@Lasadialarwen Wow no offence but have you been living under a rock? Yeah they broke up like last year... Theres a lot of stuff going round that Yulia didn't like their management but Lena did so they broke up. But uhm Lena released a video in August called Never Forget. Some say its a sequal to the Snowfalls video... just take a look lol. Oh and they both have websites up with sample music and such, I suggest to you check it out =)
@Lasadialarwen Sure no problem. I just hope that the girls.. er Ladies, decide to re-unite as t.A.T.u. once in awhile and that their solo careers go well.
I love this song and video so much! t.A.T.u are amazing artists! But what I don't understand is how Lil Wayne - Dear Anne (Stan Part 2) gets more hits then this song!! All he has done is took this song and rapped in it?
2. You get arrested for doing performing explicit actions in public (especially in amusement parks for children). Except if someone blows you up, but they weren't aware of it.
@Alanassy I know. They're described as girls who like people of the same sex, which is in their case lesbianism. But maybe they're trying to tell us things like "love knows no gender".
@GeorgeAzur though, i still think it's a great track. but i dont rly like seeing lesbians making out with guys cuz its just not their nature, and surely doesnt feel good. but i dont deny their rights to do it lol.
@GeorgeAzur Nah I'm not gay. I'm not sure whether I'm bisexual though, but it doesn't matter. When it comes to videos like this, movies, series, anime and stuff, I usually imagine myself in the position of the characters. In All About Us there's also a straight scene. If it was the only video with it then it'd be completely fine with me bcuz it was like "vengance" to her GF, and if this was the only one then it's OK, but now that I see both, I wonder, why r they forcing themselves?
@cruelcore1 Watch Anatomy of t.A.T.u. It stated they acted gay for attention. They even dropped the act in 2005 for their next album Lyudi Invalidy/Dangerous and Moving.
You know they broke up officially two months ago right? And that they kinda hate each other now.
@cruelcore1 Hmm...It's a shame that they feel that way towards each other. I'm still a bit shocked after finding out the All About Us girls I loved at age 12 (5 years ago) are like this now. A real shame because I never got to see them live.
@GeorgeAzur They have great heart-touching tracks and I really like them. But too bad I'm not into Pop so much. I'd prefer if they were rock (soft, hard - doesnt matter), but im into specific electronica (so tht even their electronica is not my type). But I hope they keep up the good work, I hav them on my MP4 BTW.
So great they aren't commercial pop u can hear on MTV (dont wanna mendle in anyones taste in music but commercial pop makes ME puke).
GUYS SEE LENA KATINA (redhead from t.A.T.u.) - NEVER FORGET, TRAILER! THE VIDEO WILL BE AWESOME! YOU WILL FIND IT TO HER OFFICIAL YOUTUBE ACCOUNT lenakatinamusic
Stop talking like that, all of that is just your opinion. I think Lil Wayne is one of the best rappers alive, and he did NOT ruin this beautiful song.
@frankdbruin the beat was good...lil wayne made it wack...maybe if he featured eminem it would be alright...but waynes was spitting wack ass metaphores that didnt have anything to do with a crazed fan...that nigga is garbage!
I heard this song on the radio today and I thought it was strange considering the song is old. Lil wayne took the beat and the rap is almost similar to eminem's. I wish lil wayne would have been more creative and made the song more his.
like i said on the english version of this song.. Weezy didnt make it better or worse, he made it work; its not like he went spittin 30 min that u could say Dear Anne is better or worse.. totally CRACK NEW song n that it gots a part of 30 min in just pulled it all togetha.. so stfu all ya haterzzzzz go find soin better to do :]
i heard my brother playing this song with lil wayne then i was searching up tatu and 30 min came up and i realized a part of this was in dear anne it was a kewl i love this song and dear anne by lil wayne love them both
You guys are fucking stupid if you think Wayne took this song. The producer Swizz Beats took the sample from this song and it it into a beat. He wanted Eminem to make a new version of Stan, but he denied. Wayne hopped on the beat and that's the story. Btw he made it much better :)
@booshbabe55 its called "anne"....it is supposed to be the stan part 2...stan (by eminem) was one of the greatest rap songs in my opinion & it had an original chorus...lil wayne made a mediocre version sampling this song...
