I love when everybody keeps calling it a M14.. This is not Vietnam guys!! M14 is the Full Auto Military Version. That you are shooting is a M1A Civilian Semi auto Version, With a 16 inch barrel, Socom 16 A sexy ass Rifle!
@scorpioncrow These are m14 style rifles. Most m14's in service today in Iraq and Afganistan has a full-auto block, they fire semi-auto only. The way to tell is, if you see what looks like a button instead of a lever. The one's with the button is semi-auto only. But, both are m14's. The early Springfield m1a's were built using m14 parts. It's like people call all ar-15 type rifle's, ar-15's. when they are c-15's,a-15's, d-15's and so on.
@geriatricgoonsquad yeah i know, i heard from my research that they suck; but i heard that the 25rd 1's are just as good as the g.i. issue 20 rounders... i know there's the a beta c-mag for them, or @ least a magwell adapter, but they're wither too expensive for now or just too heavy & cumbersome for a chest rig.
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@themeaningoflife38 the basic m1a's from springfieldarmory are between $1,400-1,600. the fulton armory 1's are like upwards from $2,700 dollars. over all i'd say they're a little bit much for a popular .308 br which is why'd i'd go for a saiga .308($500-600) or a you're standard fn fal(>$1,000). there's also a sale for james river armory m14 @ $2,000 essentially the same as the fulton armory's $2,700 g.i. issue version.
For those who don't know "Gunny " is short for Gunnery Sergeant, a rank unique to the Marine Corps. "Grunt" refers to fighting men on foot, in the Army or the Corps, but especially the Corps! The grunts held on to the M14 longer than the Army did; good for them. I don't suppose they like hearing that the FN-FAL was (even) better. The nastiest war of the 1970's was Rhodesia. FN on one side, AK on the other. The AK did not skunk the FN in Rhodesia the way it did the M16 in Vietnam.
@Skeptic121 BUt a far different set of factors to consider in Veitnam. It wasnt till almost a whole year of combat did the military even issue a cleaning regimne, instructions or kits to soldiers. And the use of black ball powder did not ignite in high humidity of South East Asia so the powder was changed back to stick powder. Any armor worth his salt know that no weapon is invincible... even the AK needs cleaning.
The whole sorry episode is told in Col. Hackworth's book "About Face". Hackworth was asked to test the M16. He told his superiors the M16 was going kill untold thousands of American boys and lose the war. They laughed at him for caring. NOT for being wrong; FOR CARING!
Our military is broken and cannot be fixed. We need to cut loose our worthless empire, come home, and protect our borders. Yes, I want to fight the terrorists here. Kick their ass as they step off the plane at JFK.
@Hopllyte I hate to belabor this issue, but please read what you wrote, that it took the brass a year to issue a cleaning kit for the M16, the most finicky rifle in the history of war.
Such a sorry episode shows the utter contempt our senior officers had, and have, for their men and their mission. Any senior American officer achieves his rank by his willingness to sacrifice his country and his men to his career. There is NO other path to advancement in today's military or in the Vietnam era.
@Skeptic121 The blame for the way the M-16 went to war can be laid squarely at the feet of John McNamara who decided the chambers did'nt need to be chromed even though the Army wanted it. The White house micromanaged the whole war.
@flyinDPOD Hello, I am old enough to remember Defense Secretary Robert McNamara. The man was evil. His middle name, Strange, was too appropriate to have been an accident!
The most decorated officer of the Vietnam era, Col. David Hackworth, tested the M16 when it was introduced. He complained to his superiors that it jammed easily and was extremely difficult to clear once it did. They laughed at him for caring about the troops and told him to buy stock in Colt, the manufacturer. Today, elite troops, those that the top brass care about, are allowed to use the M14 in Iraq and Afg. No other countries use the M16 unless they get it free from the US.
If you throw out a contemptuous retort, it is customary to explain WHAT you disagree with and why. For example: Do you disagree that Col. Hackworth was the most decorated officer of the Vietnam era? Do you claim Col. Howard was? If so, I would respond that Howard was enlisted for much of that era, while Hack was commissioned. Sorry to make you feel stupid, but you helped me!
Australian troops were extremely successful against the VC in the early years of the Vietnam war. They used a rifle, the FN-FAL, that fired the same round as the M14. It was known for penetrating the jungle and hitting the enemy. The M16 round was notorious for being deflected by vegetation. The FN-FAL was known for not jamming, even in dirty conditions. Australian top brass care about their troops. U.S. top brass care about their career. Sorry to say, this will not change.
id probably take a semi auto over an automatic. i mean, unless its an smg, for assault rifles, aint nothing better than a semi auto in my opinion. i think we should stop using a 30'06 round in our rifles and convert completely to .308 rounds. less kick, more accuracy, and does damage ALMOST just as good if not as good.
what are you talking about? The 30-06 hasn't been used for a US rifle since Korea. We use 5.56 and 7.62 NATO. And to the Burrito guy, M16's are not semi automatic only, they have a burst function. Or in some cases a full automatic function.
i mean for the stop the using of a 30'06 in our hunting rifles. and in our military rifles there are round VERY similar to the 30'06 rounds. they have a lot of kick for all the more power
30-06 is no longer in service in NATO. Standard rifle calibers are 5.56 and 7.62 NATO (.308, yes I know the two are slightly different but for the sake of argument we will negate those differences) and .50 BMG
The 30-06 out performs the .308 in every way. They took it out of service because it was a long round making it harder to carry a lot of. It was also hard to make actions for semi autos for such a long round (The garand is the rare exception). Think of a .308 as basically a 30-06 short.
