Even religious idiots might have the right to free speech, but hey, it goes both ways, we have the right to call you out on your lies and laugh at your pitiful attempts to justify your belief in the vitriolic poison and evil that your religion is.
@acathode Prove God is a lie, and I'll take it all back. Until you do, here's me doing my part for the freedom of speech, and telling you to have a nice day if you can.
Why would I try to have a rational argument with someone who have thrown rationality and logic away, ie. is religious? I will just laugh at your stupidity while you growled like a worm in front of a figment of your own imagination in the hopes that he will not condemn you to eternal damnation, while simultaneously claiming he is all
-loving, like the worst kind of sadomasochistic perverts the world have ever seen.
@acathode You threw rationality and logic away when you assumed religion contained neither. So I will laugh at your stupidity while you gnash your teeth like a frightened dog in front of your creative brainstorm in your dreams evolution won't abandon you to the wolves of the world, while still believing that it is the truth.
You have just proven you know nothing about Christians with that last statement. All humans sin, no one is above doing evil one way or another, even you.
Kursinphists = fanatical hypocrite, who opposes morality when it restricts HIS desire to pollute and destroy the planet by him breeding and eating meat, under his bullshit opposition to a strawman "world government", but he demands criminals not steal from him.
@mphello Mphello = evolutionist extremist, who opposes logic and reason when it restricts HIS wantoness to sully and obliterate the world by him living and talking and TOUCHING OUR WATER and breathing our air, under his dog shit regime against the truth while vouching for his "church of Darwin", but he demands criminals ally with him.
Proof once again that dumbasses still live, and know nothing about Christians.
@InternetDarkLord The ones from the works of God passed down are truthful, always have been. The Koran chronicles the words and battles of Muhammad, but this is the works of a man, not God. The scrolls of Buddhism stand firmly against the evil desires of the world, and is more philosophy than religion, from what I've heard.
@Kursinphists By what authority can you say that the Bible is work of God while the Koran isn't? The Bible as a collection of texts were first collated under Emperor Constantine in the 4th century. The church leaders were paid to vote and decide which books to include, and even on whether or not Jesus really was holy. For one thing, there were multiple versions of the books in the Bible, AND books have been excluded, e.g. the books of Mary Magdalene and Lazarus.
@dannisjc That is why I research the truth of the matter involving the Bible. There are translations and texts not seen in the King James version, blame the Catholic Church for that. One of these truths is in the Ten Commandments, it doesn't say "Thou shalt not kill", it says "Thou shalt not commit murder".
Also, Jesus says in the Bible, "Love your enemies and forgive those who would trespass against you." Muhammad says "Friends of Jews and Christians aren't friends of Muslims.
@Kursinphists How do you know? There are thousands of scrolls from many religions, you cannot believe because they contradict the Bible. WHY do believe 99.99% of the witness testimonies are so mistaken, but .01% are so true?
@InternetDarkLord I don't; firstly, one of his books is about the real Trojan war. The other is about an odessey, who knows if that was true or not, based on an actual voyage of adventurers seeking a lost treasure; maybe it was the basis for the Holy Grail story with King Arthur.
"The earth is SLIGHTLY older than 6000 years" ... Slightly is not the word. Ever heard of Dinosaurs, or carbon-dating? Oh wait, they are just instruments put there by god (or satan) to make us doubt the bible...lolololol. Oh how the whole creationist theory is full o fucking mind-numbing bullshit. You guys really would believe any shit, as long as it comes out of a child-raping priests mouth. hahahahahaaaa its laughably pathetic dude! <3
@eArtrash Dinosaurs and carbon dating have been shown to show that the Earth is indeed thousands of years old. The only people doubting the Bible are people like you, who point and laugh the way children point and laugh at the lame. Creationism isn't mind-numbing because the simplest explanation is usually the more truthful.
How dare you associate me with child-raping priests. If I had the means, I'd neuter those priests and then beat the hell out of you because you are pathetic.
@switchbladeromancex1 Think of it as "Natural Selection"...It's a slow process, and though I don't have any hard statistics offhand to support me, I believe it's gaining speed. Breaking the indoctrination of ignorance over thousands of years is harder when the subject matter can't be pointed to as immediate and obvious. The science that makes the light bulb work isn't as glaringly obvious as the science that makes us, US.
@Kursinphists Ignorance is simply a lack of knowledge, NOT an inability to learn or understand when knowledge becomes available...I can't and won't argue that a "Belief in god" is ignorant, as there's no definitive proof either way. I will argue that RELIGION and science can work together, since the purpose of science is to explain the universe, and religion says it's already been explained....BY GOD. cont.
@Exvictus Then what are you doing here? Are you amongst those who laugh at an idea that doesn't agree with yours? If I were to say, "I don't believe in evolution", does that constitute that I be amongst the scum of the Earth, associated with rapists, pedophiles, and murderers? Do you laugh, as eTrash and InternetDarkLord laugh, both more ignorant than a newborn baby? Or are you here to talk reasonable, without insult? Different minds shouldn't be treated differently.
@Kursinphists I don't believe I was being insulting, and that certainly wasn't my intent, particularly not a personal insult. My point was simply that while it's possible, even probable, that a believer in god can be of benefit in the search for answers and ultimate truth in the scientific world...and this has historically been the case (e.g. Newton, and even Darwin), the established religious organizations have a vested interest in ignorance, both in the past AND present. cont.
@Kursinphists The most obvious current example would be Islam, and the Catholic Church is an excellent example from the past, insisting on keeping it's own members in ignorance of it's own tenets, by not allowing the bible to be printed in any of the more commonly used languages. Even the contemporary American sects seek to expunge much knowledge that conflicts with their beliefs, and Evolution IS a prime example of this.
@Exvictus Even if I didn't believe in God (and I'm only saying if, bear with me), why would, or why should, I believe in evolution? What is wrong with believing that humanity didn't come from primordial slime, much less an ape's ancestor? Sure, it's a simple solution, but there's no purpose fulfilled, nor logical explanation as to why such paths were taken in life.
@Kursinphists You are free to believe whatever you like, but as with any of the sciences, your beliefs have no bearing on the facts that arise from experimentation, and that is entirely the point.. If a believer is going to be of any benefit to furthering knowledge, then should an experiment NOT indicate that "god did it", or even that there is no god, then he can't cry foul after the fact, because the facts don't fit his expectations. Science is a search for truth, not validation.
@Exvictus Yet Science has not truly answered many questions. Even when research is procured upon those questions, there's always two sides, but both can't be right. That is why I choose the simplest solution, that we humans are made with a purpose, that we fit in a plan that is still yet to be seen, like the thread in a tapestry.
@Kursinphists "Simplest solution" a.k.a. Occam's Razor also requires the least number of assumptions, and you've made a helluva lot of assumptions there ;-) I'm not here to convert you...either to evolution or from your religion, but I would submit that a universe creating god with an eternal plan for the entirety of mankind is NOT the simplest solution, just the most palatable (for many). There are still questions, but "god did it" neither answers them nor promotes doing so.
@Exvictus I know "God did it" doesn't answer the questions; it's how He did it that gets fuzzy. The only answer that would fit would be "intelligent design", kind of like how an engineer or a technician can not only make a machine, but they would also show how it works, why it works, and where every part works.
Besides, not everything is "God did it"; there is an old saying, "Shit happens", and that applies to most things. I believe you would call this one "Murphey's Law".
