Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau sings Kindertotenlieder 1

[phoenix4165]

I have these on an old LP and they are heart breaking. This man was the best. I am so glad I can still listen to the marvellous recordings he made.

[Ioannhsmiro]

thx for uploading

[TheVoiceWithinYou]

the quality sucks

[goodcatholicboy]

I'm glad my parents were immigrants from Ireland. I can simply enjoy the music.

[unclejuniorsoprano]

Fischer-Dieskau brings this Mahler to life. His voice & style of singing is truly unique. My other favorite of his ilk is Hakan Hagegard. If they could somehow be transformed into pianists, Fischer-Dieskau would be Rubinstein & Hagegard would be Emanuel Ax. I once read on the back of an album cover a description of Fischer-Dieskau's voice as being "eccentric." I presume that referred to his unique phrasings. Of my 1,000+ records, I don't have too many baritones to compare him to. He's the best!

[Beth29252]

A truly beautiful, haunting piece of music, sublimely sung by one of my all-time favourite singers. Hearing the orchestration alone makes me want to weep buckets.

[robertwbecker]

For me, personally, at this point in his career , he owned these songs and the "Lieder Eines Fahrenden Gessellen", Songs of a Wayfarer,,,,,,, so glad to be able to see and hear these on this post,,, thank you so much!!!!!!!

[franhola]

i can't believe he sings like this and smokes!!!

i'd like to have his voice

[robertvoice]

Tremendo. El barítono lírico o noble posee una voz de barítono extensa en la zona aguda y bastante ágil.

[eurydike]

after 30 secs i say , this is top singing:-))

[latoyalewis]

OMG ::melt::

[5InAnotherLand5]

My Lord! THAT'S HOW Mahler songs GOT to be sung!!!!!!!!!! Dietrich is truly the Voice of Germany!

[CrystalFlames]

it's funny because I clicked on this link on fb not knowing what the song was, and I was just listening thinking how much it sounded like Wagner (perhaps in the Wesendonck lieder), and I was like LOL it's Mahler. same thing. (not really, but Wagner was definitely an influence.)

[louwil65]

When I was working on my Masters in the early 90s I remember listening to him frequently. What a voice!

[KJElling0764]

Everyone please realize this has nothing to do with the Nazi's or political agenda in general. Gustav Mahler composed this piece after the death of his daughter, which is why it's so haunting. Also, the poetry is from the poet Rüchert, who I believe also had some of his children die.

[CrystalFlames]

@KJElling0764 actually, he composed it 4 years BEFORE the death of his daughter. Ruckert wrote the poetry when 2 of his kids died I believe. Mahler himself said he put himself in the place of someone whose child had died, but after she died he could not have written the songs anymore.

[KJElling0764]

@CrystalFlames Ah Thank you for correcting me. You are right.

[planthi80]

Bravo!

[celeluwhen]

Wonderful performance... Too bad the sound quality is not perfect.

[Barbapippo]

Wouls have it been so bad starting the lied from the first bar..? However, an incredible performance...

[kehwa]

Sounds like it was cut off for whatever reason.

[Chazzan805]

For all of you engaged in a debate that shouldn't have been brought up in the first place, Fischer-Dieskau was a member of the Hitler Youth, but a very unwilling member. As a child he knew right from wrong, and he got top musicians and conductors such as Furtwaengler (a Nazi himself) to interfere, but to no avail. If you want to start a discussion on the past do it on the pages of Schwartzkopf, Van Karajan, Knappertsbusch, Furtwaengler, and many others. In the meantime enjoy Fischer-Dieskau.

[MichaelMusician]

and Wagner :)

[milly1801]

Such dignity!!!!!

I wish we had more like him.

[spgtenor]

Every young singer should see this. Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau wasn't great just because he had a beautiful, rich voice with low notes of a bass and the head voice of a tenor. What made him great is his storytelling. His commitment to the lyrics and the character are an example for all to see- no phony hand gestures, it's all in the face. Wonderful!

[MegaUnloveable]

Sublime.

[chislehurstbat]

The loss of a child is the worst thing that can ever happen.... so much sadness.  This is a beautiful recording.

[LightoYagasamiSan]

das letzte 'dem freudenlicht der welt' hätte etwas weniger forsch kommen können ... aber das sind meine ansichten

ansonsten super einfühlsam gesungen !

