Thanks for the video. I am trying to attract my sons to this sport and your review is a very good lesson to learn what PCplanes should and should not do.
Hey I am pretty new to flying planes, I bought an art tech Cessna 182 to start flying with but I've had a lot of problems with it, things such as its not ascending and the esc got to hot and burnt :( and I'm thinking I might have to convert it to a brushless system to give it that extra power so it can take off as the stock system it has at the moment is rubish. After I get some flight experience I would like to get an electric war bird plane but I'm not sure what I would get, could you suggest
@jonesgerard yeah. we brought it to the airfield and had a well experienced flyer fly it.. she was noseheavy so he had a tough tim maneuvering it and on the approach it rolled and crashed.. definitely fixable but right now we're doing corsairs.. ive gotten a lot more experience now and i think ive got it
Bought a plane from this company for my sons 14th birthday. Wing was damaged and front landing gear was missing. Contacted company 4 different times to get replacements. Company cannot tell me when replacements will arrive. Sixty days and still haven`t flown the plane. Buy again? No Way.
That square with those 2 holes on the ruder. Is missing on mine so...... what should i do should i put a piece of tape over it or buy a spare part if so where?
Great detailed Video. I've got the HobbyKing 800mm Spitfire & it flies great. One thing though is that the elevator throw is minimal. Maybe the problem is you're used to flying a computer radio with expo setup on it, & this non digital radio has no expo, therefore not dumbing down your normal bigger thumb movements.
I had the same plane i taped 5 quarters to the front just under the nose it flew much better overall its a high speed flyer the aerobatics were pretty good really liked flat spins but slow speed handling and spinning were bad... also liked about a quarter throttle on final after buying the t-28 800mm plane.. looking back on the spit fire... it sucks haha
When you glide, do you stop the engine? I ask this because in the videos nitroplanes makes, they say that their models "don't like" to have their engines stopped while being in the air. So that could be your issue, I think you just have to keep at least between 25% and 50% of power on this model.
50 Years Flying?? REALLY? I am flying Perfectally after flying for only 6Months.
Ive got many aircraft and Yes I crash(Everyone Does) But not very much :)(Use Cmptr FlightSims.)
Corsairs, Spitfire's, Trainers, EXTRA 300, B2Bomber(big scale), Home Made: SR71, and More! ALSO Had first flight in 6MONTHS(Over christmas didnt fly) did quite well actually. Lol.
NitroPlanes is OK. The quality of the planes is not top-notch, but I like that they have many interesting, unique planes (more so than other companies). If they step up quality to that of Parkzone or Eflite, I will happily continue buying from them.
hey, i have just checked out the 800mm test vid from nitro planes, and he does state, if you buy the spitfire for you to get antoher tx with adjustable throws and to add some weight to the front, so i am very sure these guys are more than aware of this litttle problem :) , but with the spitfire, scaling it is hard, due to the positioning of the wings, but moving them back on desiging of the scale model resolves a shed load of future issues, (dynams fault there me thinks :) )
I love mine. I fly it all the time and it flies great. I took the landing gear off and hand launch it. I bought the airframe only and added all of my own gear. All of the Spitfires I've ever owned (7 or 8) have been extremely sensitive to elevator throw. Spitfires only need a tiny bit of elevator movement. It's a great looking and flying model.
porpoising action on landing Usually indicates "a Nose Heavy plane" a tail heavy plane will tend to act "3d'ish" pulling up but not immediately lowering it's nose when you let off...
CG is critical, as is some downthrust on these planes... many modelers will be confused that a plane pulling up under throttle is tail heavy where many times it's just there is no downthrust in the motor...
Hello, I have a Glo-fuel Large scale Spitfire (1:7 I believe) that is ready to fly and I have mastered the Trainer Plane.. Do you have any first flight tips?
Hello, I have a spitfire myself.. It will be my second plane,after the trainer. I have fully mastered the trainer. Do you have any advice on first flight tips?
I bought the upgraded brushless F4U Corsair from NitroPlanes over a week ago. Bad experience. It arrived with a broken wingtip and aileron. The wingtip was easy, the broken aileron was internally damaged and had a broken hinge. The internal rod seemed to be bent/damaged, and it proved to be impossible to fix. The plane's motor mount is TERRIBLE. The plane landed in a tall patch of weeds; it did not touch a hard surface, and that was it. You always get what you pay for!
I had this problem with the Extra 330s from dynam, the one you made into a nightflyer. i found that the only way to get it to fly decent was to move the cg lower, like mounting the clay under the wing and putting tape over it, this makes it less pitchy and more of a stable plane
Evening Sir, it's just an idea that occurs to me, what about the leading edge thickness? and for that matter the trailing edge thickness, the detail lines etc, they often seem well out of scale on flying models, and I'm sure if we scaled them up to the real plane we might find the same kind of problems. scaled down aerodynamics in my probably uneducated opinion be even more susceptible to turbulence. with that, I like your vids.
I got the dynam super cub 4CH recently... the ailerons WON'T match up even. They will at first, but when moving ailerons right or left, then back to no input, they DON'T line up correctly as they had. It makes it impossible to fly! Crappy parts in many of these planes from nitroplanes... I also replaced all hardware in my catalina. I'll fix up the cub and hopefully it flies.
One thing I can tell right from the start is that the vertical stabilizer is way too small. Heck, the whole empennage is too small. The "scale" look is nice, but the areodynamics simply don't work. I've learned that when buying RC planes online, "buyer beware" is rule #1. Personally, I won't buy any plane online unless they at least have a video of someone flying the stock version.