LIKE A BOSS.
TheMiiirna 1 day ago
Tan perfectas como siempre!♥
MaruVB1507 5 days ago
amo esta song....
SuperJanie16 5 days ago
Julia looks like a modern Louise Brooks
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kiiopyu 1 week ago
julia lena estan bien buenas!!!
abraham541 2 weeks ago
soy fanática al rock pero esto es lo mejor
estherpacini1 2 weeks ago
es bueno me gusta
estherpacini1 2 weeks ago
Japierdole ;(
PPPanPuszek 2 weeks ago
me encanta este videooo
marbella493 2 weeks ago
desde haace uuf que escucho esta cancion & no me canso la escucho cuando estoy triste C: XD'
SpieluhRRosenrot 2 weeks ago 2
3:03 Irene Villa
verzotha 3 weeks ago
So beautiful, I'm heart is bleeding!
ThePrettyBlackRibbon 4 weeks ago in playlist t.A.T.u
OmG¡¡¡ que linda cancion¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¿ I LoVe T.a.T.u.
TheMissmurder2012 1 month ago
dios con razon el grupo se desunio
MarToki01 1 month ago
@MarToki01 xq dices que con razón cual es la razón según tu?
Eliosrc 1 month ago
esta es la cancion q mas me gusta de tatu y la baile en mis xv años jeje
LUIS2007ist 1 month ago
mierda son hermosas
NikoleeD 1 month ago 4
Las oportunidades fallan, los trenes se descarrilan
Juc4rlo5 1 month ago 2
Love the mickey mouse clock!
Asunlight17 1 month ago
@Asunlight17 And I love the horse's paw that was flying away! LOL
Asunlight17 1 month ago
creo que ella tiene unos cuantos sentimientos "yandore"
ValeLQ 1 month ago
when yulia used to be pretty
buzz6794 2 months ago 2
pues a mi megustan sus canciones y sus videos.
iselaochoarodriguez 2 months ago
aww so sad!
Madlyrandom220 2 months ago
Those first few echoing notes give me goosebumps
DanseMacabre700 2 months ago
lalala.... q linda cancion y da pena
xXBebezhitaxX 2 months ago
Que pervertidos en un parque de diversiones y ni era de noche D:
QwertySoy 2 months ago 8
@QwertySoy Siempre jugaron a ser perbertidas, mirá los otros videos y escucha las letras... Actuan como lesbianas, aunque no lo son =) (Creo)
Eliana1181 2 months ago
Amazing song :D
AjanaFray 2 months ago
Très belle chanson.
ThomasCMPunk 2 months ago
Dear Anne .. my number one fan.
Lil wayne.
PimpBlackD 2 months ago 2
Yo tambien les hubiese puesto una bomba de buena gana xD
southside644 3 months ago 4
Dear Anne..
misterb1az3d 3 months ago 4
ME encanto el video y la cancion...
xod3lles 3 months ago
I love my best friend... But not that way...
Sonamyy 3 months ago
esta canciion es bellisiima, la trama y la letra son geniiales.....
like porque me gusta.....!!
larga viida a T.A.T.U.............!!
josesur13hommie 3 months ago 3
Awww TaTu :3
Bellizima cancion <3 <3
Elizarockmetal 3 months ago
o q hubiera dado x ser la q aparece en el el min 0:40 (aunq se q es hombre) pero wow te amo lena
qhaxia 3 months ago in playlist t.A.T.u.
q ´pena da ese video :(
xXBebezhitaxX 3 months ago
.tatu. is the best group is super cool IS UNIQUE ...is creative is great fun both girls are fun wow amazing this is a great video I like, I LOVE ...
cinthiagabriela1 3 months ago
I FEEL LIKE THIS SONG DSA :l
antopump 3 months ago
WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A CLOCK OF MICKEY MOUSE ON A BOMB!?!?!
