Hello. I hope everyone is listening. Please notice that Ms. Ling Ling said NOTHING about "hating" immigrants. It fills me with hope to hear a VOICE OF REASON in this emotional debate. Thank you.
4 people need to be forcibly castrated without anesthesia.
And be denied all food and clean water.
Do that to them for a year. Let's see how important all their bullshit pro-capitalist far-right-libertarian-extremist philosophies will be. (not the good things about libertarianism, such as freedom for private matters)
Overpopulation-deniers need to study physics, thermodynamics, and reality.
Besides the fact that infinite growth on a finite planet is physicall impossible, the Second Law of Thermodynamics guarantees that creating high localized order, say, by growing more humans and needlessly growing animals for meat (crops could be fed more efficiently to humans directly) and nuclear fission - faster than order can be recreated by the single process of photosynthesizing plants, reduces usuable energy ..
@mphello ... for doing work, whether to move vehicles or maintain our lives - medicine, surgery, food.
All the overpopulation deniers simply arrogantly and deliberately choose to ignore these CAUSAL reasons for the continued decline in quality of life. They yap only about correlations so far based on the 20th century that were due entirely to one-time-in-history oil jackpot.
population decline in a industrial country = economical collapse
and to fight global worming we need to develop new technology and this is very expensive, ONLY WITH A GROWING ECONOMY a country will spend more money in research. and a GROWING ECONOMY is associate with stable population GROWTH (1% to 1.5%) and NOT with A STABLE OR DECLINING POPULATION
The sad part is that most Americans think having only 2 children IS a small family. Because it's "the replacement rate." Let's use our fingers: 2 + 2 = 4. Unless you plan on dropping dead right after you give birth, 2 + 2 does not equal 2.
@Cytochr0me replacement rate is 2.1, which mean every women NOT family, should have 2.1 child so a nation can replace it self. but to achieve this "fertility rate" 2.1 every family should have an average of 2.5 to 3 kids because NOT every women will get married or give birth in her life time.
however it doesn't mean that when a nation achieve the 2.1 rate its population growth will stop immediately instead it will grow for some time and then stop that is called " Population momentum"
What you just did is mathematical modelling, the kind done by actuaries in computing life expectancies,
but what you have said in non-math terms is a more sophisticated cause-and-effect model than the brainless probabilities that actuaries deal with.
These overpopulation-and-manmade-climate-change-denying shitheads are not mentally capable of thinking of the deterministic consequences of their actions or any actions.
Hello. I hope everyone is listening. Please notice that Ms. Ling Ling said NOTHING about "hating" immigrants. It fills me with hope to hear a VOICE OF REASON in this emotional debate. Thank you.
mjcamck 3 weeks ago
4 people need to be forcibly castrated without anesthesia.
And be denied all food and clean water.
Do that to them for a year. Let's see how important all their bullshit pro-capitalist far-right-libertarian-extremist philosophies will be. (not the good things about libertarianism, such as freedom for private matters)
mphello 7 months ago
Overpopulation-deniers need to study physics, thermodynamics, and reality.
Besides the fact that infinite growth on a finite planet is physicall impossible, the Second Law of Thermodynamics guarantees that creating high localized order, say, by growing more humans and needlessly growing animals for meat (crops could be fed more efficiently to humans directly) and nuclear fission - faster than order can be recreated by the single process of photosynthesizing plants, reduces usuable energy ..
mphello 8 months ago
@mphello ... for doing work, whether to move vehicles or maintain our lives - medicine, surgery, food.
All the overpopulation deniers simply arrogantly and deliberately choose to ignore these CAUSAL reasons for the continued decline in quality of life. They yap only about correlations so far based on the 20th century that were due entirely to one-time-in-history oil jackpot.
mphello 8 months ago
Better to make the hard transition to a post-meat post-carbon world now to prevent a far more dramatic level of starvation and poverty later.
Outlaw breeding animals for food. It is torture and 100X worse than raping children.
Outlaw breeding humans by mandatory vasectomies.
Outlaw nuclear power and coal plants.
Mandate electric-only cars be built and used, powered by solar and wind.
mphello 8 months ago
those people should start studying economy
population decline in a industrial country = economical collapse
and to fight global worming we need to develop new technology and this is very expensive, ONLY WITH A GROWING ECONOMY a country will spend more money in research. and a GROWING ECONOMY is associate with stable population GROWTH (1% to 1.5%) and NOT with A STABLE OR DECLINING POPULATION
personutile 9 months ago
I agree! She should start the process by leaving herself.
ajames95 1 year ago
The sad part is that most Americans think having only 2 children IS a small family. Because it's "the replacement rate." Let's use our fingers: 2 + 2 = 4. Unless you plan on dropping dead right after you give birth, 2 + 2 does not equal 2.
Cytochr0me 1 year ago
@Cytochr0me replacement rate is 2.1, which mean every women NOT family, should have 2.1 child so a nation can replace it self. but to achieve this "fertility rate" 2.1 every family should have an average of 2.5 to 3 kids because NOT every women will get married or give birth in her life time.
however it doesn't mean that when a nation achieve the 2.1 rate its population growth will stop immediately instead it will grow for some time and then stop that is called " Population momentum"
personutile 9 months ago
@Cytochr0me BRAVO! Amen!
What you just did is mathematical modelling, the kind done by actuaries in computing life expectancies,
but what you have said in non-math terms is a more sophisticated cause-and-effect model than the brainless probabilities that actuaries deal with.
These overpopulation-and-manmade-climate-change-denying shitheads are not mentally capable of thinking of the deterministic consequences of their actions or any actions.
mphello 8 months ago
Well said !
RayDandy 1 year ago
Just looked at the website of "Alliance for a Sustainable USA". Impressive group! And that Executive Director really knows her stuff.
SPAnsw 1 year ago 2