There is no blanket statement regarding tapered wings having a tendency to tip stall that is accurate. The full side Spitfire didn't have washout and handled low speeds great, just like most scale/semi-scale models of it do.
That kind of feedback to a guy with the sort of experience Dave has is like showing a 60 year old how to tie his shoes.Please.
The CG was fine 2nd time.
My guess is a bad servo or two under load. Dave- MAG-29,26,HMA-269,LPH-9 here. Semper Fi !
Tapered wings have a tendency towards tip stalling. The solution is to design in washout at the tips.
By the way if flew, though, it looks like there's not enough positive incidence in the wing AND it's tail heavy. Along with this, you're now likely to need some downthrust in the motor.
Wow, wow, wow... I think you are confused. The A-10 is from GuanLi, and I think that radio is crap. Your Extra 330 is from Dynam, and that radio is great. I have both.
I think you meant to reference your Extra 330, not A-10 when you were speaking of the Dynam radio?
Scratch build all the way, these factory planes that out on the market today just arent really ment to fly, to many of these factory models are coming out of the box unbalnced, with substandard parts and lousy radio's but heythey sure are ready to sell you spare parts at the hobby shop!
#4 - If it flies like it's tail heavy - It is! Spitfires need a very forward c of g, they have a relatively small tailplane area and should be set up to have 'longitudinal dihedral', ie, nose heavy and the tailplane pushing the tail down. The Cassut 111M is the same. Personally, I'd set the c of g ahead of what the manufacturers recommend and go from there.
- @4:30 i thought i heard the UPS truck with my flight simulator but its a truck or something at your house----my 2600kv with 30a esc and 11.1 lipo is on/off with the original radio -whats the fix? it was linear slow -fast with the original brushed motor
spitfire is the one of the most manuevering planes of ww.. this rc seems weird a lot. The fuselage is big, wings are small.. maybe this is why the rc/plane sucks.
For it's size, the spitfire has a larger wing area than most other fighters of it's era. The Messerschmitt Bf109 has a far smaller wing area and a much higher wing loading. You need to do some research before commenting.
and you should STFU. Dont compare 109 with spit. 109 like 190's are maded to b&z and high-speed combats, ofc the wings are way different than spit. I sayd in this MODEL, in THIS RC PLANE the scale dont seems to be accurate. So just stfu
who cares about english? and you must learn something kid.. when you born I was getting my pp certification.. so please, grow up. Learn something usefull: respect the people and dont be like this kind of stupid "youtube teachers".. Obviously, you dont know NOTHING about aviation kid. - Just grow up and ask ur parents for some education and discipline.
Kid? I'm older than you, you fuckstain. I'm also a professional mechanical engineer, a full size pilot, a model pilot and model designer. Now, start with your spelling, you're illiterate, then go on to learn more complex subjects.
"I don't fans"? That makes no sense. And you're telling me to get an education - I have one, as I said, I'm a professional mechanical engineer. You're simply pathetic, 'kid'.
you should have just made the video without the how to fix it part thats why they gave it to you so you can fix these problems for them if you know what i mean
Working with engineers I learned a big lesson, K.I.S.S.. Keep it simple stupid.
Those scale mark II under wing add-ons although look like nice for the plastic model buildier, is bad for small scale flying. Very true.
I'm sure many other design flaws where incorporated such as bad center of gravity, control surface design and throws, servos, esc, motor, etc. etc. etc... If you can fix this plane you are worth 5 engineers at the company that made it.
This is your best video yet. It's really fun to see you talk about a plane that's *not* wonderful. I've been watching your videos for a while now and I really enjoy your reviews!
Dave, check the wing/ stabilizer incidence. My Skyartech Cessna was flying very much like your Spitfire, tip stalling, pitching, etc. I added a 3/32 shim at the back of my wing (it had positive incidence) and made a world of difference. With your wing not fitting to the fuslege properly, that could be altering the incidence. Wouldn't hurt to check.
I'm real interested if you've come to any conclusions about this plane. Balance?
Dihedral? Wing shape not good for slow speed? (tip stalling). I would love to see you resolve the problem and be able to make this plane fly. (plus show the manufacturers you know your stuff!)
Normally the model 'glitches', that's to say that it will make uncommanded manouvres, often this is temporary and whenever you experience a radio glitch, you should land immediately, pack up and thoroughly check the model on the ground. There's nothing less sensible than risking another flight or refusing to land when the radio signal becomes intermittent. 2.4GHz radios are helping to alleviate this these days although even they aren't perfect.
Hey NightFlyyer, what a impressive collection of planes you have! nice!
I spent over 6 month with my Nitroplanes spitfire, to figure out how to make it fly as beatiful as it is. just like one of those Aces of Battle of britain movies. The spit is as beauty as tricky, you are right when I was setting center of G. and surface controls, it seems very unstable, but once you tune up properly it flys as a fine lady.
Yet another HONEST review, Dave. Kinda blows the "Hack for Nitroplanes" theory right out of the water, doesn't it? I hope the naysayers from the P-51 review will take note of this. I'm sending out your gloves today, I PROMISE! You're gonna love 'em!
Again, great video Dave. You could try to compare this to the ParkZone Spitfire RTF. It is an aileron trainer from PKZ and looks great. Here are some specs: Wing Span: 39.5in (1000mm) Overall Length: 33.5in (850mm) Flying Weight: 26oz (740g) Motor Size: 480 Power with gear reduction Radio: 3ch FM proportional (27mHz) Servos: 3-wire, 12g Rudder: no Transmitter Range: 2500ft Landing Gear: none (belly lander) item #: PKZ1700 Sweet Flying!