MyAngelicalDemon 3 months ago 39
cause mickeys bad ass like tatu lolz
snugglebunnylover1 3 months ago
@MyAngelicalDemon I was wondering the same
Fedaalali 2 months ago
@MyAngelicalDemon 2:24 => sarcastic mickey smile ! x)
physixworld 1 month ago
@MyAngelicalDemon cuz' they dont have money to buy another clock??? (a joke)
Rockshadow666 2 weeks ago
tatu is russian!! russian pride!!!
slambakov 4 months ago
God i love these two. I got to see them live and my wife and i just loved it.
mrpenguindood 4 months ago
@mrpenguindood The band broke up, sadly =(
IorekB92 4 months ago 2
@IorekB92 WHAT????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lasadialarwen 4 months ago
@Lasadialarwen there's no more t.A.T.u :(
MissLautner0 3 months ago
@MissLautner0 I died.
Lasadialarwen 3 months ago
@Lasadialarwen Wow no offence but have you been living under a rock? Yeah they broke up like last year... Theres a lot of stuff going round that Yulia didn't like their management but Lena did so they broke up. But uhm Lena released a video in August called Never Forget. Some say its a sequal to the Snowfalls video... just take a look lol. Oh and they both have websites up with sample music and such, I suggest to you check it out =)
IorekB92 3 months ago
@IorekB92 i have been living under a rock. Thanks for clarifying. Cool! I'll hafta chck it out.
Lasadialarwen 3 months ago
@Lasadialarwen Sure no problem. I just hope that the girls.. er Ladies, decide to re-unite as t.A.T.u. once in awhile and that their solo careers go well.
IorekB92 3 months ago
@IorekB92 LOL, Hey, i'll check out your channel if you check out mine. I may even subscribe. XD
Lasadialarwen 3 months ago
@Lasadialarwen Uhm sure I guess but its not like I've uploaded any vids =/
IorekB92 3 months ago
2:32 side boob action o-o
WikedAgentLoser 4 months ago
iso lo que debia hacer lo iso por amor a ella
tiago1111able 4 months ago
yo la conprendo yo aria eso si tubiera valor a mi me pasa eso me gusta una chica pero llatiene novio
tiago1111able 4 months ago
exelente canción, i love so tatu
iluna051210 4 months ago in playlist hoy
lil wayne - dear anne....sampled this song perfectly
superEMye1 4 months ago 2
at 2:57 i would not want to be them (:
killergirl12344 4 months ago
I love tatu
DGeovanna94 4 months ago in playlist Liked
Her Boobs 8-)
xScenexGoesxRawrx3 4 months ago
I love this song and video so much! t.A.T.u are amazing artists! But what I don't understand is how Lil Wayne - Dear Anne (Stan Part 2) gets more hits then this song!! All he has done is took this song and rapped in it?
KayleighJadeex3 4 months ago
so good video!
Gambareanime 4 months ago
i bet you are hot gaiathecreator90
thetubedude82 4 months ago
they are always killing people in their videos hah but I like it
coolfish33 4 months ago
wat did we learn from this all girls are terrorists
thetubedude82 4 months ago
@thetubedude8 3:< im a girl, dumb ass
Gaiathecreator90 4 months ago
Anybody know any other good russian pop projects that blows up minds? I dont think so.
Jaha4848 4 months ago
dear anne my number one fan
raykng1 4 months ago
es hermosa esta cancion!!!!!!!!!
kamila07ful 5 months ago
One part of this song is in Dear Anne - Lil wayne
tb21pol 5 months ago
This song is beautiful... it breaks my heart *-* I love t.A.T.u. !!! <3
juststuckonariot 5 months ago 28
Que dulce vos que tiene...
gabriel30stm 5 months ago
This is a bit unrealistic:
1. Lesbians don't make out with guys.
2. You get arrested for doing performing explicit actions in public (especially in amusement parks for children). Except if someone blows you up, but they weren't aware of it.
cruelcore1 5 months ago
@cruelcore1 You know, bisexual people also exist.
Alanassy 5 months ago
@Alanassy I know. They're described as girls who like people of the same sex, which is in their case lesbianism. But maybe they're trying to tell us things like "love knows no gender".
cruelcore1 5 months ago
@cruelcore1
You do realize it's a little movie with one making out with other's boyfriend and she fantasies about blowing them up, right?