[paminablue]

Who is the composer of this music? (Excuse me, please, for my lack of information)

[andresfRC]

The composer is: Gustav Mahler

[karamazovnew]

What does Dieskau have to do with that? Jeez, get over it. My jewish great grandfather died in a german death camp in 44, the same year that his romanian wife (step-great-grandmother) was to be gang raped twice by russian soldiers. I play Silent Hunter all day long in a german sub while listening to russian folk music. I'm anti-israeli, because of their Palestinian policy and my favourite battle of all times is Stalingrad. Stop turning history into propaganda by yourselves.

[antfreire]

No German today should be ashamed for what their parents and grandparents did in the thirties and fourties. They have nothing to do with it. Learn from the Russians...they don't talk about it.

[ranwnye]

@antfreire War is hell.There is nothing good about it, except it's ending.

[ranwnye]

Respond to this video War is hell.

[hildibildibaldi]

D F-D at his best. Yes sir!

[lagnaha]

sorry folks but could we return to the music which is why, presumably, we set up these sites?

[eurabio]

Beautiful as always Dietrich

[AnnaderWald]

Entschuldigen Sie mir bitte : ich verstehe französische Sprache nicht sehr gut...

Warum schreiben Sie, wenn ich gut verstehe:

Tränen der Seele, manchmal, den Himmel deutlicher zurückgeben ?

Das scheint so poetisch, so unwirklich zu sein...

[pasfresh123]

why is there so much distortion, so much screeching, like a radio that isn't quite on the channel.

[eimstudent]

I don't know why such beautiful music makes people think so much about politics... Thanks for posting this, I suddenly really wanted to hear it and here it was, so sad and sublime. Ah, the wonders of Youtube (and Mahler, and Fischer-Dieskau)!

[zamolxis7]

Those beautiful eyes!

[wartburg88]

For me, there is simply no better Lieder interpreter than DFG.  He is one of my top vocal heroes. The stoic passion that flows through his voice richly conveys the pathos of these Mahler pieces.

[sanjosemike]

Heshvan5699: Thank you for your heartfelt posts. Without question, Hitler was a DISASTER for all Germans. It is a pity that he was voted into power by (at the time) legitimate means. I don't know if your father or Grandfather's family voted to help put him into office or not...at the time, most Germans also felt that Hitler was the "savior" of "Greater" Germany.

Hitler also ordered the euthanasia of injured GERMAN soldiers. His evil was all-encompassing.

sanjosemike

[ifuliki]

I had a brother and uncles killed in both wars started by Germany. The strain killed my mother and destroyed my family .But that is all in the past and I don't think about it too much now. We have the EU & European wars are at long last a thing of the past. Let us celebrate the cultural tradition of Western Europe and not dwell on things that were but that cannot be changed,

Darddu ydy'n dod'

Spring is coming.

[Geierberzn]

@ifuliki:

well I don't agree that Germany alone started the first world war.

Furthermore I`d prefer personally to put Germany into central Europe (Mitteleuropa)

Bye

[usias22]

hi

There has not been the "Germany" or how you call it.

Its not the "US" .

Otherwise there would not be any difference between Obama and Bush.

But there is.

ALways wars have been started by the leaders of certain countries,

So no "Germany" started wars. Its just a lie.

[ifuliki]

Correct of course in saying that leaders start wars. However when we examine the support or lack thereof for a war in the general population we can ascertain whether the responsibilty is solely that of the leader. AT FIRST the general feeling in the USA was support for the invasion of Viet Nam. AT FIRST there was huge support for both the 1914 &1939 wars in Germany. Later of course

support evaporated. After the immense casualties in WORLD WAR I you'd think

Mein Kampf would be a warning.

[ifuliki]

I am a Brit living in Canada. I am aware of the crimes committed by British

generals in India and in South Africa. One British general was cashiered ie fired but there should have been others. Both personally and as members of a group or nation we have to admit error, if we are going to be taken seriously or if we seek to improve either personally or as a nation.

[usias22]

support in what way?

Tell me? Do you have facts or just arguments?

Man, you should study our history a lot better,

It were not the wars Germans supported,

At the time of WWI people stil supported the old system but not the war.

Please, dont simplify.

And at the beginning of WWII not a 10 percent of population knew about the HOlocaust. It was being held very secret.

you could walk through the whole country without noticing the what happened. And that has been the most crucial point.

[ifuliki]

You said, "And at the beginning of WWII not 10 percent of population knew about the HOlocaust. It was being held very secret." I ACCEPT THAT Wolfgang. Also I accept that Hitler was elected in a fair way but that he grabbed power. I also know that some Germans tried to get rid of him. However he wrote Mein Kampf which I read in translation and he made no secret about his plans for Germany or his hatred of the Jews. Well, you asked for facts. If I was German Hitler would not get my vote. Yours??

[usias22]

Let me make something clear.

