It seems to me Kelly can deliver better on the lower notes. Carlos, when he comes down, sounds raspier but when Kelly does the low-middle range notes he puts a fucktonne of power into them.
Does any of you can recommend me more bands/songs like this? I mean, really heavy guitar sound with high pitched vocals.
I'm asking because I love high pitched vocals but , in my opinion, most bands in this category have a "thin... happy" guitar sound and this is no good to my ears. I hope you understood me.
Symphony X is what you are describing. Dream Theater also has some older albums that are pretty good that are not as much in the neoclassical genre, but still have vocals with a high range and some awesome guitar work. I don't particularly care for anything Dream Theater has done over the last decade though.
@Blodies Here are some bands I would recommend : Arch/Matheos, Symphony X, Eumeria, Pyramaze (1st two albums with Lance King on vocals), Anubis Gate, Lost in Thought, Redemption, Seventh Wonder, Circus Maximus, Kamelot, Jacob's Dream, Aspera (now called Above Symmetry), and Serenity I hope this was helpful in your quest for new music
Carlos is cool, but Kelly sounds even more intense, has an awesome vibrato (always a plus for me), and has a more operatic delivery on the chorus. Love his vocals on Riders too.
This album is epic, it's a shame they only ever made the one :(
does it matter which singer is better or if its all about Rusty Cooley, Kelly and Carlos are both amazing singers and every musician is as good as theyre gonna get, either way the band is fucking awesome, their music kicks ass so just enjoy them and keep supporting metal.
Are you all seriously just going to overlook the fact that rusty cooley is one of the best guitar players ever? Is that really so un-important? tch, whatever...
@kiljaeden2222 kelly has growled in beyond twilight skits, but that damages your voice, and doesnt take any talent. i can teach anyone how to growl better than the average death metal band in a minute flat.
also carlos frys his voice, which gives a less acurate not but higher pitch, so if we are going on whos a better vocalist? kelly, hands down.
I prefer Kelly over Carlos. Sure, Kelly doesn't sound as ''sharp'' as Carlos, but he can hold notes for a longer amount of time and sounds more convinced during the chorus. They both rule though. Too bad Outworld have split up.
Actually, to be a nonconforming dick, this isn't power metal. Close, but this is progressive metal. The two are almost identical, despite some arguments.
Carlos reminds me halford for the ability to switch high falsetto (not head voice).
I have to say Kelly is more accurate in head voice and technically superior. Carlos though seemed to be much better live, very powerful! It's a shame they disbanded.
@BZero9404 Kelly is better,why?He nails the not without stoping,unlike carlos,without a single break,and sustains it,what Carlos can't do it because hs passage/bridge connection isn't as good as kelly's.
Both fantastic versions, both technically brilliant vocalists without a doubt. I prefer Carlos though, but that may be due to the mix, this mix is a lot "wetter" and for me that ruins the vocal sound.
Where can i get the album with Carlos singing?
AndersonWave17 3 weeks ago
It seems to me Kelly can deliver better on the lower notes. Carlos, when he comes down, sounds raspier but when Kelly does the low-middle range notes he puts a fucktonne of power into them.
2603212 4 weeks ago
Does any of you can recommend me more bands/songs like this? I mean, really heavy guitar sound with high pitched vocals.
I'm asking because I love high pitched vocals but , in my opinion, most bands in this category have a "thin... happy" guitar sound and this is no good to my ears. I hope you understood me.
Regards!
Blodies 5 months ago
@Blodies
Symphony X is what you are describing. Dream Theater also has some older albums that are pretty good that are not as much in the neoclassical genre, but still have vocals with a high range and some awesome guitar work. I don't particularly care for anything Dream Theater has done over the last decade though.
juggletrouble 5 months ago
@Blodies Here are some bands I would recommend : Arch/Matheos, Symphony X, Eumeria, Pyramaze (1st two albums with Lance King on vocals), Anubis Gate, Lost in Thought, Redemption, Seventh Wonder, Circus Maximus, Kamelot, Jacob's Dream, Aspera (now called Above Symmetry), and Serenity I hope this was helpful in your quest for new music
chewypc 1 month ago
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1985gss 5 months ago
Carlos sounds like a man.... Kelly sounds like a little girl....
HongKongKing666 5 months ago
@HongKongKing666 Kelly sounds inhuman and EVIL! Carlos sounds like mexican.
MrZokzo 5 months ago 11
@MrZokzo Kelly= creepy little girl.... Carlos= Angry gun toting mexican who screams at everything
HongKongKing666 5 months ago 2
@HongKongKing666 that is exactly what i think
smufmigeifmig 2 months ago
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1985gss 6 months ago
@1985gss Except the death vocals at the end on Zema's version are gone here..