30'06 doesnt out perform it. the .308 shoots farther more accurately, less recoil, and close to the same power. the .308 round in general better. if you are shooting more than 150-200 yards, ill take the .308 ANY DAY
Yes it does, not by a whole lot. The .308 is an extremely efficient case but the 30-06 hits harder over longer distances because of the extra powder and will drop about an inch less out at 400 yards.
The differences are small and almost negligible but they are there. Don't get me wrong I love the .308, but look around and you will see what Im talking about
@ECTBWHO i know. my comment was in a reply to someone talking about a .30-06. but dip shits see .30-06 on a m14 page and automatically seem to think im talking about the weapon in the video.
YES. I have seen them. But they are rare. You have the change the barrel. And get some one mod the rifle to take B A R mags or something thats 30-06. These days .308 is cheaper than 30-06 but I still love the 30-06.
I apologize for the chin music. WHAT aggravated me was when I was informed that there is a bill somewhere that whats to ban the M-1 Carbine. M-1 Garand, Mini 14, and the M1-A1.
And all Shotguns. Unlikely that it will pass due to the shotgun part. THATS WHAT AGGRAVATED ME.
No kidding. They want to take all guns away from us old news. Ill E-mail you a link from the NRA. Just makes me wanna praise the CMP for mailing M1 Garand's and Carbines to the homes of Millions of People with out papers. I ticks me off when people want to ban and or destroy relic firearms.
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have a think tho in Vietnam very lucky soldiers would get access to the almighty AR-10 a 7.62 mm assault rifle very simpler to that of the AR-15 but with a lot more stopping power
For anyone who might read this, the Garand and the M14/M1A are two different rifles. The receiver is very very similar, as the M14 is based off of the Garand. However, the operating rod is different, and the internals of the receiver are different. The Garand takes 8 round En Bloc clips, whereas the M14 takes a detachable box magazine. Not all Garands are .30-06, the Navy versions were 7.62 x 51 (.308 Win), which is the same round as the M14.
Also, the M1A and the M14 are exactly the same rifle, with the exception that the M14 is select fire (semi-auto or full-auto) and the M1A is the "civilian" clone that fires in semi-auto only. The fire control parts in the receiver are not interchangeable, and the interior of the receiver is slightly different in the M1A to prevent the full-auto parts from being installed. Beyond that, the rifles are identical.
Yeah, no problem. That's the short and sweet explanation, anyhow. That's based off of what I've read about the two firearms, and my practical experience with the two I own. I have an M1 Garand who's serial number places it as a 1942 year of production, but it was refurbished after the war and has a newer 1950 barrel. I also have an M1A (M14 clone), and both of them are a blast to shoot. I always wanted a "real" M14, but I don't think that will happen for legal and financial reasons.
The M14 is an excellent rifle that exceeds most of the military needs. The only problem is it is too good a rifle and not good enough a machine gun for what the military wants. The military believes more rounds fired equals more enemy killed. Vietnam shows 100,000+ rounds per kill compared to 25,000 rounds per kill in WW2.
Its funny how they wanted a fully auto weapon and they disowned the m14 due to bad recoil, so they get the m16 which has barely any and can pump out more rounds then any other assault rifle, and what do they do... say full auto is bad and switched all the m16s to semi auto lol.
yea, but the only reason they changed it was so that dumb ass's wont run out of ammo with in the first 30 seconds of the firefight, and to give the barrel time to cool down
Still the main function of the M16 is to provide accurate long range full automatic fire. If they wanted long range semi auto and short range full auto performance they would have stuck with the M14.
Note true. It was so the solider could carry more ammo. Thats why the selecter goes safe, semi, full. In fact the military was getting away from full auto on them cause of the waste of ammo. Thats where the 3 rd burst comes in. No gun is dead on at long ranges in full auto it recoils no matter what the caliber. A little barrel rise only get worse the farther out the target gets. The AK is meant for full auto. So young untrained men could shoot it if need be. Spray & Pray.
Basically right, but the Armalite rifles produced for the military were always select fire. They've all had a semi-auto position on the selector between safe and auto. The differences in fire control between the different variants was a difference in the type of auto. Some were full auto and some had a burst cam and would only fire 3 rounds per trigger pull, but all had a semi-auto function. You are basically right, in the respect that they switched from full auto to burst to save ammo.
yes, that is true they did switch to the lighter m16 in vietnam partly due to weight but also due in part to massive lobbying by colt. They also wanted a lighter round for less overall weight. however with a heavy rifle recoil isnt bad. Matter of fact there is very little actual felt recoil when shooting 150 gr. ball ammo out of the m-14. distance does affect accuracy, but the .308 is ACCURATE out to 300 yds, with practice and a good scope it does not affect it any more than a lighter bullet.