My grandparents did not vote for Hitler. I m lucky to say that my family lived in Schlesien for nearly 750 years.

My whole line of ancestors, they all together have watched important men die, kings come and go and empires being formed and destroyed.

And they always have been very careful to not play political games. And Im glad for it,

[ifuliki]

Denying history does not change it. Neither Germany nor Britain are alone in their guilt. Examine the history of the Portuguese, Belgian and Spanish empires and you will find a shocking story of human degradation. Germany was perhaps fortunate in this since it did not become united until 1870 and in the few colonies it had for a short time Germans don't match the heinous crimes I mentioned before.

[usias22]

As I said. no one is guilty.

Its far too complex for historians to say this one is guilty and this one is not

So be honest your no historian cuz if you were you d be a lot more precautios with your judgement,

[ifuliki]

It is complex, I agree. M aybe I am not a good historian but it is hard to judge oneself. However historians are just people and some are cautious in judgment and some are not. Caution is not necessarily a job requirement for someone who studies, teaches or writes history as you seem to believe, I really do NOT see the connection.

[ifuliki]

Continued:I have a German Canadian ami and he too cannot accept that his ancestors did anything wrong. That is part of the human condition. I on the other hand as an exBrit know both the good and the bad things about the British empire and accept both as part of history. This is an intellectual leap some cannot make . I understand that.

You remind me of a movie about the mafia I saw where a young mafioso asked his lawyer what to say. The lawyer replied. "Deny, deny,deny and then deny again."

[usias22]

oh please, thats spoken polemicallly .-

Yes people in 1930 didmany things wrong. I accept that,.

But imagine the situation and imagine that at this time Antisemitism was normal to the majority of europeans.

It was not just Germany the bad germany being antisemitical. no . nearly all unsophisticated european hated Jews. Cuz everyone did it,

Thats why there is a stupid mass of people. And people are stupid again.

[Heshvan5699]

When I wrote that the Nazi General Göring ordered the bombing of the German city of Freiburg on May 10, 1940, to have a pretence for bombing Rotterdam and Coventry, posters from Holland, France, Britain and USA called me e Communist lier. My Grandfather lost his brother in this "friendly fire". Of course, saying these facts under Hitler regime would have meant Death! My Grandfathers often feared that Hitler would launch a similar attack with gas bombs. They didn't know that I was listening!

[sanjosemike]

moddlFL: Sorry, I can't agree. Dier Yassin, while regrettable, does not compare to the Holocaust. I am also aware of other stupid mistakes made by Israel, and I also regret them. Jews lived in the ME for 4000 years. They have a right and an obligation to defend themselves.

The weight of the Holocaust remains enormous against Germany. I too am sad for young Germans, who had no part in it.

sanjosemike

[Heshvan5699]

If you look at the comments to certain videos (war, especially air war, holocaust, Hitler Youth etc.) one can say that the majority of all these holocaust deniers and Hitler fans are NOT Germans. It is so frustrating to read postings from young Dutch, American, English, Canadian and even Polish and Russian boys who write: Hitler is our savior! I had to change my nick name several times because they threatened me on my channel. I know what Nazism was. I was a child under Hitler, I am a German.

[sanjosemike]

FlowerElectronics said: " the children of German will still be "guilty"...?

I understand your discomfort with that, particularly if you are German. There are still places all throughout Europe and the West where Germans (even young ones) are detested. I agree it may not be fair, but it is a fact.

You are fighting the verdict of history. No matter what you say, that history will bear against the German people.

sanjosemike

[mopplFL]

Then we are all guilty, sanjosemike.

Every Nation has blood on its hand, the Germans, the Russians (Stalin), USA (Hiroshima, Vietnam), France, Spain, Britain (colonization) and so on.

How long will you point with your finger at others, instead of give them your hand.

Thinking like yours produces prejudices, fear and hate. That doesn`t make a helpful contribute to international understanding.

[Heshvan5699]

I can understand your grief! I have lost my Father in the Nazi War when I was 11 years old. Sometimes I'm afraid to get crazy when I read the comments of young pro-Nazis of different nations. But it's the music of Mahler that gives me consolation. I could advice you to read the book "Mahler" by the Jewish philosopher Adorno.

The British composer Deryck Cooke has written a book about Mahler with all the texts of Mahler's songs in English. I'll bring the text of the first Kindertotenlied in E.

