Of course, since in USA we live in a fascist propeganda state populated by ignorant bigots, such comparison is liable to be correct, and thus its inevitability should not be surprising.
so according to this rule, bill o'reilly has never won an argument. as soon as bill starts speaking over his guests and pointing his hand out of frustration you know theres a kkk/nazi reference.
There was an older rule a friend of mine told me about to do with school boys having a debate... It's the same rule, just... with school boys in an all boys school. Mind you, it can't be that old... like, it can only really be as old as, you know, 1939... But, anyway, does anyone else know what I'm talking about?
The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix.
Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.
@Krolblach actually they were applauding the long sock, not the person wearing the long sock. It had previously come up in the episode that Rob Brydon was a big fan of the long sock :)
As an argument grows longer the probability of anything and everything being mentioned is increased. If the argument were to continue ad infinitum then by definition the probability of all things being mentioned will be one.
What if your responding to an obvious racist that has swastikas all over there YouTube channel? Which I have seen. Have I lost debates in the first line when I say how abhorrent racism is and use the obvious connections to that fascist organisation? I'm to frightened to name it now, although, does that rule count when you ask a question?
@speebyda Being that the argument was about the use of swastikas I would say that you are aloud to in that case, by the way, we must remember that the Swastika is actually Roman.
@viciouswolf1111 well you are sort of right there. but I am pretty sure the swastika was outright egyptian, it was a hyroglyph. the influences from greece and rome were mainly in architecture, engineering and religion.
@stfanani The "other half from Greece part was for a laugh" by the way, but If you go to the Roman ruins in Pompeii you shall see that the Romans stole the sign of the swastika for their tile architecture. By the way, when you say "from greece and 'rome'" what do you mean, are we not talking about the Romans taking from Greece and Egypt.
@stfanani the swastika is a symbol from many ancient civilisations, but i believe the earliest example is indian. In indian culture i believe it is a sign of luck
@TheJamieBellinger Yep, this is just bs xD though it might be MORE LIKELY. But yeah, give a man a mask and he will show his true colors, no better place to debate.
Oh, isn't it obvious? Hitler represents the height of inflexibility of thought, right?
So, if an argument is, essentially, two people striving to communicate their perspective to each-other, and neither is willing to compromise, they will gradually become increasingly inflexible in their positions.
So, basically, there really IS a little nazism in all of us.
I really like Godwin's Law, but there are some instances where a Nazi comparison is justified. For example, the EDL came from the BNP, which was an offshoot of the National Front, which was founded by members of the British Order of Fascists, which was essentially a British Nazi party. It is not unreasonable to bring up the Nazi histories of such groups when arguing about the BNP and EDL.
Well obviously, since there is a probability that Nazi's will be mentioned, as the argument goes on longer, there is the same probability spread over a longer period therefore it is on average more likely. If something goes on for an infinite amount of time, then there is a certain probability that everything will happen, an infinite number of times.
I think, at least partly, the attractiveness of "Godwin's law" (granted it may be somewhat accurate) is premised on the subconscious associations one makes with concepts like "God" and "Win". Namely that of "success", "authority", etc... Just a hunch though
I was once called a nazi in an internet argument (I say argument - it was made up of about five comments in total), and I only wish I'd known of Godwin's law at the time - would have shoved it in that stupid bitch's face.
I feel like bringing up Hitler when it comes to cultural attitude towards minorities, or doing what one's government orders and the morality of law, is a valid invocation of Hitler/Nazis.
I think Hitler and the Nazis are used because it's the only unequivocally "bad" group of people and ideology that everyone agrees on, and therefore is a good thing to use in analogy.
@Nameless164 And the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler.
Like Hitler, bush depends on an axis of collaborative allies, which he describes as a �coalition of the willing,� in order to give the impression of a broad popular alliance. These allies include the U.K. as compared to Mussolini�s Italy, and Spain and Bulgaria, as compared to, well, Spain and Bulgaria, both of which were aligned with Germany during the thirties and World War II.
Like Hitler, Bush continues to pursue war without cutting back on the peacetime economy. Additional to unprecedented low interest rates bestowed by the Federal Reserve, he has actually cut federal taxes twice by substantial amounts, especially for the top one percent of U.S. taxpayers, while conducting an expensive invasion and an even more expensive occupation of a hostile nation.
Like Hitler, Bush takes pride in his status as a �War President,� and his global ambition makes him perhaps the most dangerous president in our nation�s history, a �rogue� chief executive capable of waging any number of illegal preemptive wars. He fully acknowledges his willingness to engage in wars of �choice� as well as wars of necessity. Sooner or later this choice will oblige universal conscription as well as a full-scale war economy.
