Joy Nash (A Fat Rant) & Kelly Bliss Debate Meme Roth

[skater251993]

I fucking hate fat people. srs. Time for genocide.

[MessageToCherry]

gah... what a meanie >__<

[kelli51]

Where this Meme person is getting her information! The statistics she is spouting are not correct. Those who have the highest life expectancy (79.7 years) are those who are between 26-28 BMI (Overweight to obese) The BMI chart is not based on healthy statistics. The "Normal" BMI was determined by Pharmaceuticals and the Diet industry. When will we wake up and stop listening to government (politicians) recommendations!

[jeepinGAboy]

Fatties gonna fat

[kellybliss]

@jeepinGAboy , Yes, I agree with you. Once a person has become fat (a characteristic, not a character flaw) they have over 90% chance of remaining fat. However, anyone of any size can eat healthier and add enjoyable activity to their lives. Building a healthy lifestyle will benefit health, whether the person is fat or thin. Yes, fatties gonna fat ... and healthy is gonna health - at every size!

[NewberYou2ber]

I agree with this to an extent. Whenever I'm on birth control I gain 15lbs and I can't lose it no matter what. I hate it. But I have to be on bc right now (for hormonal reasons). Buuuut, you don't get obese from eating healthy and working out. you may be a little large or chubby, but unless you have a ssssserious condition (which most obese people don't) you WILL NOT get OBESE or super big from eating healthy and working out.

[kellybliss]

@NewberYou2ber -- I have been working in plus size fitness and healthy eating for all sizes for 30 years. EVERY SINGLE VERY LARGE PERSON I KNOW HAS A HISTORY OF DIETING THEIR WAY UP TO HIGHER AND HIGHER WEIGHTS. When a person is large and they continually diet, then they weight cycle gaining more weight after each diet.

When we focus on health at any size, we will improve our health. However, we have no guarantee of becoming lean. There are MANY fat people with healthy lifestyles!

[MonaRocks09]

wow the fat lady pwned the blonde lady's life

[johnsmdm]

meme kill them....fat police...cameras...bug the phones...

[selectivexhearing]

I'm just throwing this out there, but I'm 5'4" and 130lbs and I have really terrible cardio. I'm not healthy even though I'm pretty thin and I know some bigger girls can outrun me.

[TheConcealedWeapon]

Obesity is an epidemic, but so is anorexia. MeMe Roth is pro-anorexia, not anti-obesity. A fat person who eats well and exercises is healthier than a thin person who smokes cigarettes, eats junk food, and is inactive. Focusing directly on weight only promotes anorexia. Those who luck out and don't become anorexic still have major self esteem issues.

In my opinion, Joy Nash is extremely hot, and MeMe Roth looks like she'd fall to pieces if I touched her.

[Kamkam112211]

@lanegwyn

You are amazing! Thank you for at least speaking the truth. Being a man of larger size, I have been a vegiterian for a good few years now. But still I am large. It is good to see someone is kind in this world.

[ElectricShark]

You are such a polite and kind woman.

If the average person was up there with Meme Roth, she'd have two black eyes and missing teeth.

Kelly, you are a class act.

[Dannan1989]

I'm fat. I'm bigger than Joy.

A couple of months ago, at my results check up, I pretty much horrified the nurse.

How?

Because they were all HEALTHY and NORMAL.

You'd be surprised how uncomfortable even those in the medical profession get when a fat person is proven to be healthy. THAT is the prejudice here. THIS is a problem.

[CanadianQueer]

I don't care who the hell you think you are; if you make assumptions about a person's lifestyle and dietary habits based on their weight, you are acting like a rude, prejudicial shit. Joy said she works out about twice a week. That's twice more a week than I do, and I'm about 100 pounds lighter than her. Does that mean I'm "healthier" than her? Fuck no, but no one would even think to "worry about my health" because I'm thin. Meme's blather = bullshit.

[pinkbagels1]

I worked in a nursing home as a nurse assistant. It was astounding to me how many centurians were overweight. The frail, skinny ones rarely lived long into their nineties

From what I've seen, genetics is almost exclusively a factor. We are all built in different shapes and sizes--just being skinny does NOT mean you are healthy.

