Electrical Wiring-Breaker Jumpers

[GAR984]

would the tap rule apply for that breaker LOL

JK, I have seen some crap, but that is very imaginative, you have to admit, even though it is a fire hazzard

[sparkyUonline]

@GAR984 I see a lot of "imaginative" things in the field!

[smiththomas64]

The 2 pole 30 amp breaker that is not connected to the bus is NOT being fed from the line side of the meter, (like sparkyuonline said) but is connected to the load side of the meter. He even showed the two wires coming off it after he cut everything loose. So in effect all that has happened is space rather than bolting the 2 pole 30 amp pigtails were used instead due to the lack of space. Look closely there are no # 10 wires that enter the meter cabinet. Sketchy but not accurately described

[sparkyUonline]

@smiththomas64 You're correct in that the fist part of my video I did say "line side of meter but @ 1:25 I corrected myself saying " load side of meter". Very good observation on your part, thanks for taking the time to comment.

[rdcstyle6612]

if their tying in from the load side of the meter when the meter socket is pulled out is their still risk of electrical shock? ive heard of people trying to steal power by connecting their wires line side is that correct?

[sparkyUonline]

@rdcstyle6612 There are many ways people try to cheat the system-but they get caught! In answer to your other question in my opinion ,as long as there is power coming up a u/g feed or down the mast-there is a risk!!

[Techozek]

Electrical switchgear, equipment and installations in America look so horrible, old, messy and industrial.

[sparkyUonline]

@Techozek This type of work exists all over the world.I am just exposing the worst of the worst here.It is not typical of all work done here in America.

[Techozek]

American switchgear looks so industrial.

Horrible.

[vampmike666]

@cjazerjay #10 wire.. That is funny! ROFLMAO! If I remember correctly to run a 100A service line it should be around 6-2 with ground or even 0Ga. solid, where as a 220V stove would take 10-3 with ground. Although 10Gague wire would run around 60A max load.  Considering working with AWG coding. Do I stand correct sparkyUonline?

[autodrivex]

"Death is imminent." LOL.

[joom12]

Some people don't give a shit.

[ArchNME]

This isn't as unsafe as you make it out to be. If there is a 30 amp breaker on that 10 gauge wire than no more than 30 amps is going to come down it regardless of whether it's hooked directly to a million amp circuit. 10 gauge for 30 amps of current is fine.

[Anubis4815162342]

@ArchNME Unless that 10 gauge wire gets a nick in the insulation on the line side and shorts out. Then you have 100 Amps through a 30 amp wire.

[ArchNME]

@Anubis4815162342 A short would trip the 100 amp breaker

[Anubis4815162342]

@ArchNME Maybe, but not before the wire over heated, and caught on fire.

[HappyDiscoDeath]

apparently electrical safety is overrated. to the whiners, turn your speakers up or use headphones. opening your mouth without thinking first makes you look really stupid.

[ucw458]

Hello this is Mumbly the mumbling electrition. I just love making extremely quiet videos and speaking so low that nobody can hear me.

I also love telling people who complain about my audio that I can hear it just fine. Everyone else must have their speakers turned down.

[londontrada]

@ucw458 LOL, I know, his vids look really interesting but i cant hear a word he says, and he refuses to believe its too quiet.

I think its really weird!

[TUBEORATER]

If the 8" #10 wire that is replacing the lug were to short to the box and the box wasn't grounded, then it would be a problem. (deadly)

The only time that wire would see 100A is if it shorted inside the box and that would only last until the wire burned up.

The current that flows through that wire is determined by the 30A breaker as long as it remains insulated.

A cheap and dirty fix for a burned up bus lug and not wise practice but not as terrible as you proclaim.

[autodrivex]

@TUBEORATER Agreed. Many of the things in these videos are potentially dangerous. But obviously none of them have burned down the house or he wouldn't be there to take a picture! :)

[111fishkiller]

Your audio sux man...BARELY can even hear the narration..

[9020powrmax]

What kind of crack was that so-called electrician smoking!! Glad you were there Sparky to correct the problem and possibly save lives.. #10 wire on load side of meter..... NOT!!!......

[jwcoopest1975]

Thanks Ripu for the input. I dont think that #10 wire in the meter was type TFE. I am impressed that a #10 can hold 107 amps. Never looked at this chart much. I mostly use THHN and size it up in the 75 degree chart, because that is what most lugs are rated at in building panels.

[jwcoopest1975]

Thanks for you post Sparky. Looks like my man needed free power for the hot water heater to hook in on the line of the meter. Obviously 100 amps never went through the 10 wire, their would be nothing left but ash. I think sparky ment to say the #10 was under the same lug as the #4 on the line of the 100 amp meter. Now Blob any thing on the load of the breaker was fused at 30. The #10 line before it was fused for a 100. Yea Blob its a shit job.

[Ripu2]

@jwcoopest1975

The line wouldn't be ash. The NEC protects wire from HEAT.

What is the amperage rating of a #10 TFE wire suspended in free air. 107 amps. It can safely support this amount of HEAT because the insulation is made for that heat. The conductor material is the same as #10 THHN (30 amps).

[jwcoopest1975]

Thanks Ripu for the input. Never really thought a #10 w/ the right insulation could hold over 100 amps. I mostly use the 75 degree chart because that is what must lugs are rated at, and pull thhn through conduits.

[jwcoopest1975]

Looking at 310.19 NEC. wow! 4/0=830 amps

[Ripu2]

The #4 from the meter socket to the main is not fused at 100amps. It is called an un-fused conductor. It has potential to carry the AIC (available in-rush current) that the power company has designed that substation to carry. Most residential areas is 10kAIC.

[cjazerjay]

Thanks for the tip ace!!!

Comment below was a joke.

I too have been a journeyman electrician for about 10 years now. "lighten" up a little.

[Blobsterss]

How can you get 100amps going through a conductor that is on a 30 amp breaker?

It looks to me like all they did was use #10 conductors to create more bus so that they could get another breaker in. Everything going into the house was still breaker protected.

Not as bad as you made it seem. I'd do it for a temporary fix, nothing would blow up.

[Ripu2]

The only way you could get 100amps on that line, is if it grounded to the can through an insulation nick. It could happen, and has before.

But, that line would have the potential of much greater than 100 amps. There is a reason that those breakers are 10,000AIC rated.

[cjazerjay]

#10 is good for 100 amps. Try it out.

[sparkyUonline]

Can you back that up with some documentation?

LOL

[1LitreofCola]

@sparkyUonline wouldn't you need 3AWG if it's RW90 to carry 100A?

[triguer1]

2002 NEC 310.16 a #10 AWG its only good for 30 AMP on the 60 degrees Celsius column (which is normally use, since terminals rarely have temperature rating)

[Ripu2]

You are correct. The wire will carry it, as long as the insulation rating is good for it.

@sparkyUonline. From memory 310.19 Remember you are looking for wire size, not insulation rating. He stated #10, and not what kind of insulation was on the wire. I know that TFE #10 is good for 107 amps, single conductor in free air.

[ballsniff13]

holy shit man people need to learn how to do shit the right way

[sparkyUonline]

The stuff I run into is unbelievable sometimes.When you see this kind of thing you just have to shake your head and fix it!

[windoes98se]

omg, who would do such a thing, who ever did this could of died

[sparkyUonline]

Sometimes it is not so much the person who did the work,but the innocent people who live there and do not know any better.

[illykoinu]

cant hear