@Kursinphists No, "Shit happens" just means that occasionally things go wrong for no reason..Murphy's Law says "If anything can go wrong, it WILL", which means if you don't account for every possibility, you will get the unexpected where you were unprepared for it. One of the problems with I.D. from my perspective is, omniscience leaves no room for unexpected and unprepared..improvements can't occur, because an all knowing designer couldn't knowingly create anything imperfect.
@Kursinphists I'm not talking about a psychological change, I'm talking about a physiological change, and again, height is a good example of this, as well as the various ethnicities...If Adam and Eve are true, then they would be genetically identical excepting gender (cloned from a rib), there wouldn't be any genetic possibility for the human race to have such variety, without evolution as a factor. Alterations due to environment.
@Kursinphists "But Eve wasn't cloned from a rib, she was made from one. "...From a genetics standpoint, what's the difference? Eve was made from Adam's rib, more specifically the DNA that made up his rib (there are better choices of tissue). Eve would be genetically identical to Adam, excepting gender, she's a clone, and without evolution, they could only produce children within their very narrow range of dominant and recessive traits. no skin color or other variations.
@Kursinphists I didn't know I was marked as spam..I guess someone didn't like what I said. Isn't the first time, won't be the last. Anyway...Free will is an illusion with an omniscient god..You CAN'T have free will, and be part of "god's plan" at the same time. if god already knows every action you will take and every thought you will ever have, and he knew it before you or your parents were ever born, then what you call free will was anticipated and rendered null.
@Exvictus Yes, you can. You can have free will, but in the end there's no such thing as coincidence or random chance. Think like the story in a book; you don't know how it will begin until you start reading it, and you don't know how it ends until you've gone through it. No one but the one who made the book knows the beginning and the end, and yet this author allows his characters the freedom of choice. Where they go, who they talk to, it all comes together, like the thread.
@Kursinphists If you're familiar with "The Butterfly Effect", extend it from the moment of creation onward, with every step known in advance. Continuing...Skinny and obese can be attributed to diet and exercise, though there are other possibilities, but those aren't necessarily directly attributable to evolution. At any rate, man being communal, can overcome some of the factors that normally affect natural selection. intelligence & tribal behavior alleviate "kill or be killed".
@Exvictus Kill or be killed, I think, only applies to when a life is about to be taken, not a natural lifestyle. We don't constantly live in fear of being eaten.
@Kursinphists Evolution, whether of machine, or biology, is a continuous process of trial and error...If an alteration is an improvement, then the new design is incorporated into all subsequent generations, if not, that model is scrapped, and the previous working version continues trying new things. We see this as obvious in the micro world, and even on our scale as insects become immune to certain poisons in a single generation (they aren't wearing little gas masks). cont.
@Exvictus I truly don't believe evolution of biology. I do believe machines evolve, they change over time just like the computer, and I believe things like medicine evolve, as well as governments. Science itself evolves, and so does religion, I won't deny that.
@Kursinphists Religion can't evolve, or it negates itself...If the "word of god" were true and perfect 2000 years ago, then it's still exactly as true today, unless god makes mistakes and doesn't know what will happen...Omniscience precludes this.
@Exvictus God doesn't make mistakes; His only fault was creating humanity, which then turned to desire. I am not preaching, I am only saying what I've read.
@Kursinphists desire cannot effect height, skin color, nor any of the other physical characteristics that differentiate the various human "races" (for lack of a better term). Exercise can alter physique and strength, but it also will not change height, nor any other physical factors. If humans were "created" exactly as god intended, then why have we..or CAN we, change at all, in these ways?
@Exvictus It is called "choice", or "free will". It was given to us by God, to ensure that we can be able to make our choices without the interference of outside forces.
@Kursinphists There is sufficient evidence to show that evolution does occur in humans, even with the few "gaps" in the record...hell, just the fact that humans, on average, have grown substantially taller over the centuries, is proof that evolution occurs to some degree. It may not seem like absolute proof, but it's certainly cause to examine it more closely and not dismiss it out of hand.
@Exvictus I don't think our height stands firm as a result of biological evolution, but it could (and I'm only saying it could, theoretically) be the result of a weakening gravity, or simply humanity is adapting to a new kind of environment, the evolution of civilization.
@Kursinphists Height is a result of biology, and also natural selection.. Taller men are considered more attractive to women,(for various reasons), generally speaking, so taller men have more chances to "breed", resulting in more, taller than average children, and the cycle continues. Evolution is two stage, and not reliant on radical immediate improvements.
@Exvictus True, height makes men more attractive, as well as muscle strength and a cut form, but this isn't the result of evolution, it is just the stages provided throughout nature, no different than when a child grows up. The only difference is that both men and women change their forms to look attractive, whether by exercise or by medical procedures.
Natural selection, however, doesn't seem to always rely on the strongest to survive. Look at Stephen Hawking, for example.
@Kursinphists I'm not entirely sure where you're going with Stephen Hawking, but how does god account for genetic abnormalities better than evolution? I'm not familiar enough with ALS to know the exact cause, but given how rare his condition is, it seems pretty evident that since the vast majority of humans DON'T have it, then it's not a survival trait, and doesn't get passed on very often.
@Exvictus Exactly. If evolution were true to the letter, then only the strongest and better-physically-capable people would be alive to this day. But we've got the skinny people, the obese people, the people affected by genetic disorders and syndromes, the little people, and the people like Stephen Hawking who couldn't lift a finger. All these outweigh the rest of the physically strong people in numbers.
@Kursinphists The other end of it is, humans are a communal species, meaning we are "pack animals", and the stronger in the group take care of the weaker, because they have some value to the whole, (i.e. strength in numbers). In the case of Stephen Hawking, his mind more than makes up for the limitations of his body, and as we're not a "hunter/gatherer" group anymore, his contributions have even more value than otherwise. but that's societal evolution, not biological.
@Exvictus Yes, society can evolve, I won't deny that one either. Yet, from certain views, there are packs of the stronger who only take care of the stronger, as well as packs of the weaker taking care of the weaker. This has shown in middle and high schools, as well as in certain groups like sports teams.
@Kursinphists With your high school analogy, what you're showing is tribal behavior, and that's more in the realm of anthropology than biology, but even in the cases you cite, the stronger members of a given group will protect the weaker members of the same group...As a further demonstration of this, imagine a football player from rival school attacking a handicapped kid from your school in front of your school's football team...What do you suppose would happen?
@Kursinphists What we have is a layered strata of tribal behavior here, where each successively larger group aligns itself against perceived threats from outside. The "jocks" may not like the "nerds" at their own school, but woe betide anyone from the rival team who picks on one of our guys.. We begin at family as a group, then "th team", then the school, then the community, then the state, then the country, etc, til the aliens come, and finally the whole planet unites. ;-)
@Kursinphists I can't really claim to be an expert on any particular facet of this material, I just have a reasonable enough familiarity with most of it, to assure myself of it's validity. You would be better served with some independent research, but, if you really believe that a believer in god can prove as valuable to the sciences as a non believer, then you have to go in the same way we do...Not expecting to find god, and willing to not be disappointed if/when you don't.
@Exvictus Where do you think I get those links? There's no need to "find God"...He is always there. What I really need to do, though, is find myself, and where I fit in the world of purpose.
@Kursinphists Im done with you now...no point in arguing with a moronic, closet homo, priest sucking bigot. Get blocked and good luck on being a virgin your whole life, trolling teh interwebz instead of living and loving :D byyyeeee <3
@eArtrash I'm done with you too. There's no point or logical reason to argue with an idiotic, closet emo, dog-fucking, flag-burning, stereotyping dickless dumbass. Get lost and good luck being a misery your whole existence, trolling the internet with your poor grammar, and trolling the life you claim to love. Bye to you, hypocrite.