Like Hitler, Bush and his cohorts emphasize the ruthlessness of their enemies in order to justify their own. Just as Hitler cited the threat of communist violence to justify even greater violence on the part of Germany, the bush team justified the invasion of Iraq by emphasizing Hussein�s crimes against humanity over the past twenty-five years. However, these crimes were for the most part committed when Iraq was a client-ally of the U.S.
Like Hitler, Bush incessantly shifted his arguments to justify invading Iraq--from Iraq�s WMD threat to the elimination of Saddam Hussein, to his supposed Al Qaeda connection, to the creation of Iraqi democracy in the Middle East as a model for neighboring states, and back again to the WMD threat. As soon as one excuse for the war was challenged, Bush advanced to another, but only to shift back again at another time.
Like Hitler, Bush repeats lies often enough that they come to be accepted as the truth. Bush and his spokesmen argued, for example, that they had taken every measure possible to avoid war, than an invasion of Iraq would diminish (not intensify) the terrorist threat against the U.S., that Iraq was linked with Al Qaeda, and that nothing whatsoever had been achieved by U.N. inspectors to warrant the postponement of U.S. invasion plans. All of this was false.
Like Hitler, Bush scraps international treaties, most notably the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, the Biological Weapons Convention, the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, the Convention on the Prohibition of Land Mines, the Chemical Weapons Convention, the Kyoto Global Warming Accord, and the International Criminal Court.
Like Hitler, Bush quickly makes and breaks diplomatic ties, and he offers generous promises that he soon abandons, as in the cases of Mexico, Russia, Afghanistan, and even New York City. The same goes for U.S. domestic programs. Once Bush was elected, many leaders of these programs learned to dread his making any kind of an appearance to praise their success, since this was almost inevitably followed by severe cuts in their budgets.
Like Hitler, Bush promotes a future world order that guarantees his own nation�s hegemonic supremacy rather than cooperative harmony under the authority of the United Nations (or League of Nations).
Like Hitler, Bush displays great populist enthusiasm in his patriotic speeches, but primarily serves wealthy investors who subsidize his election campaigns and share with him their comfortable lifestyle.
Like Hitler, Bush envisages our nation�s unique historic destiny almost as a religious cause sanctioned by God. Just as Hitler did for Germany, he takes pride in his �providential� role in spreading his version of Americanism throughout the entire world.
Like Hitler, Bush has increased his popularity with conservative voters by mounting an aggressive public relations campaign against foreign enemies. Just as Hitler cited international communism to justify Germany�s military buildup, Bush has used Al Qaeda and the so-called Axis of Evil to justify our current military buildup. Paradoxically none of the nations in this axis--Iraq, Iran and North Korea--have had anything to do with each other.
Like Hitler, President Bush was not elected by a majority, but was forced to engage in political maneuvering in order to gain office.
Like Hitler, Bush began to curtail civil liberties in response to a well-publicized disaster, in Hitler�s case the Reichstag fire, in Bush�s case the 9-11 catastrophe.
Like Hitler, Bush went on to pursue a reckless foreign policy without the mandate of the electorate and despite the opposition of most foreign nations.
The thing is, the Hitler comparisons came about originally in political discussions about President Bush and his administration. The thing is, Bush and his administration were actually implementing many of Hitler's political tactics. Godwin's law came about as a way to distract people from the problems Bush was causing. Well now with Bush's efforts the world is in a tail spin. Perhaps we should have listened more to Bush's critics back then.
@thehomelessguy Hitler didn't invent said political tactics, so there is no reason to invoke the name when arguing against it. If you can't make a logical argument against something without making such a wrongheaded comparison, then you shouldn't be arguing at all. It adds nothing to the discussion and only serves to distract.
@NekoSOM Actually Hitler did either invent or invoke those political tactics, and is known historically for said tactics. Revisionists like you only make the world a worse place.
I honestly was expecting him to say "the longer an internet argument goes on, the higher the likelyhood of it turning into an argument about religion gets."
This is utter crap. Godwin's law states that the debate will eventually contain a reference to Hitler or his regime but to extend this, as not originally contained in the law, to say that the one who makes that analogy is therefore the loser or the debate must end at that point is no more intellectually sound than the suggestion that the one who smelt it dealt it.
well idk about Hitler, but the usual thing is to start insulting each other's country and all that and of course remember WWII, who won it etc :) I personally see a lot of Russia vs USA flame wars because I watch many Russia-related videos :) Technology often comes up, i.e. "our tanks are better than your tanks" etc.
@darkhawk1979 Yes, but the law also states that the argument is deemed over as soon as Hitler or Naziism is mentioned. That's what makes it different but not really sort of not maybe possibly probably not who knows.
@InFlam3sW3Trust Spot on, but I was just pointing out that part of the law is a redundant statement. You mentioned Nazism and Hitler so any argument we may have is already over lol!