Now that i think about it this plane reminds me of a E-Flite Sea Fury plane I have. The wings are kind of the same design but I needed a ton of weight in the nose and the plane was extremely nose heavy for it to fly level. Maybe if you added more weight in the nose. More then you think you would need.
Sorry, I don't mean that in any harsh way, but they're probably stocked with spitfires and if people were to spot out this video... then they'd have no reason to buy it leaving nitroplanes stuck with a pile of spitfires to burn.
Thanks. Yep, they left something out on this one, but I havent figured out what it is yet. I feel I shouldnt have to, especially with an RTF plane. Thanks again,
Such a shame as that did look he part Dave,i have a parkzone spitty if you remeber and she flies so well and also have just got the parkzone BF-109G and she has the two Closed off vents under the wing and she flies good to,so i think your bang on with why your spitty is playing up,well i hope you get it all sorted out soon ;-) 5*
Thanks. I appreciate that. Unfortunately, scaling down full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. I filled the nose with weight, to no avail and reduced throws as far as I could, to no avail,. Thanks for the comments.
It looks beautiful but it flies like it has lead in its tail. Maybe the servos are throwing more then can be corrected? One thing that bugs me is the wheels seemingly don't fit that plane and the boots might be causing drag.
Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. I filled the nose with weight, to no avail and reduced throws as far as I could, to no avail,. Thanks for the comments.
bummer plane my corsair from them kinda had the same crazy problems unfortunately i totaled it on the third flight after more adjustments lol great vid and love the real deal reviews.
Sorry about the Corsair. Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. Thanks for the comments.
Hope things work out for ya Dave,I figured that one would of been a keeper, looks like a nice plane.Looking forward for the results......................Bob
Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. Thanks for the comments.
Dave, do you get all these planes free from the company, or at a great great discount? Because it seems like you have money comming our your ass to be making these constant videos with different planes, lol. Wish I had money like that.
No I dont get them all free. I do get a couple now and then to review, and get to keep them, but keeping junk and spending 10-15 hours to produce a video, is hardly worth it sometimes. This one especially.,
We know it's not pilot error. Dang thing flies like a 2x4! They should have made the spinner out of lead! Awesome video. I think you were very fair in your analysis.
Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. Lead spinner. Ahhh, now I know were to add more weight. Thanks for the comments.
I've watched quite a few videos of you flying, and i've never seen you crash, and you crashed twice in this video. That plane is no good. The only question is if your plane was defective or if they are all this bad.
Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. Thanks for the comments.
This one's a beauty but I wonder if you set it up on the DX6i if you might have better luck as far as trim goes. Maybe try some weight in the nose of the plane, it looks tail heavy. Great video and thanks for the review. 5/5
Yep, I added as much weight as I could fit in, and know it probably needs more. If that is true, it should have said that you have to add 6 ounces of weight to the nose and left a place to put it. DX6i should work, but I dont think I should have to do all this stuff that should be done for us, when buying an RTF airplane, you know. Thanks.
I agree fully. There is nothing worse than spending money on something that is suppose to be properly built for you, just to have to fix the errors of the factory. Have you heard from Nitroplanes yet?
Thats unfortunate, pretty plane, but that girl does not take to the air very well. I think Parkzone and Art-Tech both have really impressive electric brushless Spitfires, I'm guessing nitroplanes doesn't carry them though.
You might be right about shaving off the radiator and covering the landing gear holes, but I bet that plane will still have the about the same control problems.
Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. Thanks for the comments.
The holidays are coming, why don't you ask Santa Claus to bring you one? I bet he will if you're a good boy! Dave may appear to be a jolly man, but he ain't THAT jolly! :-)
It looks to me like the design of the wings are faulty to RC specs. They seem to be too big and I think that is why you are getting these wild swings from little TX movement. The wings dominate the surface area looking at it from the bottom. Maybe it needs more aileron , maybe less... just speculative. Hope you can fix it Dave. Great vid 5/5.
Thanks. I think it will eventually get worked out,but I also think that it should have been worked out at the factory, not after the consumer gets it,.
True. I did not have anymore room to put in more weight, or I would have, and your right about the stab too. I think those things should have been worked out at the factory, not for the consumer to figure out, however.
There are many good models of Spitfires that fly nice, especially with 4 foot wingspans. Have him try this one, and you will see the same results, I guarantee it,.
man i no how that can be. i don't build r/c airplanes but i do build model airplanes quite frequently and i know that IT IS SO FRUSTRATING when a part doesn't fit or if a part isn't included that is necessary for correct function or for correct assembly. i usually pay around thirty bucks for a model but paying over a hundred dollars for something that doesn't function.. i can't imagine how frustrating that must be..
We learn threw our mistakes AND/OR crashes and even if I don't have this plane I learned something new in watching you're video and that is the bit about checking COG with a low wing plane upside down. THANKS DAVE, hope you get her back in the air.
