my self a hero in any way shape or form but I can not understand how someone could excuse, never mind just living the rest of your life with the knowledge that you left some one to die even if the effort seemed hopeless at the time. I just couldn't look myself in the mirror again I would be better off dying. There are worse thing than death.
@blobdy Sometimes people have to be left though. Lots of people do try to help others down, but if your way to high up then rescue is almost impossible and there is a good chance you will become another statistic. Rob Hall could have survived had he left the person he was guiding for dead, but he didn't. Rob Hall became another statistic trying to help. During the 96 disaster many people made multiple trips up the mountain trying to help people, such as the IMAX team and sherpas.
@vickizspace Well it seems to me from reading and watching multiple accounts of people just being left to die that the only difference on a mountain is a general lack of morals. When u read accounts of forty people walking by someone to summit that isn't a lack of energy it's a lack of caring. It costs a person about 60,000 dollars to summit Everest. a life should be considered as worth more. maybe one can't get someone off of Everest but what about 40? it took less than that to get Beck down.
@ballinben07 i think you got that backwards you mean you wish you was white because nobody gives a fuck about you so you should go climb landforms and jump off of them because your a dirty colored minority fuck that again wishes belonged to the supreme far superior white race which whoam own & run this world? keep dreamin
@isnormalityreality Hillary was in no position to dictate what way climbers approached climbing Everest.Certainly some climbers were not ready to take on a climb of such magnitude and were probably not vetted correctly. Having said this time had moved on from the year Hillary reached the top. Peoples thirst for adventure became unquenchable.looking at all the evidence I believe Mallory made it to the top in 1924.
Right on the money dude! I would like to add one other point. Knowing the risks and the huge possibility of death he stayed with his client till the end. That man is an absolute hero in my opinion. This wasn't a life long friend this was a client. If he had managed to survive that ordeal he would have been lauded as one by the world. There was a number of people there that didn't do a damned thing.
@justanotherfreak2008 They could use a chopper back then, however theres no fear, danger, and excitement of climbing the highest mountain in the world when your in a chopper.
Because his childhood hero Sr. Edmund Hillary, who was a well respected climber. The first successful British climber to Everest, I think, publically criticized Rob Hall for comercializing Everest. Well that is one way Rob got a lot of criticism.
Kind of sad that we still go to Everest and leave all our waste there. Nothing to prove. Pretty selfish way yo prove your self in such a beautiful land.
volkltiger 1 day ago
Moving
purplemonkeyelephant 1 day ago
Herk, death to all over-achievers! : P
OtomoTenzi 2 days ago
I mean really, the way I see how it was done on this trip and the way it was described (ITA) I'd have to say this is largely a rich man's ego stroke (climbing Everest with "guides"). Krakauer makes this point and so provides himself with a pretext to peripheralize himself from the elites in group.
My point is that at this time summitting Everest seemed to be contingent on wealth and even then things can go wrong. I just find it remarkable how people point fingers; the dead chose to climb.
markse4444 2 weeks ago
I have just finished reading Into Thin Air by Kraukauer. I found it powerful, emotional and honest. I have every respect for those involved in that disaster. I struggle to respect the ill-informed opinions of those who criticise the protagonists involved. We weren't there. I don't know about you, but I've not experienced the debilitating effects of high altitude. It doesn't sound very pleasant. Anyway, let's respect the people who were there and think about those who lost their lives.
flemdogg 3 weeks ago
@flemdogg you gotta read both books to really grasp it, the climb is the other book. Im not siding with anyone on youtube, but if like Into Thin Air you'll love The Climb
globernaught 3 weeks ago
@flemdogg Why should we respect people for dying while performing a dangerous and unnecessary sport that, as pointed out by others is mostly for the wealthy, if not all that wealthy in their own western countries, certainly far wealthier than the Sherpas who resupply the camps, act as guides, and such but are basically ignored in terms of "climbing everest" because they aren't westerners? How does taking stupid risks for one's own amusement become something worthy of respect?
Estragon17 1 week ago
@Estragon17 I'd love to see you go through what they went through and make it out alive
mestuppunker101 1 week ago
@mestuppunker101
well, I'm younger and in as good or better shape than many of the folks who did and have about as much climbing experience as well. Difference is, I have no interest in taking such a huge risk for no good reason. They have every right to do it, but that doesn't mean I have to give them any more respect than I give everyone else simply because they needlessly put themselves in a dangerous position and survived.. or didn't.
Estragon17 1 week ago 2
@flemdogg Its a little odd to say in one breath we were not there, but in another you found the book honest?
It is very clear that Krakaur was the finger pointer and the first to apportion blame. I found his book very biased and self serving.