@darkhawk1979 Approaches, surely. The longer any discussion is the chances of any particular thing happening gets more likely, because more things can happen in longer discussions, this must move the probability away from zero towards one. But the chances of a buffalo whistling Dixie in a pub discussion about West Ham always stays rather close to zero even if its likelihood does necessarily increase infinitesimally with every week that passes.
@MartinJWillett The only people who compare others to Hitler, are ones who no longer have any valid points to counter argue with. They have essentially lost because all they can come up with at that point is a completely unrelated attack on the other person's character. They've lost because at that point they've shown their lack of intelligence and tact and people like that aren't even worth wasting any more time on. That's why Godwin's Law is such a valid and astute observation.
@marzi444 That is the crystallized classic bollocks I have been railing against. If people act like Hitler you can and should compare them to Hitler regardless of how long you have been discussing a particular subject and if the similarity is valid then so too is your point. It is absurd to pretend that Nazis, arrogant people, undemocratic manipulators and totalitarians don't exist! They do and it is not only right but our duty to point them out.
Arguments of any form follow the same concept, after a certain amount of time: It slowly becomes more like a garden-themed costume contest, because it stops being a competition about who did the best, and more like a mass of giant tools.
@ASTEagle i·ro·ny1 [ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-] Show IPA
noun, plural -nies. (especially in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., especially as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
I have a rule for any argument, online or offline: Never let it go too long, otherwise you feel more and more like an idiot as time goes on.
I use this analogy: Long arguments are like garden-themed costume contests, because it doesn't matter who wins or loses, and it doesn't matter that the winner gets a lot of stuff, everyone still looked like a tool for participating.
I have my own law : if a vid has a lot of views and comments, the probability of a dicksplash posting a "thumbs up" approaches one. If you don't agree you're all as evil as Hitler!
Ok, finally I understand Godwin's law. I understood the first part where using the hitler analogy is usually inappropriate, but the probability didn't quite make sense. Can Godwin's law also be adapted? I noticed conservatives don't ALWAYS" say Hitler. Sometimes they throw in a Stalin, or a Mao Tse-Tung, or a Pol Pot, usually when discussing atheism. Probably because they know Hitler was a Christian. Ohhh damn there I go with Godwin's law ;-)
well you 'hmming hmme1r' it just shows that your a 'hmming' 'hmmer!' and all the other 'hmms!' have been 'hmming' with there own 'hmmen' for the last 'hmm!' why don't you 'hmmen hmm hmm!'
I think Godwin is a fuckhead. When people talk about world issues, it's quite natural to reference Hitler or the Nazis. What bigger influence has anything had on our lives (yes, even today) than the Second World War? And when people reference Hitler or the Nazis and simply mean "intollerant like the Nazis," "hateful like the Nazis," etc., it is utterly idiotic of the listener not to make the inference.
Oh, duh...you said it was such a bad day you wouldn't be surprised if the sky fell?!?
The two top comments might be the greatest top comments in the history of youtube, and possibly the internet. Also, they violate Godwin's law.
gamegloss 23 hours ago
@gamegloss How do they violate it? Does it state something besides that the probability will approach 1?
Kabitu1 18 hours ago
@gamegloss You can read them yourself.
gamegloss 18 hours ago
Of course, since in USA we live in a fascist propeganda state populated by ignorant bigots, such comparison is liable to be correct, and thus its inevitability should not be surprising.
TOMHYLE88 3 days ago 2
I've heard that Hitler was against the use of nazi analogies in online discussions!
Laseranders 1 week ago
The new Godwin's law is crying troll. I fail at arguing, ergo, you are a troll.
SuperQweertyuiop 1 week ago
Wait a second... The running gag in this episode is "Don't Mention the War".
And they just talked about nazis...
9breakerODST 1 week ago
@9breakerODST
Well, the Nazis still existed before the war actually started.
IAmCaptainMarvel 1 week ago
You know how Hitler died...
He took an arrow in the knee
So: ------KNEE---->
MrLo0lz 2 weeks ago
@MrLo0lz he was protected by his socks
irfan121996 2 weeks ago
so according to this rule, bill o'reilly has never won an argument. as soon as bill starts speaking over his guests and pointing his hand out of frustration you know theres a kkk/nazi reference.
DanSnyder101 3 weeks ago
There was an older rule a friend of mine told me about to do with school boys having a debate... It's the same rule, just... with school boys in an all boys school. Mind you, it can't be that old... like, it can only really be as old as, you know, 1939... But, anyway, does anyone else know what I'm talking about?
cpmckeown 4 weeks ago
Or nowadays, the probability of "some kind of projectile in a mid leg joint" being mentioned also approaches one.