Thanks for the video. I am trying to attract my sons to this sport and your review is a very good lesson to learn what PCplanes should and should not do.
vadimzn 3 weeks ago
the eliptical wing tip stalls easily even on the real plane
MrROTD 3 weeks ago
oh no the classic tip stall and its way tail heavy, too bad
MrROTD 3 weeks ago
A war bird plane that works nicely pleased? Thanks :)
merlynismint 2 months ago
Hey I am pretty new to flying planes, I bought an art tech Cessna 182 to start flying with but I've had a lot of problems with it, things such as its not ascending and the esc got to hot and burnt :( and I'm thinking I might have to convert it to a brushless system to give it that extra power so it can take off as the stock system it has at the moment is rubish. After I get some flight experience I would like to get an electric war bird plane but I'm not sure what I would get, could you suggest
merlynismint 2 months ago
@merlynismint e-flite or parkzone are always good and ready to fly
MrROTD 3 weeks ago
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javamochacocoa 2 months ago
@jonesgerard yeah. we brought it to the airfield and had a well experienced flyer fly it.. she was noseheavy so he had a tough tim maneuvering it and on the approach it rolled and crashed.. definitely fixable but right now we're doing corsairs.. ive gotten a lot more experience now and i think ive got it
fatmat210 2 months ago
Customer service is a joke. Would not purchase from this company again.
Jordendog 3 months ago
Bought a plane from this company for my sons 14th birthday. Wing was damaged and front landing gear was missing. Contacted company 4 different times to get replacements. Company cannot tell me when replacements will arrive. Sixty days and still haven`t flown the plane. Buy again? No Way.
Jordendog 3 months ago
hello my friend , my spitfire is very critic, and easy stall, is very fast
zombieredskull 3 months ago
That square with those 2 holes on the ruder. Is missing on mine so...... what should i do should i put a piece of tape over it or buy a spare part if so where?
96FreedomFighter 4 months ago
Great detailed Video. I've got the HobbyKing 800mm Spitfire & it flies great. One thing though is that the elevator throw is minimal. Maybe the problem is you're used to flying a computer radio with expo setup on it, & this non digital radio has no expo, therefore not dumbing down your normal bigger thumb movements.
toose70 5 months ago
I had the same plane i taped 5 quarters to the front just under the nose it flew much better overall its a high speed flyer the aerobatics were pretty good really liked flat spins but slow speed handling and spinning were bad... also liked about a quarter throttle on final after buying the t-28 800mm plane.. looking back on the spit fire... it sucks haha
aftoxic 5 months ago
@aftoxic dynam doesnt make the best planes either.. airfield has best quality so far that iv experianced
aftoxic 5 months ago
you said shitfire!!!
RCWOZDUDE 6 months ago
Try ParkZone's new Spitfire on Horizon Hobby!!!!
drypipe1 6 months ago
HOW MUCH $ have you spent on rc?
youronlycow 8 months ago
When you glide, do you stop the engine? I ask this because in the videos nitroplanes makes, they say that their models "don't like" to have their engines stopped while being in the air. So that could be your issue, I think you just have to keep at least between 25% and 50% of power on this model.
1ikheetgeenhenk 8 months ago
Hey, the soundtrack is the Chase from Jan Hammer!
sonykroket 8 months ago
50 Years Flying?? REALLY? I am flying Perfectally after flying for only 6Months.
Ive got many aircraft and Yes I crash(Everyone Does) But not very much :)(Use Cmptr FlightSims.)
Corsairs, Spitfire's, Trainers, EXTRA 300, B2Bomber(big scale), Home Made: SR71, and More! ALSO Had first flight in 6MONTHS(Over christmas didnt fly) did quite well actually. Lol.
LordJake1337 10 months ago
NitroPlanes is OK. The quality of the planes is not top-notch, but I like that they have many interesting, unique planes (more so than other companies). If they step up quality to that of Parkzone or Eflite, I will happily continue buying from them.
runway34r 10 months ago
thanks for the amazing reviews you taught me so much tips and advice i needed. keep them coming! :)
TheHiddenmagician 11 months ago
hey, i have just checked out the 800mm test vid from nitro planes, and he does state, if you buy the spitfire for you to get antoher tx with adjustable throws and to add some weight to the front, so i am very sure these guys are more than aware of this litttle problem :) , but with the spitfire, scaling it is hard, due to the positioning of the wings, but moving them back on desiging of the scale model resolves a shed load of future issues, (dynams fault there me thinks :) )
INSOMANIAC45 11 months ago
You have the greatest Planes out there, Thanks for being there.
johnboy6247 11 months ago
you have so much rc planes and i wish me a cessna 182 rtf can you give me a plane ?
jesterocin 1 year ago
Tumbs up if you think that all rc airplanes are expensive. does anyone know where you can buy cheaper ones
1Filmproducer 1 year ago
@1Filmproducer try hobby king they got expensive ones and really cheap one for $40 !!!
MrDjdom66 1 year ago
I love mine. I fly it all the time and it flies great. I took the landing gear off and hand launch it. I bought the airframe only and added all of my own gear. All of the Spitfires I've ever owned (7 or 8) have been extremely sensitive to elevator throw. Spitfires only need a tiny bit of elevator movement. It's a great looking and flying model.
CarreraGTSCS 1 year ago
@CarreraGTSCS DISREGARD MY COMMENTS. I WAS REFERRING TO THE NITROPLANES 800mm AIRFIELD SPITFIRE. SORRY FOR THE MIX UP.
CarreraGTSCS 1 year ago
What about testing on the ground? Maybe the receiver was faulty or glitchy and caused the servos to glitch giving a wobble effect?
theleabres 1 year ago
Nice dog hahaha, you should make it fetch your crashed planes xD
ilikecheeseandnachos 1 year ago
porpoising action on landing Usually indicates "a Nose Heavy plane" a tail heavy plane will tend to act "3d'ish" pulling up but not immediately lowering it's nose when you let off...