Yet the composition of the death toll speaks for itself.
balmainguy 1 week ago
Anatolyj Bukreev was a real hero, who saved three lives alone, in the dark, without oxigen. Jon Krakauer and sherpas refused to go out. You'd better read Bukreev's book "The climb" 1997 - a professional point of view. I don't believe a single Krakauer's word /
molbard 4 weeks ago
@molbard You should read the new afterword by Krakauer in Into Thin Air. Apparently, Bukreev's publicist didn't interview all of the parties involved, and many of them reject his accounts of the events. Krakauer does a pretty good job of defending his book and addressing DeWalt's criticisms.
xXFlyspeckXx 4 weeks ago
I just finished reading Into Thin Air a few days ago. The book has a haunting after-effect so seeing these photos and listening to the narration was especially moving for me. I tried to imagine what it would be like to be alone up there buried in a blizzard with no oxygen, wind chills minus 100 degrees and no chance of being rescued. I couldn't and I won't pretend to understand why anyone would want to subject themselves to such hardship-body and mind. But I don't judge either. Bless them all.
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I have not followed the whole conversation here, but I ahve followed this story considerably, and I read Into Thin Air, which I took as credible. It seemed that he likely DID put his life at risk by not turning back by the agreed upon turn around time. HE was too set on getting Doug to the top, That clouded his judgment. Not that I think he deserved death, but he made a mistake, and that did cause some of what occurred. not judging, just opining.
ellethekitty 1 month ago
RIP
vaidotas86 2 months ago
It's shameful that this guy is making jokes about people dying on Mt. Everest.
Dean0030 2 months ago
Expecto Patronum!!!!!!
oddsource 2 months ago
I'm not sure, but didnt Rob summit Everest together with his wife some time before?
XanderRhino 2 months ago
@XanderRhino Yes.
sirus804 2 months ago
I hope the Dr. didn't make buck's from this shit show.
dijukno 2 months ago
i have always wanted to just touch this great mt , but not climb it
TheatricalRemote 2 months ago 2
Considering the dude probably had to wait years on a list just to get the chance to "cue" up Everest, I'm sure he possibly had his wife's blessing at the time simply to take the opportunity of a lifetime. I'm sure it was viewed as that and not a icy coffin at the time. His wife probably wasn't even pregnant when he expressed interest to climb Everest. I don't think selfishness had a damn thing to do with it. I say I'm sure like I'm sure, but I'm not and that's just my two cents.
fifleman 3 months ago
@fifleman No mate Rob Hall led the expidition he was a world class climber and had previously had his wife as base camp manager but she was 7 months pregnant and couldnt go that year but your sentiment is right she would have expected him to return considering the fact he had climbed around eight 8000 meter peaks including everest numerous times and in two past expeditions got 35 people to the summit! its far from selfish it was his job at the end of the day to guide clients up the mountain
hauser2808 2 months ago
yes, it is moving and shocking to hear that one dies while talking to his pregnant wife, but if you think a little you realize that one should not risk his life if he knows that his death would be a much bigger loss.that is just selfish.
gezaborbely 3 months ago
wow!
waytobluee 3 months ago
Read Graham Ratcliffe's 'A Day to Die For'. After many years of investigation, he managed to uncover the fact that both Rob Hall & Scott Fischer were receiving weather forecasts and knew that a storm was blowing up. They asked Graham Ratcliffe's team to swap summiting days (which they agreed to), but the storm arrived early. Ratcliffe struggled for years with guilt, until he came across a chance comment by somebody that 'they knew the weather might be bad'. Interesting.
Ann3shoes 3 months ago
Fucking crazy!
iRunThisZone 3 months ago
@ Top Comment about him not being the only doctor on the Mountain. All the other doctor's were at Advanced Base Camp. Kamler was the only doctor on the mountain which is officially considered at camp 1 to camp 4. He was the first person to treat them people at camp 2 before they made it down to Advanced Base Camp. Two people were flown out of camp 2 before seeing any other doctors.
tmdttpc 4 months ago
Thanks for posting this!
My1968Impala 4 months ago
Interesting tale for the masses unaware in front of him, but he is factually wrong on several occasions.
That he considered himself the only Dr. was noted above, but also there were fourteen, not three, expeditions (sixteen, inc. solo attempts), that last conversation he reported with Rob Hall was by no means the last they heard from him, he seems to have decided for himself how some of the unexplained deaths happened & also, despite his pics, this happened in darkness & near zero visibility.
bodsnvimto 4 months ago
Everyone who decides to attempt to climb Everest know the risks and does so willingly. I feel terrible for all those who have perished trying to reach the summit. I read Into Thin Air and liked the book. IDK how accurate or biased it is but I do know that if u attempt something risky there always is the possibility of injury, death, ect.. No one held a gun to these peoples head and made them do this. Insult and blame is disrespectful to the dead, their families, and the survivors.