Chunmeista 1 month ago
what would happen is that the ennemy is likely to be atrue and you would probably lose
mofunzonecom 1 month ago
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toolworks 1 month ago
The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix.
Until the Nazis used this symbol, the swastika was used by many cultures throughout the past 3,000 years to represent life, sun, power, strength, and good luck.
Google is a Nazi propaganda machine :D
COEXISTential 1 month ago
@COEXISTential end of discussion
Shift4chizzle 1 month ago
@Shift4chizzle löl
COEXISTential 1 month ago
The nazis made laws and laughed at talk shows
ThatsWhatTheManWants 1 month ago
Now we know there is a TV program where a whole room of people will applaud a picture of Hitler...
Krolblach 1 month ago
@Krolblach actually they were applauding the long sock, not the person wearing the long sock. It had previously come up in the episode that Rob Brydon was a big fan of the long sock :)
Ribbo 2 weeks ago
As an argument grows longer the probability of anything and everything being mentioned is increased. If the argument were to continue ad infinitum then by definition the probability of all things being mentioned will be one.
CullTheLivingFlower 1 month ago
arguements on the internet is like the special olympics. even if you win your still retarded.
maccaaccam99 1 month ago
@maccaaccam99 You evil Nazi! Oh wait...
Krolblach 1 month ago
GODWIN RULES, OK.
justamick1 1 month ago
Ahh, but Hitler wouldn't have said that
happyblackness 1 month ago
Really is a pointless law.
TheDefiantBadger 1 month ago
@TheDefiantBadger But a true one, who has not seen the thread where someone actually says something as silly as that.
viciouswolf1111 1 month ago
@viciouswolf1111 A lot of people I'd wager.
TheDefiantBadger 1 month ago
What if your responding to an obvious racist that has swastikas all over there YouTube channel? Which I have seen. Have I lost debates in the first line when I say how abhorrent racism is and use the obvious connections to that fascist organisation? I'm to frightened to name it now, although, does that rule count when you ask a question?
speebyda 1 month ago
@speebyda Being that the argument was about the use of swastikas I would say that you are aloud to in that case, by the way, we must remember that the Swastika is actually Roman.
viciouswolf1111 1 month ago
@viciouswolf1111 the swastika is actually egyptian
stfanani 1 month ago
@stfanani And of course half of Roman creations were stolen from Egypt, and the other half from Greece. :D
viciouswolf1111 1 month ago
@viciouswolf1111 well you are sort of right there. but I am pretty sure the swastika was outright egyptian, it was a hyroglyph. the influences from greece and rome were mainly in architecture, engineering and religion.
stfanani 1 month ago
@stfanani The "other half from Greece part was for a laugh" by the way, but If you go to the Roman ruins in Pompeii you shall see that the Romans stole the sign of the swastika for their tile architecture. By the way, when you say "from greece and 'rome'" what do you mean, are we not talking about the Romans taking from Greece and Egypt.
viciouswolf1111 1 month ago
@stfanani the swastika is a symbol from many ancient civilisations, but i believe the earliest example is indian. In indian culture i believe it is a sign of luck
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I'm sorry, but I think someone really should point this out.
The longer a thread goes on, the probability that ANYTHING will be mentioned approaches 1.
I'm really quite confused as to why no one mentions it. The statistics behind is about as obvious as it gets.
naryanr 1 month ago
@TheJamieBellinger Yep, this is just bs xD though it might be MORE LIKELY. But yeah, give a man a mask and he will show his true colors, no better place to debate.
Etrajbe 1 month ago
Oh, isn't it obvious? Hitler represents the height of inflexibility of thought, right?
So, if an argument is, essentially, two people striving to communicate their perspective to each-other, and neither is willing to compromise, they will gradually become increasingly inflexible in their positions.
So, basically, there really IS a little nazism in all of us.
Jcolinsol 1 month ago
hitler killed millions of people but saved millions of foxes
pivotuser08 1 month ago
NAZI !!, just because i had to :)
MrLegionaire13 1 month ago
This is why atheists win so many arguments. God-botherers really want Hitler to have been an atheist and aren't shy about saying so.
snappycatchy 1 month ago
Discussions used to lead to a comparison with Hitler or the Nazi-Party, but then they took an arrow to the knee...
GregoryButs 2 months ago
A bunch of middle aged people talking about the internet... they should quit before they start to be honest.
soundslave 2 months ago
I really like Godwin's Law, but there are some instances where a Nazi comparison is justified. For example, the EDL came from the BNP, which was an offshoot of the National Front, which was founded by members of the British Order of Fascists, which was essentially a British Nazi party. It is not unreasonable to bring up the Nazi histories of such groups when arguing about the BNP and EDL.
procritic09 2 months ago
Well obviously, since there is a probability that Nazi's will be mentioned, as the argument goes on longer, there is the same probability spread over a longer period therefore it is on average more likely. If something goes on for an infinite amount of time, then there is a certain probability that everything will happen, an infinite number of times.
