HD6870 vs GTX460 1GB Crysis & Metro 2033

[sloma111]

insisde green shack 6870 makes above 80fps, 460 stops on 60 there. Open areas: gtx drops to 32fps, 6870 stays most times above 40fps. see?

[Moggaftw11]

6870 FTW!

[Jeffredo729]

A GTX 460 1GB with a maximum overclock and an HD 6870 with the same maximum overclock will be neck and neck in performance. The GTX 460 has a lot more overclocking headroom (about 30%) vs. the HD 6870 (about 10-12%). Both are good choices and if you don't or can't OC a video card the HD 6870 is the better choice (by about 15% with both at stock clocks).

[wangtaztic]

Good video. Im a poor boy so im just now getting a 6870 for a budget build. Due to arrive tomorrow. Got my fingers crossed i dont have to rma anything.

[gizmosense]

6870 is definitely can handle playing a pc game with max detail. Your screen showing an issue of tearing images @ 02:43, i guess you played it without Vsync. :)

[davidmrust]

is the gtx 460 256 bit or 192

[slentzz]

@davidmrust 1gb version is 256 but the 768 version is 192 i think

[davidmrust]

@slentzz kk tanks

[GamingShiiep]

@TimeToLiveCustoms hei how much centimeters (diagonal) do your screen has got?

[xmaxfactorx]

im getting this card! yay (6870)

[TheInvictusGamers]

HD 6870 Wins

[peppelesnar]

6870 whit overclock?

[TurkishHegemony]

@peppelesnar 6870 doesnt need overclock to win from gtx460 becoz gtx460 is older and low budget card now.

[jolle2121]

"That was my Chair, and not my Ass." Haha :D

[arjun10able]

i am planning to buy 6870 ..will my cpu bottleneck (intel dual core 2.6 ghz)???

[repo1012]

@arjun10able im no expert, but i think maybe, quad core is recommended for most games today

[RainNeo]

Unfortunately it will. I had core 2 duo at 3ghz and was very disappointed. Had to buy i5 2500K sandy bridge.

[arjun10able]

@RainNeo what if i overclocked Intel dual core 2.6 ghz to 3.2 ghz ?? Does it bottleneck after that??

[RainNeo]

@arjun10able Did not work for me. Tried to overclock everything. Performance of 6870 is only 50%. Firts it's the problem of your old motherboard, pci-e speed is too loo comparing to Z68 which I had to buy. And of course processor speed. Too low, too bad...

[arjun10able]

@RainNeo then plz recommend me a suitable graphics card for my CpU

[RainNeo]

@arjun10able If you have dual core it's a hard question. I had core2duo and was not enough. I suggest Nvidia GeForce GTX260. But if you wanna play new games like Battlefield 3 you must upgrade.

[arjun10able]

@RainNeo thx

[Eysc]

@arjun10able yes, and on what res. are u playing? the more the resolution the more the bottleneck

[arjun10able]

@Eysc 1400*900

[1ben2daan]

I'm going to buy the XFX HD 6870 Dual Fan! =D

I got: QuadCore i7 3,4Ghz, 8Gb Ram, 550W Power Supply, 500Gb HDD & 1T HDD, Club3D HD 4670

With my new Gpu i finally can play games at highest settings i hope :$

[SemihAO]

05:51 left side of monitor.Beautiful "smoke effect" :D

[FellTheSky]

@AffeBlitz haa, video cards are really cheap in eeuu, here in argentina, gtx cost 260$, and 6870, more than 300$. But, does 6870 performs well on phisx? Im no gefanboy, but im interested in buy one of these twos,

[Palillos1337]

@FellTheSky amd cards do not use physx. so no.

[FellTheSky]

correct me if im wrong but....

isnt Hd 6870 more expensive?? :S

it really not seems like a fair comparation

[GameAdminXL]

@FellTheSky in germany: gtx460:~146 hd6870: ~150

[kakaldo11]

detals?

[CactusPresident]

that was my chair not my ass lolz

[kratostrejo]

80 fps!!!!!! awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rejohapo]

or go to ati.com and you will be redirected to amd

[martinhiebert]

haha "thats the chair not my a##" 

[darknight651]

Amd for best graphics card,intel for cpu.nvidia for 3d.

[CloakedRhombus]

does that card only require one 6 pin connector?