Pretty much ALL bullets, regardless of caliber and grain are going to suffer a significant amount of bullet drop at farther distances, but it's easily compensated for by a trained marksman with a high quality scope who knows how to accurately judge distance, calculate bullet drop, and windage to make adjustments to his scope. Some high power rounds, like the .50 BMG or the Barret .416 have an extremely flat trajectory at similar distances, but still drop noticeably forcing you to compensate.
but the m16 is fully automatic to semi automic so you get more bullets for the kill you need, and dont forget the m16 is amazingly lighter than the m14. lol.. thats why we used m16's in vietnam
I went to the firing range with a friend of mine and fired his M14 and found that the recoil wasn't as bad as I thought it would be,in fact ive fired the ruger mini 30 which takes a 7.62x39 cartridge and it kicked harder than the M14 did.
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Its a technical/legal point. Military 7.62mm brass cases, having thicker case walls than their civilian counterpart, will obturate at a different rate and thus create a different pressure curve. Manufactuers, for legal reasons, proof their barrels for one or the other. The barrels proofed in .308win are not recommended for 7.62mm NATO because of the pressure curve diff. Those proofed for 7.62 will safely shoot .308win. According to the manufacturer......
For the Noobs to get a better perspective on the differences between the two rounds, they should use google images for a comparison. Very different rounds.
Depends on what you mean by close range, if you mean house to house than yes. But close range for an M14 is at the 100 yard mark. At that range, you can just plink away at the enemy and kill them one by one.
m-14 the best mother fucking rifle arround it will rape aks at there own game (spray and pray) and then when it comes to puttin rounds down range it cant be beat...ive got a nm spring field... 10 inch pattern 800 yards im not even a pro or useing match rounds
Here's the thing, I wouldn't carry anything but the M14 into battle. But the AK47 cannot be beat at spray and pray. You can put hundred of rounds down range full auto and it will not quit. The M14 is a great rifle but its cartridge is too big for accurate fully automatic fire.
Like jubbles said, the bullet are VERY different. The .308/7.62x51 is a heavy hitting full power rifle cartridge. You must have never seen them side by side (which is fine, I dont blame you). The AK 7.62x39 on the other hand, is very light and is a cross between a pistol and rifle round. The AK's recoil is low while the M14/M1a's recoil is pretty high. Read about the FN FAL or the HK G3 and you will know what I'm talking about.
I trained with the M-14 at Parris Island in boot camp in 1964, and had the M-14 as my weapon for 4 years. I never touched the M16. The M-14 was deadly accurate at 1,000 yards. I never had one jam on me. I heard that the M1A1 is an improved version of the M-14. For example, the flash suppressor does not get out of alignment. Great rifle. I wish I had one.
The new flash suppressor is a phenominal design. When I first bought my M1A I went to the range to try it out and it put 5 rounds in the same hole. It is a great design for keeping the weapon on target for sub minute of angle accuracy.
No...they redesigned the gas tub and flash suppressor! It's a little lighter than the M1A and it's only semi-auto! They are the same caliber but yes it has a shorter barrel! It is a great rifle! I also have an M!A!
even tho .308 and 7.62x51 are about the same...i wouldnt shoot 7.62x51nato in a rifle maked .308 do to the 7.62 being made for higher pressurers then the .308, buts its completely safe to shot .308 in a rifle maked 7.62nato
Is that a semi auto variant or a full auto variant?
e0o9kii 11 months ago
@e0o9kii probably a springfield M1A since i dont see a selector switch. that means itl only fire on semi auto.
IKEELYOUNOW 10 months ago
ta hell with the m4 and m16 this should be are militarys rifle just put a 2 round burst and you got your self a killing machine!
usnavysss 1 year ago
@usnavysss or, you could just double tap a guy.
Ranger4321 8 months ago
SOCOM 16 :)
TaZ101SAGA 1 year ago
I love when everybody keeps calling it a M14.. This is not Vietnam guys!! M14 is the Full Auto Military Version. That you are shooting is a M1A Civilian Semi auto Version, With a 16 inch barrel, Socom 16 A sexy ass Rifle!
scorpioncrow 1 year ago
@scorpioncrow These are m14 style rifles. Most m14's in service today in Iraq and Afganistan has a full-auto block, they fire semi-auto only. The way to tell is, if you see what looks like a button instead of a lever. The one's with the button is semi-auto only. But, both are m14's. The early Springfield m1a's were built using m14 parts. It's like people call all ar-15 type rifle's, ar-15's. when they are c-15's,a-15's, d-15's and so on.
hammerdrop30 1 year ago
@hammerdrop30 Most M-14's are actually M-25's
Eagle027 6 months ago
i know rthe answer to this question is no, but i'm going to ask it anyways; is they're a 30rd mag in existence on the face of the earth??
SymAmineC8H11N 1 year ago
@SymAmineC8H11N Yes, I have seen some 30 round mags for the M14/M1A. These are imported non U.S. made but they are available.
geriatricgoonsquad 1 year ago
@geriatricgoonsquad yeah i know, i heard from my research that they suck; but i heard that the 25rd 1's are just as good as the g.i. issue 20 rounders... i know there's the a beta c-mag for them, or @ least a magwell adapter, but they're wither too expensive for now or just too heavy & cumbersome for a chest rig.