JoeJones3001 2 months ago
Hitler wasnt such a bad guy. After all, he did kill Hitler..
Kenshh0 2 months ago
I think, at least partly, the attractiveness of "Godwin's law" (granted it may be somewhat accurate) is premised on the subconscious associations one makes with concepts like "God" and "Win". Namely that of "success", "authority", etc... Just a hunch though
KayleRJEastcott 2 months ago
Well of course it's true. If any discussion goes on for long enough eventually any and every subject matter will come up.
limetang 2 months ago 2
I was once called a nazi in an internet argument (I say argument - it was made up of about five comments in total), and I only wish I'd known of Godwin's law at the time - would have shoved it in that stupid bitch's face.
seventhsheaven 2 months ago
I think they are right and if you disagree you're a fucking nazi!! LOL
gyqz 2 months ago
I feel like bringing up Hitler when it comes to cultural attitude towards minorities, or doing what one's government orders and the morality of law, is a valid invocation of Hitler/Nazis.
randomusername36 2 months ago
@randomusername36 as you should
Daleksaresupreme1 2 months ago
fine fine socks!
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Someones Blackberry go off at 0:01?
CaptainOvious123 3 months ago
@TheJamieBellinger True
smithhedgehog 3 months ago
God bless the fuhrer.
charliemctruth 3 months ago
@charliemctruth
Hail Mighty Fuhrer of ze Sausage People!
IWannaBeTheUser 3 months ago
everybody in the modern world secretly respects.the nazis
carpet691 3 months ago
@carpet691 doubt that very much
smithhedgehog 3 months ago
I think Hitler and the Nazis are used because it's the only unequivocally "bad" group of people and ideology that everyone agrees on, and therefore is a good thing to use in analogy.
ChristopherDone 3 months ago 3
am I alone in thinking Hitler was ahead of his time?
carpet691 3 months ago
@carpet691 Yes, he was a pre-internet troll.
TheCrazyTalkKid 3 months ago
@carpet691 No.
charliemctruth 3 months ago
That's something Hitler would have said...
WakingLife55 3 months ago
Say what you will about Hitler, he did kill Hitler.
N0nC0mprende 3 months ago 505
@N0nC0mprende But he also killed the guy who killed Hitler.. What a bastard.
Nameless164 2 months ago 168
@Nameless164 But he killed the guy who killed the guy who killed Hitler
deveaux77 2 months ago 5
@Nameless164 And the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler and the guy who killed Hitler killed the guy who killed Hitler.
Yes.
adgsTV 3 weeks ago
@Nameless164 that the most intelligent thing iv ever seen in a youtube comment you sir deserve a cookie.
myVIDdump 3 weeks ago
@Nameless164 you hurt my brain
breakinggreens 6 days ago
@breakinggreens That wasn't difficult, was it...
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@N0nC0mprende !!!! ಠ▃ಠ
brocklesnar97 5 days ago
Lovely socks...
rorrt 3 months ago
Well at least Hitler never argued on the internet
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Like Hitler, bush depends on an axis of collaborative allies, which he describes as a �coalition of the willing,� in order to give the impression of a broad popular alliance. These allies include the U.K. as compared to Mussolini�s Italy, and Spain and Bulgaria, as compared to, well, Spain and Bulgaria, both of which were aligned with Germany during the thirties and World War II.
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Like Hitler, Bush continues to pursue war without cutting back on the peacetime economy. Additional to unprecedented low interest rates bestowed by the Federal Reserve, he has actually cut federal taxes twice by substantial amounts, especially for the top one percent of U.S. taxpayers, while conducting an expensive invasion and an even more expensive occupation of a hostile nation.
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Like Hitler, Bush takes pride in his status as a �War President,� and his global ambition makes him perhaps the most dangerous president in our nation�s history, a �rogue� chief executive capable of waging any number of illegal preemptive wars. He fully acknowledges his willingness to engage in wars of �choice� as well as wars of necessity. Sooner or later this choice will oblige universal conscription as well as a full-scale war economy.
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Like Hitler, Bush and his cohorts emphasize the ruthlessness of their enemies in order to justify their own. Just as Hitler cited the threat of communist violence to justify even greater violence on the part of Germany, the bush team justified the invasion of Iraq by emphasizing Hussein�s crimes against humanity over the past twenty-five years. However, these crimes were for the most part committed when Iraq was a client-ally of the U.S.