[vegasx9]

@CloakedRhombus 6870 requires 2

[crules99]

i had evga gtx 460 se and within 7 months it crashed....so no more evga or nvidia. iam thinking to buy HIS radeon 6870....i wanna know that is it better than my last evga gtx460 please help....

[denidz94]

GTX 460 SC (Super Clocked Edition) THE BEST

[NINJApenguinCHIMP]

You have my monitor.

[cblt2007]

So I'm building a computer. Pretty sure this is what I'm going to get.

1. 250 fb hard drive 6.0gb/s.

2. 8gb ram ripjaw x series.

3. Amd phenom ll x4 965 3.4ghz

4. 500 watt power supply cooler master

5. The gtx 460 super clocked edition

6. 990xa ud3 mobo

7. Cooler master 922 had mid tower case

8. DVD- super multi drive

What do you think?any tips/suggestions? This is my first build...

[TheLazyUnicorn]

@cblt2007 650w psu incase u ever upgrade

[BIGBOE133]

@cblt2007 definetly go with a gtx 560 or gtx 560 ti. this will save you in the long run because the gtx 560 ti can fully max out battlefield 3 and will play games smooth much longer than gtx 460. hope this helps

[posavinamajka]

i saled my shit gtx 460 today and i buyed me a hd6850 vtx x edition...its a really good card...with the gtx 460 i havent only problems...amd rules

[Landak36]

i have HD 6870 and i really love it. AMD FOREVER! :3

[3Target33]

@Landak36 if the 6870 is as awesome as you say, how much awesome would a 6970 be?

[Landak36]

@3Target33 Maybe you should bought the HD 6990 the fastest GPU. LOL :D

[3Target33]

@Landak36 lol, the 6990 is around $800 in Australia and the 6970 is $350 ;)

[Landak36]

@3Target33 Yeah i know it. But if you want the awesome GPU go on HD 6990. *im kidding. XD HD 6970 is really nice. :)

[Stasiok]

@Landak36

6870 is ATI, not AMD!

[Landak36]

@Stasiok You are fooled! Ati company now has combine wth AMD. Go AMD.com and you will see it AMD Radeon series.

[vegasx9]

@Landak36 ATI was never independent, they've always been a branch of AMD

[Gaaratuning]

@Stasiok

AMD bought ATI '-'

[Xmascool98]

@Stasiok

AMD is ATI !!!!

[salisisasi]

@Stasiok but the company is from AMD

[Eysc]

@Landak36 i want to buy one for 220 bucks, now i have an e6700 @3.6 and a 500w power supply its that enough to the card????

[Landak36]

@Eysc its enough for the normal rig. But, if you like to add some accessories or wanna do for CFX i recommend for you 600watt. Check this minimum psu wattage on amd.com. :)

[FireSqy]

@Landak36 I think I going to put 6870 to my future (close future) PC :) (so good to hear that you love it :D)

[NoNameSpeedrun]

HD 6870 winner

[12345678966666669999]

6870 wins :D

[Megatron5435055]

That was my chair and not my ASS :p LOL LOL

[rockrl98]

the 6850 run's more quiet 

[MCB400100]

@4232267 what do u mean by 2.66Ghz u were still talking about the processor? (sorry my english is bad and Im just starting to get into computers) And what do u mean by optimized gaming, that u can run games at higher graphics? And how many difference between 8800gt and 550gtx ti?

[MCB400100]

@4232267 Yeah I know, but I dont really know alot about computers. But I do know that my processor isnt that good but it can handle a 8800gt, so I thought it could handle a 550gtx ti, so i dont know if a powerful videocard like the 560 is a good deal for me

[B0MP127]

i have the same samsung screen :D:D:D

[giovanny153]

@B0MP127 cooooool :D :D :D

[MCB400100]

@4232267 i figured out that the 460 is just as good as the 550gtx ti and idk about the radeon

[MCB400100]

can people give me information about the 550gtx ti? is it better than these cards?

[TheYTChronicles]

@MCB400100 I know the 560GTX TI is slightly better, get that. Only about 20 quid more than the 6870 which I got.

[Puzkajuzzi]

That cooler looks badass ^^

[wannabetyouarefat]

would an AMD phenom II x4 945 be a bottleneck for this card?