DeathBringer769 5 months ago
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1985gss 6 months ago
@1985gss Well Kelly Carpenter is on the studio album, and this is the studio track.
weruh3 6 months ago
Kelly is much better.
kiljaeden2222 6 months ago 3
Carlos is cool, but Kelly sounds even more intense, has an awesome vibrato (always a plus for me), and has a more operatic delivery on the chorus. Love his vocals on Riders too.
This album is epic, it's a shame they only ever made the one :(
UnholyMessiah555 8 months ago 3
With Kelly on vocals this song have gained a soul =) I can feel the wrath, the pain, the power!!
JackOfBlades 9 months ago 2
This band could have done so much. I wish they would have stayed together.
metropolisimages 9 months ago
Between the replacement of Kelly and the "concentration camp" bullshit, this band REALLY let me down
panzerdiv 9 months ago
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does it matter which singer is better or if its all about Rusty Cooley, Kelly and Carlos are both amazing singers and every musician is as good as theyre gonna get, either way the band is fucking awesome, their music kicks ass so just enjoy them and keep supporting metal.
ninjajuice3000 10 months ago
Why isn't Carlos singing? What was he doing jacking his little wenis? LOL
TerrorcausT 1 year ago
C'mon! carlos is much better!!!
renatxow 1 year ago
Carlos is great! he can scream really well.. but its all.. just scream..
but Kelly.. well... Kelly sing with his soul! and this is priceless...
saying that Carlos is better is the same that says things like: Harry Potter is better than Lord Of The Rings =)
JackOfBlades 1 year ago 3
@JackOfBlades Thats preposterous. Lord of The Rings is 10x better than Harry Potter :) lol
BoyMeetsDrum 1 year ago 2
Whoever says Zema is better than Kelly is either:
-wasted
-idiotic.
Honestly.
phahq 1 year ago 5
who gives a shit about the singer, this is all about Rusty Cooley!!!
element5333 1 year ago 3
@element5333 LOL what?
Seriously,you gotta be damn deaf if you care about cooley instead of kelly/zema
sobeto28 1 year ago
WWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE.
angiethenative 1 year ago
Are you all seriously just going to overlook the fact that rusty cooley is one of the best guitar players ever? Is that really so un-important? tch, whatever...
travesfenriswolf 1 year ago
Both Kelly and Carlos are great vocalists, but I like Kelly Sundown a little better.
MetalD94 1 year ago 3
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kiljaeden2222 1 year ago
@kiljaeden2222 kelly has growled in beyond twilight skits, but that damages your voice, and doesnt take any talent. i can teach anyone how to growl better than the average death metal band in a minute flat.
also carlos frys his voice, which gives a less acurate not but higher pitch, so if we are going on whos a better vocalist? kelly, hands down.
Ensirum 1 year ago
Kelly's vocal is much more agressive!
Heavynprog1 1 year ago 3
Carlos Zema sucks. Carpenter was the real deal. He could ACTUALLY hit notes, not try to and fail hideously like Zema.
hespenria 1 year ago
Carlos was the worst thing to happen to the band, thats why their broken up now. Kelly was it, he was the band.
Galgamemnon 1 year ago 3
Both versions are good, but I like Carlos' growls at the end. Nice touch.
ScreaminSavior 1 year ago
@ScreaminSavior exactly
foxgentlemaenner 1 year ago
Greatest fucking song ever!
xxxhentaikingxxx 1 year ago
Songs with these over the top vocals give me so much energy. Makes me want to sing as loud as possible too. :-)
Even the emotional (yes!) chorus: NOW HEAR MY WAAAR-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARCRYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! sounds sick. Insane stuff.
calastiur 1 year ago 2
@calastiur tricky to decide which layer you want to sing
Huzzawful 1 year ago
daamn.. i dont like the vocals at allat 2:24 its okay but mostly its waaay too high
Erakko93 1 year ago
I prefer Kelly over Carlos. Sure, Kelly doesn't sound as ''sharp'' as Carlos, but he can hold notes for a longer amount of time and sounds more convinced during the chorus. They both rule though. Too bad Outworld have split up.
calastiur 1 year ago 4
does anyone know if he's playing this with an 8 string or a 7-string tuned down a half step? cuz the lowest tone i hear is a B flat
thegr8HarV 1 year ago
@thegr8HarV
7-string flat
ESP4thaWin 1 year ago
Wow, I'm lucky to have discovered this band :)
Arachnidius 1 year ago
Holy shit!!! Insane vocals
metaldrummer185 1 year ago
the singer kind of sounds like Jim Gillette
hnrgr10 2 years ago
@hnrgr10 yeahh youre right
metalbohne 2 years ago
Vocals are amazing In this song. Its like the second coming of Iron Maiden.
