La riflessione era doppia: di accesso, modo travestito di aggirare la franchezza - sputare sul suo lavoro. E forse per gelosia: come lui, puo ottenere tanto successo, e io, autore del "best opera yet writen", sottomesso alla censura di questa corte ed alla precarietà?
Paragonarlo a Mozart, è fargli oltraggio ; la sua orchestrazione è quella di un giovane inesperto, le sue armonie sono grossolane comparate a queste del caro piccolo prodigio. Tuttavia, già compositore ufficiale della corte a questa epoca: ciò mostra che non sarà mai il suo uguale.
"solo ascoltando certa musica si puo dire: Salieri". Ma è appena un insulto mascherato, perche è talmente malo, mediocre, che solo Salieri avrà potè scrivere una simile musica :
I can only agree with gregpdx1970. Salieri was portrayed as "mediocre" in the movie because it suited the plot, and thanks to the movie "Amadeus" many people have found this remarkable composer who without any obvious reason had been rather forgotten.
I have heard this music since before I was ever born. I have heard this version, I just came from a concert at the Eglise Madelaine in Paris with the 'traditional version'. It doesn't matter - it is STILL both so dark, so sad, so joyous and so heavenly at them same time. I stared at the frescos, not the choral or quartet, and..... I understood. This music makes you WANT to die and be lifted up to heaven... And yes, believe me, HE wrote it.
@andymccoy I would suggest that we all are put in awe by different things. The fact that this finale doesn't do that for you is fine. It does for me. We all have different tastes. Some people are in awe of Britney Spears, for Chris's sake :-p
This was released months apart from Don Giovanni. Compare this to the finale of Act 1 of Don Giovanni if you want to get an idea of what the two men were doing at a similar point in time.
I have one question to ask...Everyone just knows things like "Eine Kliene Nachtmusik" and Mozarts 40th Symphony so why the hell does no-one know this? This is amazing!
@ClassicalMusicPL I don't mean amazing in the sense that it's very good. I mean amazing as in it leaves you in awe. this is fine, it sounds like Italian Gluck, but it certainly doesn't leave me in awe.
It's laughably ironic that this is from "the greatest opera ever written" according to the praises of Vienna of the 18th century, and yet this is NOTHING and NOWHERE today...everyone's heard of La Boheme or Madame Butterfly but who raves about Salieri's Axur Re D'Ormus! I wish they would produce this opera today
@nightwish0111 I read Mozarts love of pork is suspected in doing him in, ala trichnosis. Will we ever know? By the way what is quicksilver and what does it do?
@tpc326 Quicksilver is pure Mercury (Hg), oft used in barometers & thermometers. At standard atmospheric pressure & temp it's a heavy silver liquid with a strong surface tension. When spilled, Hg beads up & rolls about quickly. It was a treatment for depression & stress. Eventually, it was found to have nasty effects —Abraham Lincoln had to recover from his treatment. It was much used in the making of felt for hat making —hence "Mad as a Hatter". Seafood with Hg causes Minimata disease, .
In the film you get the sense that Salieri was the only person who recognised Mozart's genius, even better than Mozart himself. People usually dismiss him as a mediocrity, but it was his profound understanding and love of music that led to this envy. I think it's not a film about Mozart, but a film about Salieri and his 'sickness'.
I really loved "Amadeus". I know it was a totally fictionalized account of the lives of Salieri and Mozart; that said, I'm really grateful I saw it, because it inspired me to look into Salieri's music. He composed some amazing stuff!
@gregpdx1970 Actually the life of Mozart depicted in the film is pretty exact. The only historical inaccuracy is Salieri and the relationship he had with Mozart. Some historians however, question Mozart may not have been that much of a drunk.
La riflessione era doppia: di accesso, modo travestito di aggirare la franchezza - sputare sul suo lavoro. E forse per gelosia: come lui, puo ottenere tanto successo, e io, autore del "best opera yet writen", sottomesso alla censura di questa corte ed alla precarietà?
SocrateAdmirer 2 weeks ago
Paragonarlo a Mozart, è fargli oltraggio ; la sua orchestrazione è quella di un giovane inesperto, le sue armonie sono grossolane comparate a queste del caro piccolo prodigio. Tuttavia, già compositore ufficiale della corte a questa epoca: ciò mostra che non sarà mai il suo uguale.
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"solo ascoltando certa musica si puo dire: Salieri". Ma è appena un insulto mascherato, perche è talmente malo, mediocre, che solo Salieri avrà potè scrivere una simile musica :
SocrateAdmirer 2 weeks ago
An incredibly inspiring piece of music. Bravo, Maestro Salieri.
ASonOfLiberty1776 1 month ago
There's a piece of music (can't think what it is) composed by mozart that has phrases similar to a piece composed by salieri.
chromatic8 2 months ago
I can only agree with gregpdx1970. Salieri was portrayed as "mediocre" in the movie because it suited the plot, and thanks to the movie "Amadeus" many people have found this remarkable composer who without any obvious reason had been rather forgotten.
msvensso 2 months ago
Salieri wasn't bad at all...he was amazing!
But Mozart is...Mozart! :)
TheLadyAuditore 5 months ago 2
axur-------------the best music i have ever heard
guspleite 5 months ago
I was gonna do one of those things like '30 people are huge fans of Mozart' but then I realized that there is no dislikes.
MrSeanAgain 7 months ago 2
@MrSeanAgain There is one now. How dare you even mention this man in the same sentence as Mozart!
person1756 6 months ago
@person1756 xD lol!