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Like Hitler, Bush incessantly shifted his arguments to justify invading Iraq--from Iraq�s WMD threat to the elimination of Saddam Hussein, to his supposed Al Qaeda connection, to the creation of Iraqi democracy in the Middle East as a model for neighboring states, and back again to the WMD threat. As soon as one excuse for the war was challenged, Bush advanced to another, but only to shift back again at another time.
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Like Hitler, Bush repeats lies often enough that they come to be accepted as the truth. Bush and his spokesmen argued, for example, that they had taken every measure possible to avoid war, than an invasion of Iraq would diminish (not intensify) the terrorist threat against the U.S., that Iraq was linked with Al Qaeda, and that nothing whatsoever had been achieved by U.N. inspectors to warrant the postponement of U.S. invasion plans. All of this was false.
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Like Hitler, Bush scraps international treaties, most notably the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, the Biological Weapons Convention, the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, the Convention on the Prohibition of Land Mines, the Chemical Weapons Convention, the Kyoto Global Warming Accord, and the International Criminal Court.
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Like Hitler, Bush quickly makes and breaks diplomatic ties, and he offers generous promises that he soon abandons, as in the cases of Mexico, Russia, Afghanistan, and even New York City. The same goes for U.S. domestic programs. Once Bush was elected, many leaders of these programs learned to dread his making any kind of an appearance to praise their success, since this was almost inevitably followed by severe cuts in their budgets.
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Like Hitler, Bush promotes a future world order that guarantees his own nation�s hegemonic supremacy rather than cooperative harmony under the authority of the United Nations (or League of Nations).
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Like Hitler, Bush displays great populist enthusiasm in his patriotic speeches, but primarily serves wealthy investors who subsidize his election campaigns and share with him their comfortable lifestyle.
Like Hitler, Bush envisages our nation�s unique historic destiny almost as a religious cause sanctioned by God. Just as Hitler did for Germany, he takes pride in his �providential� role in spreading his version of Americanism throughout the entire world.
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Like Hitler, Bush has increased his popularity with conservative voters by mounting an aggressive public relations campaign against foreign enemies. Just as Hitler cited international communism to justify Germany�s military buildup, Bush has used Al Qaeda and the so-called Axis of Evil to justify our current military buildup. Paradoxically none of the nations in this axis--Iraq, Iran and North Korea--have had anything to do with each other.
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Like Hitler, President Bush was not elected by a majority, but was forced to engage in political maneuvering in order to gain office.
Like Hitler, Bush began to curtail civil liberties in response to a well-publicized disaster, in Hitler�s case the Reichstag fire, in Bush�s case the 9-11 catastrophe.
Like Hitler, Bush went on to pursue a reckless foreign policy without the mandate of the electorate and despite the opposition of most foreign nations.
thehomelessguy 4 months ago
Nazi.
I just lost the game.
bobrobrules 4 months ago
america sucks
CopyriteInfringement 4 months ago
if discussing nazis then two camels and a tiny car will end the discussion
psnLoneWulf14 4 months ago
The thing is, the Hitler comparisons came about originally in political discussions about President Bush and his administration. The thing is, Bush and his administration were actually implementing many of Hitler's political tactics. Godwin's law came about as a way to distract people from the problems Bush was causing. Well now with Bush's efforts the world is in a tail spin. Perhaps we should have listened more to Bush's critics back then.
thehomelessguy 4 months ago
@thehomelessguy Hitler didn't invent said political tactics, so there is no reason to invoke the name when arguing against it. If you can't make a logical argument against something without making such a wrongheaded comparison, then you shouldn't be arguing at all. It adds nothing to the discussion and only serves to distract.
NekoSOM 4 months ago
@NekoSOM Actually Hitler did either invent or invoke those political tactics, and is known historically for said tactics. Revisionists like you only make the world a worse place.
thehomelessguy 4 months ago
Even on here people are trying to start a Godwin's Law argument.
squamish4244 4 months ago
Hitler: Hated fox hunter, killed 6million Jews.
No irony what-so-ever.
SeanTheOriginal 4 months ago
@SeanTheOriginal Sounds like he was a modern day animal rights activist. "Save the whales, fuck the people".
diurdi 4 months ago
Godwin is the master troll!
realGeorgelucas18563 4 months ago
I honestly was expecting him to say "the longer an internet argument goes on, the higher the likelyhood of it turning into an argument about religion gets."
haolihfaioefh 4 months ago 104
@haolihfaioefh Maybe that's Godwin's second rule of internet arguments?