SymAmineC8H11N 1 year ago
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TweenkiesRus 1 year ago
i wanna get one of those with the springfield urban camo finish
iflickuoff 1 year ago
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legoman3342 1 year ago
@legoman3342 actually springfield makes a stock for the SOCOMII that is called urban camo. look it up before you start shooting your mouth off
iflickuoff 1 year ago
how much to buy one of these????
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 the basic m1a's from springfieldarmory are between $1,400-1,600. the fulton armory 1's are like upwards from $2,700 dollars. over all i'd say they're a little bit much for a popular .308 br which is why'd i'd go for a saiga .308($500-600) or a you're standard fn fal(>$1,000). there's also a sale for james river armory m14 @ $2,000 essentially the same as the fulton armory's $2,700 g.i. issue version.
SymAmineC8H11N 1 year ago
Nice alloy frame Smitty in the foreground.
yadidimeanmaine 1 year ago
Where can I find an M-14 like that? I really like that SOCOM-16
saddy78 1 year ago
For those who don't know "Gunny " is short for Gunnery Sergeant, a rank unique to the Marine Corps. "Grunt" refers to fighting men on foot, in the Army or the Corps, but especially the Corps! The grunts held on to the M14 longer than the Army did; good for them. I don't suppose they like hearing that the FN-FAL was (even) better. The nastiest war of the 1970's was Rhodesia. FN on one side, AK on the other. The AK did not skunk the FN in Rhodesia the way it did the M16 in Vietnam.
Skeptic121 1 year ago
@Skeptic121 BUt a far different set of factors to consider in Veitnam. It wasnt till almost a whole year of combat did the military even issue a cleaning regimne, instructions or kits to soldiers. And the use of black ball powder did not ignite in high humidity of South East Asia so the powder was changed back to stick powder. Any armor worth his salt know that no weapon is invincible... even the AK needs cleaning.
Hopllyte 1 year ago
@Hopllyte
The whole sorry episode is told in Col. Hackworth's book "About Face". Hackworth was asked to test the M16. He told his superiors the M16 was going kill untold thousands of American boys and lose the war. They laughed at him for caring. NOT for being wrong; FOR CARING!
Our military is broken and cannot be fixed. We need to cut loose our worthless empire, come home, and protect our borders. Yes, I want to fight the terrorists here. Kick their ass as they step off the plane at JFK.
Skeptic121 1 year ago 2
@Skeptic121 nice thoughts...agreed....
U.S. forces spread out thinner around the globe ,than welfare cheese , on a mountain of sandwiches
RicoLoco971 1 year ago
@Hopllyte I hate to belabor this issue, but please read what you wrote, that it took the brass a year to issue a cleaning kit for the M16, the most finicky rifle in the history of war.
Such a sorry episode shows the utter contempt our senior officers had, and have, for their men and their mission. Any senior American officer achieves his rank by his willingness to sacrifice his country and his men to his career. There is NO other path to advancement in today's military or in the Vietnam era.
Skeptic121 1 year ago
@Skeptic121 The blame for the way the M-16 went to war can be laid squarely at the feet of John McNamara who decided the chambers did'nt need to be chromed even though the Army wanted it. The White house micromanaged the whole war.
flyinDPOD 1 year ago
@flyinDPOD Hello, I am old enough to remember Defense Secretary Robert McNamara. The man was evil. His middle name, Strange, was too appropriate to have been an accident!
Skeptic121 1 year ago
The most decorated officer of the Vietnam era, Col. David Hackworth, tested the M16 when it was introduced. He complained to his superiors that it jammed easily and was extremely difficult to clear once it did. They laughed at him for caring about the troops and told him to buy stock in Colt, the manufacturer. Today, elite troops, those that the top brass care about, are allowed to use the M14 in Iraq and Afg. No other countries use the M16 unless they get it free from the US.
Skeptic121 1 year ago
You keep telling yourself that.
GunnyJH 1 year ago
Hey Gunny Grunt: which fact that I wrote do you disagree with? I'm not in the Corps so you can use English sentences, not Gruntspeak.
Skeptic121 1 year ago
How was I using gruntspeak? I was just telling you that you can keepp feeding your self false information.
GunnyJH 1 year ago
@GunnyJH
If you throw out a contemptuous retort, it is customary to explain WHAT you disagree with and why. For example: Do you disagree that Col. Hackworth was the most decorated officer of the Vietnam era? Do you claim Col. Howard was? If so, I would respond that Howard was enlisted for much of that era, while Hack was commissioned. Sorry to make you feel stupid, but you helped me!
Skeptic121 1 year ago
Australian troops were extremely successful against the VC in the early years of the Vietnam war. They used a rifle, the FN-FAL, that fired the same round as the M14. It was known for penetrating the jungle and hitting the enemy. The M16 round was notorious for being deflected by vegetation. The FN-FAL was known for not jamming, even in dirty conditions. Australian top brass care about their troops. U.S. top brass care about their career. Sorry to say, this will not change.
Skeptic121 1 year ago
thats the gun you pull out when you want something dead NOW
cnknguyen 2 years ago
id probably take a semi auto over an automatic. i mean, unless its an smg, for assault rifles, aint nothing better than a semi auto in my opinion. i think we should stop using a 30'06 round in our rifles and convert completely to .308 rounds. less kick, more accuracy, and does damage ALMOST just as good if not as good.
