I love the way Dr. Breeding is so supportive of people who experience psychic openings, as he calls it. Mental patients liberation people are wonderful. They saved my life in San Francisco in the 1970s.
Verfy,cool,and universally correct......Challenge and question all authority,is one of my virtues.....I love your work and wish you and yours well.....
I never understood how ECT should help depression, when an injured brain releases chemicals that cause it to be 'depressed.' Plus, causing additional injury to a brain can impact mood and behavior and physiology....Hrmmmm.
I have the roky dvd, didn't his brother actually go to court to get him help and the proper medication, according to his own documentary the catalyst for his recovery was antipsychotic medication.
Call me weird if you want but after all I've seen in life I have to ask if there is a consequence or several consequences for using ones rights to refuse medical treatment?
Like do medical insurance companies stop insuring those medical consumers who choose to refuse medical care that a doctor recommends or prescribes?
Insurance company don't like to pay. They wouldn't care if refused treatment. That might affect your life insurance but not your health insurance.
Insurance companies often charge people with mental health histories higher or premiums or out and out refuse to cover them though. Mental health treatment is long term symptom management without curing anything, so it's very expensive.
Sorry that Leonard has had such a rough time. My experience has been much different. I have had over 60 ECT treatments...they helped save my life. I had temporary short term memory loss BUT based on testing and experience no long term memory loss. I wrote a book that Barry Morrow, oscar winner for Rain Man, called "...a careworn treasure chest of gems." I am glad that my ECT treatments had a better outcome than Leonards.
it is always a good idea to not throw the baby out with the bathwater, and i do think that ECT can be helpful therapeutically for a small group of people who have either exhausted others modalities of therapy or for other reasons decide ECT would be beneficial. to me, and i've never personally experienced ECT, it seems like methadone; sure it has helped save countless lives, but countless more have become further debilitated in one way or another. thanks for sharing your experience.
Unfortunately we are not at the stage of "certainty" in neuroscience that we are in other areas of health. Thankfully we have some exciting new tools to help us push ahead. Thanks for replying.
Sumner himself knew that Roky needed medication that his mother was denying him. Most schizophrenics slip bak into illness due to the fact that they need their medication. I just pray that Roky will remain healthy. If you deny that schizophrenia exists then you have to choose the only other option, that their is spritual interferance from dark element and that they need to be driven out.
No one believes that the experience of schizophrenia isn't real. What is at question is if it is a biological abnormality or a psychological state. The gentleman in the video with Dr. Breeding was diagnosed with schizophrenia, given ECT for it, institutionalized for it. Does he look crazy or coherent to you? His schizophrenia went away and he has been off medications for over 25 years now.
There is really no evidence to indicate other than schizophrenia being a temporary extreme state of mind. 3 separate World Health Organization studies have shown that recovery rates for schizophrenia are higher in 3rd world countries where antipsychotic drugs aren't as commonly used.
A person has the right to make his own decision about medical treatments unless this right has been removed by a mental health court.
I will say this, I'm glad that's Sumner was able to save Roky, but Sumner seems to be a bit unbalanced and eating a spoon full of sugar coated shit. I hope that Roky doesn't lose it again due to stopping his meds, which is what happens to most schizophrenics.
this isn't true actually. Long term follow up studies on Schizophrenics have shown that the majority of them actually eventually fully recover without the need of medication.
Three separate World Health Organization studies (done over three decades) have show that recovery rates for schizophrenics are higher in third world countries where medications aren't used to the extent they are in the US.
One of my best friend has shock therapy for his mental disorder and he is a big supporter of it. He says that it saved his live and restored his sanity, so I'm not sure what to think. I can't imagine it being a healthful treatment, but it seems to have been a rare positive experience for him. Wanting shock treatment to end is not the part that I take issue with.
I've met about two dozen people that have received ECT and one of them claimed it helped them and a few of them have been seriously brain damaged from it.
Thanks Mr. Franks and Dr Breeding. I to have been through this senseless Treatment. It did nothing for my mental health. DID NOT CURE A CHEMICAL IMBALANCE IN MY BRAIN! Only damaged my brain, Put me in the worst mental state I have ever been in in my life. I do not wallow in self pity. This practice needs to be Abolished FOREVER!!!!!!!