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat You should get at least 955 or 965. It might bottleneck.

[wannabetyouarefat]

@TugUnboxings How about some serious OC'ing?

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat Yes it helps, but for serious overclocking you need high quality aftermarket coolers and you need the advanced knowledge. Do you have both things ?

[wannabetyouarefat]

@TugUnboxings Some basic oc skills, yes. Recently boought a new fan too, don't recall the name. single fan, aluminium heat sink and really fucking large (about twice the size of the stock cooler).

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat Ehehe :D If you think that you're cappable of overclocking it, go ahead and the chances of bottleneck will be reduced :) I'm soon going to buy cooler master hyper 212 plus for my cpu cooler.

[wannabetyouarefat]

@TugUnboxings you think a 4ghz OC will be ok on this thing?

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat I think you are pushing it a little bit , what's the stock speed ? 3Ghz?

[wannabetyouarefat]

@TugUnboxings correct, but keep in mind i have one big ass cooler..

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat Yes i agree with you , you have a realy kick ass cooler. Try this , overclock it first to 3,5Ghz and check out your temps. If they all run good on idle try some serious gaming and watch the temps again. If they are too high downcrease the overckock. If the temps are all good just go for some amazing 4Ghz. I have faith in you haha :D

[wannabetyouarefat]

@TugUnboxings :P thanks, but what about voltage increase? How many 100th of a volt should i increase for such a hu-huuge OC?

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat I'm not sure , but just increase it a little bit everytime you try to overclock it so you get sure it won't burn. High voltages are deadly in a CPU.

[wannabetyouarefat]

@TugUnboxings i know, but in my BIOS i get something called "overvoltage", i can increase this by pressing "+" , so and then i'd get something like V 1.05, V 1.0525 ect.... Does this mean my processor get 1.05 volts or that my voltage is increased by 0.05?

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat It means that your voltage has increased 0,05. Be very careful. But if you have some money to spend just buy a new CPU :) Like a 965BE for example.

[wannabetyouarefat]

@TugUnboxings ok... just in case, what IF my voltage turns out to be 1.05 (almost 0.5 volts under stock), am i fucked then? Can i change it back somehow or will my system not even be able to boot up.

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat It's as simple as this, if you get the multiplier on 4Ghz you will increase the voltage just a little bit. The system will boot , and if it doens't work there will be a screen telling you that the overclock failed and the system goes back to default. The system won't just boot if you "cook" the cpu :D Which is unlikely with your giant cooler :D

[wannabetyouarefat]

@TugUnboxings Ok, there's just this one problem. My multiplier only goes to 15, so 15 x 200 = 3000Mhz.

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat Can't you just type ? In my bios i write the number that i want...

[wannabetyouarefat]

@TugUnboxings nope :(

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat Well try to switch any option to manual and then try to chose a higher multiplier..Hope this helps mate :(

[wannabetyouarefat]

@TugUnboxings i CAN NOT get the multiplier higher than 15!!

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat Maybe because your cpu is not unlocked ?

[wannabetyouarefat]

@TugUnboxings ehhm... what?

[TugUnboxings]

@wannabetyouarefat Some cpu's are locked... This means that they can't be overclocked... The unlocked cpu's (for example corei7 2600k) are allowed to be overclocked... Example the corei7 2600 can't be overclocked but the corei7 2600K version can.

[shotgunsam666]

@wannabetyouarefat no

[wannabetyouarefat]

would an AMD phenom II x4 945 be a bottleneck for this card?

[mccclarren]

i remember when i got this game and not knowing much about pcs tried to run it on a nvidia 6150 le what a shitty expeirience 

[fanoffarmville]

You sound like a robot!

[TheBlackIdentety]

@Sparx936 Well why do you think I said gtx560ti 2gb? I know that most have only 1gb memory wich is already insufficient for some games.You are correct about the psu though.You'd need a 600W psu for an sli setup.If you plan on overclocking then good quality one.

[TheBlackIdentety]

@Sparx936 The 560ti has more cores and faster memory.Pair that with 2gb memory and the ability to OC to 1Ghz and you have your self a very future proof card.In sli they beat a single 580 easily for a cheaper price.

If I'd be buying a desktop now I'd get the 560ti 2gb in sli.