JgGooden 2 years ago
what are you talking about? The 30-06 hasn't been used for a US rifle since Korea. We use 5.56 and 7.62 NATO. And to the Burrito guy, M16's are not semi automatic only, they have a burst function. Or in some cases a full automatic function.
PlumpSquirrel 2 years ago
i mean for the stop the using of a 30'06 in our hunting rifles. and in our military rifles there are round VERY similar to the 30'06 rounds. they have a lot of kick for all the more power
JgGooden 2 years ago
30-06 is no longer in service in NATO. Standard rifle calibers are 5.56 and 7.62 NATO (.308, yes I know the two are slightly different but for the sake of argument we will negate those differences) and .50 BMG
The 30-06 out performs the .308 in every way. They took it out of service because it was a long round making it harder to carry a lot of. It was also hard to make actions for semi autos for such a long round (The garand is the rare exception). Think of a .308 as basically a 30-06 short.
koolaidman007 2 years ago
30'06 doesnt out perform it. the .308 shoots farther more accurately, less recoil, and close to the same power. the .308 round in general better. if you are shooting more than 150-200 yards, ill take the .308 ANY DAY
JgGooden 2 years ago
Yes it does, not by a whole lot. The .308 is an extremely efficient case but the 30-06 hits harder over longer distances because of the extra powder and will drop about an inch less out at 400 yards.
The differences are small and almost negligible but they are there. Don't get me wrong I love the .308, but look around and you will see what Im talking about
koolaidman007 2 years ago
we dont use a 30'6 round anymore...
BurroBurrito1 2 years ago
The M-14 is .308. Im sure you knew that tho.
ECTBWHO 1 year ago
@ECTBWHO i know. my comment was in a reply to someone talking about a .30-06. but dip shits see .30-06 on a m14 page and automatically seem to think im talking about the weapon in the video.
BurroBurrito1 1 year ago
I apologize to you then. Im just soo ticked off at people like that right now.
ECTBWHO 1 year ago
@ECTBWHO it ok. i find it funny to see alot of my comments get a negative thumb and see these retarded comments get positive
BurroBurrito1 1 year ago
Doesn't the M-14 only fire the 7.62mm round though? Correct me and explain if I'm wrong?
MetallicaPwnsAll 1 year ago
7.62 x 51
CAL Length of case
Thats the TRUE M-14/M21
ECTBWHO 1 year ago
But it can be modified to fire the 30-06?
MetallicaPwnsAll 1 year ago
YES. I have seen them. But they are rare. You have the change the barrel. And get some one mod the rifle to take B A R mags or something thats 30-06. These days .308 is cheaper than 30-06 but I still love the 30-06.
ECTBWHO 1 year ago
Thanks, I'll look into it. Sorry if I aggravated ya'. Just wondering.
MetallicaPwnsAll 1 year ago
I apologize for the chin music. WHAT aggravated me was when I was informed that there is a bill somewhere that whats to ban the M-1 Carbine. M-1 Garand, Mini 14, and the M1-A1.
And all Shotguns. Unlikely that it will pass due to the shotgun part. THATS WHAT AGGRAVATED ME.
ECTBWHO 1 year ago
@ECTBWHO Oh shit. You're kidding I hope... I was planning on buying an M1 Garand soon..
MetallicaPwnsAll 1 year ago
No kidding. They want to take all guns away from us old news. Ill E-mail you a link from the NRA. Just makes me wanna praise the CMP for mailing M1 Garand's and Carbines to the homes of Millions of People with out papers. I ticks me off when people want to ban and or destroy relic firearms.
ECTBWHO 1 year ago
All of a sudden, there is a war between real guns and airsoft guns.
I own both. I love them both.
So where is the problem ?
SteelScream88 2 years ago
The heck with airsoft,I want one of these!
Rugr22Plinker 2 years ago
it has full auto to, it's intense.
22bjonah 2 years ago
Long lasting sound lol... Probably the echo
eversinceity 2 years ago
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have a think tho in Vietnam very lucky soldiers would get access to the almighty AR-10 a 7.62 mm assault rifle very simpler to that of the AR-15 but with a lot more stopping power
bloutyben 2 years ago
The AR10 was never adopted by the military unless I am missing something.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
Hey, isn't the M-14 a M1 Garand, and another automatic weapon combined???
