I attended a fine concert by Nithyasree Mahadevan in Delhi yesterday. No doubt she sang well. What spoiled the show was the Mridangam. Drowned violin totally. After pointing this out, the organisers did some control. not much. The Mridangist was doing a solo!! Incidentally, the legendary Palghat Mani Iyer is Nithyasree's Grandfather
I attended a fine concert by Nithyasree Mahadevan in Delhi yesterday. No doubt she sang well. What spoiled the show was the Mridangam. Drowned violin totally. After pointing this out, the organisers did some control. not much. The Mridangist was doing a solo!!
Good mridangam is fully extinct today. I have stopped going for concerts just because the mridangam accompaniments are all (mostly) stale and uninspiring and solely aim at being subservient to the main artist (so as not to be out of the market). Of course very few exceptions do exist. I would prefer watching this video for another thousand times than going for any other contemporary concert.
Let this 20 min video be an eye-opener to the mridangists today.
Another observation is about the fingering. See how PMI's fingers goes into the Choru while playing the pharans which he incorporates so beautifully into the song. Can you imagaine any contemporary mridangist playing pharans for a song?
Also notice how his left hand raises above in air and falls on the thoppi. That's why we can hear the THA and DHOM very distinct and clear, with lot of weight. Can you hear such THA anywhere now?
This is simply the most pristine form of Carnatic music I have ever heard..This kind of mridangam accompaniment is completely extinct. Notice that there is not even a single thalam cycle where PMI plays sarvalaghu, while today mridangists take refuge in sarvalaghu to cover their incapabilities and lack of imagination in Layam. Today Layam has become separate from the Vocal music. The kind of accompaniment is all very explicit, over-simplified, mechanical and lack imagination.
The popular perception is that of the duo the one that died young - Sivasubramania Iyer was the 'better' of the two..listening to this piece, that too when the singer is well past his prime and in the evening of his life, one surely wonders how the live concerts of the duo in their prime would have been...one cannot even extrapolate...same goes for Palghat Mani...we are indeed blessed that the lord has given Lalgudi a long life and he is still amongst us...
Amazing!! Carnatic, Hindustani, classical, folk--music is music. Why make such a fuss? Listen to what you like and refrain from making stupid comments. If we had a even grain of talent and genius of these giants, then we should comment, or else shut up and just ENJOY. Thanks.
its so great.i ma 40yrs age and never before saw te pictures of palakkad mani iyer and his performances(heard a lot about him).thanks vichela,god bless you for this type of sincere works.thanks
Great raga Great rendition The trio of giants are truly amazing I have added this video to my favourites
By the way if a Hindustani music lover makes a nasty comment on Carnatic Music, let us leave him alone and let him wallow in his own filth A true music lover will never make such shit of a comment
Music knows no language I am surprised by the commentary describing Carnatic Music is more abrasive If a true music lover makes such a nasty but totally ignorant comment either he is a fanatic or lacks musical ears to enjoy the niceties of Carnatic music I am sure like me you also do not hate the music in which we do not have knowledge
Regards
ST IYER
( I am 60 and a retired Finance executive happily settled in Chennai)
Thank you sir for your explanation, i too am a music fanatic and a young artist, i have learned and am still learning both the arts of carnatic and hindustani music - and i personally feel that one should not compare one art form to another. Both styles of music are different and unique but is still some how brought together in some form of raag or tal. in addition i believe that u have a great understanding in classical music. May god bless you.
I am glad that you are a budding musician I formally lstarted learning when I was 22 at Shanmukananda Hall in Bombay I was then working in BARC as a young power plant engineer Being my first job I was more concentrating in music (much against the wishes of my brother) I sarted coming late to home from my class . I was spending two hours of every evening from 8-30 PM attending to the personal needs of my Guru This continued for 4 years Oh those days!
