gravmass. perfecly put. It's a fucking joyous indulgence to be given music of this calibre. it's nothing short of genius and it gets me going every time.
@Rao665 yeah, if you sit on your computer and talk shit like you are so much better than everyone because you know one Pogues song, then you must be so proud
@cubesolver344 If the suspense hasn't killed you already I am sure it is by Fields of Fire by Big Country which would have been fairly contemporary with this tune.
@leapoffaith20 Yeah, and was sober once in a while :P. He's really in his prime here. Shame his hard living has taken such a toll on his talent, but we've got some of the greatest songs ever as his legacy.
What the fuck is wrong with people that, in the glare of exceptional talent, they focus on the trivialities? Does everyone have to be clean-cut-commercial? For goodness sakes, enjoy the share brilliance, the shining beauty that is such well written songs and dammit, celebrate our frailties. If you want to be part of the "fit in and be pretty" group, then move to a gated community and listen to commercial radio.
Fan of The Pogues? Check out their friends Greenland Whalefishers from Norway (est. 1994)! Critics today says Greenland Whalefishers has taken the heritage from The Pogues and developed it into something different and their own. Punk fanzines all over the world describes Greenland Whalefishers as The Pogues on speed or The Pogues turned up to eleven on attitude, speed and sound. Google for Greenland Whalefishers website for more info, videos and lyrics!!!
@neohip Actually I was thoroughly enjoying the music... but I was unable to think of a comment to adequately express my appreciation. So I made a comment on the teeth, and I meant it as a compliment! It's a great set of PunchedInTheFace kinda teeth.
If I had teeth like that I'd wear 'em with pride. Alas, I was confined to numerous retainers and sets of braces as a child and thus denied the pleasure and the pride.
Incidenlty, my childhood braces tragedy was rectified by the fact that I had an Irish nanny. She taught me Psalms, Gaelic expressions and she always listened to The Saw Doctors. Check them out if you haven't already. "I usta lover" is a good one...
Hurrah! A voice of reason. WTF would anyone come and listen to such exceptional and inspired talent and then go on to criticise the appearance of the lead singer? Do they only appreciate the generic and commercial? If so, then why are they even checking such brilliance out in the first place? Sheesh!
I critique myself every time I look in the mirror,but not as such often to others,especially when I do not know them,but they are obviously far more talented than anyone I am ever met in my life.
To see that ignorance is still thriving, is heart breaking
This is the Mahones at their best! wasnt it great that they were waiting for us in London when Brian Lenihan told us all to get out to fuck in the mid 1980's. their music did more for us than any self aid!
would have gone to this but was only 7 lol but still remember watching it live on rte it was a saturday think the boys came on bout 3 or 4pm ive been obsesed with THE POGUES since 1985 when my dad first showed me them on tv
i love yanks because they gave us money for guns during the 1916 rising to bad the stupid germans arived 3 days early with our guns and got the ship sunk by the huns GIVE THIS A THUMBS UP IF YOU WANT TO THANK THE YANKS
Right, my last word on this, I think I've got it. The song is set at the funeral wake of Big Jim Dwyer, an Irish American, who's body will be shipped hom to Ireland, " the shores where his fathers lay ". The singer, hearing " uncles giving lectures on ancient Irish history " decides he will leave " New York city boys, Boston and PA " and go to Ireland as well. It's a nice twist by Shane on the usual Irish emigrating to America. Here, the narrator is going from the States to Ireland.
I thought this was the usual Irish emigration to the States fare but now I think it is the other way. An American is at a funeral wake and decides to go to Ireland after relatives talk about the old country.
I used to think the song was the usual Irish emigration to Amerikay but now I think it is actually the other way. A guy in the States is at a funeral wake and relatives start talking about the old country so he decides he will go to Ireland, " to the shores where his fathers lay ". Why would an American say " the yanks they were within " though ?
Does Shane MacGowan ever still preform live? I know it would be a much "different" experience today given his years of partying & their toll, but I would still KILL to see him play once ;-)
He always sings with his eyes shut, so wonderful ;-)
Yeah I would say he def did that on purpose. Pogues were into that English scene of Two Tone era. Even though they weren't IN it. they were INTO IT. and the two tone guys used to sample that song. in solos and such. so it makes snese.