juanmart990 4 months ago
i was in banff at the festival when boukreev and krakauer had there epic confrontation..it was tense..emotional for both men..more so for anatoli.
pzpoppa 5 months ago
Come cazzo fai a far ridere la tua platea dopo una tragedia simile? Sei veramente vergognoso! E dai commenti che ho letto al video anche bugiardo! Ho letto sia il libro di Jon Krakauer che la risposta di Anatoli Boukreev! Quella del russo è la più veritiera ricostruzione dei fatti! Con le nuove tecnologie pensate, solo per soldi, di portare sugli 8000 gente che sapete che rischia la vita molto di più di veri alpinisti! Spero non ti chiamino più a tenere conferenze al riguardo! Non lo meriti!
att7125fu 5 months ago
it is THE CLIMB that gives you more accurate details on the disaster that struck. Krakauer's book, though interesting, is a little biased and does not even highlight the danger Bourkeev had put himself through while making one of the best high altitude rescues. So, THE CLIMB it is. Period.
sakshi021 5 months ago
Read Into Thin Air.
CopperheadViper 5 months ago
@voodoochild127 -- Into Thin Air is indeed a wonderful book. But Beck Weathers lied about his eyes and denied having had surgery where in truth he had had radial keratotomy. He went blind, lied about that for a day, then slowed the whole group on May 10th. He cost them at least one hour's time. More like two hours. He, not Sandy Pittman, was the poison that killed and maimed so many climbers. The storm ? Nothing unusual for Everest. For 28,000 feet... a zephyr.
blues4never 5 months ago
R.I.P. guys.
tunasanwitch 5 months ago
Dr. Henrik Jessen Hansen from Denmark was also on the mountain at camp 2 with Kamler.
JENSHORN 6 months ago
Did they ever find Harris's body?
waka19igohard 6 months ago
@waka19igohard I'm sad to say, no. The fates of both Doug Hansen and Andy Harris are still unknown, as are the locations of their bodies. I believe an ice axe was found stuck in the ice near the summit and confirmed to have been Harris's, but you may want to fact check that.
Yeahraftin 6 months ago
@waka19igohard no.
dkubs15 5 months ago
@dkubs15 yes
juanmart990 4 months ago
who knows where the love of god goes
when the wind and the snows
turn minutes to hours.
MisterBouncyBounce 6 months ago
@xiuthefeared, climbing is a sport, people make a living from it. Guides on a climb like everest are well paid. You lack even basic knowledge, yet you still comment, gotta love america.
sissyfist 6 months ago
i guess making jokes about it is how you get through being exposed to somehting this extreme. i don't think he's trying to be funny...think about it
MrJonnyrough 6 months ago
Sorry my native language isn't english. I'm not saying you have to do stuff that are extremly risky, I say you have to take risks, some people need more than others. So you wanna live a long and boring life, and when your grandchildren asks, what did you do? all you can say is "nothing" I really don't care what you think about anything, if someone wanna climb a mountain let them. Everyone is in charge of their own life.. so mate, go out and do something risky.. live a little.
xXxativuxXx 6 months ago
@xXxativuxXx First off, no one has to take risks. In fact, it it stupid to take unnecessary risks. Second, it is ridiculous to say that people who do not take extreme risks have done nothing in their lives. I can think of countless examples of people who led low risk lives who have made significant contributions to this world, and live full, rich lives. Again, I believe the best solution is to petition the governments of Nepal and China, to ban the climing of Mt. Everest.
Dean0030 6 months ago
Into Thin Air is a hatchet-job by a shameless self-publicist, in which the real hero of that climb, Anatoli Boukreev, was disgacefully defamed by Krakauer. For the record, having successfully summited without the use of supplemental O2, Boukreev left his tent on 3 separate occasions in an attempt to rescue climbers who had gotten lost on their return from the summit. What did Krakauer do to help?
joolsmcsweeney 6 months ago
@joolsmcsweeney Damn right, you should all read The Climb by Anatoli Boukreev to obtain a better perspective of what happened.
NcuevasB 6 months ago
Agree. The same was said in the movie made about these events by the IMAX team - Krakauer's story was 100% made from his perspective - someone who saved himself, and only, critizing everyone meanwhile, making zero efforts to care about anyone around.
Dinara70 5 months ago
@NcuevasB I'll second that suggestion...Into Thin Air, while a very interesting book to read, is IMO pure crap. I found The Climb to be a much more credible book.
wfjeffers1969 5 months ago
@wfjeffers1969
pure crap? why?
Lemonhead86 2 months ago
if anyone wants to know the full truth of what happened up there, then read Graham Ratcliffes "A day to die for" 2011!
craigyboy1974 6 months ago
Why do something extremely risky when your wife is 7 months pregnant? Seems a bit selfish to me...