It's amazing that u have acquired so much of experience. For the past 38 yrs u have been "1 with the music" i 2 have started late learning this art For the past 5 yrs i had began my practice (but I have had an interest since a child) and ever since then I have been trying to do solid 3 to 4 hours of practice every day.I'm currently settled in CND and I find it very difficult 2 keep 2 my daily routine nevertheless I still put in the effort to do practice for an hr.may I ask what u have learned
I am at best an enthusiastic student of Vocal music wondering what to pick from the great ocean of Carnatic music All these I have just started looking at the pearls This life and many lives there after are not sufficient to sing with swara sudham of all the creations of great composers leave alone master the great music
I am essentialy a bathroom singer I spend about one hour each day to sing along with great musicians singing either in Youtube or other wonderful sites
The story is that Palakkad Mani was never in time with a metronome. He played to a beat of his own and created such marvelous rhythms. Which goes to show that all the strictness of form of Carnatic music is only the chrysalis. Once the butterfly is fully formed, it flies free to much greater heights.
What a superb rendition! What class! Absolutely moving. Palghat and Lalgudi add to the lustre and make it thousandfold! Hats off to these legends! I'd love to go back in time and listen to them all over again live if possible.
Thanks vichella. Alathur the doyen of tradition, a devotee of purity, a maestro in laya , combined with the genius in laya Palghat Mani and Lalgudi , what else can you expect but sheer magic ! The raga is Thodi the traditional bastion of Alathur , it becomes heavenly. The faultless rendition of neraval and alapana though short brings out the essence of thodi's subtle nuances. Both Lalgudi and Alathur match each other. Ofcourse I should not fail to mention the thani of Palghat.
Alathur Bros,GNB belong to generation which valued bhakti,purity of manodharma sangeetham more than just pleasing the crowd 9they offerred their talent for nominal remunerations sometimes free....?unbelievable generation of musicians!! God bless .Raja
Its the passion with which he sings. At that age people fine it hard to align shruti and begin to sound stale. Palghat Mani had great respect for Srinivasa Iyer. Infact I have heard that he is the one who persuaded Srinivasa Iyer to start singing solo after Sivasubramanya Iyer passed away in 1965.
Lalgudi on the violin is a treat. Too bad we cannot see much of his concerts live as before. Each one was a gem - a masterclass in technique and perfection
Hindustani music is more melodious and meditative. Carnatic music is devotional and therefore mathematics is given more importance. So Carnatic music sounds more abrasive than Hindustani. Taal is given more importance than raag.
If boring people with simple and straight forward ragas with terribly jarring brigas is a virtue, Hindustani wins gold medal. Almost anything goes in HIndustani music as misra as it is a music without serious theory backing. Every Gharana (mis)interprets ragas in its own ways and butchers it to death. I hated to write this stuff about Hindustani music. But, this is how one deals with stereotypes.
Hindustani music needs a resurgence ... it is still great music, but I listen mostly to old recordings of Hindustani music. Both genres are brilliant. No genre is better, both are for God.
Sorry man, but I don't know where you got the idea that carnatic music sounds abrasive. You must have had a really bad experience with a terrible carnatic singer in your life for you to get that idea. Thaalam is not given more importance than raagam, they're both equally important. Devotion is the main idea behind carnatic music, and thaalam and raagam are necessary to bring out that devotion. One cannot be without the other in any carnatic song.
If you think so, then what the hell are you doing listening to Carnatic music? If you don't have anything good to say, then leave. Rank isn't anything important when it comes to devotion.
Precision is not important in Hindustani Music and so one really needs to choose properly as to what they want to listen. There is lot of 'easy to digest' music available in Hindustani Format but everything that is soothing to the ear can not be termed as calssical. Carnatic music on the other hand is purely classical - No compromise.
Is this Aryakuddi Ramanuja Iyengar or is this Alathur? Anybody?
rapiddev 4 months ago
@rapiddev this is Alathur srinivasa Iyer.
3sadagopan 3 months ago
I attended a fine concert by Nithyasree Mahadevan in Delhi yesterday. No doubt she sang well. What spoiled the show was the Mridangam. Drowned violin totally. After pointing this out, the organisers did some control. not much. The Mridangist was doing a solo!! Incidentally, the legendary Palghat Mani Iyer is Nithyasree's Grandfather
angaraian 6 months ago
I attended a fine concert by Nithyasree Mahadevan in Delhi yesterday. No doubt she sang well. What spoiled the show was the Mridangam. Drowned violin totally. After pointing this out, the organisers did some control. not much. The Mridangist was doing a solo!!
angaraian 6 months ago
Godd opportunity to listen tothis !
jyothisharatna 7 months ago
Palghat Mani Iyer is Palghat Mani Iyer. No more can be said
hi82248 7 months ago
only one video of MAHA VIDHWAN'S PERFORMANCE .........
narasimhan07111994 7 months ago
the video is a little bad but i love palaghat mani iyer
nandhaksamy1998 1 year ago
It is just fantastic to see this performance by the great artists.