GeorgeAzur 5 months ago
@GeorgeAzur yes i do. but I also have a right to make comments, dont i?
cruelcore1 5 months ago
@GeorgeAzur though, i still think it's a great track. but i dont rly like seeing lesbians making out with guys cuz its just not their nature, and surely doesnt feel good. but i dont deny their rights to do it lol.
cruelcore1 5 months ago
@cruelcore1
Are you gay too?:P
Yes indeed it's a good track.Touches your heart.
GeorgeAzur 5 months ago
@GeorgeAzur Nah I'm not gay. I'm not sure whether I'm bisexual though, but it doesn't matter. When it comes to videos like this, movies, series, anime and stuff, I usually imagine myself in the position of the characters. In All About Us there's also a straight scene. If it was the only video with it then it'd be completely fine with me bcuz it was like "vengance" to her GF, and if this was the only one then it's OK, but now that I see both, I wonder, why r they forcing themselves?
cruelcore1 5 months ago
@cruelcore1
please tell me you're a girl...
In real life they are not gay.Now they are acting.
GeorgeAzur 5 months ago
@GeorgeAzur No I'm not. I'm a guy.
And yeah, I heard that theory too. But we can't really prove it. I still believe they're lesbian though.
cruelcore1 5 months ago
@cruelcore1 Watch Anatomy of t.A.T.u. It stated they acted gay for attention. They even dropped the act in 2005 for their next album Lyudi Invalidy/Dangerous and Moving.
You know they broke up officially two months ago right? And that they kinda hate each other now.
3cheers4Ger 5 months ago
@3cheers4Ger That sounds very interesting xD Its a bit too long so im not sure I'll b able 2 watch it. Though, they might be bi actually.
Hating each other, huh? Thts what happens when you're all the time 2gether with some1 and even involve the job in the relationship.
cruelcore1 5 months ago
@cruelcore1 Hmm...It's a shame that they feel that way towards each other. I'm still a bit shocked after finding out the All About Us girls I loved at age 12 (5 years ago) are like this now. A real shame because I never got to see them live.
3cheers4Ger 5 months ago
@3cheers4Ger yeah, its quite sad. they still might make up though.
cruelcore1 5 months ago
@GeorgeAzur They have great heart-touching tracks and I really like them. But too bad I'm not into Pop so much. I'd prefer if they were rock (soft, hard - doesnt matter), but im into specific electronica (so tht even their electronica is not my type). But I hope they keep up the good work, I hav them on my MP4 BTW.
So great they aren't commercial pop u can hear on MTV (dont wanna mendle in anyones taste in music but commercial pop makes ME puke).
cruelcore1 5 months ago
I'll be there in 30 minutes.
ZPEddieRay 5 months ago
@tatu4life12
people who say that like you are really annoying!just shut up!
natr12377 5 months ago
@natr12377
Im so sorry.... i was just trying to be kinda funny...
Im sorry..:[
KatMeows12 5 months ago
@natr12377
its fine its just people get on my nerves when they do it:P i've seen it alot of times:P
natr12377 5 months ago
I can't believe she blew them up with the bomb. I didn't think she was that pissed. :)
Love89571 5 months ago
I don't like this song.I just love this song!
12344567z 5 months ago
Go Chek My Channel For Remix Of This Song!
Suorapuhe 5 months ago
GUYS SEE LENA KATINA (redhead from t.A.T.u.) - NEVER FORGET, TRAILER! THE VIDEO WILL BE AWESOME! YOU WILL FIND IT TO HER OFFICIAL YOUTUBE ACCOUNT lenakatinamusic
ExcellenceOfInnova 5 months ago
es el mejor video, ellas son las mejores, no importa q digan q son lesbianas...
yoClaudia7742 6 months ago
Awesome song nice work, sad though close to crying, makes me worry about my fiance though...
DarkenedAddiction 6 months ago
The moral of this story? Don't cheat on your girl, SHE MAY JUST BLOW YOUR ASS UP!
heartsdesire456 6 months ago 97
@heartsdesire456 I cheated on my girl and she blew me the next day.
Deejeezy405 4 months ago
she was making a bomb?
stormkittyartist 6 months ago
@stormkittyartist yes...