@Kursinphists Adherence to religion IS ignorance for that very reason, and what's worse, is that religion is INTENTIONAL ignorance..The intentional eschewing of new knowledge if it dares to fly in the face of what's "known" to be true, or even hints at criticism of religious doctrines. I'll grant that believers can work with science, it can be done and HAS been done, but religion, as an organization, cannot admit to lacks of pre-understanding when they occur.
@Exvictus No, because religion isn't about ignorance. At least, both religion and science used to be about open-mindedness. Religion is supposed to attain knowledge, just as science is to seek out what is truth in the universe. Science without religion is lame, and religion without science is blind. That is a universal truth, and just like truth, it is being shunned today. No one wants to know the truth anymore.
@switchbladeromancex1 It isn't scary, and I am shocked at you; I took you to be more mature than eTrash-talker. I guess you will also be part of the major problems you so concern yourself with, and like those big names I mentioned, you will do nothing.
@eArtrash No, we are not a dying minority. Evolution is a dwindling idea. Face it, eTrash, the proof is everywhere, and evolution has to face the music.
@Kursinphists You are on your own here dude. Just look at the ratings on this video..is that proof that "Evolution is a dwindling idea" and that religion is on the rise? I really dont think so. If you love god so much, and creationism; just go to some bible-basher videos and make some friends, and spread the joy..instead of insulting people here. Call me a trash-talker, yet it appears to be you who is attempting to insult everyone who dare argue with your bullshit religion.
@eArtrash Evolution is a dwindling idea; just because you and your lackeys deny it doesn't mean evolution is the truth. Religion has always been on the rise, hello? And, for starters, you and your crownies started insulting me. I only insult people who insult me first, or try and rub out the truth and turn it into a mockery. I dare stand against you any day, pal. And in case you haven't noticed (which is most likely), I am not alone here.
@Kursinphists Thats fine. You keep on believing the world was created by a big white dude with a beard 6000 years ago..we will keep believing that life is an evolving nature which we are just a tiny, yet fortunate example of. I dont care what you believe, nor do I want to make you see sense...afterall; you cant make someone disbelieve something that they never "chose" to believe in the first place (i.e you were brainwashed by your parents, school and church). They did a good job, of that. :D
@eArtrash Firstly, God isn't a man. Secondly, the Earth is slightly older than 6000 years. Thirdly, I don't care what you believe, either, since it is "Live in your world, let me go get ganked in mine", nor do I want to see why your beliefs make sense only to you. I can't force you to believe otherwise, in fact I encourage you to believe what you want, despite being brainwashed by your parents, school, and "church"), since they did a good job of that.
@Kursinphists Whats REALLY amusing here, is the way you argue your point. You take our comments, and "SWAP" the words round to suit YOUR beliefs. A psychologist would probably have a field day with that kinda behavior...but Im just gonna put it down to the fact you are a brainwashed creationist, with no real argument, a huge grudge against normal-thinking humans.... and a whole lot of virginity! I should pity you, but after talking with you, and getting to know you,I think its fucking hilarious.
@eArtrash What REALLY amuses me is that you don't understand why I "swap" the words. It isn't to suit my beliefs, it is to put ridicule on your replies. A psychologist would take his vacation time just to find out why you didn't get that, but I'll just say you're a brainwashed evolutionist with no argument and no proof, a ginormous abnormal hatred to humanity and normality, not to mention being hated. I should pity you, but your replies make me laugh at you instead.
@Kursinphists Oh and "I dare stand against you any day, pal" ... that makes me laugh even more. The image I have of you in my head is hilarious dude. Hows virginity treating you?
@eArtrash Better than it ever treated you. How's an early life with kids and grey hair, Grandpa? That's my image of you, a decrepit and depressed little man with no ambition in life, who's own life is but shambles and troubled youths who constantly do him wrong.
@Kursinphists My life is great dude! Im 25, in good shape, self employed and about to move to France to live with my girlfriend. Got loads of plans and loads of goals, each one keeps getting reached! Life is great, my friend. Hows work at the book store panning out for you, virgin boy? <3
@eArtrash Give my regards to the hairy women. Me, I don't work at a book store. Unlike you, I have a steady job where I was hired by a major media corporation, though the subjects brought out aren't always what I hope for, the pay is substantial with the hours. What an epic failure you've fallen in. Oh, and there's nothing wrong with being a virgin; there is, however, something wrong with using the username eTrash. What, you want the username to reflect the real you?
@Kursinphists eTrash? I think you should learn to read :D Also, french chicks arent hairy...thats a myth...but hry what would YOU know? Heheheeeeee Creatiobist Virgin boy fails again :)
@eArtrash EA -videogameloser-Trash fails a fifth time. There's nothing wrong with being a virgin, it is a unique part of being human, but you wouldn't know that given you treat most other humans like an abusive drunk to his own dog. I do feel pity, but not for you; your girlfriend could have done better. Also, you wouldn't know where I've gone, because you weren't there. That's a double-fail for you. Try not to play board games in Europe, since you'll get your ass whooped easily.
@Kursinphists I dont drink, my username has nothind to do with EA. Nice insults though (not), virgin-boy. Keep em coming!! Ps- you Christians are such nice people!! :D
@eArtrash Yes, nice username, goes well with who you really are. You couldn't insult a five-year-old, and you are more than welcome to throw your lame excuses at me anytime. P.S, I am only nice to people who don't insult me on a first-meeting basis.
@Kursinphists HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thats what the problem is, isnt it? You're mad cause you are a god-fearing virgin, with no friends outside your church..while us Atheists are living it up enjoying life cause we know WE ONLY GET ONE LIFE. Make the most of it, buddy...cause once the ride is over..its over. No heaven, no hell...just OOOVVER. <3 :D
@switchbladeromancex1 Haven't you seen the news? Nobody is doing anything about the major problems of the world. Obama is too busy taking vacations, Bush is too busy with his oil, Romney is too busy getting face time on camera, Newt is too busy being a hypocrite, and I don't even want to know what Hillary is doing. New wars are about to be waged, like between Iran and Israel, and North Korea will be just as worse as it was before.
@Kursinphists Far more people will die from your beliefs than anything else. All of the 7 billion people alive who decide for heaven, not earth, will die.
@InternetDarkLord You haven't done anything you said, therefore making you out the true hypocrite and fraud. Your crusade to clean me of what I believe is for naught, just because I'm a sinner like you doesn't sway me from believing in God and living the life He gave me. You should give up your hypocrisy while you still can.
@Kursinphists I am doing what I say, I believe in scientific immortality, so will I do it. You claim it is impossible, but you will also do it anyway. You know heaven is not there.
Yeah Thunderfoot. In otherwords a 200x200x200 km object traveling at 30 kilometers per second upon impact would release energy equal to a 840,000,000,000 MT explosion. The asteroid that killed the Dinosaurs along with 70% of all life on Earth was only 96,000,000 MT and the worlds entire Nuclear arsenal is only 5,000 MT.
@Kursinphists ALL the things you listed as practicing are just words. You will prove evolution is true the same way I will, by doing it. If you disagree, PROVE it, renounce immortality attempts on this plane. You will not.
@InternetDarkLord Evolution isn't true, and I've proved that more than enough. Renouncing immortality attempts on this plane won't reveal the truth about evolution, only research and logic. You will not do either.
@Kursinphists You already did, you claim all gods like Zeus or Thor were mere people except one. So just stop making one dumb exception to your own proof.