Now I know why the folks strapped an accordian on me at 5 years of age! Hopes and dreams of me playing this. Well, whattaya reckon? Life is strange....
man shane mcgowan is one ugly son of a bitch but ill be damned if he isnt an amazing singer, and everything he sings he sings completely plastered which blows my mind hahahaha love the pogues, wish shane would try to keep himself in tact so we can have him for a bit longer hahahaha
This is such a great song. It speaks to me on some gutteral almost genetic level. Even if the lyrics werent so close to my heart, the music itself sounds like something I heard a long time ago.
dudes all ure doin is runin the song by this arguin im not gona say i know what its about so dont leave hate male but the whole point of music is to unite people
You have a Ph.D and you feel the need to talk down to people on YouTube? What did you write your thesis on - "Anal Retentive Behavior and How to Talk Back to Your Mom"? Jesus.
ziegler your a fucking cunt for not knowing your history and j4ck I'm not sure who your listening to but your need to check your sources. Without the US the allies likely lose africa to rommell and without the d-day invasion primarily spearheaded by the Americans opening up a two front War Germany chances of fending off the Russians would have been much greater. reason our casulty numbers are so low compared to USSR we never had to fight on our own soil except PH. And the russian forces werehuge
lol the germans had no chance whatsoever to stop or even (lol) defeat the red army. At the time it was even clear that the east european partisans would shake off the invaders. (you know the few million armed guerillas behind german lines)
The only goal of the american invasion was to get a piece of the cake. (or to contain russia if you will)
(+africa was quite irrelevant, it never had a high priority..I think the goal was to satisfy the italian allies)
lol the only asses the US soldiers kicked were those of the japanese. +the US didn't really save anyone..US intervention in WWI led to the rise of Hitler (+Stalin) and WWII was pretty much over before the US got involved. (the soviet union stopped the nazis)
You're right. I'll just go take my Ph.D and burn it. Dumbass, The US hit the bulk of the resistance on D-Day in France. The Brits and Canadians fought bravely, but met much less resistance. The Red Army did a lot, but the US sacrificed greatly for "Old Europe." But you can go think what you want you dumbass
Listen I am a fucking American... but do the math, Germany had roughly 130-160 divisions on the Eastern Front while only 34 in France.
Without the Red Army the war would have been lost. Without American equipment and aid both UK and Russia would have been knocked out of the fight AND without Britian, that tiny couragous bastard of an Island, standing against the Germans alone for a solid year, yes the war would have also been lost.
Soviet casualties: military circa 10million, civilian circa 13million
American casualties: circa 400k
Hollywood tends to exaggerate the american role..+the number is furthermore inflated because the american military establishment was quite incompetent. After the war the US military was drastically altered because the german troops were able to inflict 50% more damages in every situation. And that with manpower, fuel and equipment shortages.
I am only a quarter Irish, an American, but when I hear this song it sends a chill up my spine and I get this surge of energy, the need to either dance, fight or drink, most of all it makes me smile...
Wow, that was fucking bonzer! What festival was this? Cait was still in the band. Just love their rendition of this. Spider Stacey plays 'the guns of navarone' on his tin whistle during the bridge and it fits in nicely. I like how they included this on the reissue of Rum, Sodomy & the Lash. <3 The Pogues!
Just out of curiosity, Wisard 734, which IS the best country around??? I keep looking, but I never see lines of people trying to get OUT of America. No, it's not perfect...but seriously...in your opinion, which is the best country, all around. I'm still not leaving, for I love the USA, and all my Celtic ancestors.
You could be on to something wis734...or could be stereotyping...still, I think most Americans would choose to live here, even if given their choice of living in any other country. With all it's warts and moles, most of us are content with being Americans. If that makes us full of ourselves...well I guess we are. But isn't that true of most people of whatever their country of birth happens to be.? Were I born in Eng., Fr., Ireland, Poland, etc. I probably would think they were the best!
And why should we not be? We are young and yet have so much under our belt. I am so sick and tired of the trend of hating the U.S. Americans need to get more PRIDE in this grate country. That is the only way to get it better not a black leader, Republican, or ever a Democrat. If you are a male American reading this find the nearest, roundest, best thigh havenest, fattest ass having, big American tit possessing girl you can and make love to her with the U.S.A.'s flag tied on you like a cape!