Exercise and diet are important and should be a part of our daily lives, but that doesn't mean you're going to become the skinny stick society wants you to be.

[Kerkren]

I've been skinny and I've been fat. My weight goes up and down. Nobody's business, really. I was a skinny little kid. I have giant biceps from walking on crutches for 2 years. It is very hard to get rid of muscles. I like my muscles because I know if I had to I could punch out the nasty skeleton people.

[havasuroger]

I Notice that MeMe Roth who says I am lucky she is sticking her nose into what my kids eat wears a lot of make up and hair dye and provocative clothing. Coming from law enforcement I can tell you that if she toned all of that down she would greatly reduce her risk of sexual assault. Would she be lucky if I made it my passion to scrub all that make up off and put her in a burka? hurry up Meme it's barf time.

[havasuroger]

I Notice that MeMe Roth who says I am lucky she is sticking her nose into what my kids eat wears a lot of make up and hair dye and provocative clothing. Coming from law enforcement I can tell you that if she toned all of that down she would greatly reduce her risk of sexual assault. Would she be lucky if I made it my passion to scrub all that make up off and put her in a burka? hurry up Meme it's barf time.

[AlanHeartsong]

#1 - size has no bearing on beauty, because beauty comes in all shapes

#2 - weight (under or over) *may* have an impact on *some* disease risk, but being thin isn't the end-all be-all, or the super-thin vegan marathon bicycler at work wouldn't have dangerously high cholesterol, increasing his risk of heart attack

#3 - part of the reason Joy Nash's message works is in the delivery - short and to the point, plus she's gorgeous.

[tnwar330]

OMG who is allowing that crazy deranged unhinged woman AKA meme roth, to be on tv and actually speak like she's an expert on ANYTHING?!?!

[darklordbbw]

I like bigger girls and i think thers no probem with a girl being overweight. i dont discriminate by size.

[SOBEKsRAINBOW]

I hate how society judges bigger women yet men get a free pass.

Our society is so sexist!

[QueenBoudiccea]

It's ridiculous how cruelly our society judges women's bodies. I can't tell you how differently I'm looked at now that I'm not starving myself. I was extremely attractive to a lot of people while I was dying. Now that I've returned back to what I consider the weight my body prefers, I feel like I get a lot more crap.

It's worth it, though. I'll live longer haha.

[QueenBoudiccea]

I am so sick of this fat hate thing. I'm just a few pounds over what the BMI considers a '"normal weight", and this is after gaining 40 pounds. I used to be extremely thin, because I was extremely eating disordered.

[QueenBoudiccea]

I'm so glad there's a bit more sense on this video. Go to MeMe Roth's channel and it's censored out all the people who disagree with her insanity.

[str8doinyurmom]

Bravo!!!! thank you for standing up for principles - and she made an excellent point... you can not tell if some one is healthy at first glance based on outward appearances... there's hella lazy skinny people... and what about the bolemics!

Me, personally "the average\petite" just doesn't cut it... i loves me so thickness... :c ) , for sooo many reasons... yeah, and prejudice sux ace!

[w7j93w0]

The fat bitch on the left is a moron. Anyway, There is NO FUCKING REASON to be fat. Unless you have some super fucking disease, EVERYONE CAN be skinny if they try hard enough. Being fat is NEVER healthy. You can't walk as far, you have a greater risk of diabetes (Misspelled?) And heart complications. Just because A skinny person such as me can eat a bunch of shit and not gain 200 pounds doesn't mean I'm more unhealthy then a fat-ass that eats salad. Skinny is healthier,& anorexica doesn't count

[Rycon973]

Fat people need to accept what they are and start exercising and living right! It's NOT ok to be fat. It'd unhealthy and disgusting to look at.

[kellybliss]

Hello Rycon973 ,

Can you see in your comment that you have assumed all fat people do not exercise or live right? You have. This IS the prejudice. It is based on a popular myth that anyone who has a healthy lifestyle will be thin. The truth is that BOTH thin and fat people have unhealthy lifestyles -and - BOTH thin and fat people have healthy lifestyles. And yes, everyone of every size should continue on their journey toward healthy living.