[96stewie96]

would a 6870 work with this mobo H-ALVORIX_HF-RS880-uATX

[SgtSkullFog]

*crysis warhead anyway but still nothin different in grahpics...

[SgtSkullFog]

.......i can run gamer settings with no aa on crysis with max rez with 45 constant fps...

....i dont think im going to buy this card now...

[tavi921]

i'm plannng on geting the asus gtx 560 directcuii the 1gb version and i was wondering if that's a fairly good investment

[TheBlackIdentety]

@tavi921 If you have the budget then get a 560ti 2gb. That should be able to take anything high-max till the new consoles come out. So basicly for the next 2-3 years.

[TheBlackIdentety]

@tavi921 If you have the budget then get a 560 ti 2gb. That should be able to take anything high-max till the new consoles come out. So basicly for the next 2-3 years.

[bobfaez]

@TheBlackIdentety NOOOOOO!! Get 2 560's for $340! Over 20% better than the GTX 580!

[TheYTChronicles]

What were your settings for Crysis in this video? Apologies if you said it, but I just couldn't find it.

[MiyoSnipah]

what program does he use to check his ms/ping like that in top left corner of his screen when gaming? thanks for any reply!

[crasyfresh]

what is the name if the RAM ?

[MagicalFlump]

@crasyfresh Mushkin Radioactive RAM

[eaglegaming]

that was my chair, NOT ma ass XDDDDD

[TheDiego1255]

Guys this all great but, being a noob. Can someone explain frame rates to me? I kind off dont get it.

[MrScrubbys]

@TheDiego1255 The higher the framerate the smoother you game is Most games with v sync on lock at 60 fps so if you get 60 fps or around there is generally pretty good but the higher the better :)

[TheDiego1255]

@MrScrubbys Thats what I wondered :L if higher is better :D thanks its making sense now :P

[randomness711]

@TheDiego1255 think of it this way, your gpu is taking acting photos of whats happening on screen. and if you say have 5 fps that means its taking 5 frams a second. witch is more like a slide show than a game. but 60 frames is seamless and you cant notice any studder. the human eye generally runs at 40 frames

[TheDiego1255]

@randomness711 yea dude that what i thought man. It's kinda obvious fps ps is always per second like RPM per min. Thanks though explaining the the 60 frame part etc thx again man

[TheSkittlesNerd]

@joholj1204 What was the point of that comment I think you are a liar since you wouldnt get 2x frames with that card crossfired you would get plus 20 tops

[FlyingLaptop]

3:43 Wow, nice kill! Oh, I meant as in the physics... cause he wasn't able to shoot you... so that wasn't a fair fight, but nice physics kill! It's like if you were to run around and then get shot at, your still running then, so it's all cool and stuff.

You might say I lacked since there, but I said it...

[joshua99999999]

dont require as much GPU power so the HD6870 would handle them games even better than crysis :P

Thanks alot again for making the vid :D - Subscribed :P - And I want to get an I5 4.60 Ghz OC processor with 8GB DDR3 Ram =) - So I will be happy at christmas when everything is cheaper and new things come out xD - I will be happy ^.^

thanks mate :P - subbed again =)

[joshua99999999]

Thanks alot for the uploading of vid mate :P - I'm hoping to get a HD6870 1GB DDR3 graphics card at christmas this year - at the moment the Pre-order price for the newer version of this (Same model number) is £119.00 so that isn't bad at all - and beats my trust 4850 OC :P - and I love crysis and since I know crysis demands alot of GPU power out of rigs then I know that with a nice 30-40 fps would handle nicely - maybe even add a couple AA ;) -

And also since I love other games too but they

[mast3rmgl]

Guys what's a good gpu for around 200 bucks NVIDIA or amd no 6870 or gtx 560 thanks in advance

[toobgroningen]

@mast3rmgl XFX Radeon HD 6870 (black edition with a little more mhz) runs things alot better then the 560. It's 189 euro's here. But i'd go for that one m8.