I'm not quite sure what you mean. But if you can find a phrase which rivals "I'm a free-born man of the USA" to encapsulate everything it means to be born in this country, I'd certainly love for you to send me the link to it. I'd also like to point out that Shane McGowan wrote that line and he is Irish, thus explaining my original post.
I'm Irish and American so If I wrote a good line which side do I fall on? I hate people who put down America and especially it's damn fine people! That's what I mean. And yes, this is a very good song, I have no bad Judgment against it only good.
Ah, I see. I didn't mean to put down Americans, I was more trying to compliment the poetic tradition of Ireland. Even within this tradition, Shane McGowan stands out. There was no denigration intended in my original post. And I guess that being Irish and American means you fall on the awesome side?
ok im sorry i was being dumb by posting that comment. i was too quick to judge i agree. what dont i get? and is this irish punk rock because im starting to like it.
The Pogues and especially Shane have a charm about them that some people wouldn't get. Check out their soong the turkish song of the damned. As I said, some get it some don't.
Then on the 7th day God rested & took a shit, what came out was the pogues, God saw it & that it was good, and the Lord proclaimed "The Pogues are... the Shit!"
gravmass. perfecly put. It's a fucking joyous indulgence to be given music of this calibre. it's nothing short of genius and it gets me going every time.
phin326 1 month ago
What A Talanted Bunch They Where....!!! Brought Ireland to the world from a diaspora point of view... & it rocked!!!
rourkey7 1 month ago
good footage!
kaaosHEX 1 month ago
I love how you can see Shane MacGowan take a swig of beer when the song goes into the bridge.
RansomII 2 months ago
Jimmy McNulty was a gaping asshole, but I'll be damned if he wasn't natural po-lice.
MTempestV 2 months ago 7
happy irish day
AC3FACE 3 months ago
Thumbs up if The Wire got you there !
quininee 4 months ago 3
@quininee
Thumbs up if you've never seen an episode of the wire, and love good music!
Rao665 4 months ago
@Rao665 You shut that mouth about the Wire. Perhaps the greatest achievement ever to be put on television. GOD BLESS JIMMY MCNULTY!!!
amd2q9 4 months ago
@amd2q9
yeah, if you got to sit on your couch and watch TV shows to learn about music, then you must be so proud.
Rao665 4 months ago
@Rao665 yeah, if you sit on your computer and talk shit like you are so much better than everyone because you know one Pogues song, then you must be so proud
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who said anything bout me? were talking about you boy.
Rao665 4 months ago
I want a season 6 of The Wire dammit.
Jovenza2 7 months ago 4
they should teach this when they fuckin force u to learn the tin whistle!
Keyser21 7 months ago
@Keyser21 Who forced you to learn the Tin Whistle?
GrlLeastLikelyTo 6 months ago
@GrlLeastLikelyTo school
Keyser21 6 months ago
The Pogues
jtebaize 9 months ago
what is the tune that spider starts playing at 2:17. I cant quite place it
cubesolver344 11 months ago
@cubesolver344 If the suspense hasn't killed you already I am sure it is by Fields of Fire by Big Country which would have been fairly contemporary with this tune.
sunboiledonions 6 months ago
I wish people could stop about the fucking teeth, if he lost an arm would that be an issue also, unless he was holding the mike with the other.
throatboat 11 months ago
I like how he forgot the words to the first chorus, and started with the words to the third. "Farewell to New York City boys, to Boston and PA!"
darkfatherdivine 1 year ago
@darkfatherdivine that's because they are the right words
as3cs3 10 months ago
@as3cs3 actually they are not but whatever
777JimmyCONWAY 8 months ago
The life has gotten to him a bit but if it were me it would have done me in at 35 to be sure...
alchoholic20 1 year ago
At 2:03 it sounds like Shane died a little. Great song though.
myers5797 1 year ago
Classic spider fuck up
pudnog01 1 year ago
@pudnog01 Where?
hanshotfirst1138 1 year ago
God this is OLD, back when Saun had still had most of his teeth. ^^
leapoffaith20 1 year ago
@leapoffaith20 yessss, but he got them back, i saw on a recent picture, better late then never i guess.....