Kelly Bliss

[zev007]

@Rycon973 Rude people need to accept what they are and start keeping the garbage in their head! It's NOT ok to be rude. It is ok to be fat. It's not hurting you and if you don't like it, stick your head in the sand and don't go out if you can't handle it.

[BebaDK]

@Rycon973 That's not the truth. I exercise 4 times a week and I walk every day. I don't eat sugar at all ( even not in tea, I don't drink coffee, I do not smoke ), I don't eat bread ( I don't like it ), I eat meat 3 times a week, i eat lots of veggies and fruits only in the morning, I have 5 smaller meals during the day, I never eat after 8 and I go to bed about 11.30, I sleep at least 8 hours and I am still bigger! I don't have hight cholesterol or triglicerides, but I do have PCOS.Judge more?

[jaebcommakayla]

@Rycon973 if its disgusting to look at....

dont look? jesus mind your own god damn business

[GamingQueen88]

I'm a big black girl, I always have been. I was born with PCOS. I'm a belly dancer, very attractive, never been an overeater, and catch more men (prodominantly asian, latin, italian) than most thin women. Meme Roth is psycho attention whore who needs her ass whooped. Quit lowering self-esteem bitch, you're making people get even bigger.

[ElectricShark]

Kelly Bliss, you're a great, intelligent woman.

Why appear on a worthless TV channel like Fox News?

Why give that desperate-for-media-hungry-for­-attention Meme Roth what she wants?

She wants attention.

Don't give it to her. C'mon, Kelly! You're a smart, great woman!

You can appear on better channels with better people!

[TuRdSandwitch18]

i like the way the fat bitch is an expert on fat people and her statement is BULLSHIT

[girrrlychild]

a person who is heavy may be in the process of changing their lifestyle to lose weight. you don't go from being 100 lbs overweight to skinny as soon as you decide to eat healthy and exercise regularly. and she's right - there's a correlation between certain diseases and being overweight....but that doesn't automatically mean the illness came from being overweight. and it certinaly doesn't mean that every overweight person is going to end up with diabetes or having a heart attack.

[MaiaRikae]

According to what Meme said in an interview about her eating habits, she's actually anorexic. That's not healthy in my book.

[nobcheesy]

yea but who would you rather fuck - MeMe or those fat women?

[kellybliss]

This is Kelly Bliss here. I teach between 4 and 8 aerobic / weight training classes a week. I walk another 10 miles per week. And I bike another 20. OK, lately my bike needs repairs so I am walking about 20 miles a week. I am not abnormal. Many people of many sizes exercise regularly. When people live healthy lifestyles, there STILL WILL BE SIZE DIVERSITY. Your assumption that all fat people are sedentary really is a prejudice.

[RachelHC]

Kelly...Thank you for arguing with this weight bigot. I'm a "moderately obese" vegetarian who works out 3+ times a week, and consistently have healthier blood pressure than my "healthy weight" friends, (keeping in mind that high blood pressure is "statistically linked" with high weight).

You are awesome.You and Joy have helped me and my mental health more than you can know!

[LaurelKath]

@kellybliss Thanks you! I am a vegan and I walk miles and lift weights everday! I am considered HEALTHY by my Doctors! Even if they say I am overweight, and obese. But I have NO health problems (Unless you count some anemia) whatsoever, yet I still get this prejudice, and people feel like them have to be mean and think I'm unhealthy. Hello, I'm vegan? I gave up like 60% of American diets right there.

[HeyItsLilian]

i love what you said SteeLotus

[ragan1000]

I am a size 18. I am very active. I eat health and exercise. I have to be on medicines that affect my metabolism plus I have an underactive thyroid. Don't make assumptions based on a person's body size.

[canonvox]

bullshit. You are fat and lazy.

[Balldez]

Jealous fat girls plain and simple.

MeMe kicked ass!

[hurricaneivan117]

fatties just want an excuse to be fat. Meme, we love you, but you can't win

[XxPnuemaxX]

I don't know, but with names like "JOY Nash" and "Kelly BLISS," I feel I could really get to like these beautiful girls.