EnemyUnbound 2 years ago
That singer makes my balls shrink....
majav15mg 2 years ago 2
Im not a bass fan, but u gotta love it at 2:39
VH5150VH 2 years ago
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TYLERBECKER94 2 years ago
power metal + Prog =
SEX
10dthompson60 2 years ago
@10dthompson60 WWHHAATT!!!!!!
metalbohne 2 years ago
@metalbohne power metal with time signature changes and complex riffs and solos, an amazing combination
10dthompson60 1 year ago
Zema is the best singer on this earth. no doubt.
krykkeroev 2 years ago 2
I like Carlos Zema better...
Fernan666PRELTATITO 2 years ago 5
sexy band
mmaiden666 2 years ago
ilove this band, power metal ftw
ItzR3zR4pt0r 2 years ago
Actually, to be a nonconforming dick, this isn't power metal. Close, but this is progressive metal. The two are almost identical, despite some arguments.
collegegoer45 2 years ago
Falsetto FTW.
IronGuitarist 2 years ago 5
Ah. This guy is good and all, but he's too high pitched.... Zema sounds better in my opinion. But a very good job for Kelly.
TheDistanceBetween 2 years ago 3
too high pitched? NEVER haha
Militarized 2 years ago 3
This is the true version, its a damn shame kelly had to leave the band, after carlos joined the whole thing went to crap
Galgamemnon 2 years ago
Carlos reminds me halford for the ability to switch high falsetto (not head voice).
I have to say Kelly is more accurate in head voice and technically superior. Carlos though seemed to be much better live, very powerful! It's a shame they disbanded.
MRZEDDA 2 years ago
but its is carlos zema
jonfensu 2 years ago
No it isn't.
KingKoon 2 years ago
i think Carlos is better, personally. kelly's great, but NOBODY hits that first note like Carlos
BZero9404 2 years ago 18
Not just the note, but also how he ends the scream. Whaaoo-WHAO.
Insane
MasterPamer 2 years ago 14
@BZero9404 Wrong! Even ask Rusty himself.
MortaniusTaijou 1 year ago
@BZero9404 Yeah, but Carlos fucks up the chorus. His "walk" sounds REALLY weird. And he doesn't extend "warcry" like Kelly.
LessthanJake14 1 year ago
@BZero9404
Note schmote. Show me Zema doing vibratos in falsetto like Kelly.
phahq 1 year ago 3
@BZero9404 you must listen "city of the death" carlos can`t hit the notes correctly, but kelly can easily
maldone6 10 months ago
@maldone6 alright I will :) thanks
BZero9404 10 months ago
@BZero9404 Kelly is better,why?He nails the not without stoping,unlike carlos,without a single break,and sustains it,what Carlos can't do it because hs passage/bridge connection isn't as good as kelly's.
He's a cool singer though.
sobeto28 5 months ago 2
i like kelly alot more. he reminds me more of matt barlow, ripper and rob halford. and those are a few of my all time favorite singers
captain0redbeard 2 years ago
My favorite Outworld song!
xXSmashingTheAntiuXx 2 years ago 3
Kelly ROCKS!!!!
z6kz 2 years ago 2
some one please hep me decide on whos better. Carlos or Kelly???
wallawalla83 2 years ago
Can't tell you dude, they're both awesome !!
bloodpollution 2 years ago
i dont know whose the better singer, but rusty cooley is fucking amazing is all i know
generosos87 2 years ago 3
they both are great. i would go with carlos though. without a doubt.
bhothemetallhead 2 years ago
Carlos is better, imo. But not that much.
Steve128967 2 years ago
YOu got to hear him in person. I hung out with Carlos in person and he is a badass vocalist(he said I was a badass guitarist as well)
Mandilore 2 years ago
i have to admit this is better than carlos.
MRZEDDA 2 years ago
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MRZEDDA 2 years ago
I love this Song. But Carlos Zema is (I think so) a bit better
NevermindXY 2 years ago 2
Both fantastic versions, both technically brilliant vocalists without a doubt. I prefer Carlos though, but that may be due to the mix, this mix is a lot "wetter" and for me that ruins the vocal sound.
Still awesome though!
thevengey 2 years ago
It doesn't sound like Carlos. Kelly sounds more evil.. Carlos sounds more powerful. They both are great!
Darkwing74 2 years ago
this sounds like carlos
fivestringbassplayr 2 years ago
Kelly is great but the version with Carlos is better but still a great song nonetheless!!!!
RageAgainstTheDisco 2 years ago 2
Amazing vocalist!!!!!
tetragramaton1 2 years ago
Fucking epic vocals ZOMFG!!!
Vebbynator 3 years ago 2