ZimZum4ever 6 months ago
Si eso pasara en la vida real ya hubieran muerto muchas personas... :P
alezziiitha 6 months ago
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Jealousy will drive you mad.
mmme9 6 months ago
i used to go out with this guy and everytime i would talk 2 him on the phone i would play this song now i just get shivers
dg23d 6 months ago
The perfect murder :)
KaitoMiki 6 months ago
ох ебать, я и не знал, что виззи фанат наших лезбиянок :D но у вэйна как то пиздаце всё равно звучит
RusJako 6 months ago
i like this, but the official remix is better:
griddamus 6 months ago
wayne sent me
HipHopNoCopyRights 6 months ago
Just fell inlove with Russian Lesbians nbd
rockzrappaz 6 months ago
Gaaah.
Fucking love T.aT.u
Thumbs up if this gave you goosebumps :)
SophBMTH 6 months ago 24
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2:56 lol so hard
MrCarlospicywiener 6 months ago
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MrCarlospicywiener 6 months ago
i busted out laughing when they went boom
MrCarlospicywiener 6 months ago
yooo again yall ppl who swear this song is by lil wayne r dumb az fuxxx dead ass no comment!!!!!!
jennypher1 6 months ago
People, this song came out over TEN years ago. Lil Wayne is not here because this song is TATU's and came out first.
cindyirene2001 6 months ago 7
yay, bombs!
scarletfang1 6 months ago
lil wayne's version is fine... its called "dear anne" not 30 minutes though
MrChristurley 6 months ago
i dont hear lil wayne anywhere in this song.. where he at?? :P
darkforestwarriors 6 months ago
That girl is way to bi for me. She is in pieces. How gay is that. They way she blew up on them.
shawnmccori 6 months ago
ChEvErE...
0910110 6 months ago
muy chido este video me encantas t.A.t.u
vic3791 6 months ago
k kuatiko el video... :/
kmiloock 6 months ago
@SharazProductions
Stop talking like that, all of that is just your opinion. I think Lil Wayne is one of the best rappers alive, and he did NOT ruin this beautiful song.
frankdbruin 7 months ago
@frankdbruin
I could name 100 rappers better than Lil Wayne
This song is brilliant though everything from the video to the beat to the lyrics to the laughter to the chorus fits perfectly
Yungnuty 7 months ago
@frankdbruin HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! im sorry did you say wayne is one the best rappers? aahhh that made me laugh.
SharazProductions 7 months ago
@SharazProductions
Lil Wayne didn't, one of his beatmakers did, and I think he did a great job.
He is allowed to do this. You don't have to listen to Lil Wayne's version, just listen to this one if u don't like Lil Wayne's version.
frankdbruin 7 months ago
@frankdbruin the beat was good...lil wayne made it wack...maybe if he featured eminem it would be alright...but waynes was spitting wack ass metaphores that didnt have anything to do with a crazed fan...that nigga is garbage!
SharazProductions 7 months ago
yeah!!! i like this song......
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djmysky 7 months ago
Yulia is the most beautiful girl !! <3 i love her
LittleMonsterNoskcaJ 7 months ago
thumps up if you knew t.A.T.u before you ever knew who the hell katy perry is!!!!! (i did btw!)
CountryGirl5077 7 months ago 252
@CountryGirl5077
I didn't, and am deeply ashamed. DX
ILoveMahCat 4 months ago
@ILoveMahCat Lol
CountryGirl5077 4 months ago
Yulia (black haired girl" reminds me of L from Death Note. xD
I also love this song :O!!!!!!
Rainyboh 7 months ago
2:15 - ass grab
2:31 - side boob
i like
browny174 7 months ago
Holy shit, I just realized how...dark this video is.
The music, the lyrics, the story, the lighting in the video :/
(lmao at them doing it on a carousel though).
I didn't even know what was going on when I was younger, but seeing it now gives me the chills.
drshnty 7 months ago
3:02 a leg ???
lifeinfrontofmyeyes 7 months ago
I hate f***ing Hipsters 8') Eminem did the same thing with "Stan" ...please let us enjoy the remix !!!!! >:(
popaul3d 7 months ago
aww, i used to be scared of this clip when i was young :D
sparrabethshipper 7 months ago
0:41-1:10 this would be a great hook and beat to a "Tha Carter III" song
DjSabsad 7 months ago
Nem vagyok igazán ostoba. Pedig annak tartanak. Az emberek nem sejtik, hogy pontosan tudom, milyenek, és nagyon utálom őket.