MrSeanAgain 6 months ago
Axur finale was the best opera written by salieri, it said that it was even a better opera than don giovanni
mabeg11 7 months ago
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I have heard this music since before I was ever born. I have heard this version, I just came from a concert at the Eglise Madelaine in Paris with the 'traditional version'. It doesn't matter - it is STILL both so dark, so sad, so joyous and so heavenly at them same time. I stared at the frescos, not the choral or quartet, and..... I understood. This music makes you WANT to die and be lifted up to heaven... And yes, believe me, HE wrote it.
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08scamp 8 months ago
Salieri the Great compouser
remer1944 8 months ago
@andymccoy I would suggest that we all are put in awe by different things. The fact that this finale doesn't do that for you is fine. It does for me. We all have different tastes. Some people are in awe of Britney Spears, for Chris's sake :-p
PDXGregor 9 months ago
@PDXGregor Chris's sake? Who is this 'Chris' you speak of? heh, sorry, it just sounded funny :)
KaminariMori 3 months ago
HA! Thats too many notes for me. Pft! hehe
LittleGothick 10 months ago
This was released months apart from Don Giovanni. Compare this to the finale of Act 1 of Don Giovanni if you want to get an idea of what the two men were doing at a similar point in time.
devilxhlywood 10 months ago
I never knew music like that was possible! When one hears such sounds, what can one say but.......Salieri.
mozartsmusicblog 10 months ago 3
I have one question to ask...Everyone just knows things like "Eine Kliene Nachtmusik" and Mozarts 40th Symphony so why the hell does no-one know this? This is amazing!
Deathawaitsnoone 10 months ago 3
@ClassicalMusicPL I don't mean amazing in the sense that it's very good. I mean amazing as in it leaves you in awe. this is fine, it sounds like Italian Gluck, but it certainly doesn't leave me in awe.
andymccoy10 10 months ago
It's laughably ironic that this is from "the greatest opera ever written" according to the praises of Vienna of the 18th century, and yet this is NOTHING and NOWHERE today...everyone's heard of La Boheme or Madame Butterfly but who raves about Salieri's Axur Re D'Ormus! I wish they would produce this opera today
AmericanEvita 1 year ago
Senz'altro il compositore più sfigato, odiato e sottovalutato nella storia della musica...
ma cazzo, un grande. Non quanto Mozart, ma un grande.
bachinblack94 1 year ago
ah the big bang:) clap clap clap
sexyybaby314 1 year ago 2
Bravo Salieri!!!
tpc326 1 year ago
zero dislikes ? you people have good taste :)
JEatsbabies 1 year ago
Salieri poisoned Mozart, with quicksilver.
nightwish0111 1 year ago
@nightwish0111 I read Mozarts love of pork is suspected in doing him in, ala trichnosis. Will we ever know? By the way what is quicksilver and what does it do?
tpc326 1 year ago
@tpc326 Quicksilver is pure Mercury (Hg), oft used in barometers & thermometers. At standard atmospheric pressure & temp it's a heavy silver liquid with a strong surface tension. When spilled, Hg beads up & rolls about quickly. It was a treatment for depression & stress. Eventually, it was found to have nasty effects —Abraham Lincoln had to recover from his treatment. It was much used in the making of felt for hat making —hence "Mad as a Hatter". Seafood with Hg causes Minimata disease, .
RnBramwell 11 months ago
@RnBramwell Thank you for the explaination. I appreciate it.
tpc326 10 months ago
In the film you get the sense that Salieri was the only person who recognised Mozart's genius, even better than Mozart himself. People usually dismiss him as a mediocrity, but it was his profound understanding and love of music that led to this envy. I think it's not a film about Mozart, but a film about Salieri and his 'sickness'.
nurjatulurjus 1 year ago
According to the Austrian Emperor and the Vienna public of Mozart's time, this opera by Antonio Salieri, was THE GREATEST OPERA EVER WRITTEN.
AmericanEvita 1 year ago 2
THE best music i have ever heard
guspleite 1 year ago
wonderfulllllllllllllllllll THE BEST
guspleite 1 year ago
A forgotten masterrpiece. Should be performed more often.
jdewitt77 1 year ago 6
solo ascoltando certa musica si puo dire:Salieri
buffetosca 2 years ago 10
I really loved "Amadeus". I know it was a totally fictionalized account of the lives of Salieri and Mozart; that said, I'm really grateful I saw it, because it inspired me to look into Salieri's music. He composed some amazing stuff!
gregpdx1970 2 years ago 20
And Mozart was right! Salieri was in its time the best composer of Vienna! I love him :-)
AdaCordella 2 years ago 2
@gregpdx1970 Actually the life of Mozart depicted in the film is pretty exact. The only historical inaccuracy is Salieri and the relationship he had with Mozart. Some historians however, question Mozart may not have been that much of a drunk.
thierry2001 1 year ago
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@gregpdx1970
" I know it was a totally fictionalized account of the lives of Salieri and Mozart; that said"
Wrong putz, the only fiction in Amadeus was Mozart and Constanze's lives.
Movie should had been called Salieri, but no one would had watched it.
The entire premise of the movie is having passion with no talent.
Romansteel13 1 year ago
@gregpdx1970 Name one piece that Salieri composed that was "amazing".
andymccoy10 10 months ago
Uplifting!
aoimozart 2 years ago