CG is critical, as is some downthrust on these planes... many modelers will be confused that a plane pulling up under throttle is tail heavy where many times it's just there is no downthrust in the motor...
SK
ministeve2003 1 year ago
Hello, I have a Glo-fuel Large scale Spitfire (1:7 I believe) that is ready to fly and I have mastered the Trainer Plane.. Do you have any first flight tips?
fatmat210 1 year ago
Hello, I myself have a spitfire. It is my second plane. Any first flight tips?
fatmat210 1 year ago
@fatmat210 How did your spitfire go, I wouldn't recommend spitfire as second model, no way.
Not unless its way way off scale.
jonesgerard 1 year ago
Hello, I have a spitfire myself.. It will be my second plane,after the trainer. I have fully mastered the trainer. Do you have any advice on first flight tips?
fatmat210 1 year ago
I bought the upgraded brushless F4U Corsair from NitroPlanes over a week ago. Bad experience. It arrived with a broken wingtip and aileron. The wingtip was easy, the broken aileron was internally damaged and had a broken hinge. The internal rod seemed to be bent/damaged, and it proved to be impossible to fix. The plane's motor mount is TERRIBLE. The plane landed in a tall patch of weeds; it did not touch a hard surface, and that was it. You always get what you pay for!
CarlosMerighe 1 year ago
ya that thing flies like pure crap w.e. you do to it. my dad had one and i hated flying it.
jamesyak52 1 year ago
but thats how the bottom of a real spitfire is!
rew428 1 year ago
HAHAHAHA Nightflyyer is sooo funny..."DID HE SAY SHITFIRE!!!!!"
badgolf1 1 year ago
I had this problem with the Extra 330s from dynam, the one you made into a nightflyer. i found that the only way to get it to fly decent was to move the cg lower, like mounting the clay under the wing and putting tape over it, this makes it less pitchy and more of a stable plane
jenius8477 1 year ago
@jenius8477 I suggest to you flip the main wings upside down and move de CG foward by 1/4". Do some research on it and you will be surprise
MrRican34 1 year ago
@MrRican34 why flip the wing? i thought it was symmetrical? can you link to me to the research you found?
jenius8477 1 year ago
While the elliptical wing design was efficient it was also known for stalling at the tip before the root, hence the tip stall..
pbcrazy9898 1 year ago
i think its the gap of the wings my opinion
aerofores 1 year ago
Evening Sir, it's just an idea that occurs to me, what about the leading edge thickness? and for that matter the trailing edge thickness, the detail lines etc, they often seem well out of scale on flying models, and I'm sure if we scaled them up to the real plane we might find the same kind of problems. scaled down aerodynamics in my probably uneducated opinion be even more susceptible to turbulence. with that, I like your vids.
reese5alive 1 year ago
i had the exact same thing happen to my GWS zero
do you have any more advice as to what i can do to make it fly better?
planesRus 1 year ago
Yep the nose of the Spit was very much like the head of the pilot. EMPTY!!!
tankuman 1 year ago
I got the dynam super cub 4CH recently... the ailerons WON'T match up even. They will at first, but when moving ailerons right or left, then back to no input, they DON'T line up correctly as they had. It makes it impossible to fly! Crappy parts in many of these planes from nitroplanes... I also replaced all hardware in my catalina. I'll fix up the cub and hopefully it flies.
earthling1984 1 year ago
One thing I can tell right from the start is that the vertical stabilizer is way too small. Heck, the whole empennage is too small. The "scale" look is nice, but the areodynamics simply don't work. I've learned that when buying RC planes online, "buyer beware" is rule #1. Personally, I won't buy any plane online unless they at least have a video of someone flying the stock version.
lisarenee3505 1 year ago
There is no blanket statement regarding tapered wings having a tendency to tip stall that is accurate. The full side Spitfire didn't have washout and handled low speeds great, just like most scale/semi-scale models of it do.
That kind of feedback to a guy with the sort of experience Dave has is like showing a 60 year old how to tie his shoes.Please.
The CG was fine 2nd time.
My guess is a bad servo or two under load. Dave- MAG-29,26,HMA-269,LPH-9 here. Semper Fi !
dobent4 1 year ago
Tapered wings have a tendency towards tip stalling. The solution is to design in washout at the tips.
By the way if flew, though, it looks like there's not enough positive incidence in the wing AND it's tail heavy. Along with this, you're now likely to need some downthrust in the motor.
But washout in the wing would help a lot.
hopeso 2 years ago
I think they did say shitfire lol
nahanton 2 years ago
Hey Dave,
"I've had real good luck with the Dynam A-10"
Wow, wow, wow... I think you are confused. The A-10 is from GuanLi, and I think that radio is crap. Your Extra 330 is from Dynam, and that radio is great. I have both.
I think you meant to reference your Extra 330, not A-10 when you were speaking of the Dynam radio?
thechoosendude 2 years ago
This is one video NitroPlanes won't be posting...
thechoosendude 2 years ago
umm isnt the a-10 from guialin?
hotblume 2 years ago
Ur videos r fucking halarious
OOUP!
Jakestg 2 years ago
Scratch build all the way, these factory planes that out on the market today just arent really ment to fly, to many of these factory models are coming out of the box unbalnced, with substandard parts and lousy radio's but heythey sure are ready to sell you spare parts at the hobby shop!
Makes you feel like they seen you coming.