@InternetDarkLord The scrolls are the recordings of God's works, and how He works through the universe, through nature, and through men themselves. Wisdom is used by God, and only attained at certain points by men, yet there are times when God will speak through men. The scrolls are records passed down through the generations, recording the works of God. So, in a way, all the scrolls of the Bible are God's.
@InternetDarkLord The eyewitness testimonies of the original Bible, those who received the testimonies passed down from the voice of God, are the truthful ones.
@Kursinphists Let's see, you believe in witches, seraphs, cherubs with flaming swords, a talking serpent, a talking donkey, a bronze stick curing snakebite, sticks that turn into snakes, a man walking on water, dead bodies rising, a river turning into blood, the Nile drying up, a woman who turns into a pillar of salt, a man going to heaven in a flying chariot, demons possessing pigs, a 969 year old man, supernatural virgin birth, what did I miss?
@InternetDarkLord How about the fact that evolution doesn't exist, there is no fact backing up evolution, and you being a big retarded shit-faced mindless screw-up who couldn't count backwards unless he was drunk?
@InternetDarkLord I don't obey dog shit beliefs like murdering my own flesh and blood, nor the orders of some fanatic wanting me to commit murder. It makes no difference what you say, my beliefs are not dog shit, and I am not as stiff and as inflexible as you.
@InternetDarkLord Becoming immortal when the time comes and having earned it is sane and logical. Believing something that's been disproved again and again, time and time again, is not only illogical, it is insanity.
@eArtrash I know, I find the idea of evolution hilarious as well. I mean, this is the same idea people keep calling fact and yet it keeps getting disproved. There are scientists who don't believe in evolution, and yet no one is listening to logic or reason anymore, they are in only for the money. That is funny.
@Kursinphists Liar. Evolution has NEVER been disproved at all, by anyone, ever.
The very few scientists who espouse creationism are almost exclusively not biologists or geologists, and have zero credibility. To suggest virtually every scientist is in on a big cash conspiracy is such an abysmally stupid comment that it hardly merits contradiction.
@carmium Liar, Evolution has ALWAYS been disproved by many scientists who didn't agree with evolution. They are biologists, and have been studying the subject since before you were alive. The only reason you give them zero credibility is for your lack of perception beyond the illogical choice of a lie. It's not just about cash for almost every evolutionist, it's about being right at any cost. To suggest that evolution is the truth is to claim with no real proof.
@Kursinphists NO, it was never disproved any more than any previous medical advance before its time.
Insanity is believing you will live forever because you believe a book with: a talking snake, a talking donkey, cherubs, seraphs, witches, demons possessing pigs, the Nile drying up, sticks turning into snakes, a river turning into blood, a bronze stick curing snakebite, dead bodies rising from the dead, a 969 year old man, supernatural virgin birth...
@Kursinphists When were the human immortality experiments I gave you, like reversing aging in mice in Harvard, done before? Why does reversing aging in mice constitute "expecting a different result?"
@InternetDarkLord You'll just be doing it over and over with a finite amount of stem cells, but they'll break down with time, until you have no more. Since those stem cells don't last forever, neither will the person being injected with them.
@Kursinphists Except I did not cite only stem cell research, that is only a fraction of immortality research. Again, you are completely ignorant of the issue.
@InternetDarkLord I'm not ignorant of the issue, you keep eluding the links I gave you, proving your ignorance. The fact that we can prolong life doesn't mean we'll be immortal on this plane because both you and I know that whatever is used to help organic life like us will inevitably break down. That goes for medicine, that goes for minerals and vitamins, and that goes for energy.
@InternetDarkLord Why haven't you proved immortality? Is it because you know those stem cells don't last forever, and inevitably neither will the subject of those cells?
@InternetDarkLord Funny, since nothing so far has proven to live forever upon this plane due to the second law of thermodynamics, yet you continue to argue that this law doesn't apply to everything, and you are willing to lay your life on the line for that. In a way, you would die for what you believe in, won't you?
@Kursinphists I never said the second law does not apply to anything, I said it does not prove your bull shit. You gave silly excuses about being unable to type the math, then dropped the subject.
@InternetDarkLord Wrong, the second law proves what I have said, therefore making it logical and not bullshit, unlike the crap you dug up. You give ludicrous excuses about being unable to provide the experiments disproving both God and Heaven, then change the matter.
Even religious idiots might have the right to free speech, but hey, it goes both ways, we have the right to call you out on your lies and laugh at your pitiful attempts to justify your belief in the vitriolic poison and evil that your religion is.
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@acathode Prove God is a lie, and I'll take it all back. Until you do, here's me doing my part for the freedom of speech, and telling you to have a nice day if you can.
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@Kursinphists
Why would I try to have a rational argument with someone who have thrown rationality and logic away, ie. is religious? I will just laugh at your stupidity while you growled like a worm in front of a figment of your own imagination in the hopes that he will not condemn you to eternal damnation, while simultaneously claiming he is all
-loving, like the worst kind of sadomasochistic perverts the world have ever seen.
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@acathode You threw rationality and logic away when you assumed religion contained neither. So I will laugh at your stupidity while you gnash your teeth like a frightened dog in front of your creative brainstorm in your dreams evolution won't abandon you to the wolves of the world, while still believing that it is the truth.
You have just proven you know nothing about Christians with that last statement. All humans sin, no one is above doing evil one way or another, even you.
Kursinphists 4 days ago
Kursinphists = fanatical hypocrite, who opposes morality when it restricts HIS desire to pollute and destroy the planet by him breeding and eating meat, under his bullshit opposition to a strawman "world government", but he demands criminals not steal from him.
Proof once again that christards have no morals.
mphello 5 days ago
@mphello Mphello = evolutionist extremist, who opposes logic and reason when it restricts HIS wantoness to sully and obliterate the world by him living and talking and TOUCHING OUR WATER and breathing our air, under his dog shit regime against the truth while vouching for his "church of Darwin", but he demands criminals ally with him.
Proof once again that dumbasses still live, and know nothing about Christians.
Kursinphists 5 days ago
@Kursinphists No, you just beg the question. Name some experiments, please.
InternetDarkLord 6 days ago
@InternetDarkLord I did, they're called witness testimonies. Pledged to the truth, too.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists How do you know which scrolls of so many religions are acurate ones?
InternetDarkLord 2 days ago
@InternetDarkLord The ones from the works of God passed down are truthful, always have been. The Koran chronicles the words and battles of Muhammad, but this is the works of a man, not God. The scrolls of Buddhism stand firmly against the evil desires of the world, and is more philosophy than religion, from what I've heard.
Kursinphists 2 days ago
@Kursinphists By what authority can you say that the Bible is work of God while the Koran isn't? The Bible as a collection of texts were first collated under Emperor Constantine in the 4th century. The church leaders were paid to vote and decide which books to include, and even on whether or not Jesus really was holy. For one thing, there were multiple versions of the books in the Bible, AND books have been excluded, e.g. the books of Mary Magdalene and Lazarus.
dannisjc 2 days ago
@dannisjc That is why I research the truth of the matter involving the Bible. There are translations and texts not seen in the King James version, blame the Catholic Church for that. One of these truths is in the Ten Commandments, it doesn't say "Thou shalt not kill", it says "Thou shalt not commit murder".
Also, Jesus says in the Bible, "Love your enemies and forgive those who would trespass against you." Muhammad says "Friends of Jews and Christians aren't friends of Muslims.
Kursinphists 1 day ago
@Kursinphists How do you know which scrolls are the work of God or man? Got experiments?
InternetDarkLord 1 day ago in playlist Favorite videos
@InternetDarkLord What are you, a merry-go-round? Witness testimonies!