HairyHariyama 4 months ago
hitler
kolasis91 4 months ago
was i the only one feeling slightly flustered and out of breath when Fry said "thread"?
saveusmilkboy 5 months ago
Hiter was a fan of QI
airemillion90 5 months ago
what is this show? British TV looks awesome
Sonofkong0 5 months ago
@Sonofkong0 QI or Quite Interesting.it's a very good show.
hufflepuffy95 5 months ago
@hufflepuffy95 it's not a good show. It's an amazingly brilliant show!!
yankiedoodledoctor 5 months ago 3
This is utter crap. Godwin's law states that the debate will eventually contain a reference to Hitler or his regime but to extend this, as not originally contained in the law, to say that the one who makes that analogy is therefore the loser or the debate must end at that point is no more intellectually sound than the suggestion that the one who smelt it dealt it.
MartinJWillett 5 months ago
@MartinJWillett That's what Hitler and the Nazis reckoned.
superhooper1983 5 months ago
@superhooper1983 Jog on Hitler
DillingerEscapeMan 5 months ago
@MartinJWillett
Well this is the internet, 95% of the debates here will not be talking about Hitler in a strictly academic sense.
Godwin's law is like relativity, works most of the time, except at the quantum level.
superhamzah85 5 months ago
hahaha Thank you Mr Godwin! (and Steven, by extention)
I have been waiting for someone to academically comment on the overuse of Hitler in internet threads!
DCdabest 5 months ago
well idk about Hitler, but the usual thing is to start insulting each other's country and all that and of course remember WWII, who won it etc :) I personally see a lot of Russia vs USA flame wars because I watch many Russia-related videos :) Technology often comes up, i.e. "our tanks are better than your tanks" etc.
MaximPodolsky 6 months ago
Actually the longer any conversation goes the probability of anything happening is 1.
darkhawk1979 6 months ago
@darkhawk1979 Yes, but the law also states that the argument is deemed over as soon as Hitler or Naziism is mentioned. That's what makes it different but not really sort of not maybe possibly probably not who knows.
InFlam3sW3Trust 5 months ago
@InFlam3sW3Trust Spot on, but I was just pointing out that part of the law is a redundant statement. You mentioned Nazism and Hitler so any argument we may have is already over lol!
darkhawk1979 5 months ago
@InFlam3sW3Trust No it doesn't. Ignorance of the law is no defence.
MartinJWillett 5 months ago
@darkhawk1979 Approaches, surely. The longer any discussion is the chances of any particular thing happening gets more likely, because more things can happen in longer discussions, this must move the probability away from zero towards one. But the chances of a buffalo whistling Dixie in a pub discussion about West Ham always stays rather close to zero even if its likelihood does necessarily increase infinitesimally with every week that passes.
MartinJWillett 5 months ago
@MartinJWillett The only people who compare others to Hitler, are ones who no longer have any valid points to counter argue with. They have essentially lost because all they can come up with at that point is a completely unrelated attack on the other person's character. They've lost because at that point they've shown their lack of intelligence and tact and people like that aren't even worth wasting any more time on. That's why Godwin's Law is such a valid and astute observation.
marzi444 2 months ago
@marzi444 That is the crystallized classic bollocks I have been railing against. If people act like Hitler you can and should compare them to Hitler regardless of how long you have been discussing a particular subject and if the similarity is valid then so too is your point. It is absurd to pretend that Nazis, arrogant people, undemocratic manipulators and totalitarians don't exist! They do and it is not only right but our duty to point them out.
MartinJWillett 2 months ago
Mine don't end like that, they end about my atheism! :P
Itheanonymous 6 months ago
@Itheanonymous That would be more appropriately called Godwin's Law lol
darkhawk1979 6 months ago
During an internet argument, the word "fag" will be used at least three times.
andysido 6 months ago
@andysido Per post, or do you just know a lot of polite internet users?
SonOfHighValour 6 months ago
@SonOfHighValour Hmmm, I guess it depends on whether the person's IQ is below 70.
andysido 6 months ago
I was once in an argument on the net and the person I was arguing with was genuinly one of those neo nazi thingys. It said so on his/her profile
deathxsweetxdeath 6 months ago
Dumb argument. The longer a conversation goes the higher the probability that ANYTHING will be mentioned.
bocanutz 6 months ago
oh god, if these comedians got wind of /b/ we'd all be screwed.
Confusedfurry 6 months ago
I frequently use a Nazi analogy... Though, arguments never end on the internet!
Shift8YawnsShift8 6 months ago
Grammar "Nazis" anyone?
FXVG 6 months ago
stephen fry hair has a hitler feel to it.
26wordy 6 months ago
Thank Anon for that
DedanCossey 7 months ago
Godwin's law is mostly abused anyway, fuck it. Might as well cook up a similar law about communists or bush's america.
Trinivalts 7 months ago
Arguments of any form follow the same concept, after a certain amount of time: It slowly becomes more like a garden-themed costume contest, because it stops being a competition about who did the best, and more like a mass of giant tools.