limbo182 1 year ago
@leapoffaith20 Yeah, and was sober once in a while :P. He's really in his prime here. Shame his hard living has taken such a toll on his talent, but we've got some of the greatest songs ever as his legacy.
hanshotfirst1138 1 year ago
not a word
jewmillionaire 1 year ago
What the fuck is wrong with people that, in the glare of exceptional talent, they focus on the trivialities? Does everyone have to be clean-cut-commercial? For goodness sakes, enjoy the share brilliance, the shining beauty that is such well written songs and dammit, celebrate our frailties. If you want to be part of the "fit in and be pretty" group, then move to a gated community and listen to commercial radio.
gravmass 1 year ago 16
In my humble opinion...one of Macgowan's greatest triumphs.
Absolutely brilliant!
barneymcgee56 1 year ago 4
Poguetry in motion! Still got the 7" Picture Disc! Great Piss up tune!
steviecuz 1 year ago
@steviecuz What's a Piss up tune... a great song to drink to?
GrlLeastLikelyTo 1 year ago
@GrlLeastLikelyTo that's right! X
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bergenrock 1 year ago
Shane McGowan has a mouth like a car accident.
GrlLeastLikelyTo 1 year ago
@GrlLeastLikelyTo
That is truly poor judgement!.
In time though,you will learn he has the heart of a rebel,the soul of a poet.and the genius of a man who hates perfect teeth.
He actually was fitted with new ones a few years back,and promptly lost them.
Such are his priority's.
That is why he lives in Ireland and not the USA.
What part were you paying attention too,any way? The music,or the teeth?.
neohip 1 year ago 3
@neohip see what I have to put up with over here??
This is why Justin Beiber is popular: he has such lovely veneers. sigh.
joeygsmom 1 year ago
@joeygsmom
And hair,but to be fair to Justin (I'm in a generous mood), he's only a kid after all!.
Maybe we are getting too old for criticising the Pop market,I know I am,but then I remember a time when wonderful pop used to mean good music.
Jeeze,even the Beatles were considered pop once!.
neohip 1 year ago
@neohip Actually I was thoroughly enjoying the music... but I was unable to think of a comment to adequately express my appreciation. So I made a comment on the teeth, and I meant it as a compliment! It's a great set of PunchedInTheFace kinda teeth.
If I had teeth like that I'd wear 'em with pride. Alas, I was confined to numerous retainers and sets of braces as a child and thus denied the pleasure and the pride.
GrlLeastLikelyTo 1 year ago
@GrlLeastLikelyTo
I totally believe your excuse.
I never wore braces, but saw many who had to go through the "agony".
Now,to prove that you like the music,please check out Luke Kelly and The Dubliners.
Luke had good teeth,but OMG he had red hair!.lol.
neohip 1 year ago
@neohip Indeed, the Dubliners are incredible!
Incidenlty, my childhood braces tragedy was rectified by the fact that I had an Irish nanny. She taught me Psalms, Gaelic expressions and she always listened to The Saw Doctors. Check them out if you haven't already. "I usta lover" is a good one...
GrlLeastLikelyTo 1 year ago
@neohip omg yes, gorgeous red hair!
Shane has very pretty delicate hands if anyone else has noticed...
joeygsmom 1 year ago
@neohip
Hurrah! A voice of reason. WTF would anyone come and listen to such exceptional and inspired talent and then go on to criticise the appearance of the lead singer? Do they only appreciate the generic and commercial? If so, then why are they even checking such brilliance out in the first place? Sheesh!
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Thanks. To be fair,I believe criticism is valid.
I critique myself every time I look in the mirror,but not as such often to others,especially when I do not know them,but they are obviously far more talented than anyone I am ever met in my life.
To see that ignorance is still thriving, is heart breaking
neohip 1 year ago
@GrlLeastLikelyTo ...and the talent of a musical prodigy. Aren't we fortunate he exists?
gravmass 7 months ago
@gravmass Indeed!