=]

[stevescar1]

meme looks like she is grossed out just sitting next to them. man I hate that bitch she is a rich stuck up bitch.

[HSOUIXZ]

She has the right name..."MeMe"

She believes the world revolves around her and her thoughts

That why SHE and Her kids have been asked to leave school districts and neighbors.

[gillyssquashball]

Difference between causation and corelation.

Ok then Kelly, explain the correlation then.

Good luck.

[SteeLotus]

i'm size 2, 5'5" 110 lbs, and i never gain weight. a year ago, i never exercised and lived off of junk food. no difference. YOU CANNOT TELL, MEME YOU CRAZY CUNT. i used to get in trouble in gym because the teacher couldnt' understand why i couldnt' run fast, like my size automatically made me healthy and fit!!!

america has a problem. it's making us all crazy. let's tell our kids to be HEALTHY, not skinny. healthy, whatever our body size is.

and i love joy. she's gorgeous.

[weareskyscrapers]

preach it sista

[Balldez]

Kelly you are a dumb fuck. Fat people are unhealthy and stop lying.

You and Joy are pigs!

[JIMFISHES1]

People can be healthy and full figured and at the same time, I've seen it before.

[roselynn1989]

That is so true! Im very active, im vegetarian, and eat very healthy and im still a size 12. Meanwhile my roomate is a complete fast food addict, eats whatever she wants, and does very little excersise and is a size 4-5. It makes me so jealous and mad! But i think the important thing is that i feel and look healthy, i can evn outrun her which is funny since im so much bigger than her. people think skinny ppl must be healthy, and that fat people are not, its a totally unfair assumption!

[Canuckfan78]

But you're a size 12 which is a normal and healthy size

[canonvox]

size 12 in NOT normal. It is fat.  Period

[MaiaRikae]

Wow, really? So a six foot tall woman who is size 12 is fat? Idiot.

[RainBowEm]

But, she made predudicial assumptions about Joy.

Just because people are thin, doesn't mean they are healthy.

:]

[Allensmackerman]

You are so great, Mrs. Bliss. You and the size acceptance movement were the ones who provided the inspiration to be healthy within my size range. I can't thank you enough for it and my whole being has greatly benefited from your teachings.

[YellowTexasRose90]

you can't judge a book by its cover .... you never know if it is good or bad ... read it first then you know.

[Waitakeredame]

Hey Kelly, great to see you sticking it to them! This is the first time I've seen you live. Your website is fantastic but to see YOU is just gorgeous. (Lynda Finn)

By the way, in NZ we don't know this Meme woman, thank goodness, maybe she should be force fed "Largely Happy" :-)

[darthchaosofrspw]

I noticed on MeMe's website that her "Friends & Favorites" are the CSPI (Rockefeller Foundation front group promoting GMO foods) and the CDC (started as the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations, home of Dr. Cornelius Rhoads and the Tuskegee Syphilis Study). With all her air time on corporate-controlled media, I can only assume that her organization is also funded by the Rockefellers, making her no better than Michael Jacobson and Rick Berman (CCF is funded by Rockefeller's Monsanto).

[LimpsMcGee]

"Like when you said we don't have an obesity epidemic or whatever..."

Man, Meme's reeeally disrespectful. I mean, she won't even hear what others have to say because she's so wrapped up in what she thinks. It's sad really.

[krissy4nik]

Saying it is statistically ok to assume that fat people are unhealthy is just like saying that due to statistics you can safely assume that every black male you come across is a convict because of the size of the minority population in prisons.

[kdb1077]

Those two fat cows look like are going to eat that poor normal looking girl in the middle.

[princesskemo]

normal? please she looks like if you poke her with a stick that shell fall into broken peices on the floor >>;; obviousely that girl takes diet pills instead of eating in moderation...

[Tocxica]

I'd eat the bitch too if she treated me like that.

[ImageoftheMench]

She's not poor. Meme has been making so much money off of these suckers, it ain't even funny. By the way, I am skinny and I don't even exercise twice a week.

[THEOogalieBoogalie]

Lol. So true.