Kursinphists 1 day ago
@Kursinphists How do you know? There are thousands of scrolls from many religions, you cannot believe because they contradict the Bible. WHY do believe 99.99% of the witness testimonies are so mistaken, but .01% are so true?
InternetDarkLord 9 hours ago
@Kursinphists NO, eyewitness claims passed down over time like The Odyssey are extremely unreliable. Old hearsay proves nothing.
InternetDarkLord 6 days ago
@InternetDarkLord The Odyssey isn't a witness testimony of God and His works, it is the work of Homer.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists How do you know Homer was not an eyewitness, before going blind?
InternetDarkLord 4 days ago
@InternetDarkLord I don't; firstly, one of his books is about the real Trojan war. The other is about an odessey, who knows if that was true or not, based on an actual voyage of adventurers seeking a lost treasure; maybe it was the basis for the Holy Grail story with King Arthur.
Kursinphists 4 days ago
@Kursinphists How do you know what ancient eyewitnesses did or did not see?
InternetDarkLord 3 days ago
@Kursinphists Where did I say that it didn't?
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
"The earth is SLIGHTLY older than 6000 years" ... Slightly is not the word. Ever heard of Dinosaurs, or carbon-dating? Oh wait, they are just instruments put there by god (or satan) to make us doubt the bible...lolololol. Oh how the whole creationist theory is full o fucking mind-numbing bullshit. You guys really would believe any shit, as long as it comes out of a child-raping priests mouth. hahahahahaaaa its laughably pathetic dude! <3
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash Dinosaurs and carbon dating have been shown to show that the Earth is indeed thousands of years old. The only people doubting the Bible are people like you, who point and laugh the way children point and laugh at the lame. Creationism isn't mind-numbing because the simplest explanation is usually the more truthful.
How dare you associate me with child-raping priests. If I had the means, I'd neuter those priests and then beat the hell out of you because you are pathetic.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists You are also a Marxist-hating homophobe.
mphello 5 days ago
@mphello You are a Hitler-loving scumbag. Go back to the blazing heat from whence you came.
Kursinphists 5 days ago
@Kursinphists I never said cars make you immortal, jackass. Quote where I said that.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord Sorry, misinterpreted what you said.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
i cant believe that its 2012 and we are still having to argue with people over the subject of evolution.
its going to take the human race a long time to deal with the major problems we have if people still think the earth was created by god.
switchbladeromancex1 1 week ago
@switchbladeromancex1 right with you. luckily they are a dying minority :)
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash not dying fast enough man.
its somthing like 60% of Americans don't believe in evolution.
scary shit
switchbladeromancex1 1 week ago
@switchbladeromancex1 Think of it as "Natural Selection"...It's a slow process, and though I don't have any hard statistics offhand to support me, I believe it's gaining speed. Breaking the indoctrination of ignorance over thousands of years is harder when the subject matter can't be pointed to as immediate and obvious. The science that makes the light bulb work isn't as glaringly obvious as the science that makes us, US.
Exvictus 1 week ago
@Exvictus Believing in God isn't ignorance. Science and religion can work together if the people would allow it to be.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Ignorance is simply a lack of knowledge, NOT an inability to learn or understand when knowledge becomes available...I can't and won't argue that a "Belief in god" is ignorant, as there's no definitive proof either way. I will argue that RELIGION and science can work together, since the purpose of science is to explain the universe, and religion says it's already been explained....BY GOD. cont.
Exvictus 1 week ago
@Exvictus Then what are you doing here? Are you amongst those who laugh at an idea that doesn't agree with yours? If I were to say, "I don't believe in evolution", does that constitute that I be amongst the scum of the Earth, associated with rapists, pedophiles, and murderers? Do you laugh, as eTrash and InternetDarkLord laugh, both more ignorant than a newborn baby? Or are you here to talk reasonable, without insult? Different minds shouldn't be treated differently.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists I don't believe I was being insulting, and that certainly wasn't my intent, particularly not a personal insult. My point was simply that while it's possible, even probable, that a believer in god can be of benefit in the search for answers and ultimate truth in the scientific world...and this has historically been the case (e.g. Newton, and even Darwin), the established religious organizations have a vested interest in ignorance, both in the past AND present. cont.
Exvictus 1 week ago
@Exvictus If only there were more people like you.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists The most obvious current example would be Islam, and the Catholic Church is an excellent example from the past, insisting on keeping it's own members in ignorance of it's own tenets, by not allowing the bible to be printed in any of the more commonly used languages. Even the contemporary American sects seek to expunge much knowledge that conflicts with their beliefs, and Evolution IS a prime example of this.
Exvictus 1 week ago
@Exvictus Even if I didn't believe in God (and I'm only saying if, bear with me), why would, or why should, I believe in evolution? What is wrong with believing that humanity didn't come from primordial slime, much less an ape's ancestor? Sure, it's a simple solution, but there's no purpose fulfilled, nor logical explanation as to why such paths were taken in life.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists btw...HAHAAAHAHA
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash One more thing....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists You are free to believe whatever you like, but as with any of the sciences, your beliefs have no bearing on the facts that arise from experimentation, and that is entirely the point.. If a believer is going to be of any benefit to furthering knowledge, then should an experiment NOT indicate that "god did it", or even that there is no god, then he can't cry foul after the fact, because the facts don't fit his expectations. Science is a search for truth, not validation.
Exvictus 1 week ago
@Exvictus Yet Science has not truly answered many questions. Even when research is procured upon those questions, there's always two sides, but both can't be right. That is why I choose the simplest solution, that we humans are made with a purpose, that we fit in a plan that is still yet to be seen, like the thread in a tapestry.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists "Simplest solution" a.k.a. Occam's Razor also requires the least number of assumptions, and you've made a helluva lot of assumptions there ;-) I'm not here to convert you...either to evolution or from your religion, but I would submit that a universe creating god with an eternal plan for the entirety of mankind is NOT the simplest solution, just the most palatable (for many). There are still questions, but "god did it" neither answers them nor promotes doing so.
Exvictus 1 week ago
@Exvictus I know "God did it" doesn't answer the questions; it's how He did it that gets fuzzy. The only answer that would fit would be "intelligent design", kind of like how an engineer or a technician can not only make a machine, but they would also show how it works, why it works, and where every part works.
Besides, not everything is "God did it"; there is an old saying, "Shit happens", and that applies to most things. I believe you would call this one "Murphey's Law".
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists No, "Shit happens" just means that occasionally things go wrong for no reason..Murphy's Law says "If anything can go wrong, it WILL", which means if you don't account for every possibility, you will get the unexpected where you were unprepared for it. One of the problems with I.D. from my perspective is, omniscience leaves no room for unexpected and unprepared..improvements can't occur, because an all knowing designer couldn't knowingly create anything imperfect.
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus But what if God did create something perfect, and through that creation's choice it chose to be imperfect in a trade for desire?
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists I'm not talking about a psychological change, I'm talking about a physiological change, and again, height is a good example of this, as well as the various ethnicities...If Adam and Eve are true, then they would be genetically identical excepting gender (cloned from a rib), there wouldn't be any genetic possibility for the human race to have such variety, without evolution as a factor. Alterations due to environment.
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus But Eve wasn't cloned from a rib, she was made from one.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
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@Kursinphists "But Eve wasn't cloned from a rib, she was made from one. "...From a genetics standpoint, what's the difference? Eve was made from Adam's rib, more specifically the DNA that made up his rib (there are better choices of tissue). Eve would be genetically identical to Adam, excepting gender, she's a clone, and without evolution, they could only produce children within their very narrow range of dominant and recessive traits. no skin color or other variations.