NoobyRC 2 years ago 2
do you have a raptor thats somthing you should definitly show thats my dream to fly the F-22 the only plane ive piloted was a piperwarrior iii
jayworthenwhoa 2 years ago
You should build a F22 out of fomabard, it is so easy, and I have not seen a f22 that doesnt fly.
A foamboard F22 should really be concidered a trainer as well, mid mounted motor, and wide wingspan those things just float in the air.
cehc emn out onyou tube I just finshed mine when weather gets better im flying it
NoobyRC 2 years ago
This spit is jinxed :(
SexyToshi 2 years ago
#4 - If it flies like it's tail heavy - It is! Spitfires need a very forward c of g, they have a relatively small tailplane area and should be set up to have 'longitudinal dihedral', ie, nose heavy and the tailplane pushing the tail down. The Cassut 111M is the same. Personally, I'd set the c of g ahead of what the manufacturers recommend and go from there.
pete2778 2 years ago
- @4:30 i thought i heard the UPS truck with my flight simulator but its a truck or something at your house----my 2600kv with 30a esc and 11.1 lipo is on/off with the original radio -whats the fix? it was linear slow -fast with the original brushed motor
pudd750 2 years ago
i was wondering if you could test th fly zone stager wing beach craft
81394m 2 years ago
spitfire is the one of the most manuevering planes of ww.. this rc seems weird a lot. The fuselage is big, wings are small.. maybe this is why the rc/plane sucks.
IJariJuniorI 2 years ago
For it's size, the spitfire has a larger wing area than most other fighters of it's era. The Messerschmitt Bf109 has a far smaller wing area and a much higher wing loading. You need to do some research before commenting.
pete2778 2 years ago
and you should STFU. Dont compare 109 with spit. 109 like 190's are maded to b&z and high-speed combats, ofc the wings are way different than spit. I sayd in this MODEL, in THIS RC PLANE the scale dont seems to be accurate. So just stfu
IJariJuniorI 2 years ago
Your grasp of english is apalling, your knowledge of aerodynamics is poor, as for your manners...
STFU indeed. Prat.
pete2778 2 years ago 2
who cares about english? and you must learn something kid.. when you born I was getting my pp certification.. so please, grow up. Learn something usefull: respect the people and dont be like this kind of stupid "youtube teachers".. Obviously, you dont know NOTHING about aviation kid. - Just grow up and ask ur parents for some education and discipline.
IJariJuniorI 2 years ago
Kid? I'm older than you, you fuckstain. I'm also a professional mechanical engineer, a full size pilot, a model pilot and model designer. Now, start with your spelling, you're illiterate, then go on to learn more complex subjects.
pete2778 2 years ago 2
kid, ask your parents for some education ok?? and stop chase me... I dont fans, ty. :)
IJariJuniorI 2 years ago
"I don't fans"? That makes no sense. And you're telling me to get an education - I have one, as I said, I'm a professional mechanical engineer. You're simply pathetic, 'kid'.
pete2778 2 years ago
thts nice
angrygunsmith 2 years ago
Its almost like it was not test flown before mass production!
vanepico 2 years ago
you should have just made the video without the how to fix it part thats why they gave it to you so you can fix these problems for them if you know what i mean
bazrichi 2 years ago
Working with engineers I learned a big lesson, K.I.S.S.. Keep it simple stupid.
Those scale mark II under wing add-ons although look like nice for the plastic model buildier, is bad for small scale flying. Very true.
I'm sure many other design flaws where incorporated such as bad center of gravity, control surface design and throws, servos, esc, motor, etc. etc. etc... If you can fix this plane you are worth 5 engineers at the company that made it.
Ispintechno1 2 years ago
Need my Nightflyer fix. Looking foward for a new video. You get that Spitfire flying correctly. I think the plane was a bad design.
photobart1 2 years ago
nice vid.. i love ur planes u have so many u rock!11!!!!!!!!
musicmacgames34 2 years ago
This is your best video yet. It's really fun to see you talk about a plane that's *not* wonderful. I've been watching your videos for a while now and I really enjoy your reviews!
wavewash 2 years ago
I still have that P51 for trade lol...Great video Dave
burndoggy316 2 years ago
Good luck with this one Dave i think you're going to need it
hawk101000 2 years ago
great vid dave just like usual mate keep on goin with the vids
welsh1189 2 years ago
Dave, check the wing/ stabilizer incidence. My Skyartech Cessna was flying very much like your Spitfire, tip stalling, pitching, etc. I added a 3/32 shim at the back of my wing (it had positive incidence) and made a world of difference. With your wing not fitting to the fuslege properly, that could be altering the incidence. Wouldn't hurt to check.
garyshoaf 2 years ago
I'm real interested if you've come to any conclusions about this plane. Balance?
Dihedral? Wing shape not good for slow speed? (tip stalling). I would love to see you resolve the problem and be able to make this plane fly. (plus show the manufacturers you know your stuff!)
taofledermaus 2 years ago
i cud do with a new plane so i got one to day a plane with its landing gear that folds in its prity cool
redgaridose 2 years ago
owch that must hurt when it crashed it needs some bigger wings then it will glide .
redgaridose 2 years ago
sounds like you need an office worker with all those emails.
Cunninghamn8r 2 years ago
just wondering can anyone tell me how can you tell if you're getting radio signal interfearance. when flying..?