[carriepadian]

Wow...that is appalling to me that someone would talk to a fellow human being like that. I suppose you can take it as a sign that you are a little too close to the truth for some people's comfort. Kelly, you are awesome and have been an inspiration to me for years. Keep up the great work!

[kellybliss]

Actually, the amount of HATE emails I get like this is tremendous. My message has two parts: #1) Take good care of yourself and appreciate the body you have. #2) When people do live healthy lifestyles, they STILL will be diverse sizes, from lean to fat. Why do these two messages strike up such hatred? I do not understand, but I live with the hate mail daily. My way to cope is that I say a prayer for the persons suffering from the hate (spewing and spewed at),then I hit the delete button.

[lucytheloupgarou]

Kelly, why'd you pick such a bland & neutral topic? Pick something people can get emotional over! ;)Seriously, this is the 1st time I've heard of M Roth. Seems she's got her ears open to catch any comment that will affirm what she's already said herself but otherwise shows little or no interest in what others have to say when they're not agreeing with her. It's not your messages that generate the hatred, it's people's beliefs about what causes obesity and their dread of finding it in themselves.

[yrbabuena]

@kellybliss Right on, Kelly! Thank you so much for sticking your neck out there with your wise words. I love seeing that you have debated Meme and stated these two brilliant messages. You are a gift to people everywhere, of all sizes (and beautiful inside and out.)

[Balldez]

Fuck you Kelly you lying fat cunt.

[Sweetbug74]

Actually, I think Kelly rocks. So, go away, little balls.

[Allensmackerman]

Hahaha. Once again, Balldez has nothing of any substance to contribute and resorts to petty name calling and bigotry to try and get his non-point across. If anyone actually knew as much as I know about you, you'd have people laughing at you on an hourly basis, you twisted, pro-anorexia-promoting, racist dumbass.

[amineh410]

A fat person who exercises and eats nutritious food is healthier than thin person who doesn't. It's really ridiculous to assume that a person with extra meat is a walking heart attack while a 130 smoking fast food eater is not. Body mass has nothing to do with health.

[lMaya01]

Wow your making this sound like a plague.

Meme Is annoying, she didn't take the chance to listen or consider what Joy&Jordan were saying. Some people really can't help it. i eat extremely healthy and I don't binge, I exercise daily, and am a very active person, yet I weigh 200 pounds. and if you thik about how often do you see a fat person doing a shampoo comertial? or 3x clothes in stitches? According to the media you can only be one thing SKINNY.

[kellybliss]

Hello Chichimahater, This is Kelly Bliss. You are welcome to join me as I teach my 4 aerobics and weight training classes/wk, or join me in my hourly walk each day, or join me as I ride my bike three days a week. And finally, you may join me on my TRIKKE. I say you "may", because unless you are as fit as I am (at age 53), I don't know if you "can". When you assume plus size = unfit, you are being prejudice and showing ignorance.

[QuixoticNotions]

At 5'4, 160-165 lb (125 lb lean body mass) -- and exercise 15-20 hours a week running, bicycling, and intense weight training...

I hate people who judge on appearance not on the individual.

Everyone should try to be more healthy. Thin or fat. I know very few people who exercise at least the recommended hour a day... and if you don't do that, I certainly don't want to hear you insulting someone larger as being unhealthy.

[chichimahater]

I don't care what Ms. Bliss and Ms. Nash say. Meme looks young and healthy and the other two look like death warmed over. And I like how Joy says she works out twice a week give or take. Bullshit. The last time she worked out, Paris Hilton was a virgin.

[kettlebugs]

This comment is bigoted and prejudiced. Some people have a difficult time losing weight and exercising twice a week does not automatically make you thin. It just doesn't work that way. Who cares how Meme "looks"? I'd be willing to bet the other two lead healthier lifestyles. Anyway, Joy is overweight because she eats whatever she wants doesn't exercise at least 4-5 times a week (give or take doesn't count). Some people are naturally thin and thus eat and live however they want to, which is worse

[lunaticfilms]

yikes. people like mimi roth are making the earth spin backwards.

[tastic93]

DUDE, SKINNY GIRL OWNED! GO JOY!