XmegaPresident 6 months ago 19
@XmegaPresident
Because when your wife is pregnant and you have a job which pays you $40,000 for each client of which they might of had six to eight, that I think was his reason for going. Also the fact that Hall and Ball had a 100% success rate up until that year might have played a part in his thinking. As sad as it was he was doing what he was born to do.
ehfyrtehd 5 months ago
@XmegaPresident He wasn't an idiot, he has his reasons, it's also none of your business
CaptnFiretruck 2 months ago
@CaptnFiretruck I never said he was an idiot...... I don't know where you see that in my comment, but "idiot" is not in there...
XmegaPresident 2 months ago
@XmegaPresident lol my god... I can't believe i actually have to explain this to you, I never said you called him an idiot, "He wasn't an idiot" is a common thing people in north america say it means - he's smart.....
CaptnFiretruck 2 months ago
@XmegaPresident Did you read Krakeauer's book, or Anatoli Boukreev's? My guess is no, other wise you would have realized that Rob Hall was one of the best climbers in the world and had summited Everest numerous times, without supplemental oxygen. This was also his job, he made a living guiding climbers up Everest. So who are you to say that he was selfish. To him, leaving Doug on the mountain to die alone would have been selfish.
TJL21100 2 months ago
@TJL21100 Exactly
sirus804 2 months ago
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ellethekitty 1 month ago
@XmegaPresident Selfish? He was a guide. There is only one time in the year when it is okay to climb.. There was an entire team that was planning on climbing and Rob Hall was set as one of the guides to help those people. He had climbed Everest several times before. Nobody knew that there would suddenly be a blizzard.
sirus804 2 months ago
@XmegaPresident How dare you criticize his behavior, I think he paid a very high price already, we don't need your opinion. Pay some respect.
lsi058 2 months ago
@lsi058 First of all. My comment showed him no disrespect. Second, "we don't need your opinion"? everybody has an opinion you moron. Third, who are you to speak for the entire YouTube community.
Finally, (since you are new to the Youtube community, as your profile states 7/4/11 is when you become an official member), understand that the world does not revolve around you. Please do not take the "You"from tube literally.
Good Day.
XmegaPresident 2 months ago
@XmegaPresident
First, you are judging Rob Hall, and calling him selfish, I call that disrespect. It just shows your ignorance about the situation.
Second, I advise you to reed the book Into Thin Air by Jon Krakauer, It'll give you a better understanding of the actual situation.
Third, You insulting me, makes my point about your ability to respect other people.
Finally, your last point is just irrelevant since I have other accounts.
lsi058 1 month ago
@lsi058 im reading ITA in my L.A. class! good book!
TheCarolStreamKid 1 month ago
It seems idiotic for anyone to intentionally put themselves at such risk, and even more idiotic to cry about it after the fact, when the inevitable happens.
Dean0030 6 months ago
@Dean0030 You don't think he might cry because he lost friends up there?
xXxativuxXx 6 months ago
@xXxativuxXx He should cry for the children who will lose one or both parents, not the idiots who recklessly and selfishly put their own lives in jeopardy. His actions only encourage and support this type of reckless behavior, giving the climbers a false sense of security because a "doctor" is on the mountain.
Dean0030 6 months ago
@Dean0030 So if a friend of yours died doing something recklessly you wouldn't cry? What he should and shouldn't not do is kinda out of the question.. And even the two best climbers that year Rob Hall and Scott fischer lost control over the situation and died.. so by saying "intentionally put themselves at such risk" well then no one should be allowed up on any mountain in the world. Hell you're not even allowed to drive a car. You're putting yourself and others at risk.
xXxativuxXx 6 months ago
@xXxativuxXx Climbing Mt. Everest is obviously much more dangerous than driving a car. The solution is for Nepal and China to ban anyone from climbing Mt. Everest, because of the extreme risk involved. They won't do that however, because of the almighty dollar. So, rich idiots will continue to climb it, and people will continue to die. It that's what you want, then I feel sorry for you.
Dean0030 6 months ago
@Dean0030 What a stupid, pathetic comment.
joolsmcsweeney 6 months ago
@joolsmcsweeney I see you have nothing of substance to say, so I assume you are the stupid one.
Dean0030 6 months ago
@Dean0030 How can you live without taking risks, why take away free will? I doubt you've done anything right in your life, because you're to scared too.
xXxativuxXx 6 months ago
@xXxativuxXx First off, learn how to spell. Second, your arguments are idiotic. Common sense regulations are part of our every day lives. Why is it illegal to shoot heroin? Why do we have to wear seatbelts? Is it really your argument that in order to live "right" you have to do things that are extremely risky? Why don't you ask the children and spouses of the dead climbers how "right" things are?