[stavit2]

Holy shit rampage

[poderzim]

i have gtx 460 msi talon attack and i can get 40 fps in metro 2033 in max settings

[ManitheGamer21]

@poderzim i have with my gtx 590 50fps! you have with a gtx 460 15fps at maxxed

[supermastater]

@ManitheGamer21 I can get 50 fps on hd 6870 on max settings with 4 gb ram core i7 and 550 psu. I cant understand why people buy expensive cards with the same performance like on hd 6870

[Zillamp3z]

are the ram actualyl radioactive

[mastererik323]

@Zillamp3z they're powered by uranium

[YouPuzz100]

1 question... why when i play gta 4 with this card i have good fps and after 25 min. it drop to low fps and then it goes back up to good fps? sorry my bad english

i've got phenom 2 x4 955 3.2ghz

4gigs ram 1333mhz cl9

asus m4a88td/m-evo 3.0usb

amd radeon sapphire hd 6870

[zodiac868]

@YouPuzz100 GTA 4 has a terrible memory leak, it has nothing to do with your hardware, it's just a terrible console port.

[ImperatorMedia]

lol u didn't want to blow stuff up near you just because the frames would go lower then 30 with the gtx 460...

[DeliriousSam]

is the GTX 460 better than the HD 6850?

[galaxy366]

Same screen as mine ;D. And the same 6870 card :). But I overclocked to 1000/1250

[ZmyhayZ]

the gtx460 dont like 30fps only below =6870 better

[ZmyhayZ]

but how about a hd6950 vs hd6870???

[crazy88boss]

@ZmyhayZ No question dude: The 6950 is much, MUCH stronger than the 6870. 6870 is a bargain card, hense its very low price point. It is not as powerful in some cases as the 5970, though it does have a very fast core clock.

[siccmadegames]

5850 ftw

[amolyoko]

Who wins?

[dkL33T]

@amolyoko HD 6870, but i don't think this is a fair battle between the two. more fair battle would be a GTX 560 vs. HD 6870.

[dkL33T]

@amolyoko or a GTX 470

[TIZ012]

ok so HD6870 is a bit better than GTX460 especially in Metro2033. At least thats what it looked like from the results?

[shadowk33]

@Frischkaesegurke OK TY

[shadowk33]

@Frischkaesegurke yeah i will buy one 600watts but and i will need 2pci-x 6pins?

[bankaikun94]

shouldnt the 6870 be compared to the 550Ti?

[vacil0]

You're using SSD there?

[shadowk33]

so 6870 is better than 460gtx?

[1anaken]

@shadowk33 yes

[shadowk33]

@1anaken omg lol ok

[shadowk33]

@1anaken if i will buy 1 6870 what psu i would need?

[1anaken]

@shadowk33 Ah yes. um idk. if u mean processer then a amd x4 960

[shadowk33]

@1anaken no i mean power supply but i have processor intel core 2 quad q8400 2.66ghz so?

[shadowk33]

@1anaken are you sure you dont know ?

[1anaken]

@shadowk33 idk what u mean by psu

[MaleBosszz]

@1anaken PSU = Power Supply Unit i assume you already know that since this comment is 1 day old...

[1anaken]

@MaleBosszz i know now.

[MaleBosszz]

@1anaken Okay nice.

[Martinntoxx]

What's the map you used on Crysis?

[gazzxr]

who ever tells me Nvidia is better than ATi i'm guna slap them in a face for being a dumbass

[Fass47]

I bought the Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB OC Version with my new comp , And every game i play with 1280x1024(my monitor dont support higher) with AA and Highest settings on, i have over 60FPS. I have played: Homefront, Crysis 2. Total War: Shogun 2, Dead Space 2,

[TheXordinary]

@Fass47 Thats a crap reso

a freaking 8800 GTX could do the same job at that reso

[INY79]

the 6870 is in a league of its fucking own for a tenner more :)

[durjoymukherji]

u said in the video that viewers would moan at u for playing at gamer settings.....and they have every fucking right to....

how the fuck can u compare 2 gpus by playing at gamer...knowing that both of them can support these graphics at high fps......if u played at max...1 of em would have lagged more than the other...thereby making our choices easier....

the fucking OBJECTIVE of the video was comparison...not to have a good time playing a game @ low graphics with high fps damnit

[crippled82]

What to expect from such a card on a C2D E8400?

[marfg12345]

@crippled82 well yeah, he needs a good 4 core cpu

i have q8400 OC to 3,4GHz with a hd6870 and it runs 35-60fps, never dips below 35

[Allgameszogger429]

gtx 560 is better then the hd6870, right ??!

[gabrocki]

@Allgameszogger429 im not sure