NSTER1995 2 years ago
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m1 garand? i dont think so.
im pretty sure its just a m1a carbine but fully automatic. (i may be wrong?)
f1rehawkZ 2 years ago
the m14 was made to have a fully automatic bigger capacity rifle other than the garand or m1a1 carbine
hogansheroesfan 2 years ago
yea dude,it is an M1 Garand,with an extended mag. *f1rehawkZ* is just talkin shit he dont know.
dominic970 2 years ago
m1 garands are chambered for the 30-06, m14s are .308
bigdude90 2 years ago
i know dude,i was just correcting that dude that said the m14 is an "m1a carbine but fully automatic"
dominic970 2 years ago
For anyone who might read this, the Garand and the M14/M1A are two different rifles. The receiver is very very similar, as the M14 is based off of the Garand. However, the operating rod is different, and the internals of the receiver are different. The Garand takes 8 round En Bloc clips, whereas the M14 takes a detachable box magazine. Not all Garands are .30-06, the Navy versions were 7.62 x 51 (.308 Win), which is the same round as the M14.
pyronuc 2 years ago
Also, the M1A and the M14 are exactly the same rifle, with the exception that the M14 is select fire (semi-auto or full-auto) and the M1A is the "civilian" clone that fires in semi-auto only. The fire control parts in the receiver are not interchangeable, and the interior of the receiver is slightly different in the M1A to prevent the full-auto parts from being installed. Beyond that, the rifles are identical.
pyronuc 2 years ago
very good explanation, now i know, tnx alot
cyther39 2 years ago
Yeah, no problem. That's the short and sweet explanation, anyhow. That's based off of what I've read about the two firearms, and my practical experience with the two I own. I have an M1 Garand who's serial number places it as a 1942 year of production, but it was refurbished after the war and has a newer 1950 barrel. I also have an M1A (M14 clone), and both of them are a blast to shoot. I always wanted a "real" M14, but I don't think that will happen for legal and financial reasons.
pyronuc 2 years ago
thanks, now i know. (arguing on the internet is how i learn)
f1rehawkZ 2 years ago
And knowing is half the battle.
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godzilla74114 2 years ago 27
its like comparing a wasr and a saiga. both built on the same idea but for tottally different
johncoons1994 2 years ago
The m14 was designed to replace the M1 Garand M1918 BAR and I think even the M1 Thompson.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
yep, unfortunately it didnt quite work out how they planned, but it still has a place as a sniper rifle for US troops.
1cme1 2 years ago
The M14 is an excellent rifle that exceeds most of the military needs. The only problem is it is too good a rifle and not good enough a machine gun for what the military wants. The military believes more rounds fired equals more enemy killed. Vietnam shows 100,000+ rounds per kill compared to 25,000 rounds per kill in WW2.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
one shot one kill my brotha
luckylarryblam 2 years ago
That's how it should be.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
Its funny how they wanted a fully auto weapon and they disowned the m14 due to bad recoil, so they get the m16 which has barely any and can pump out more rounds then any other assault rifle, and what do they do... say full auto is bad and switched all the m16s to semi auto lol.
BurroBurrito1 2 years ago
Seriously it is retarded. Full auto is really inefficient.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
no, if your soldiers are trained not to do a mag dump every time they see one guy....
BurroBurrito1 2 years ago
That is what the M16 was designed to do though. The round was chosen so the rifle could be fired accurately with long burst of automatic fire.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
yea, but the only reason they changed it was so that dumb ass's wont run out of ammo with in the first 30 seconds of the firefight, and to give the barrel time to cool down
BurroBurrito1 2 years ago
Still the main function of the M16 is to provide accurate long range full automatic fire. If they wanted long range semi auto and short range full auto performance they would have stuck with the M14.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
Note true. It was so the solider could carry more ammo. Thats why the selecter goes safe, semi, full. In fact the military was getting away from full auto on them cause of the waste of ammo. Thats where the 3 rd burst comes in. No gun is dead on at long ranges in full auto it recoils no matter what the caliber. A little barrel rise only get worse the farther out the target gets. The AK is meant for full auto. So young untrained men could shoot it if need be. Spray & Pray.
chuckiep268 2 years ago
@disturbedone5009
M16s are not fully automatic
GMPenguinator 2 years ago
Actually it depends on what model but burst modes are still considered fully automatic.
disturbedone5009 2 years ago
Basically right, but the Armalite rifles produced for the military were always select fire. They've all had a semi-auto position on the selector between safe and auto. The differences in fire control between the different variants was a difference in the type of auto. Some were full auto and some had a burst cam and would only fire 3 rounds per trigger pull, but all had a semi-auto function. You are basically right, in the respect that they switched from full auto to burst to save ammo.
pyronuc 2 years ago
back then, it was a Rambo era.. :)) lol
cyther39 2 years ago
thats right, real men dont use airsoft
Mattohn 2 years ago
So you run around the forest shooting your friends with real guns? Nice...
It's called a sport for a reason. Rifle ranges are for real guns and "grown up tag" is for airsoft.
Phalanx217 2 years ago
airsoft is fo kiddies.
drworm15 2 years ago 4
Or for people who live in Canada, where you can't even have a pellet gun with over 500 fps.
monkeyslaye 2 years ago
Except for training organizations that require airsoft rifles, like Systema, for authentic and accurate simulations. :P
ebayebayebayebayebay 2 years ago
THANK GOD! If this was another fucking airsoft video i was gonna throw my computer out a window!!!!!!!!
bigdude90 2 years ago 65
lol
existentialvoid 2 years ago
@bigdude90 I get so angry that I type things in looking for real guns and it ends up beings about airsoft!!!
jdeangelis99 1 year ago
@bigdude90 LOL
PatTheRiot 11 months ago
yes, that is true they did switch to the lighter m16 in vietnam partly due to weight but also due in part to massive lobbying by colt. They also wanted a lighter round for less overall weight. however with a heavy rifle recoil isnt bad. Matter of fact there is very little actual felt recoil when shooting 150 gr. ball ammo out of the m-14. distance does affect accuracy, but the .308 is ACCURATE out to 300 yds, with practice and a good scope it does not affect it any more than a lighter bullet.