Dean0030 6 months ago
@Dean0030 its you that has nothing of substance to say. you sound like someone who doesn't know shit about shit but thinks they do. be quite or embarrass yourself, its your choice.
MisterBouncyBounce 6 months ago
@MisterBouncyBounce First off, apparently you don't know how to spell either, so what does that say about you? Just another moron, I guess. Second, may I suggest you and your friend try to climb Mt. Everest. It would likely help the gene pool quite a bit, to have your sperm frozen at the top, rather than passing it on.
Dean0030 6 months ago
@Dean0030 It has nothing to do about money... Its about free will. How would you like it if you wanted to prove something to yourself.. If you wanted to reach a goal in life.. to do something amazing.. But then the government says, "fuck you. you can't. its dangerous." With that logic everything dangerous should be banned. Guns, cars, pools, alcohol, cigarettes, unprotected sex, autoerotic asphyxiation, etc... hell even suicide. Its called having free will. Think before you speak.
sirus804 2 months ago
@sirus804 Governments can and do impose common sense regulations in our everyday lives, such as don't do drugs, wear your seatbelt, and don't climb up the side of that 100 story building. Likewise, the FDA regulates the food we eat to ensure that it is as safe as possible. If there was a product on the market that killed 10% of the people that used it, people would be outraged, and the government would rightly ban it. For Mt. Everest, one person dies for every 10 who make the summit.
Dean0030 2 months ago
@Dean0030 Governments TRY to impose such laws.. Except human nature ignores such rules. People do illegal drugs anyway. Besides, it'd be virtually impossible to try to impose such a law. What? Is the government going to put police all over the Himalayas? Everest's death rate is rather tame compared to some of the other eight-thousanders in Himalaya. Also, you have your facts wrong. Everest's death rate isn't 10%. 1/10 for every SUCCESSFUL summit. Many attempt and fail. It isn't 10%.
sirus804 2 months ago
@sirus804 If you are an advocate for illegal drug use, and risky behavior of all kinds, then you make my point for me. And my fact is correct: one person dies for every 10 who make the summit. If there was an airplane that crashed one time for every 10 successful flights, that model would be grounded. I suggest you get off the drugs, and re-think your arguments. Happy Thanksgiving.
Dean0030 2 months ago
@Dean0030 When did I ever say that? You're an idiot. I talk about freewill and how its impossible for the government to enforce such a ridiculous law..Then your response is that I'm a druggy... Lmao.
sirus804 2 months ago
@sirus804 You're the idiot, and frankly not worth my time. The bottom line is that people should not put their lives at risk unnecessarily, particularly if they have a spouse and children.
Dean0030 2 months ago
@Dean0030 I agree. But, Rob Hall didn't put his life at risk unnecessarily.
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ellethekitty 1 month ago
@Dean0030 mountaineers are very smart people and they know what they are doing. I don't see anything bad in risk. Some people live boring slave lifes and die like a rats and some people have adventurous live and die doint what they like to do. After all there is no safe way of living...
vaidotas86 2 months ago 2
@vaidotas86 It's not very smart to end up frozen near the top of Mt. Everest, particularly when that person has children waiting for them at home. Getting killed in a freak accident is very different than intentionally engaging in an activity that has a high mortality rate. Playing Russian Roulette may be exciting, but it is certainly not smart.
Dean0030 2 months ago
@Dean0030 I agree with what you just said. You took the words right from my mouth! :)
musicproducer16 1 month ago
Power of thought. 25 watts of electricity generated by the brain can provide YOUR miracle too. Beck Weathers survived because he DECIDED to ... What do you think??
amazinggrace5478 6 months ago
Name Mr. Madan KC , the highest mountain helicopter pilot to rescue the survived. He was in Nepal Army. Now freelancer in Kathmandu. He should not be omitted . He is quite courageous young man.
MrLaxmansharma 6 months ago
This is pretty scary. Still able to see bodies that look like people sitting there. And to here the story of Beck when he was left for dead. I havent finished "Into thin Air" but it sounds like most of the people get seperated and caught in storms.
LawlzoreKing 6 months ago
read the climb another version off 1996 everest view
akrataunholia 7 months ago
@mteverest53 Go fuck yourself. I'll say what ever the fuck I want!
WizardOfChicamunga 7 months ago
@maxissocool12
paint it black? seriously? like he took the time to paint his face black after all he had been through? O.o
Look up "frostbite" on wikipedia...
ultimaIXultima 7 months ago
Into Thin Air, Hell of a book. couldnt put it down.
mbmags1111 7 months ago
@mbmags1111 i just read that book it was great!!!!!!!!! in a sad way. God be with the ones who didnt come back!
stewartlin100 7 months ago
-40 and 20 mph winds, a typical winter day in Laramie, Wyoming
SuperOlds88 7 months ago
Sounds like Mount Everest is like war... why would somebody go up there?
barrettski189 7 months ago
@barrettski189 Because it's there!
rhondamaddgirl 7 months ago
At 18:05 I see a middle finger, so I guess that the guy was thinking "Fuck this shit" and then got up and got to the camp. :)
at2at 7 months ago
Rob Hall was a weenie! Now Rob Hall is just a frozen weenie!