Uday2310 1 year ago
Good mridangam is fully extinct today. I have stopped going for concerts just because the mridangam accompaniments are all (mostly) stale and uninspiring and solely aim at being subservient to the main artist (so as not to be out of the market). Of course very few exceptions do exist. I would prefer watching this video for another thousand times than going for any other contemporary concert.
reethigowla 1 year ago
Let this 20 min video be an eye-opener to the mridangists today.
Another observation is about the fingering. See how PMI's fingers goes into the Choru while playing the pharans which he incorporates so beautifully into the song. Can you imagaine any contemporary mridangist playing pharans for a song?
Also notice how his left hand raises above in air and falls on the thoppi. That's why we can hear the THA and DHOM very distinct and clear, with lot of weight. Can you hear such THA anywhere now?
reethigowla 1 year ago
This is simply the most pristine form of Carnatic music I have ever heard..This kind of mridangam accompaniment is completely extinct. Notice that there is not even a single thalam cycle where PMI plays sarvalaghu, while today mridangists take refuge in sarvalaghu to cover their incapabilities and lack of imagination in Layam. Today Layam has become separate from the Vocal music. The kind of accompaniment is all very explicit, over-simplified, mechanical and lack imagination.
reethigowla 1 year ago
The popular perception is that of the duo the one that died young - Sivasubramania Iyer was the 'better' of the two..listening to this piece, that too when the singer is well past his prime and in the evening of his life, one surely wonders how the live concerts of the duo in their prime would have been...one cannot even extrapolate...same goes for Palghat Mani...we are indeed blessed that the lord has given Lalgudi a long life and he is still amongst us...
abaswara 1 year ago
Amazing!! Carnatic, Hindustani, classical, folk--music is music. Why make such a fuss? Listen to what you like and refrain from making stupid comments. If we had a even grain of talent and genius of these giants, then we should comment, or else shut up and just ENJOY. Thanks.
coonoor47 1 year ago 6
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Doyen of Carnatic Music !
jyothisharatna 1 year ago
Doyen of Carnatic Music !
jyothisharatna 1 year ago
sincere contribution to karnatic. blessings!
haribranavan1 1 year ago
pure bliss !!! Thanks you !!!
bang123alore 1 year ago
Thank you so much, this is a supreme upload!
panchamkauns 1 year ago
Alathur is the Samrat in Carnatic Music/ Very good Paramparyam.
jyothisharatna 2 years ago
this is a very raw form of music...very ancient roots for sure..
the rythmic beats are trippy..
KillinDaWelfareMCs 2 years ago
Great post - Great Team!
IndyWorldyMusic 2 years ago
wow great
sunfield00 2 years ago
wow...fantastic...
kayemca 2 years ago
When was this concert? (what year) Alathur is amazing, Lalgudi is incredible - I wish I could meet him.
absmasta48 2 years ago
superb video
padmanvg 2 years ago
its so great.i ma 40yrs age and never before saw te pictures of palakkad mani iyer and his performances(heard a lot about him).thanks vichela,god bless you for this type of sincere works.thanks
texlinesox 2 years ago
fantastic. Very rare to see such a combination
Sugavanam 2 years ago
superb
p01989 2 years ago
Great raga Great rendition The trio of giants are truly amazing I have added this video to my favourites
By the way if a Hindustani music lover makes a nasty comment on Carnatic Music, let us leave him alone and let him wallow in his own filth A true music lover will never make such shit of a comment
nimnit 2 years ago
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damrug2 2 years ago
Dear Sir,
Music knows no language I am surprised by the commentary describing Carnatic Music is more abrasive If a true music lover makes such a nasty but totally ignorant comment either he is a fanatic or lacks musical ears to enjoy the niceties of Carnatic music I am sure like me you also do not hate the music in which we do not have knowledge
Regards
ST IYER
( I am 60 and a retired Finance executive happily settled in Chennai)
nimnit 2 years ago
Thank you sir for your explanation, i too am a music fanatic and a young artist, i have learned and am still learning both the arts of carnatic and hindustani music - and i personally feel that one should not compare one art form to another. Both styles of music are different and unique but is still some how brought together in some form of raag or tal. in addition i believe that u have a great understanding in classical music. May god bless you.