Diaviragfan 7 months ago
Where is the other girl?
Mycenaea 7 months ago
i wonder how many of you knew them before you heard 'dear anne'..
PinkRose3112 7 months ago 4
@PinkRose3112 what are you talking about I knew them since "All The Things She Said"
ukendcx2000 7 months ago
@ukendcx2000 ok cool
PinkRose3112 7 months ago
@PinkRose3112 What is "Dear anne"?
lulu67347 7 months ago
@PinkRose3112 what's Dear Anne?
emopanda522 7 months ago
Lil Wayne bring me here, he's a damn good singer, a damn good rapper !
SemaineDunAutreOeil 7 months ago 2
lol, i'd have respect for them if they WERE gay. fuckin' whores. they're not really talented, they just play off sluttiness for attention.
romanticgeek87 7 months ago
@romanticgeek87 wrong. They are talented i've seen them live and i had back stage passes and they huged me so they are beauitful talented and sweet.
hannah00725 7 months ago
`69 doesn't like this video´ :D This must have somekind of a meaning :DDDD
evemaid 7 months ago
Is this when they split up?
Grenade523 7 months ago
@Grenade523 no
CountryGirl5077 7 months ago
I heard this song on the radio today and I thought it was strange considering the song is old. Lil wayne took the beat and the rap is almost similar to eminem's. I wish lil wayne would have been more creative and made the song more his.
colorfulpride 7 months ago
Dear Anne (stan Part 2 ) Lil Wayne
Floridatillidie 7 months ago 2
30 minutes, alat of our lives.
SailorSpecialisist 7 months ago
she is so cute i would fuck her
Jemcash 7 months ago 2
like i said on the english version of this song.. Weezy didnt make it better or worse, he made it work; its not like he went spittin 30 min that u could say Dear Anne is better or worse.. totally CRACK NEW song n that it gots a part of 30 min in just pulled it all togetha.. so stfu all ya haterzzzzz go find soin better to do :]
asiuLek891 7 months ago
i heard my brother playing this song with lil wayne then i was searching up tatu and 30 min came up and i realized a part of this was in dear anne it was a kewl i love this song and dear anne by lil wayne love them both
fresherthanthat6 7 months ago
ANNE (L)
y que os jodan a todos subnormales, putos incultos de mierda .
SoyBelenxD 7 months ago
You guys are fucking stupid if you think Wayne took this song. The producer Swizz Beats took the sample from this song and it it into a beat. He wanted Eminem to make a new version of Stan, but he denied. Wayne hopped on the beat and that's the story. Btw he made it much better :)
Anne
xthomsenx 7 months ago 3
Type in Emotional Beat (instrumental) and you'll find a beat sampling this and it is million times better then wayne's version
LeoDopeland 7 months ago
lil wayne jumped on this track and hit you haters with that wayne train
specisstillwedie 7 months ago
Lil Wayne's "Dear Anne" brought me here
BossPlayaa91 7 months ago
why the fuck did lil wayne ruin another perfectly good song!!!!!
SharazProductions 7 months ago 65
@SharazProductions shut the fuck up really
9coolio9 7 months ago
@9coolio9 ok whatever you say stan, wait i mean anne!!!!
SharazProductions 7 months ago
@SharazProductions dear anne's beat is masterful in my opinion though it does justice to this song
naciremagangster 7 months ago
@SharazProductions Lil Wayne??
Wtf is it called!?!
booshbabe55 7 months ago
@booshbabe55 its dear anne
dnkmerman 7 months ago
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vannah2000 7 months ago
@booshbabe55 its called "anne"....it is supposed to be the stan part 2...stan (by eminem) was one of the greatest rap songs in my opinion & it had an original chorus...lil wayne made a mediocre version sampling this song...
SharazProductions 7 months ago
@SharazProductions Yeah, I heard it.. I personally hate it!
booshbabe55 7 months ago
@booshbabe55 agreed
SharazProductions 7 months ago
@SharazProductions lil wayne didnt ruin shit he just used the beat of the song. you dont hear him singing these song do you???
mrtiger307 6 months ago