WizardOfChicamunga 7 months ago
@WizardOfChicamunga That is fucking disrespectful get a life
narutoshippudenclara 6 months ago
@narutoshippudenclara I happen to have one I like already, cock breath! Now go fuck yourself!
WizardOfChicamunga 6 months ago
@WizardOfChicamunga Your a dick. You disrespect the diseased so don't call me any names just be ashamed of your own showing.
narutoshippudenclara 6 months ago
@narutoshippudenclara It looks like the only bigger dumbfuck that rob hall is you! Congratulations!
WizardOfChicamunga 6 months ago
@WizardOfChicamunga Jesus don't you feel any remorse at all when you insult not only me but diseased people as well?
narutoshippudenclara 6 months ago
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WizardOfChicamunga 6 months ago
@narutoshippudenclara Don't be a dumbshit! He knew the odds and still made his decision. Even knowing full well the repercussions for his family should his self centered act go south. If you think he's some kind of saintly martyr then great, that only serves to show how shallow and narrow minded you are. Now don't expect me to join the 'happy' throng that marches to a drum of ignorance, and do it in the name of some kind of holy and dignified (albeit imaginary) altruism... Chow baby!
WizardOfChicamunga 6 months ago
@WizardOfChicamunga You don't get it at all. Your trying to make me feel remorse because I am showing respect? Fuck you. It was his job to do what his clients wanted, and that was get them to the top. Not only that, but if you were paying attention you would know that the storm came in too quickly for him to make any calls. And he chose to stay behind with a weaker client who couldn't make it off. He had every chance to make it off alive but he refused to leave a climber behind. Get a life.
narutoshippudenclara 6 months ago
The body can achieve what the mind can perceive.
TRZbebop675 7 months ago
Wow this video gave me chills! it's going to inspire me to climb!
HernandezMU 8 months ago
Dr. Kamler's claim of having been "the only Doctor on the mountain" is false.
Dr. Caroline Mackenzie: Team doctor for Adventure Consultants (Base Camp)
Dr. John Taske: Client on Adventure Consultants
Dr. Ingrid Hunt: Team doctor for Mountain Madness
and a number of other members of the expeditions were doctors as well.
It interests me that he made jokes about falling off the ridge, since many climbers have died doing just that, possibly including Guide Andy Harris in the 1996 storm.
Yeahraftin 8 months ago 29
@Yeahraftin yea thats not cool to fucking crack jokes when talking about something this serious
TehAWAL 6 months ago
@Yeahraftin yeah and Dr. Beck Weathers with the mountain madness expedition
myPlaygroundEarth 6 months ago
@Yeahraftin Beck Weathers is a doctor. He was part of Jon Krakauer's expedition.
MrFrankBullitt 6 months ago
@Yeahraftin on the mountain could mean above base camp. He would be the only doctor who could do shit b/c the others were down at base camp.
MrGlacierNova 4 months ago
@MrGlacierNova
While it could certainly be interpreted that way, he'd still be false in claiming so. Taske and Hunt were both at or above camp 4 at the time of the disaster. I'm certainly not saying he didn't do a great deal to help, I'm just saying he wasn't the solitary doctor, nor the only one who coordinated/provided medical aid.
Yeahraftin 4 months ago
@Yeahraftin I see. Sorry if it seemed like I was trying to correct you.
MrGlacierNova 4 months ago
They were up way too long - he broke all his own rules. Weird, he was such a professional and so conscientious about safety. Seems like he just thought he had so much more time than he did and could babysit all those people up and then down. Any rookie knows its as hard going down as up - you're so exhausted. So sad, that.
sinclairjg 8 months ago
12,000 feet. You will reach terminal velocity at that hight, may as well bring a wing suit and have a bit of fun on your way down.