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus Why did your reply receive spam? That was not called for, I think what you've been saying has carried more wisdom than anyone else here.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists I didn't know I was marked as spam..I guess someone didn't like what I said. Isn't the first time, won't be the last. Anyway...Free will is an illusion with an omniscient god..You CAN'T have free will, and be part of "god's plan" at the same time. if god already knows every action you will take and every thought you will ever have, and he knew it before you or your parents were ever born, then what you call free will was anticipated and rendered null.
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus Yes, you can. You can have free will, but in the end there's no such thing as coincidence or random chance. Think like the story in a book; you don't know how it will begin until you start reading it, and you don't know how it ends until you've gone through it. No one but the one who made the book knows the beginning and the end, and yet this author allows his characters the freedom of choice. Where they go, who they talk to, it all comes together, like the thread.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists If you're familiar with "The Butterfly Effect", extend it from the moment of creation onward, with every step known in advance. Continuing...Skinny and obese can be attributed to diet and exercise, though there are other possibilities, but those aren't necessarily directly attributable to evolution. At any rate, man being communal, can overcome some of the factors that normally affect natural selection. intelligence & tribal behavior alleviate "kill or be killed".
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus Kill or be killed, I think, only applies to when a life is about to be taken, not a natural lifestyle. We don't constantly live in fear of being eaten.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists Evolution, whether of machine, or biology, is a continuous process of trial and error...If an alteration is an improvement, then the new design is incorporated into all subsequent generations, if not, that model is scrapped, and the previous working version continues trying new things. We see this as obvious in the micro world, and even on our scale as insects become immune to certain poisons in a single generation (they aren't wearing little gas masks). cont.
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus I truly don't believe evolution of biology. I do believe machines evolve, they change over time just like the computer, and I believe things like medicine evolve, as well as governments. Science itself evolves, and so does religion, I won't deny that.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists Religion can't evolve, or it negates itself...If the "word of god" were true and perfect 2000 years ago, then it's still exactly as true today, unless god makes mistakes and doesn't know what will happen...Omniscience precludes this.
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus God doesn't make mistakes; His only fault was creating humanity, which then turned to desire. I am not preaching, I am only saying what I've read.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists desire cannot effect height, skin color, nor any of the other physical characteristics that differentiate the various human "races" (for lack of a better term). Exercise can alter physique and strength, but it also will not change height, nor any other physical factors. If humans were "created" exactly as god intended, then why have we..or CAN we, change at all, in these ways?
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus It is called "choice", or "free will". It was given to us by God, to ensure that we can be able to make our choices without the interference of outside forces.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists There is sufficient evidence to show that evolution does occur in humans, even with the few "gaps" in the record...hell, just the fact that humans, on average, have grown substantially taller over the centuries, is proof that evolution occurs to some degree. It may not seem like absolute proof, but it's certainly cause to examine it more closely and not dismiss it out of hand.
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus I don't think our height stands firm as a result of biological evolution, but it could (and I'm only saying it could, theoretically) be the result of a weakening gravity, or simply humanity is adapting to a new kind of environment, the evolution of civilization.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists Height is a result of biology, and also natural selection.. Taller men are considered more attractive to women,(for various reasons), generally speaking, so taller men have more chances to "breed", resulting in more, taller than average children, and the cycle continues. Evolution is two stage, and not reliant on radical immediate improvements.
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus True, height makes men more attractive, as well as muscle strength and a cut form, but this isn't the result of evolution, it is just the stages provided throughout nature, no different than when a child grows up. The only difference is that both men and women change their forms to look attractive, whether by exercise or by medical procedures.
Natural selection, however, doesn't seem to always rely on the strongest to survive. Look at Stephen Hawking, for example.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists I'm not entirely sure where you're going with Stephen Hawking, but how does god account for genetic abnormalities better than evolution? I'm not familiar enough with ALS to know the exact cause, but given how rare his condition is, it seems pretty evident that since the vast majority of humans DON'T have it, then it's not a survival trait, and doesn't get passed on very often.
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus Exactly. If evolution were true to the letter, then only the strongest and better-physically-capable people would be alive to this day. But we've got the skinny people, the obese people, the people affected by genetic disorders and syndromes, the little people, and the people like Stephen Hawking who couldn't lift a finger. All these outweigh the rest of the physically strong people in numbers.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists The other end of it is, humans are a communal species, meaning we are "pack animals", and the stronger in the group take care of the weaker, because they have some value to the whole, (i.e. strength in numbers). In the case of Stephen Hawking, his mind more than makes up for the limitations of his body, and as we're not a "hunter/gatherer" group anymore, his contributions have even more value than otherwise. but that's societal evolution, not biological.
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus Yes, society can evolve, I won't deny that one either. Yet, from certain views, there are packs of the stronger who only take care of the stronger, as well as packs of the weaker taking care of the weaker. This has shown in middle and high schools, as well as in certain groups like sports teams.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists With your high school analogy, what you're showing is tribal behavior, and that's more in the realm of anthropology than biology, but even in the cases you cite, the stronger members of a given group will protect the weaker members of the same group...As a further demonstration of this, imagine a football player from rival school attacking a handicapped kid from your school in front of your school's football team...What do you suppose would happen?
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus I would go over to that jock and beat the living shit out of him. Any of his buddies come to help him, I'll pommel them, as well.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists What we have is a layered strata of tribal behavior here, where each successively larger group aligns itself against perceived threats from outside. The "jocks" may not like the "nerds" at their own school, but woe betide anyone from the rival team who picks on one of our guys.. We begin at family as a group, then "th team", then the school, then the community, then the state, then the country, etc, til the aliens come, and finally the whole planet unites. ;-)
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus No, the whole planet doesn't unite, and should never unite. That leads to a world government, and I will not have a world government.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists I can't really claim to be an expert on any particular facet of this material, I just have a reasonable enough familiarity with most of it, to assure myself of it's validity. You would be better served with some independent research, but, if you really believe that a believer in god can prove as valuable to the sciences as a non believer, then you have to go in the same way we do...Not expecting to find god, and willing to not be disappointed if/when you don't.
Exvictus 6 days ago
@Exvictus Where do you think I get those links? There's no need to "find God"...He is always there. What I really need to do, though, is find myself, and where I fit in the world of purpose.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists She didn't make anything, because She doesn't exist.
mphello 5 days ago
@mphello She did exist. Just because you, a fanatical Christian hater, says so, doesn't mean it is so.
Kursinphists 5 days ago
@Kursinphists Im done with you now...no point in arguing with a moronic, closet homo, priest sucking bigot. Get blocked and good luck on being a virgin your whole life, trolling teh interwebz instead of living and loving :D byyyeeee <3
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash I'm done with you too. There's no point or logical reason to argue with an idiotic, closet emo, dog-fucking, flag-burning, stereotyping dickless dumbass. Get lost and good luck being a misery your whole existence, trolling the internet with your poor grammar, and trolling the life you claim to love. Bye to you, hypocrite.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Adherence to religion IS ignorance for that very reason, and what's worse, is that religion is INTENTIONAL ignorance..The intentional eschewing of new knowledge if it dares to fly in the face of what's "known" to be true, or even hints at criticism of religious doctrines. I'll grant that believers can work with science, it can be done and HAS been done, but religion, as an organization, cannot admit to lacks of pre-understanding when they occur.