I fly in the park near a railroad, and some time my planes motor would stop or run on it's own.
oakland002 2 years ago
you can depends you probably are flying near a busy highway or something like that get a 2.4 radion no indterference not fm like your using
wef3838 2 years ago
Normally the model 'glitches', that's to say that it will make uncommanded manouvres, often this is temporary and whenever you experience a radio glitch, you should land immediately, pack up and thoroughly check the model on the ground. There's nothing less sensible than risking another flight or refusing to land when the radio signal becomes intermittent. 2.4GHz radios are helping to alleviate this these days although even they aren't perfect.
pete2778 2 years ago
Hi Dave
Loong time,, this plane did not looks to good to me,, i know your skills, soo this is nothing i runn and buy , lol
*****
JethBroh 2 years ago
dont worrie, your still the worlds best rc toy flyer
stanedblock 2 years ago
WOW, what a beautiful plane. such a shame it doesnt fly too well :/
zyoungson 2 years ago
Hey NightFlyyer, what a impressive collection of planes you have! nice!
I spent over 6 month with my Nitroplanes spitfire, to figure out how to make it fly as beatiful as it is. just like one of those Aces of Battle of britain movies. The spit is as beauty as tricky, you are right when I was setting center of G. and surface controls, it seems very unstable, but once you tune up properly it flys as a fine lady.
keep up the good videos. is cold up there, hua?
desertsuneagle 2 years ago
Yet another HONEST review, Dave. Kinda blows the "Hack for Nitroplanes" theory right out of the water, doesn't it? I hope the naysayers from the P-51 review will take note of this. I'm sending out your gloves today, I PROMISE! You're gonna love 'em!
SoCalsandman780 2 years ago
jsmbc101 2 years ago
when you gonna take that awesome P-80 back up? i asked a couple years back if you'd make a new vid of it.. still waitin!! ;-)
Jokerr6900 2 years ago
Now that i think about it this plane reminds me of a E-Flite Sea Fury plane I have. The wings are kind of the same design but I needed a ton of weight in the nose and the plane was extremely nose heavy for it to fly level. Maybe if you added more weight in the nose. More then you think you would need.
photobart1 2 years ago
Thanks. Still waiting.,,,,,,,,,
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Sorry, I don't mean that in any harsh way, but they're probably stocked with spitfires and if people were to spot out this video... then they'd have no reason to buy it leaving nitroplanes stuck with a pile of spitfires to burn.
ShadowxMaker 2 years ago
shame it looked nice and scale but performed like c$%# @~!!%$£ lol
i had a parkzone spit and it flew better than i could ever imagine a warbird could
i supose alot of testing and improvments a company makes to a model will determine the end products success
puggster 2 years ago
Thanks. Yep, they left something out on this one, but I havent figured out what it is yet. I feel I shouldnt have to, especially with an RTF plane. Thanks again,
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Such a shame as that did look he part Dave,i have a parkzone spitty if you remeber and she flies so well and also have just got the parkzone BF-109G and she has the two Closed off vents under the wing and she flies good to,so i think your bang on with why your spitty is playing up,well i hope you get it all sorted out soon ;-) 5*
startazz 2 years ago
Thanks. I appreciate that. Unfortunately, scaling down full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. I filled the nose with weight, to no avail and reduced throws as far as I could, to no avail,. Thanks for the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Looks like a bad design. I would stick with Parkzone for those kind of planes. They always fly great out of the box.
photobart1 2 years ago
All of my RTF planes did, except this one. All my parkzone models do too. This is simply a bad design
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Yeah, its turning out to be more of a kit that rtf!
Any luck with customer support yet?
popcornreviews 2 years ago
It looks beautiful but it flies like it has lead in its tail. Maybe the servos are throwing more then can be corrected? One thing that bugs me is the wheels seemingly don't fit that plane and the boots might be causing drag.
Liowen 2 years ago
Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. I filled the nose with weight, to no avail and reduced throws as far as I could, to no avail,. Thanks for the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
i want to buy one of those
ilikenarutoalot 2 years ago
Great, go for it and make sure to make a video.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Keep up the great work!! Thanks for the awesome reviews.
gsteve2000x 2 years ago
Thanks very kindly,
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
bummer plane my corsair from them kinda had the same crazy problems unfortunately i totaled it on the third flight after more adjustments lol great vid and love the real deal reviews.
bloodhound122 2 years ago
Sorry about the Corsair. Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. Thanks for the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Hope things work out for ya Dave,I figured that one would of been a keeper, looks like a nice plane.Looking forward for the results......................Bob
eggyhed 2 years ago
I thought so too, Bob. This one has a serious design flaw somehow, as it should fly great. Thanks for the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Wow... If you can't fly it, I don't know who can. You're one of the best RC pilots I know! The plane must really be a piece of trash.
jsmbc101 2 years ago 2
Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. Thanks for the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
u dont have alerons only front end flaps
r1b8 2 years ago
They call them ailerons in the instructions,
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
never seen wheel pants on a spitfire
rcplaneguy1 2 years ago
wheel pants looks betteer
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FreeTrafficSystems 2 years ago
your garage looks like my local hobby shop:P lol
how many planes and heli's have you got?:)
0TOM007 2 years ago
Dave, do you get all these planes free from the company, or at a great great discount? Because it seems like you have money comming our your ass to be making these constant videos with different planes, lol. Wish I had money like that.
JustPlaneRC 2 years ago
Hey watch your mouth
eamonnteh 2 years ago
No I dont get them all free. I do get a couple now and then to review, and get to keep them, but keeping junk and spending 10-15 hours to produce a video, is hardly worth it sometimes. This one especially.,
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Talk about tacky...geesh!