GrlLeastLikelyTo 6 months ago
This makes want to go to the pub and to finish building my time machine.
incubi51 1 year ago 3
This is the Mahones at their best! wasnt it great that they were waiting for us in London when Brian Lenihan told us all to get out to fuck in the mid 1980's. their music did more for us than any self aid!
peteenhai 1 year ago
f**ckin awesome. can't believe this song was recorded this early on video. Shane's 120 lbs, 10 stones a rock-n-roll.
caronfountainhead 1 year ago
to be listened to guzzling a pint..shane your the best this yank salutes you slainte..
wolfgar50 1 year ago
@wolfgar50
Reading comments like that make me want to drink with you.
trollfinger 1 year ago
would have gone to this but was only 7 lol but still remember watching it live on rte it was a saturday think the boys came on bout 3 or 4pm ive been obsesed with THE POGUES since 1985 when my dad first showed me them on tv
lovepogues 1 year ago
somebody can teach me how to play the chorus part for the tin whistle? ^^
blackepiphone 1 year ago
I'm in love with his voice!
MalinStromblad 1 year ago
Woaaaah, they are fantastic. I love it!
mandred100 1 year ago 2
i love yanks because they gave us money for guns during the 1916 rising to bad the stupid germans arived 3 days early with our guns and got the ship sunk by the huns GIVE THIS A THUMBS UP IF YOU WANT TO THANK THE YANKS
SPARTAN119147 1 year ago 4
if a leprechan climbed into shane's puss ... he would say "oye" ...... and croak!
frizzlefrap 1 year ago
is shane's nickname "lamprey mouth" on a drunk?
frizzlefrap 1 year ago
if shane bit a croc .... it would roll over and turn to moosh!
frizzlefrap 1 year ago
LONG LIVE THE POGUES
superfebs 1 year ago 3
Right, my last word on this, I think I've got it. The song is set at the funeral wake of Big Jim Dwyer, an Irish American, who's body will be shipped hom to Ireland, " the shores where his fathers lay ". The singer, hearing " uncles giving lectures on ancient Irish history " decides he will leave " New York city boys, Boston and PA " and go to Ireland as well. It's a nice twist by Shane on the usual Irish emigrating to America. Here, the narrator is going from the States to Ireland.
SuperDsweeney 1 year ago 2
I thought this was the usual Irish emigration to the States fare but now I think it is the other way. An American is at a funeral wake and decides to go to Ireland after relatives talk about the old country.
SuperDsweeney 1 year ago
I used to think the song was the usual Irish emigration to Amerikay but now I think it is actually the other way. A guy in the States is at a funeral wake and relatives start talking about the old country so he decides he will go to Ireland, " to the shores where his fathers lay ". Why would an American say " the yanks they were within " though ?
SuperDsweeney 1 year ago
nice teeth holy shit
bigbradford69 1 year ago
go on the pogeus
jamjarone 1 year ago
nice one check out the rebel hearts version thanks
madfortrad5958 1 year ago
@northholt Thats Spier!
STFCstoneroses 1 year ago
Nope, that's Spider! :p
JoeyRamonerulz 1 year ago
shanieee you are the best...... songwriter
god bless you
sonnengeflecht43 1 year ago 2
goodstuff
Patricklucey5 1 year ago
I am a free-born man of the U-S-A....
apacolipps 1 year ago
Does Shane MacGowan ever still preform live? I know it would be a much "different" experience today given his years of partying & their toll, but I would still KILL to see him play once ;-)
He always sings with his eyes shut, so wonderful ;-)
whatsupfamousface 1 year ago 2
yes sir he still is playing live with the pogues. and your correct the first time I see him and the pogues was in 06 and it was still amazing
kfz 1 year ago
So does MC Chris another great lyricist...
DickCheezburger 1 year ago
Saw him with the Poges on St. Pat's Day in NYC a couple years ago.
Now clear to die happy.
HannibaltoRome 1 year ago
poguetry in motion
dave10587 2 years ago 4
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this song from the wire is so gay! wtf
stokelycarm 2 years ago
The wire
MikefromMadrid 2 years ago 24
shane is a poet, a better poet than any other poet ive read, genius i think
daco420 2 years ago 8
There's only one Shane McGowan,I must of seen him over 40 times and it only get's better.