Exvictus 1 week ago
@Exvictus No, because religion isn't about ignorance. At least, both religion and science used to be about open-mindedness. Religion is supposed to attain knowledge, just as science is to seek out what is truth in the universe. Science without religion is lame, and religion without science is blind. That is a universal truth, and just like truth, it is being shunned today. No one wants to know the truth anymore.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@switchbladeromancex1 It isn't scary, and I am shocked at you; I took you to be more mature than eTrash-talker. I guess you will also be part of the major problems you so concern yourself with, and like those big names I mentioned, you will do nothing.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@eArtrash No, we are not a dying minority. Evolution is a dwindling idea. Face it, eTrash, the proof is everywhere, and evolution has to face the music.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists You are on your own here dude. Just look at the ratings on this video..is that proof that "Evolution is a dwindling idea" and that religion is on the rise? I really dont think so. If you love god so much, and creationism; just go to some bible-basher videos and make some friends, and spread the joy..instead of insulting people here. Call me a trash-talker, yet it appears to be you who is attempting to insult everyone who dare argue with your bullshit religion.
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash Evolution is a dwindling idea; just because you and your lackeys deny it doesn't mean evolution is the truth. Religion has always been on the rise, hello? And, for starters, you and your crownies started insulting me. I only insult people who insult me first, or try and rub out the truth and turn it into a mockery. I dare stand against you any day, pal. And in case you haven't noticed (which is most likely), I am not alone here.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Thats fine. You keep on believing the world was created by a big white dude with a beard 6000 years ago..we will keep believing that life is an evolving nature which we are just a tiny, yet fortunate example of. I dont care what you believe, nor do I want to make you see sense...afterall; you cant make someone disbelieve something that they never "chose" to believe in the first place (i.e you were brainwashed by your parents, school and church). They did a good job, of that. :D
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash Firstly, God isn't a man. Secondly, the Earth is slightly older than 6000 years. Thirdly, I don't care what you believe, either, since it is "Live in your world, let me go get ganked in mine", nor do I want to see why your beliefs make sense only to you. I can't force you to believe otherwise, in fact I encourage you to believe what you want, despite being brainwashed by your parents, school, and "church"), since they did a good job of that.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Whats REALLY amusing here, is the way you argue your point. You take our comments, and "SWAP" the words round to suit YOUR beliefs. A psychologist would probably have a field day with that kinda behavior...but Im just gonna put it down to the fact you are a brainwashed creationist, with no real argument, a huge grudge against normal-thinking humans.... and a whole lot of virginity! I should pity you, but after talking with you, and getting to know you,I think its fucking hilarious.
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash What REALLY amuses me is that you don't understand why I "swap" the words. It isn't to suit my beliefs, it is to put ridicule on your replies. A psychologist would take his vacation time just to find out why you didn't get that, but I'll just say you're a brainwashed evolutionist with no argument and no proof, a ginormous abnormal hatred to humanity and normality, not to mention being hated. I should pity you, but your replies make me laugh at you instead.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Oh and "I dare stand against you any day, pal" ... that makes me laugh even more. The image I have of you in my head is hilarious dude. Hows virginity treating you?
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash Better than it ever treated you. How's an early life with kids and grey hair, Grandpa? That's my image of you, a decrepit and depressed little man with no ambition in life, who's own life is but shambles and troubled youths who constantly do him wrong.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists My life is great dude! Im 25, in good shape, self employed and about to move to France to live with my girlfriend. Got loads of plans and loads of goals, each one keeps getting reached! Life is great, my friend. Hows work at the book store panning out for you, virgin boy? <3
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash Give my regards to the hairy women. Me, I don't work at a book store. Unlike you, I have a steady job where I was hired by a major media corporation, though the subjects brought out aren't always what I hope for, the pay is substantial with the hours. What an epic failure you've fallen in. Oh, and there's nothing wrong with being a virgin; there is, however, something wrong with using the username eTrash. What, you want the username to reflect the real you?
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists eTrash? I think you should learn to read :D Also, french chicks arent hairy...thats a myth...but hry what would YOU know? Heheheeeeee Creatiobist Virgin boy fails again :)
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash EA -videogameloser-Trash fails a fifth time. There's nothing wrong with being a virgin, it is a unique part of being human, but you wouldn't know that given you treat most other humans like an abusive drunk to his own dog. I do feel pity, but not for you; your girlfriend could have done better. Also, you wouldn't know where I've gone, because you weren't there. That's a double-fail for you. Try not to play board games in Europe, since you'll get your ass whooped easily.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists I dont drink, my username has nothind to do with EA. Nice insults though (not), virgin-boy. Keep em coming!! Ps- you Christians are such nice people!! :D
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash Yes, nice username, goes well with who you really are. You couldn't insult a five-year-old, and you are more than welcome to throw your lame excuses at me anytime. P.S, I am only nice to people who don't insult me on a first-meeting basis.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
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@Kursinphists HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thats what the problem is, isnt it? You're mad cause you are a god-fearing virgin, with no friends outside your church..while us Atheists are living it up enjoying life cause we know WE ONLY GET ONE LIFE. Make the most of it, buddy...cause once the ride is over..its over. No heaven, no hell...just OOOVVER. <3 :D
eArtrash 1 week ago
@switchbladeromancex1 Haven't you seen the news? Nobody is doing anything about the major problems of the world. Obama is too busy taking vacations, Bush is too busy with his oil, Romney is too busy getting face time on camera, Newt is too busy being a hypocrite, and I don't even want to know what Hillary is doing. New wars are about to be waged, like between Iran and Israel, and North Korea will be just as worse as it was before.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Far more people will die from your beliefs than anything else. All of the 7 billion people alive who decide for heaven, not earth, will die.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord Wrong again. Three strikes, and you're out!
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists RIGHT as always. You know you will go for immortality on this plane when it comes.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord Only when I accept Jesus into my life, and work to attain the everlasting life.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists BULL SHIT! Renounce immortality attempts on this plane and PROVE it.
InternetDarkLord 6 days ago
@InternetDarkLord Demanding little bugger, aren't you?
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists YES, I demand you practice things you expect other people to believe.
InternetDarkLord 5 days ago
@InternetDarkLord I don't expect other people to believe, I expect people to listen and then make up their own minds.
Kursinphists 5 days ago
@Kursinphists If you refuse to do what you say, they sure will make up their minds: You are a hypocrite and a fraud.
InternetDarkLord 4 days ago
@InternetDarkLord You haven't done anything you said, therefore making you out the true hypocrite and fraud. Your crusade to clean me of what I believe is for naught, just because I'm a sinner like you doesn't sway me from believing in God and living the life He gave me. You should give up your hypocrisy while you still can.
Kursinphists 4 days ago
@Kursinphists I am doing what I say, I believe in scientific immortality, so will I do it. You claim it is impossible, but you will also do it anyway. You know heaven is not there.
InternetDarkLord 3 days ago
Yeah Thunderfoot. In otherwords a 200x200x200 km object traveling at 30 kilometers per second upon impact would release energy equal to a 840,000,000,000 MT explosion. The asteroid that killed the Dinosaurs along with 70% of all life on Earth was only 96,000,000 MT and the worlds entire Nuclear arsenal is only 5,000 MT.
NANOFORGE 1 week ago
escape velocity is about 11.6ms or 34x the speed of sound not 300x. According
to my bible (wikipedia).
Great video tho.