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Hindunation 9 months ago
Selfish buggers, it's like they don't even care if they die, they don't care about their own lives or the lives of anyone else.
themightyrara 9 months ago
This commercial is 1/20th the length of this clip
AlexFreconHD 9 months ago
detour to avoid steeper slopes that stretched between them and Camp Four because of the zero visibility they were experiencing in the storm. So they ventured off to the East and overshot Camp Four by 1000 feet. This is where they created the notorious "huddle" which lasted out through the night" After experiencing a night of fierce weather, the strong climbers left to retrieve help. When help finally arrived after teachers had spent valuable time looking in the wrong place, Beck and Namba were
RETRONEXT 9 months ago
To set the record straight, according to Krakauer's Into Thin Air, Beck Weathers and Yasuko Namba, the two climbers that were supposedly passed, were not "left to die". To start off with it is important to know that they were not "passed" on the trail, nor were they on the trail at all. When coming down the mountain to Camp Four, Neal Bieldeman the guide they happen to be following, decided that the group of 11 climbers that included Beck and Namba would take a detour to avoid steeper slopes t
RETRONEXT 9 months ago
That's so sad :(
crazypianolady 9 months ago
Chuck Norris summited Everest in a speedo and skied down on his total gym. He also renamed the Death Zone the CHUCK ZONE. He bought property on the summit and winters there.
jpeete 9 months ago
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BabeiaPattyay709 10 months ago
MURDERING BASTARDS THE KOREAN DOGS WALKING PAST DYING MEN ON THEIR SELFISH WAY TO THE SUMMITS ...UTTER PIECES OF KOREAN SHIT.
findlaymcarthur 10 months ago
@findlaymcarthur Before you post your stupid coments read about what it's like to climb Everest !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bazyli1983 9 months ago
@Bazyli1983 I have done a lot of climbing and there is NO EXCUSE for those inhuman KOREAN SHITS
findlaymcarthur 9 months ago
INTO THIN AIR. read it
Spammmz 10 months ago 14
@Spammmz Just finished it! Great book!
juanmart990 7 months ago
@Spammmz ese libro es una basura. Què decis?
Robytsu 7 months ago
@Spammmz ese libro es una basura. Què decis?
Robytsu 7 months ago
@Spammmz Yes, read it and then must read 'The Climb' for a much more realistic and sensible account.
AnatoleBelge 7 months ago
@Spammmz
Also, try 'The Death Zone' by Matt Dickinson. He was on the north side at the very same time, trying to film a fat, aging English actor, Brian Blessed, in his attempt to summit. It is a fascinating read &, unlike 'Into Thin Air' it shows you the standard routes up & pics of the people involved on both sides of the mountain. Thus the readers who don't know either, get more involved, still.
bodsnvimto 4 months ago
You must be selfish to climb mount everest. :)
grahamrocks1 10 months ago
@vickizspace You are confusing not respecting someone, with being jealous of someone.
NotSureWhatToPut 10 months ago
Is Fischers body also still up there? Its kind of scary to think that Hall and the others are still just laying there after all these years.
Pentdad 10 months ago
@Pentdad well there's 41 bodies on the north face alone. when they found mallory he still looked fresh, everybody's in cryo up there.
SuperBoomstick 10 months ago
@SuperBoomstick One thing though dude, it would kill it if they ever introduced safety measures like the super chopper which is actually available. I applaud the people over there for resisting namby pamby safety and keeping it dangerous. Everest minus danger is like a cake without sugar.
Pentdad 10 months ago
@Pentdad I agree?
SuperBoomstick 10 months ago
@Pentdad Just imagine where Andy Harris is.
CobraGTXNoS 10 months ago
@CobraGTXNoS Harris will be down at the bottom probably buried under a load of snow wont he? He fell off. I heard that Fischer is actually the picture you sometimes see on the net of a guy sitting down with a skull for a face.
Pentdad 10 months ago
@Pentdad Reading that book in class was interesting, "Into Thin Air" it was. Yeah, I feel sorry for Rob Halls family, right when he just had a kid two months later. Fischer was pretty awesome too.
CobraGTXNoS 10 months ago
@Pentdad Fischer and Hall, if they are still up there, have been up there since 1996. George Mallory, who may very well really be the first man to summit Everest, (it could not be determined if he was on his way up or on his way down) was found and he had been up there since 1924. A little bit longer than Fischer or Hall.
skylur44 9 months ago
@skylur44 any idea who the 'skull' picture is of you can find on google images? I heard it was Scott Fischer.
Pentdad 9 months ago
@Pentdad Sorry no I don't but I did find out they got Mallory down and buried him, so he is not still up there. I believe Fischer and Hall are, apparently too difficult to get them down, or that's what I read.
skylur44 9 months ago
@skylur44 I am afraid you have made an inaccurate assumption, George Mallory's body was not moved and he was buried ( body covered with rocks ) where he was found high on the mountain. That 1999 Expedition " The Search For Mallory & Irvine " had expected to find the body of Sandy and I understand had spoken to Irvine's family before going, to try and observe their wishes, Mallory's family were not asked but did want his body to stay high on Chomolungma where is still lies
sicodaddy 9 months ago
@sicodaddy I stand corrected. It was not an assumption, it was in an article I read, I never presume to assume anything, so obviously you know the facts and the article I read was incorrect.
skylur44 9 months ago
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@skylur44 I am afraid you have made an inaccurate assumption, George Mallory's body was not moved and he was buried ( body covered with rocks ) where he was found high on the mountain. That 1999 Expedition " The Search For Mallory & Irvine " had expected to find the body of Sandy and I understand had spoken to Irvine's family before going, to try and observe their wishes, Mallory's family were not asked but did want his body to stay high on Chomolungma where he still lies
sicodaddy 9 months ago
This is soo sad :'(
bluefroggies5 10 months ago
lmao, climb just before/during morning. the ice is the most solid then because it freezes
kaipakta 10 months ago
I have mad respect for mountaineers who pursue a challenge like this! more respect to the people who have passed up there(trying their best). The human heart is brave, but these climbers are a mountain of bravement !