woohog1 2 years ago
"keepshooting" ... as in, you might get lucky & hit something eventually? LOL
chevysal70 2 years ago
at distance accuracy suffers. 300 yrd = 1ft bullet drop
fliguyman06 2 years ago
this version of the m14 is great, but the new Mk14 EBR is a far better rifle than the m16 or m4
nickap47 2 years ago
Pretty much ALL bullets, regardless of caliber and grain are going to suffer a significant amount of bullet drop at farther distances, but it's easily compensated for by a trained marksman with a high quality scope who knows how to accurately judge distance, calculate bullet drop, and windage to make adjustments to his scope. Some high power rounds, like the .50 BMG or the Barret .416 have an extremely flat trajectory at similar distances, but still drop noticeably forcing you to compensate.
pyronuc 2 years ago
How this rifle performs compared to the m-16?
Cuajinice 2 years ago
it is a higher caliber than the m16 and has excellent stopping power and amazing accuracy compared to the lower caliber m16
michaeloflaherty 2 years ago
but the m16 is fully automatic to semi automic so you get more bullets for the kill you need, and dont forget the m16 is amazingly lighter than the m14. lol.. thats why we used m16's in vietnam
xXLairXx 2 years ago
The heck with airsoft,I want one of these.
22CanPlinker 2 years ago 5
but then your limited to the range :(
haxforcandy 2 years ago
your mama!!! lol jk :D
LiLAzNKiD12345 2 years ago
Anyone have thoughts as to why certain mags will nose dive/ not work? I have CMI and W both suck... Help
osprey308 2 years ago
this is what i like to see,,a real m14 n not a bullshit plastic bb gun..nice clip fellas
watalskio8 3 years ago
I went to the firing range with a friend of mine and fired his M14 and found that the recoil wasn't as bad as I thought it would be,in fact ive fired the ruger mini 30 which takes a 7.62x39 cartridge and it kicked harder than the M14 did.
cciminimag 3 years ago
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Nice eye protection, moron
mdlannin 3 years ago
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cokechokehokeoke 3 years ago
why would you need eye protection dumbass
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13fisherman2007 3 years ago
deffinatly not an m1
footballman2332 3 years ago
its a SOCOM M1a. So just a m14 short in a composite stock
apocalypse1298 3 years ago
THAT IS A M1!!
amproto7 3 years ago
This is an M14... The SCOUT version if I'm not wrong...
cloutierpo 3 years ago
its probably the SOCOM version of the m14 its just shorter for close quarters
kennyclone 2 years ago
no sir its a m14
ChromeGhost0219 3 years ago
Magazine = M14
SgtDutterer 3 years ago
That and M1As have freakin cast recievers. LOL JUNK
carbine6 3 years ago
Its a technical/legal point. Military 7.62mm brass cases, having thicker case walls than their civilian counterpart, will obturate at a different rate and thus create a different pressure curve. Manufactuers, for legal reasons, proof their barrels for one or the other. The barrels proofed in .308win are not recommended for 7.62mm NATO because of the pressure curve diff. Those proofed for 7.62 will safely shoot .308win. According to the manufacturer......
carbine6 3 years ago
did u guys know that the .308 round is not exactly the same as the 7.62 military round?bullet diameter on a 7.62 is actually .310
gerardinm 3 years ago
yea. the 308 win and 762 nato are a little different. if a gun fire one it can fire the other i believe.
The 762 nato will fit fine in the m14 but the 308 win is a perfect fit.
pystolwhip 3 years ago
For the Noobs to get a better perspective on the differences between the two rounds, they should use google images for a comparison. Very different rounds.
jimtheman44567 3 years ago
Is that a Springfield SOCOM 16 ?
nehatnehet 3 years ago
looks like an MI garand converted..to m14
adurban 3 years ago
an m14 is a highly moded m1 garand but the m14 has bigger bullets
cobraopts7 3 years ago
the 30-06 fired by the m1 is a longer cartridge than the 308 fired by the m14.both have a .308 cal projectile.
m1garand1959 3 years ago 3
Yes the M1 Garand fires a .30-06 AKA 7.62X63, the M14 fires a .308 AKA 7.62X51
qwertynads3 3 years ago 2
and the M1A has that same bolt design as the M1 garand
SPCkeith 3 years ago
at a close range an ak is better. But yes at range m14 drops all.
jspaz0 3 years ago
Depends on what you mean by close range, if you mean house to house than yes. But close range for an M14 is at the 100 yard mark. At that range, you can just plink away at the enemy and kill them one by one.
D0ublezer0x 3 years ago
m-14 the best mother fucking rifle arround it will rape aks at there own game (spray and pray) and then when it comes to puttin rounds down range it cant be beat...ive got a nm spring field... 10 inch pattern 800 yards im not even a pro or useing match rounds
sseliet88 3 years ago
Here's the thing, I wouldn't carry anything but the M14 into battle. But the AK47 cannot be beat at spray and pray. You can put hundred of rounds down range full auto and it will not quit. The M14 is a great rifle but its cartridge is too big for accurate fully automatic fire.