[sanjosemike]

FlowerElectronics: Read: History Upside Down: The Roots of Palestinian Fascism and the Myth of Israeli Agression--David Meir Levi

It's time for you to hear the truth from a recognized academic historian. The "charges" from Palestinians would be horrible if they were true. With the exception of Dier Yassin, they are almost entirely lies.

sanjosemike

[divadivo84]

I have never heard such uneducated comments as the nonsense you are putting up sanjosemike. Don't you dare tarnish this music, Mahler was a bent man but a genius none the less and anyone whose..well..anyone knows why he wrote this piece...Music History 2nd year my friend. read up.

[raelyz]

Muchas gracias por el vídeo.

Hispanohablante muy agradecido.

[sanjosemike]

You don't get it. Mahler himself was a converted Jew, because he saw no "future" for a Jew in music in Germany. I'm not criticizing Mahler. What I am saying, and I'll say it again is: "The guilt of the German people for the Holocaust will last for 1,000 years." If you're German, get used to it. And whether you like it or not, everywhere you go, people are thinking about it when you tell them where you're from...

sanjosemike

[macpaz]

lol you are the dumbest piece of shit I've seen in world history...

I'm black and I live in Germany and nobody asks me shit about Nazis when I'm in the U.S. so take ur stupid moronic generalizations and shove them right up your ass where they came from, idiot.

Every country has a certain war record. Look what Americans did to the natives. Look what they did in Japan, in Vietnam, Cuba.. Do you think this is something I think about when meeting an American in my country?

Whatever, you're retarded

[cybilsharp]

Rather sad to see all this stuff about people living now being somehow guilty for what their grandparents did... The great thing about Mahler - and DFD - is that their emotions are universal and the music shows how limiting any sense of racist superiority is. Let us just enjoy hearing a great German (DFD) singing the music of an even greater German (Gustav)....

[AnnaderWald]

Ja.

I do agree with you.

[FlowerElectronics]

So, even when everyone in any way RELATED to "the holocaust", as if that was in any way worse than any other genocide or atrocity of war, are dead - the children of German will still be "guilty"...? That's not going to happen. What IS already happening, is that YOUR fellow jews are murdering children TODAY. What about that? Do YOU feel guilty, as a jew? If not, why hell should a German, born decades after the war ended? The world is growing inpatient with the RACISM of jews and Israel.

[sanjosemike]

FlowerElectronics, don't believe the BS from the Palestinians. The Jews lived in the ME for 3200 years, at least 1,000 years prior to any tribes that called themselves Muslims. Israel exists because of that fact, not the Holocaust.

99% of the BS from the Palestinians didn't happen, and I can prove it.

sanjosemike

[FlowerElectronics]

"99% of the BS from the Palestinians didn't happen, and I can prove it."

There you go sounding like the nazis again.

But by all means, prove it. Prove that 99%

of what the Palestinians say are happening

is a lie.

[sanjosemike]

When the Arabs attacked in 1948, the Jews begged Palestinians to stay. Arabs told the Palestinians that "the Jews would be pushed into the sea." I am willing to admit that in Dier Yassin, the Jews did kill some unarmed Palestinians. It should not have happened, but honesty compels me to admit it. But this event, while terrible, does not mean that Jews stole the land. Jews lived there for over 3200 years. That said, reparations are DUE to Palestinians for lost properties.

sanjosemike

[Johammonia]

@sanjosemike:

Du mußt nicht die Nacht in dir verschränken,

Musst sie ins ew'ge Licht versenken!

Heil sei dem Freudenlicht der Welt!

[rascaplans]

Sanjosemike: I never thought there might be people like you, really. What you´re saying doesn´t make sense; actually you´re making racist comments, I mean by being against Germany, your´re being racist! That´s what it´s all about! racial discrimination! Don´t you understand the incoherence? Anyway, it´s got nothing to do with Fischer-Dieskau, has it?

[marispaulins]

Fischer- Dieskau is a standart for generations of baritons as a best chamber music interpreter and there is no doubt about that!

[DominikDrinkhahn]

what a crap you're writing sanjosemike! Seems to me some people always wait for the next occaision to confirm and explain the ultimate evil which for some must have it's roots In Germany. Mahler has less to do with evil, than von Braun and Einstein. It sounds self-evident beliving in that theory, but unfortunatly it isn't that simple. that's why it is a tragedy even 60 years later. I'm not guilty, even though I'm German. Try to understand how I feel with your statement sanjosemike!

[sanjosemike]

DominikDrinkhahn:

It's not about Mahler. It's about the death of children...Millions of them, murdered by your relatives.