Irishtom1000 2 years ago 2
Is that a medley of the riff from the old ska tune "Guns of Navarone" at 2:20???
jakethedrummer1 2 years ago
Yeah I would say he def did that on purpose. Pogues were into that English scene of Two Tone era. Even though they weren't IN it. they were INTO IT. and the two tone guys used to sample that song. in solos and such. so it makes snese.
sup2u 2 years ago
Spider fucked up a bit but who cares POGUES ROCKKK
kilobbb 2 years ago 3
LOL I love how he picks up and takes a swig off his beer while the guy plays his fiddle!
ClairvoyantDreamer29 2 years ago 2
That is so, not even close to being a fiddle. I think you've had a few too many swigs yourself.
joekennedy 2 years ago
Now I know why the folks strapped an accordian on me at 5 years of age! Hopes and dreams of me playing this. Well, whattaya reckon? Life is strange....
Solarshoji 2 years ago
man shane mcgowan is one ugly son of a bitch but ill be damned if he isnt an amazing singer, and everything he sings he sings completely plastered which blows my mind hahahaha love the pogues, wish shane would try to keep himself in tact so we can have him for a bit longer hahahaha
jewishhomie 2 years ago 4
He is an aquired taste
Donegaldan 2 years ago 2
yep indeedy i'm aquired
praskovia13 2 years ago
@Donegaldan but damn it tastes good!
ProudConservative551 2 years ago
As long as his liver can survive!
Donegaldan 2 years ago
and a musical and lyrical genious to boot
seamirock 2 years ago 2
RIP McNulty
acekingie 2 years ago 86
@acekingie and they put him on the felt! quite right police
john law if you will
maximoyear2005 11 months ago
Awesome, best quality one can hope for from 86.
Lostintheflood79 2 years ago 3
Loved the Pogues for ages, then The Wire played this....magic
Delaney001 2 years ago 3
RIP McNulty's Career. And that other guy that died in Season 3 because the actor/producer really died.
marlowe2 2 years ago 2
The sigaret behind the ear. That's the killing secret !
bouhez 2 years ago
Macgowan - will you visit Australia any time soon you bastard?
yamum51 2 years ago 2
I know, it's about bloody time they came to Australia! It's only 24 hours on a plane, get your arse over here Shane.
punkcat77 2 years ago 4
This is such a great song. It speaks to me on some gutteral almost genetic level. Even if the lyrics werent so close to my heart, the music itself sounds like something I heard a long time ago.
morningrage91 2 years ago 2
Fucking, A.
theothernewestone 2 years ago 3
I didn't expect it to.
staringintotheabyss 2 years ago
What have you done that warrants your pedestal? rofl
staringintotheabyss 2 years ago
The Spider on the flute sounds really good here. Better fluting than on the CD version I reckon.
yamum51 2 years ago
Tin wistle.
iwwobbly 2 years ago
I realised that as soon as I posted thinking to myself 'should I make the correction' - then I used my brains and realised some yank would
yamum51 2 years ago
Tin whistle!!
johnty1888 2 years ago
But he never threw a fight when the fight was right so they sent em to the war!
American civil war?
suspect485 2 years ago
What exactly is this song about? Is it kind of a eulogy to an Irish guy who immigrated to America or something?
suspect485 2 years ago
dudes all ure doin is runin the song by this arguin im not gona say i know what its about so dont leave hate male but the whole point of music is to unite people
jimmyrules55 2 years ago
Yeah right, behave thyself
Rawlinson18 2 years ago
dont forget the Canadian soldiers who lost their lives also
dadaggy1 2 years ago 2
Every useless fuckhead here arguing U.S politics knows fuck all what this song is about...fucking sad guys, motherfucking sad.
staringintotheabyss 2 years ago
Shane's vocals are at their best in this song
Donegaldan 2 years ago
MUSIC !!
Ruben00021 2 years ago 2
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butasskiss 2 years ago
Hey chrisalbert0311 :
You have a Ph.D and you feel the need to talk down to people on YouTube? What did you write your thesis on - "Anal Retentive Behavior and How to Talk Back to Your Mom"? Jesus.