[KayKay62442]

Quoting Stewie Griffin from 'Family Guy':

"Someone [Meme] needs to get laaaaaiiid!"

[mustangstevegt]

so when the doctor examines you and tell you (with medically viable information) that from analyzing your appearance, you are unhealthy-that is prejudice? its facts no prejudice! this is an outrage how people are justifying an epidemic. this kind of manipulated logic is deadly.

[kellybliss]

My new doctor examined me, looked at all my lab tests, and asked: "So, what is going on here? You look like an out of shape middle-aged woman. But you have the heart rate of a marathon runner and the flexibility of a gymnast. You have a great HDL ratio. What's going on?"

His first assumption was prejudice. The fact is I have a very healthy lifestyle, independent of my weight. Fit and healthy people come in diverse sizes. That is a fact. (Kelly Bliss)

[cryptess]

KellyBliss, I wish I could rate this reply of yours up, because it explains exactly what the alternative is -- You have the heart rate of a marathon runner and the flexibility of a gymnast.

It'd be nice if people stopped trying to be sidewalk doctors and let professionals with the adequate tools for the job tell people when their health is an issue, huh?

[maverichick]

I've gotten that too. My cholesterol, blood sugar, heart rate, blood pressure...everything is better than most of my MD's patients. She actually ran my tests twice because she thought something was wrong.

And I weigh plenty. 210lbs 5'4"

[Allensmackerman]

Prejudice means, "A preconceived judgment or opinion," so yes, by definition, someone looking at Kelly and judging her as unhealthy based on her appearance is in fact prejudice.

[hreshtag]

I just think that people are too focused on all this.. The bottom line is, SIZE doesn't matter, it's how you live your life. If you choose healthier foods as often as possible, exercise a couple times a week, and you're not thin, then who the heck cares?! People are so judgmental, its strange to watch. Not all fat people are unhealthy and not all thin people are healthy. It's just a fact, not a debate.

[hrtbreaker]

Anybody who's familiar with Meme Roth knows she's completely insane. She's the Ann Coulter of food and "health". This is the same woman that said giving your kid a cupcake is the same as feeding them anti-freeze.

[Tinkerbell115458]

Who does exercise at least 3 times a week? I don't think there are so many people that are so fucking perfect you know. I'm so tired of all this stress that is put upon us to live,breathe, sleep and eat perfect! It makes me feel like I'm never good enough untill I am perfectly thin and just perfect in every aspect of my life!Just stop it goddammit and let people live how they wanna live!

[ddviolinist]

Her point about health and future disease is real. The amount of type II diabetes is out of control. But, there is something wrong with this woman. She has a personal bone to pick. Something in her history, her family. She already said her parents and grandparents were overweight. I would imagine she has phobias? She is abusive and is clueless

[Jilleh84]

She is verbally abusive and she IS a Hitler with tits.

[prismaya]

Jeezus Christ. What a bitch. I just watched the whole thing on google and you are absolutely right - she IS verbally abusive.

[Jennjjpollock25]

The whole point is that Joy is HAPPY there is nothing wrong with being fat. And the girl in the middle she thinks she is unhealthy because she doesn't look like her.

[costelloqueen]

meme go grow an ass and promote a healthy lifestyle and not a be skinny lifestyle. being healthy yes will have a certain weight but that depends on the person and fat is not bad way to much fat is and jordon has a long way to go to be obese

[zev007]

that woman in the middle is beyond ridiculous.

[Squeezyniggy]

Fantastic

[Dipstikk]

YES, YES, AND AGAIN, YES! More people need to just shut their traps, belay their misconceptions, and listen to what's being said here. Me-me sounds so frantic, as if she's losing the control that she thought she had. After this segment, I believe that she even stooped to calling your words "mumbo-jumbo?" You kept your cool the whole time, and I appreciate that. Everything you're talking about in the video is important.

[moonlightkisu]

OMG! I want to see more .. why is it only 1:37?

that meme roth bitch ..

[kellybliss]

You can see the entire 20 minute by going to Google and searching in video for Kelly Bliss and Meme Roth. (YouTube would not accept the long video.)

[moonlightkisu]

ok thanks, I found it!