G. Shankar
damrug2 2 years ago
Dear Mr Sankar,
I am glad that you are a budding musician I formally lstarted learning when I was 22 at Shanmukananda Hall in Bombay I was then working in BARC as a young power plant engineer Being my first job I was more concentrating in music (much against the wishes of my brother) I sarted coming late to home from my class . I was spending two hours of every evening from 8-30 PM attending to the personal needs of my Guru This continued for 4 years Oh those days!
MayGod bless you
nimnit 2 years ago
It's amazing that u have acquired so much of experience. For the past 38 yrs u have been "1 with the music" i 2 have started late learning this art For the past 5 yrs i had began my practice (but I have had an interest since a child) and ever since then I have been trying to do solid 3 to 4 hours of practice every day.I'm currently settled in CND and I find it very difficult 2 keep 2 my daily routine nevertheless I still put in the effort to do practice for an hr.may I ask what u have learned
damrug2 2 years ago
Dear Sankar,
I am at best an enthusiastic student of Vocal music wondering what to pick from the great ocean of Carnatic music All these I have just started looking at the pearls This life and many lives there after are not sufficient to sing with swara sudham of all the creations of great composers leave alone master the great music
I am essentialy a bathroom singer I spend about one hour each day to sing along with great musicians singing either in Youtube or other wonderful sites
nimnit 2 years ago
The story is that Palakkad Mani was never in time with a metronome. He played to a beat of his own and created such marvelous rhythms. Which goes to show that all the strictness of form of Carnatic music is only the chrysalis. Once the butterfly is fully formed, it flies free to much greater heights.
Jayadevan456 3 years ago 6
Amazing!!
hollyrabbit12 3 years ago
What a superb rendition! What class! Absolutely moving. Palghat and Lalgudi add to the lustre and make it thousandfold! Hats off to these legends! I'd love to go back in time and listen to them all over again live if possible.
yaschidam 3 years ago
What a Violin support by Lalgudi :-) Hats off :-)
dvraaghu 3 years ago
You sound surprised? Why?
worlddominator62 3 years ago
yeah true. Not to get suprised bcz Lalgudi is genius
dvraaghu 3 years ago
wow.. this is one my favs
kirankalkunte 3 years ago
wow the mike is so far from him...i dun think he really needs it
sasa110 3 years ago
Thank you for posting this video
ayyappan
konikkatayyappa 3 years ago
Thanks vichella. Alathur the doyen of tradition, a devotee of purity, a maestro in laya , combined with the genius in laya Palghat Mani and Lalgudi , what else can you expect but sheer magic ! The raga is Thodi the traditional bastion of Alathur , it becomes heavenly. The faultless rendition of neraval and alapana though short brings out the essence of thodi's subtle nuances. Both Lalgudi and Alathur match each other. Ofcourse I should not fail to mention the thani of Palghat.
sonny19xx 3 years ago
simply great music... could meditate on this effortlessly... so mellifluous, what a classical mridangam piece by Palakkad Mani!!
inoidontknow 3 years ago
thodi...thodi...thodi...i love! i wish i cld sing like that...sigh..
sasa110 3 years ago
Alathur Bros,GNB belong to generation which valued bhakti,purity of manodharma sangeetham more than just pleasing the crowd 9they offerred their talent for nominal remunerations sometimes free....?unbelievable generation of musicians!! God bless .Raja
nimmahyd 3 years ago
In what year was this recorded?
veryangrystorks 4 years ago
When I listend to this clip Iam like WOW!
THis is probably one of the best clips I have
seen in YOU TUBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sitakannan 4 years ago
carnatic music is always the best...
its great...
hprmusic 4 years ago
this is brilliant! what is he singing?
harshavr 4 years ago
Composition: Kaddanu vaariki
Raga: Thodi
Tala: Aadi
Composer: Tyaagaraaja
shankhaacharya 3 years ago
Words cannot describe alathur brothers.. The man was a genius... His voice breaks me down sometimes... God bless
gautamcit 4 years ago
Any Audio CD/Cassettes of this great concert available?
What a Bliss!
Thanks for sharing.