Mranthr0pe 2 years ago
children, children...it's only a song. and a damn good one used on the wire
5aucyjack 2 years ago 2
man, that was a good show.
j4ck2234 2 years ago 3
Great song, great band, great outro too! "Hot wire her with a pin!" priceless!
martcarey 2 years ago
ziegler your a fucking cunt for not knowing your history and j4ck I'm not sure who your listening to but your need to check your sources. Without the US the allies likely lose africa to rommell and without the d-day invasion primarily spearheaded by the Americans opening up a two front War Germany chances of fending off the Russians would have been much greater. reason our casulty numbers are so low compared to USSR we never had to fight on our own soil except PH. And the russian forces werehuge
Bulldog815 2 years ago
lol the germans had no chance whatsoever to stop or even (lol) defeat the red army. At the time it was even clear that the east european partisans would shake off the invaders. (you know the few million armed guerillas behind german lines)
The only goal of the american invasion was to get a piece of the cake. (or to contain russia if you will)
(+africa was quite irrelevant, it never had a high priority..I think the goal was to satisfy the italian allies)
j4ck2234 2 years ago
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j4ck2234 2 years ago
hm can't post a comment..anyway look up the casualty numbers for germany in north africa.
j4ck2234 2 years ago
lol the only asses the US soldiers kicked were those of the japanese. +the US didn't really save anyone..US intervention in WWI led to the rise of Hitler (+Stalin) and WWII was pretty much over before the US got involved. (the soviet union stopped the nazis)
But anyways..Ireland remained neutral.
j4ck2234 2 years ago 2
your are a dumbass.
chrisalbert0311 2 years ago
I think the history teacher who filled your head with nonsense is a dumbass.
j4ck2234 2 years ago
You're right. I'll just go take my Ph.D and burn it. Dumbass, The US hit the bulk of the resistance on D-Day in France. The Brits and Canadians fought bravely, but met much less resistance. The Red Army did a lot, but the US sacrificed greatly for "Old Europe." But you can go think what you want you dumbass
chrisalbert0311 2 years ago
And how does that differ from what I said? (+I think you're talking about the brits on D-Day so that's ok I guess)
j4ck2234 2 years ago
Listen I am a fucking American... but do the math, Germany had roughly 130-160 divisions on the Eastern Front while only 34 in France.
Without the Red Army the war would have been lost. Without American equipment and aid both UK and Russia would have been knocked out of the fight AND without Britian, that tiny couragous bastard of an Island, standing against the Germans alone for a solid year, yes the war would have also been lost.
All of the allies needed each other.
mmmm66 2 years ago 4
So piss off all of you nationalist bastards from UK, Russia, USA.......
mmmm66 2 years ago
i saw the pogues 2 Christmas ago, the drum kit had a hammer and sickle on the kick drum skin.
is this what they were referencing ?
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kitty4372 2 years ago
we may be the fattest country on earth but we still put a man on the moon. damn I'm drunk.
limestoneroad 2 years ago 5
excellent brother
fudgiest 2 years ago
with nazi technology and expertise, lol.
-the american rocket exploded on the ground.
j4ck2234 2 years ago
i can never keep it straight- are the irish some of the ones who's asses we kicked, or who's asses we saved in WWI/WWII ?
5767ziegler 2 years ago
The casualty numbers pretty much tell the story.
Soviet casualties: military circa 10million, civilian circa 13million
American casualties: circa 400k
Hollywood tends to exaggerate the american role..+the number is furthermore inflated because the american military establishment was quite incompetent. After the war the US military was drastically altered because the german troops were able to inflict 50% more damages in every situation. And that with manpower, fuel and equipment shortages.
j4ck2234 2 years ago
as a McLaren and a McCullough by marriage i fu**ing love the Pogues
Lakin70 2 years ago
i am fully irish and 4 me this is like 1 of those times where u feel proud that you are irish {even so we did,nt complete as much as america]
sychospud 2 years ago 2
I am only a quarter Irish, an American, but when I hear this song it sends a chill up my spine and I get this surge of energy, the need to either dance, fight or drink, most of all it makes me smile...
jxhenne 2 years ago
Wow, that was fucking bonzer! What festival was this? Cait was still in the band. Just love their rendition of this. Spider Stacey plays 'the guns of navarone' on his tin whistle during the bridge and it fits in nicely. I like how they included this on the reissue of Rum, Sodomy & the Lash. <3 The Pogues!
xalstarx 2 years ago
wow, so many comments about america..
i'm american and i'm not afraid to say america isn't the best country around even though america gets a worse reputation then it deserves.
wisard734 2 years ago
to paraphrase Lee Iacocca, if you can find a better country, go live there.
kieser78 2 years ago 5
Just out of curiosity, Wisard 734, which IS the best country around??? I keep looking, but I never see lines of people trying to get OUT of America. No, it's not perfect...but seriously...in your opinion, which is the best country, all around. I'm still not leaving, for I love the USA, and all my Celtic ancestors.