Durantula34 10 months ago
I don't consider my self a hero in any way shape or form but I can not understand how someone could excuse, never mind just living the rest of your life with the knowledge that you left some one to die even if the effort seemed hopeless at the time. I just couldn't look myself in the mirror again I would be better off dying. There are worse thing than death.
blobdy 10 months ago
@blobdy Sometimes people have to be left though. Lots of people do try to help others down, but if your way to high up then rescue is almost impossible and there is a good chance you will become another statistic. Rob Hall could have survived had he left the person he was guiding for dead, but he didn't. Rob Hall became another statistic trying to help. During the 96 disaster many people made multiple trips up the mountain trying to help people, such as the IMAX team and sherpas.
b4igetu 8 months ago
@vickizspace Well it seems to me from reading and watching multiple accounts of people just being left to die that the only difference on a mountain is a general lack of morals. When u read accounts of forty people walking by someone to summit that isn't a lack of energy it's a lack of caring. It costs a person about 60,000 dollars to summit Everest. a life should be considered as worth more. maybe one can't get someone off of Everest but what about 40? it took less than that to get Beck down.
blobdy 10 months ago
@vickizspace
Yes I agree with you, but that was just a fact from the book.
isnormalityareality 10 months ago
Amazing! Respect to all people who managed just to try! It is already far beyond most of the people in this planet can imagine.
hishula 10 months ago
I wish I was white and privileged enough to climb landforms that no one gives a fuck about.
ballinben07 11 months ago
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@ballinben07
why so angry?
MrPeace2mind 11 months ago
@ballinben07 i think you got that backwards you mean you wish you was white because nobody gives a fuck about you so you should go climb landforms and jump off of them because your a dirty colored minority fuck that again wishes belonged to the supreme far superior white race which whoam own & run this world? keep dreamin
RandyFoxKiller 10 months ago
@isnormalityreality Hillary was in no position to dictate what way climbers approached climbing Everest.Certainly some climbers were not ready to take on a climb of such magnitude and were probably not vetted correctly. Having said this time had moved on from the year Hillary reached the top. Peoples thirst for adventure became unquenchable.looking at all the evidence I believe Mallory made it to the top in 1924.
cetieel 11 months ago
@cetieel
That was an event mentioned in the book. So don't get mad at me. Anyway you're probably right about Mallory, but I'd have to re-read the book again.
isnormalityareality 10 months ago
key00992233 that coment was to add to your post
blobdy 11 months ago
Right on the money dude! I would like to add one other point. Knowing the risks and the huge possibility of death he stayed with his client till the end. That man is an absolute hero in my opinion. This wasn't a life long friend this was a client. If he had managed to survive that ordeal he would have been lauded as one by the world. There was a number of people there that didn't do a damned thing.
blobdy 11 months ago
you need to climb when your 30 and have trained since you were 3
guyfawks72 11 months ago
I wonder how fit you have to be to actually have a real chance of reaching the summit there.: )
winterstellar 11 months ago
Now, you can reach this with Heli ;)
justanotherfreak2008 11 months ago
@justanotherfreak2008 They could use a chopper back then, however theres no fear, danger, and excitement of climbing the highest mountain in the world when your in a chopper.
Blaze7557 11 months ago
Why all the criticsm of Rob Hall?!?
Yes his wife was pregnant but no he wasn't selfish climbing the mountain that was his job!!Scott also climbed for a living
On anyones argument it's luke saying that a steeplejack or a racing driver should stop working while their wives are pregnant?!
He was a total professional and no one could have predicted the storm
Like Ger mc Donnell and the others on K2 in 2008 they were in a no win situation
Always remember they paid for it with their lives
cetieel 11 months ago 21
@cetieel
Because his childhood hero Sr. Edmund Hillary, who was a well respected climber. The first successful British climber to Everest, I think, publically criticized Rob Hall for comercializing Everest. Well that is one way Rob got a lot of criticism.
isnormalityareality 11 months ago
@cetieel - also, his wife, Arnold, was an experienced climber/mountaineer in her own right. They met during one their climbs.
jujubeyuan 8 months ago