May God Bless..
kkartha 4 years ago
thanks!!!
utuutube 4 years ago
what a simple person! I like his way of singing. Can you find such a great personlity without any pride and pomp nowadays?
shobisha 4 years ago
Its the passion with which he sings. At that age people fine it hard to align shruti and begin to sound stale. Palghat Mani had great respect for Srinivasa Iyer. Infact I have heard that he is the one who persuaded Srinivasa Iyer to start singing solo after Sivasubramanya Iyer passed away in 1965.
takla3210 4 years ago
what ragais this? thodi?
sasa110 4 years ago
Yes, it is Thodi and it is mentioned (in Tamil) at the start of this video.
gkgenius 4 years ago
it is nothing but divine nectar from the three legends.
thanks for posting.....
hvpramod 4 years ago
Lalgudi on the violin is a treat. Too bad we cannot see much of his concerts live as before. Each one was a gem - a masterclass in technique and perfection
yorulz 4 years ago
What a rare recording! My only pity is that we didn't have advanced recording techniques then, which don't do justice to the actual quality rendered.
yorulz 4 years ago
Its the video whose quality shows its age. The audio is excellent.
waughdesilva 4 years ago
thank you for posting this!
fieldsong 4 years ago
amazing and great stuff. Please post such videos. Good job. Subrahmanyan CNS, Munich.Germany.
Dtd: 01.05.2007
1978subbu 4 years ago
incredible.. I've seen this with my mom more than 15 years ago. .and it's here on You Tube.. amazing..
OneFatSuzerain 4 years ago
It is presumed you saw this recording 15 years back... Couldn't possibly have seen the "katecheri" live...
crazyhawes 4 years ago
thank you so much for this treasure. what an awesome treat to have three giants on the same stage!
collegev 4 years ago
Hindustani music is way better!!!!!!!11
tabla524 4 years ago
Hindustani music is more melodious and meditative. Carnatic music is devotional and therefore mathematics is given more importance. So Carnatic music sounds more abrasive than Hindustani. Taal is given more importance than raag.
sonofthedestroyer 4 years ago
If boring people with simple and straight forward ragas with terribly jarring brigas is a virtue, Hindustani wins gold medal. Almost anything goes in HIndustani music as misra as it is a music without serious theory backing. Every Gharana (mis)interprets ragas in its own ways and butchers it to death. I hated to write this stuff about Hindustani music. But, this is how one deals with stereotypes.
nammanur 4 years ago
Hindustani music needs a resurgence ... it is still great music, but I listen mostly to old recordings of Hindustani music. Both genres are brilliant. No genre is better, both are for God.
ghilabari 4 years ago
Sorry man, but I don't know where you got the idea that carnatic music sounds abrasive. You must have had a really bad experience with a terrible carnatic singer in your life for you to get that idea. Thaalam is not given more importance than raagam, they're both equally important. Devotion is the main idea behind carnatic music, and thaalam and raagam are necessary to bring out that devotion. One cannot be without the other in any carnatic song.
ajay226 4 years ago
I am a student of Mridangam. It is my favourite percussion instrument. I watched this video because of Palghat Mani Iyer.
sonofthedestroyer 4 years ago
If you think so, then what the hell are you doing listening to Carnatic music? If you don't have anything good to say, then leave. Rank isn't anything important when it comes to devotion.
ajay226 4 years ago
Precision is not important in Hindustani Music and so one really needs to choose properly as to what they want to listen. There is lot of 'easy to digest' music available in Hindustani Format but everything that is soothing to the ear can not be termed as calssical. Carnatic music on the other hand is purely classical - No compromise.
heavyatheart 4 years ago
It is just fantastic to see these performances by thge great artists. Thank you for posting it. Please look for more off these or start making DVD's
arkrishnan 4 years ago
please try for more concerts of these three legends,preferably old.feel like watching live concert.
balusrr 4 years ago
precious gems try add more of these combinations
balusrr 4 years ago
How can we thank you enough?
donbradman 4 years ago
amazing..
eswinger2001 4 years ago
great and thankful
agsmenon 4 years ago
Wonderful. What is the venue and date ? Is it an early DD programme ?
Kalyan
tvks 4 years ago
this is amazing stuff
bmram73 4 years ago
god bless you
aumentada 4 years ago