SoCalsandman780 2 years ago
i want to see you fix and fly it. if anybody can do it you know who can....NightFlyyer.
billgetsmail1 2 years ago 2
Thank god you told me this, i was about to buy one and i saw this! It freaked me out so i decided not to purchase anything. Thanks
seth364 2 years ago
Thanks. Too much work for an RTF plane.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
lol this plane sucks kinda =(
lawyers4life101 2 years ago
We know it's not pilot error. Dang thing flies like a 2x4! They should have made the spinner out of lead! Awesome video. I think you were very fair in your analysis.
taofledermaus 2 years ago
Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. Lead spinner. Ahhh, now I know were to add more weight. Thanks for the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Good to see honest reviews.
Hope you get that S?itfire flying LOL.
vsci79 2 years ago
Haha. Thanks. You heard it. LOL
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
so the controls are more "digital" than "Analog" just like a ps2 controller, D-buttons with no variation of speed
cruisingcody 2 years ago
I've watched quite a few videos of you flying, and i've never seen you crash, and you crashed twice in this video. That plane is no good. The only question is if your plane was defective or if they are all this bad.
nydrm90 2 years ago
Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. Thanks for the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
i realy wish it would have worked looks cool for the price
1stpimpking 2 years ago
Thanks. Me too.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
You garage is like the cave of Ali baba, for rc hehe.
kangsterizer 2 years ago
This one's a beauty but I wonder if you set it up on the DX6i if you might have better luck as far as trim goes. Maybe try some weight in the nose of the plane, it looks tail heavy. Great video and thanks for the review. 5/5
ssrc30 2 years ago
Yep, I added as much weight as I could fit in, and know it probably needs more. If that is true, it should have said that you have to add 6 ounces of weight to the nose and left a place to put it. DX6i should work, but I dont think I should have to do all this stuff that should be done for us, when buying an RTF airplane, you know. Thanks.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
I agree fully. There is nothing worse than spending money on something that is suppose to be properly built for you, just to have to fix the errors of the factory. Have you heard from Nitroplanes yet?
ssrc30 2 years ago
Thats unfortunate, pretty plane, but that girl does not take to the air very well. I think Parkzone and Art-Tech both have really impressive electric brushless Spitfires, I'm guessing nitroplanes doesn't carry them though.
You might be right about shaving off the radiator and covering the landing gear holes, but I bet that plane will still have the about the same control problems.
Ispintechno1 2 years ago
Unfortunately, scaling down a full size plane does not mean it will fly the same, especially with an unusual wing like this one has. I am guessing, you know and still feel that these handling problems should have been addressed at the factory, not after the consumer gets it. Thanks for the comments.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
That guy in the audience at the end cracked me up
alfwok 2 years ago
could i have one of your airplanes or helicopters, since you have so many! Ill give you my address and pay you 20 bucks for the shipping
stanedblock 2 years ago
The holidays are coming, why don't you ask Santa Claus to bring you one? I bet he will if you're a good boy! Dave may appear to be a jolly man, but he ain't THAT jolly! :-)
SoCalsandman780 2 years ago
wow ?? if you cant fly it nobody can.. gosh that looks hard to fly
MyChiggy 2 years ago
Thanks. It sure has challenged me.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
It looks to me like the design of the wings are faulty to RC specs. They seem to be too big and I think that is why you are getting these wild swings from little TX movement. The wings dominate the surface area looking at it from the bottom. Maybe it needs more aileron , maybe less... just speculative. Hope you can fix it Dave. Great vid 5/5.
freemind321 2 years ago
Thanks. I think it will eventually get worked out,but I also think that it should have been worked out at the factory, not after the consumer gets it,.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
Needs a better CG and a bigger vertical stabilizer.
RCFLIGHTHELP 2 years ago
True. I did not have anymore room to put in more weight, or I would have, and your right about the stab too. I think those things should have been worked out at the factory, not for the consumer to figure out, however.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
one of the guys at my field has a spitrire with i think a 4 foot wingspan and it flies awesome. btw it Is electric
flyinportopotty 2 years ago
duh yes it is as he said the BATTERY AND CHARGER are good
lukey546 2 years ago
There are many good models of Spitfires that fly nice, especially with 4 foot wingspans. Have him try this one, and you will see the same results, I guarantee it,.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
I'm interested to see what you can get out of her
pelagic6 2 years ago
thats too bad, i think that plane is not the best but that one is a lemon.
jmey107 2 years ago
Yep.,,,,nothing is 100% it seems these days.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
needs more tail surface area?
RoboTekno 2 years ago
Probably, but I think a RTF airplane should already have that worked out before a consumer gets it, you know.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
dang.. i hope it all works out dave!
speedstakerguy 2 years ago
man i no how that can be. i don't build r/c airplanes but i do build model airplanes quite frequently and i know that IT IS SO FRUSTRATING when a part doesn't fit or if a part isn't included that is necessary for correct function or for correct assembly. i usually pay around thirty bucks for a model but paying over a hundred dollars for something that doesn't function.. i can't imagine how frustrating that must be..
trxslashdriver 2 years ago
Thanks for relating to it. I appreciate that.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
well if anything fix it and hang it on the wall. it does look nice at least
riztar 2 years ago
Haha. That is true. It does look good.
NightFlyyer 2 years ago
We learn threw our mistakes AND/OR crashes and even if I don't have this plane I learned something new in watching you're video and that is the bit about checking COG with a low wing plane upside down. THANKS DAVE, hope you get her back in the air.
freemarlochip 2 years ago