HelenSSpencer77 2 years ago
i don't pick favorites. but i just think america is a little full of itself.
wisard734 2 years ago
You could be on to something wis734...or could be stereotyping...still, I think most Americans would choose to live here, even if given their choice of living in any other country. With all it's warts and moles, most of us are content with being Americans. If that makes us full of ourselves...well I guess we are. But isn't that true of most people of whatever their country of birth happens to be.? Were I born in Eng., Fr., Ireland, Poland, etc. I probably would think they were the best!
HelenSSpencer77 2 years ago
And why should we not be? We are young and yet have so much under our belt. I am so sick and tired of the trend of hating the U.S. Americans need to get more PRIDE in this grate country. That is the only way to get it better not a black leader, Republican, or ever a Democrat. If you are a male American reading this find the nearest, roundest, best thigh havenest, fattest ass having, big American tit possessing girl you can and make love to her with the U.S.A.'s flag tied on you like a cape!
KiffffiK 2 years ago
if ken casey is reading this than we know this is his favourite song
andrej202 2 years ago
one of the best voices in history of music,and a pair of the ugliest teeths hahahahaaha
andrej202 2 years ago
spacebar,he aint irish mate,he was born in london
marky213uk 2 years ago 2
both parents irish.
motorodeo 2 years ago
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conormc90 2 years ago
hey both of ya need to keep quiet an jus listen to the music kuz eventho europe is better the america its not something to discuss on youtube
Éirinn go Brách
poguemahone322 2 years ago
Leave it to an Irishman to write a more poetic song about being American than an American.
spaceba 2 years ago
Leave it to an American to put down his own country for the sake of praise.
KiffffiK 2 years ago
I'm not quite sure what you mean. But if you can find a phrase which rivals "I'm a free-born man of the USA" to encapsulate everything it means to be born in this country, I'd certainly love for you to send me the link to it. I'd also like to point out that Shane McGowan wrote that line and he is Irish, thus explaining my original post.
spaceba 2 years ago
I'm Irish and American so If I wrote a good line which side do I fall on? I hate people who put down America and especially it's damn fine people! That's what I mean. And yes, this is a very good song, I have no bad Judgment against it only good.
KiffffiK 2 years ago
Ah, I see. I didn't mean to put down Americans, I was more trying to compliment the poetic tradition of Ireland. Even within this tradition, Shane McGowan stands out. There was no denigration intended in my original post. And I guess that being Irish and American means you fall on the awesome side?
spaceba 2 years ago
Never heard of this song till the wake scenes in "the Wire", awesome. Long live Mc Nulty!
irishbloke99 2 years ago 5
Thanks mate. Never saw this, before.
Wanderlustus 2 years ago
the pogues equal pure brillilance, they were the greatest live show i ever had the fortune of beholding. thanks for sharing this video, cheers
jeremyshambles 2 years ago 5
From The Wire!!!
davegross2 2 years ago 4
Hey, is that the melody to "Guns of Navarone" in the instrumental break?? Awesome!
nichmars 2 years ago 4
Irish pride right there! Go Shane!
VivaLaSexPistols 2 years ago 4
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god they suck!
crazycaleb92 2 years ago
Of course you would say that. You don't get it.
trollfinger 2 years ago
ok im sorry i was being dumb by posting that comment. i was too quick to judge i agree. what dont i get? and is this irish punk rock because im starting to like it.
crazycaleb92 2 years ago 3
The Pogues and especially Shane have a charm about them that some people wouldn't get. Check out their soong the turkish song of the damned. As I said, some get it some don't.
trollfinger 2 years ago 2
Great outro!
God bless ye, Spider!
SlapperMcBride 2 years ago
Then on the 7th day God rested & took a shit, what came out was the pogues, God saw it & that it was good, and the Lord proclaimed "The Pogues are... the Shit!"
jondawg83 2 years ago 4