"Science will win because its useful"- Steven Hawking
HannoverFisk 1 week ago
1080 creationists?
sinachiniforoosh 1 week ago
Why not?
sinachiniforoosh 1 week ago
@Kursinphists ALL the things you listed as practicing are just words. You will prove evolution is true the same way I will, by doing it. If you disagree, PROVE it, renounce immortality attempts on this plane. You will not.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord Evolution isn't true, and I've proved that more than enough. Renouncing immortality attempts on this plane won't reveal the truth about evolution, only research and logic. You will not do either.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists NO, I will use science to become immortal and join evolution. So will you.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord I'm not going to join an idea I don't agree.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists So renounce immortality attempts on this plane.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord So prove God doesn't exist.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists You already did, you claim all gods like Zeus or Thor were mere people except one. So just stop making one dumb exception to your own proof.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord It's not an exception, God is the only God in existence. You can ask Him yourself when you see Him.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists How do you know you will not see Thor, Zeus, or Brahman instead?
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to my Father but by Me."
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Why should I believe that over the Koran, the Vedas, the Tao Te Ching...?
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord In your case, I suggest the big book of "Help, I've Gone Crazy for Dummies". I hear it works on a lot of nutcases such as yourself.
But as for the Bible, it's God's word against the words of other men.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists How do you know which scroll is God's and which is by men?
InternetDarkLord 6 days ago
@InternetDarkLord The scrolls are the recordings of God's works, and how He works through the universe, through nature, and through men themselves. Wisdom is used by God, and only attained at certain points by men, yet there are times when God will speak through men. The scrolls are records passed down through the generations, recording the works of God. So, in a way, all the scrolls of the Bible are God's.
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists BULL SHIT, How do you know WHICH old scrolls are recordings of God,s works or not? Do you have experiments?
InternetDarkLord 5 days ago
@InternetDarkLord Witness testimonies.
Kursinphists 5 days ago
@Kursinphists ALL can claim eyewitness testimonies, WHICH ones do you know are correct, and HOW?
InternetDarkLord 4 days ago
@InternetDarkLord The eyewitness testimonies of the original Bible, those who received the testimonies passed down from the voice of God, are the truthful ones.
Kursinphists 4 days ago
@Kursinphists How do you know that?
InternetDarkLord 3 days ago
@Kursinphists Let's see, you believe in witches, seraphs, cherubs with flaming swords, a talking serpent, a talking donkey, a bronze stick curing snakebite, sticks that turn into snakes, a man walking on water, dead bodies rising, a river turning into blood, the Nile drying up, a woman who turns into a pillar of salt, a man going to heaven in a flying chariot, demons possessing pigs, a 969 year old man, supernatural virgin birth, what did I miss?
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord How about the fact that evolution doesn't exist, there is no fact backing up evolution, and you being a big retarded shit-faced mindless screw-up who couldn't count backwards unless he was drunk?
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists 1. Read Talk Origins.
2. If you do not believe what I say, renounce immortality on this plane. You know you won't.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord I don't believe what you say, nor will I obey you.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Wrong, you will not obey your own dog shit beliefs. It makes no difference what you or I say.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord I don't obey dog shit beliefs like murdering my own flesh and blood, nor the orders of some fanatic wanting me to commit murder. It makes no difference what you say, my beliefs are not dog shit, and I am not as stiff and as inflexible as you.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Becoming immortality on this plane is sane and logical, so YOU will practice it, not just me.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord Becoming immortal when the time comes and having earned it is sane and logical. Believing something that's been disproved again and again, time and time again, is not only illogical, it is insanity.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
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@Kursinphists Believing something that's been disproved again and again, time and time again, is not only illogical, it is insanity.
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash Just like evolution.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAA!
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash I know, I find the idea of evolution hilarious as well. I mean, this is the same idea people keep calling fact and yet it keeps getting disproved. There are scientists who don't believe in evolution, and yet no one is listening to logic or reason anymore, they are in only for the money. That is funny.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAA!
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash I know, I find you funny too.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
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eArtrash 1 week ago
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Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Liar. Evolution has NEVER been disproved at all, by anyone, ever.
The very few scientists who espouse creationism are almost exclusively not biologists or geologists, and have zero credibility. To suggest virtually every scientist is in on a big cash conspiracy is such an abysmally stupid comment that it hardly merits contradiction.
carmium 1 week ago
@carmium Liar, Evolution has ALWAYS been disproved by many scientists who didn't agree with evolution. They are biologists, and have been studying the subject since before you were alive. The only reason you give them zero credibility is for your lack of perception beyond the illogical choice of a lie. It's not just about cash for almost every evolutionist, it's about being right at any cost. To suggest that evolution is the truth is to claim with no real proof.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@carmium He's a joke.Just laugh at him. :)
eArtrash 1 week ago
@eArtrash You are a joke. I laugh at you.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists NO, it was never disproved any more than any previous medical advance before its time.
Insanity is believing you will live forever because you believe a book with: a talking snake, a talking donkey, cherubs, seraphs, witches, demons possessing pigs, the Nile drying up, sticks turning into snakes, a river turning into blood, a bronze stick curing snakebite, dead bodies rising from the dead, a 969 year old man, supernatural virgin birth...
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord No, insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result, which you've done constantly.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists When were the human immortality experiments I gave you, like reversing aging in mice in Harvard, done before? Why does reversing aging in mice constitute "expecting a different result?"
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord You'll just be doing it over and over with a finite amount of stem cells, but they'll break down with time, until you have no more. Since those stem cells don't last forever, neither will the person being injected with them.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Except I did not cite only stem cell research, that is only a fraction of immortality research. Again, you are completely ignorant of the issue.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord I'm not ignorant of the issue, you keep eluding the links I gave you, proving your ignorance. The fact that we can prolong life doesn't mean we'll be immortal on this plane because both you and I know that whatever is used to help organic life like us will inevitably break down. That goes for medicine, that goes for minerals and vitamins, and that goes for energy.
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Prove it, renounce immortality attempts on this plane.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago
@InternetDarkLord Why haven't you proved immortality? Is it because you know those stem cells don't last forever, and inevitably neither will the subject of those cells?
Kursinphists 1 week ago
@Kursinphists Because immortality is still an ongoing process. If you disagree, renounce it.
InternetDarkLord 6 days ago
@InternetDarkLord Funny, since nothing so far has proven to live forever upon this plane due to the second law of thermodynamics, yet you continue to argue that this law doesn't apply to everything, and you are willing to lay your life on the line for that. In a way, you would die for what you believe in, won't you?
Kursinphists 6 days ago
@Kursinphists And absolutely nothing proves that gods or a god exists.
mphello 5 days ago
@mphello Yet no one can prove He doesn't exist. Just as no one can prove evolution is an absolute truth.
Kursinphists 5 days ago
@Kursinphists NO< I asked for math proving even a million, or even BILLION year lifespan is ruled out by thermodynamics. You gave me none.
Will you renounce immortality on this plane for your beliefs?
InternetDarkLord 5 days ago
@InternetDarkLord Because YouTube won't allow the certain math I tried showing you? Have I not made that clear?
Kursinphists 5 days ago
@Kursinphists BULL SHIT, I write mathematical things out in words all the time.
InternetDarkLord 3 days ago
@Kursinphists I never said the second law does not apply to anything, I said it does not prove your bull shit. You gave silly excuses about being unable to type the math, then dropped the subject.
InternetDarkLord 9 hours ago
@InternetDarkLord Wrong, the second law proves what I have said, therefore making it logical and not bullshit, unlike the crap you dug up. You give ludicrous excuses about being unable to provide the experiments disproving both God and Heaven, then change the matter.
Kursinphists 1 hour ago
@Kursinphists I will. The next stage of human evolution is scientific immortality. I will join, and so will you.
InternetDarkLord 1 week ago