D0ublezer0x 3 years ago
The ammunition is actually very similar. The Kalashnikov fires a 7.62x39 mm and the M14 fires a 7.62x51 mm cartridge.
arsHW 3 years ago
actually they are very different, same bullet width yes but beyond that everything is different.
jubbles2343 3 years ago
Like jubbles said, the bullet are VERY different. The .308/7.62x51 is a heavy hitting full power rifle cartridge. You must have never seen them side by side (which is fine, I dont blame you). The AK 7.62x39 on the other hand, is very light and is a cross between a pistol and rifle round. The AK's recoil is low while the M14/M1a's recoil is pretty high. Read about the FN FAL or the HK G3 and you will know what I'm talking about.
D0ublezer0x 3 years ago
wonder what the heck that cost
clawfish1 3 years ago
Thats my weapon of choice man.. enjoy it.
thatjarhead9188 3 years ago
SWEET.
PeckerheadDeluxe 3 years ago
Do I spy a m6906 S&W 9mm on the table?
masada223 3 years ago
I trained with the M-14 at Parris Island in boot camp in 1964, and had the M-14 as my weapon for 4 years. I never touched the M16. The M-14 was deadly accurate at 1,000 yards. I never had one jam on me. I heard that the M1A1 is an improved version of the M-14. For example, the flash suppressor does not get out of alignment. Great rifle. I wish I had one.
dwightinutah 3 years ago 8
The new flash suppressor is a phenominal design. When I first bought my M1A I went to the range to try it out and it put 5 rounds in the same hole. It is a great design for keeping the weapon on target for sub minute of angle accuracy.
M25man 3 years ago
the m14 ebr is a newer version of the m14 you ought to take a look at that bad boy
GunShotWound308 3 years ago
I wanna get me some GI grade ones.
T850CSM101a1676 3 years ago
what sling did you attach? Could someone send me a link pls?
thx
Mustang1204 3 years ago
Funny how these clips never show you the target after, who cares about watching someone miss the target
Froggatt 3 years ago 7
i totally agree. =]
reconpepsi 3 years ago 3
Actually firing these things and hitting something are two different expierences I bet
JamesPromIII 3 years ago
what are you talking about? The weapon is amazingly accurate. 22" barrel with a heavy bullet that the wind wont effect.
bigbobkropp 3 years ago 6
I know but you can't see what he's hitting if he's hitting something is the recoil heavy?
JamesPromIII 3 years ago
bigbobkropp: The wind will affect all projectiles.
captcaveman46 3 years ago
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Nice try I could totally tell this were a ak-47
hornswogler 3 years ago
its not an ak its a socom 16
TheSarge399802 3 years ago 5
The SOCOM 16 is a shortened version of the M1-A. Originally the M-14. Look at a picture of an AK. It looks completely different.
GregDotson 3 years ago 3
wow hornswoqler...good job idiot!
pupentaco 3 years ago 2
meine name ist eine hornswogler. du bist eine scheinhund. gespielte!
hornswogler 3 years ago
do you know hat a ak looks like obvious not
pyroboytodumax 3 years ago
what's the diference between M14 and socom 16? the caliber, the shorter barrel and that's all?
sargeantbanana 3 years ago
No...they redesigned the gas tub and flash suppressor! It's a little lighter than the M1A and it's only semi-auto! They are the same caliber but yes it has a shorter barrel! It is a great rifle! I also have an M!A!
countrysamurai 3 years ago
M1A is the civilian legal m14, that is why it is only semi, they are made in full auto though.
jimnumberuno 3 years ago
air soft? are you retarded? Air soft toys are just that: toys.
jackspratt409 4 years ago 9
i have a military grade M14 its pimp!!!!
50Cent507 4 years ago
i have a m14 and is the great sniper rifle that i have
Canillus 4 years ago
A Socom 16 is not the same as a M14, even if both are in the M1A family, but I'm sure you know that, good vid.
AirsoftJunkie 4 years ago
even tho .308 and 7.62x51 are about the same...i wouldnt shoot 7.62x51nato in a rifle maked .308 do to the 7.62 being made for higher pressurers then the .308, buts its completely safe to shot .308 in a rifle maked 7.62nato
aaronburdett 4 years ago
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is this bullets airsoft BB or paintball??
SoulMan1861 4 years ago
are you fucking serious? can't you tell by the bang and the ejected shells
DDfear 4 years ago 3
hmmmm its loud and ejects shells.........its a real gun duh
slayer870 4 years ago
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the background noises make it sound like an airsoft gun, you know the rattling of the bbs in the mag
ExterminLord 4 years ago
Are you serious or just dense?
jackspratt409 4 years ago 3
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the rattling is a ficking pistol magazine behind the camera... study ur fuckin guns u fucking suburben fuck
sonoma555 4 years ago
Calm down,jesus christ.
Cahaltor 4 years ago 3
nice
ivedigga 4 years ago
that's the shortest barrel i've ever seen on those.
rjohnjay 4 years ago
Its a SOCOM-16, so believe its only 16" barrel, maybe 18" max.
keepshooting 4 years ago
I noticed the same thing as soon the the vid started :P
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