LokkerG 7 months ago
@DanteDouglas Darn it, hoped I sound like a memologist.
mantas1111000 7 months ago
Only a show hosted by Stephen Fry could mention this.
mantas1111000 7 months ago 3
Godwin generalizing all internet arguments like that is no better than what Hitler did to the Jews.
aquablade 7 months ago 51
@aquablade That was so genius it's amazing.
SubRosaSpear 4 months ago
@aquablade you just proved godwin right
ASTEagle 4 months ago
@ASTEagle i·ro·ny1 [ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-] Show IPA
noun, plural -nies. (especially in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., especially as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
aquablade 4 months ago
@aquablade Hahaha I'm stealing this, thank you!
LocoGroove 3 months ago
Hitler LOVED movies, comedians and porn. From this angle, Adolf could have been a 21st century slacker!
seanmatthewrosen 7 months ago
Is that Guy Smiley from Sesame Street...
KingofCharmJack 8 months ago
I'm Naziated.
mphello 8 months ago
I find Hitler difficult to masturbate to.
mphello 8 months ago
@mphello LOL! - - - Try Eva Braun! : )
sidDkid87 7 months ago
I have a rule for any argument, online or offline: Never let it go too long, otherwise you feel more and more like an idiot as time goes on.
I use this analogy: Long arguments are like garden-themed costume contests, because it doesn't matter who wins or loses, and it doesn't matter that the winner gets a lot of stuff, everyone still looked like a tool for participating.
LokkerG 8 months ago
Pretty sure as a discussion grows longer the chance of a comparission to anything moves closer to one.
heroicfailures 9 months ago 7
I have my own law : if a vid has a lot of views and comments, the probability of a dicksplash posting a "thumbs up" approaches one. If you don't agree you're all as evil as Hitler!
iceman2792 9 months ago
@iceman2792 dicksplash made me lol
westbayjedi 8 months ago
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DON'T MENTION THE WAR!
Quex01 9 months ago
Ok, finally I understand Godwin's law. I understood the first part where using the hitler analogy is usually inappropriate, but the probability didn't quite make sense. Can Godwin's law also be adapted? I noticed conservatives don't ALWAYS" say Hitler. Sometimes they throw in a Stalin, or a Mao Tse-Tung, or a Pol Pot, usually when discussing atheism. Probably because they know Hitler was a Christian. Ohhh damn there I go with Godwin's law ;-)
Newenlightenmentnow 9 months ago
That's not true o-o i've argued so many times, and Nazi's have never been mentioned :)
ArghCake 9 months ago
@ArghCake except now, lol. :)
animegirls4evar 9 months ago
I only wish that Hitler could have been alive to see this moment.
TrollReborn 9 months ago
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JorvikMatt 9 months ago
well you 'hmming hmme1r' it just shows that your a 'hmming' 'hmmer!' and all the other 'hmms!' have been 'hmming' with there own 'hmmen' for the last 'hmm!' why don't you 'hmmen hmm hmm!'
mac2552u 10 months ago
Hitler was a vegetarian.
corvus13 10 months ago
Godwin's law = Fail.
Actual nazi's could get away with being nazi's, because if you'd point it out you apperently 'lose'.
Only complete dribbling retards would be lame enough to invoke Godwins law.
TheSkunkCat 10 months ago
Everyone in the comments is Hitler.
JoaquinNibali 10 months ago
Someone should invent a Godwins Law Asymptote Engine to stop this from happening fullstop... *nods* =P
JonnoGradian 10 months ago
OH MY GOD! Are people actually arguing about tha nazis and hitler on THIS video :| of all the videos... not this one
SirrSnowman 10 months ago
Godwin is a nazi.
sarcee1960 10 months ago
@sarcee1960 i think you broke the system
Jinda89 10 months ago
Bagel.
VanargrandsEnd 11 months ago
You're all a bunch of god damn nazi's!
darkstar3x16 1 year ago
People have a frightening propensity to flock to flawed "logic."
People are so thirsty for the refreshment of truth that they're most willing to guzzle liquid bullshit.
parafleet 1 year ago
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I think Godwin is a fuckhead. When people talk about world issues, it's quite natural to reference Hitler or the Nazis. What bigger influence has anything had on our lives (yes, even today) than the Second World War? And when people reference Hitler or the Nazis and simply mean "intollerant like the Nazis," "hateful like the Nazis," etc., it is utterly idiotic of the listener not to make the inference.
Oh, duh...you said it was such a bad day you wouldn't be surprised if the sky fell?!?
parafleet 1 year ago
..Uh oh..should I buy a helmet on my lunch hour then..?!..?..!
parafleet 1 year ago
The more comments a music video gets, the higher the probability Justin Bieber will be mentioned.
DrSmoothSkin 1 year ago 364