It's not a load of crap. My Father-in-Law spent two months in Buchenwald. He just managed to get out (it was before the war started). Many of my own were murdered by your fellow countrymen in Auschwitz. It is quite simple really.

sanjosemike

[sanjosemike]

Oldavidlo: The Holocaust, as practiced by the German people were responsible for the greatest number of deaths of children. Why be astonished? Instead, visit Yad Vashem and see the Children's Memorial. The connection is obvious, Showa is the very best definition of Gemeinheit: Kindertoten to the nth degree..."A thousand years of German Guilt, for each new Generation."

sanjosemike

[sanjosemike]

How ironic that Mahler wrote this song cycle years BEFORE the Holocaust. It seems that only the Germans could have "mastered the science" of genocide to perfection. Other cultures have tried it and do so today. But only the Germans really "mastered it." They will bear 1,000 years of guilt for their "expertise."

sanjosemike

[oldavidlo]

What report between Mahler / Ruckert and the Holocaust??? read the translation of the texts of Ruckert, a father who wrote these poems after the death of 2 of his children... On the other hand, Gustav Mahler is born in judaique confession in Kaliště on July 7th, 1860, in Bohême. excuse my astonishment when you speak of Germans in these terms as well as of l ' Holocaust in this definite context!!!!...

[Heshvan5699]

Mahler's niece, Alma Rosé, directed the women's orchestra in Auschwitz. Her father, Arnold Rosé, was a famous violinist and a friend of Mahler. She was poisened in Auschwitz.

As for Mahler and the Germans, once he said: "I am a stranger everywhere. In Austria as a Bohemian, in Germany as an Austrian and in the whole world as a Jew."

It is true, that his symphonies have something of a prophecy of the terrible shoa. Imagine, if he had still lived in 1940/45! He would have been killed in a camp!

[jasonc001]

Hitler was Austrian.

[sanjosemike]

jason001: The culpability of Germans (and Austrians) in the Holocaust has been clearly and well documented: (Hitler's Willing Executioners--Daniel Goldhagen). Your comment is a B.S. "excuse" and is not acceptable. The virus of anti-Jewish behavior is alive and well in Europe and the ME, being the one true sociological pathology that has been consistently re-born throughout the ages.

sanjosemike

[Heshvan5699]

Mahler was:

1. Austrian

2. Jew

His sister Justine's daughter died in Auschwitz. Her father Rosé was a Jew. His daughter had to flee to Canada and was a British subject. When she wrote me a letter in 1984 she lived in Italy.

Did Mahler forget to ask for a "ANTI-Arierausweis"?

You should read comments to videos like "Bombs on Dresden". Nazis, not only Germans, but Americans, French and UK, wrote me threatening things on my Channels because I'm GERMAN antinazist. Had to change my nicks often.

[achinghunger15]

And what does that have to do with music. Just because he's German. I'm sorry but thats rediculous and shouldn't be brought up here. We are here to listen to music, not to discriminate against the composers because of their nationality

[oobleckboy]

Amazing, amazing, amazing. The greatest voice I have ever heard.

[paveljiracek]

thanks for that. but what a pity it is not from the beginning and in such a poor quality... but better than nothing, I guess. It is a great performance. Thanks!

[noleno]

To elkeonline, just a little correction. It is aufgeh'n and gescheh'n, not aufgehn and geschehn.

[planthi80]

one of the finest singers of the last century. listen to how dieskau discovers many of the varied nuances, shades and devlopes an understanding to the sorrow and depth of mahler mind and prophetic soul.

[Doromir]

I am amazed that there is so little of him on YouTube. Fischer-Dieskau is certainly one of the most recorded artist ever

[iupetre]

There used to be a video of him singing Der Erlkönig, but I'm unable to find it. Would you know?

[PoseidonRM]

There was a whole bunch of great Dietrich stuff and it all vanished. I am sad :(

[Classicvideofan]

Yesd its back you can find it now :-)

[elkeonline]

Nun will die Sonn' so hell aufgehn,

Als sei kein Unglück die Nacht geschehn!

Das Unglück geschah nur mir allein!

Die Sonne, sie scheinet allgemein!

Du mußt nicht die Nacht in dir verschränken,

Mußt sie ins ew'ge Licht versenken!

Ein Lämplein verlosch in meinem Zelt!

Heil sei dem Freuden licht der Welt!

[Heshvan5699]

Now will the sun as brightly rise

As though no evil befell last night!

The evil befell just me alone;

The sun, it shines for all alike!

You must not enfold the night within you,

Must in the eternal light immerse it!

A lamp has gone out in my abode!

Hail to the whole world's gladdening light!

[ice9fink]

muy excelente baritono y una obra un tanto tetrica =S tiene sus mitos de que quien la canta se le mueren los hijos como a mahler que despues se murieron sus hijos :S

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