I guess they must be telling the truth, LOOK AT THOSE BEARDS! How could they lie hahaha
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Slooter77 1 year ago
He will delete your comment if it contradicts his opinion. The man is not tp be trusted.
macdisciple 1 year ago
Please, will someone in this feild please read my channel and direct me as to how I can help my son. Please
ACEMOM2010 2 years ago
I love the way Dr. Breeding is so supportive of people who experience psychic openings, as he calls it. Mental patients liberation people are wonderful. They saved my life in San Francisco in the 1970s.
rosebudblacklace 2 years ago
Verfy,cool,and universally correct......Challenge and question all authority,is one of my virtues.....I love your work and wish you and yours well.....
blackowl6 2 years ago
Bugs lifes a good story about state control
soursuck 2 years ago
I never understood how ECT should help depression, when an injured brain releases chemicals that cause it to be 'depressed.' Plus, causing additional injury to a brain can impact mood and behavior and physiology....Hrmmmm.
RiniPeeg 2 years ago
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Rotulette 2 years ago
i love you, guys! i've been electroshocked too, but i survived. i know the brutality and horror of this so-called treatment.
onlythousandsofme 3 years ago 4
Revealing and intersting...I'm going to look at Leornard Roy Frank's published materials.
MuntucoGer1 3 years ago
I have the roky dvd, didn't his brother actually go to court to get him help and the proper medication, according to his own documentary the catalyst for his recovery was antipsychotic medication.
SaltyDaviss 3 years ago
Michelle Shocked rocks
wudaolong 3 years ago
I feel like I may have just gotten my get out of jail free card.
Seabrook78in 3 years ago
Call me weird if you want but after all I've seen in life I have to ask if there is a consequence or several consequences for using ones rights to refuse medical treatment?
Like do medical insurance companies stop insuring those medical consumers who choose to refuse medical care that a doctor recommends or prescribes?
Seabrook78in 3 years ago 2
Insurance company don't like to pay. They wouldn't care if refused treatment. That might affect your life insurance but not your health insurance.
Insurance companies often charge people with mental health histories higher or premiums or out and out refuse to cover them though. Mental health treatment is long term symptom management without curing anything, so it's very expensive.
psychetruth 3 years ago
Thanks for that quick reply.
Seabrook78in 3 years ago
haldol=haloperidol?
vladimirovk 3 years ago
yes
psychetruth 3 years ago
I am against INVOLUNTARY ECT, in all cases. Unless the patient is catatonic and left a psychiatric advance directive allowing ECT.
bahjesse 3 years ago
Sorry that Leonard has had such a rough time. My experience has been much different. I have had over 60 ECT treatments...they helped save my life. I had temporary short term memory loss BUT based on testing and experience no long term memory loss. I wrote a book that Barry Morrow, oscar winner for Rain Man, called "...a careworn treasure chest of gems." I am glad that my ECT treatments had a better outcome than Leonards.
daleshankins 3 years ago
it is always a good idea to not throw the baby out with the bathwater, and i do think that ECT can be helpful therapeutically for a small group of people who have either exhausted others modalities of therapy or for other reasons decide ECT would be beneficial. to me, and i've never personally experienced ECT, it seems like methadone; sure it has helped save countless lives, but countless more have become further debilitated in one way or another. thanks for sharing your experience.
AhzamatBagathov 3 years ago
Unfortunately we are not at the stage of "certainty" in neuroscience that we are in other areas of health. Thankfully we have some exciting new tools to help us push ahead. Thanks for replying.
Peace
daleshankins 3 years ago
this is so trippy! the beards. and they're talking about the brain...:D
2dust2 4 years ago
Sumner himself knew that Roky needed medication that his mother was denying him. Most schizophrenics slip bak into illness due to the fact that they need their medication. I just pray that Roky will remain healthy. If you deny that schizophrenia exists then you have to choose the only other option, that their is spritual interferance from dark element and that they need to be driven out.
DEEDEEZOMBIE 4 years ago
No one believes that the experience of schizophrenia isn't real. What is at question is if it is a biological abnormality or a psychological state. The gentleman in the video with Dr. Breeding was diagnosed with schizophrenia, given ECT for it, institutionalized for it. Does he look crazy or coherent to you? His schizophrenia went away and he has been off medications for over 25 years now.
psychetruth 4 years ago
You wrote: "His schizophrenia went away and he has been off medications for over 25 years now."
I think there must have been some things that he has had to do to make sure he could go on with his life without the drugs.
What did Leonard Roy Frank do to get to the point he is at now?
Is he breaking any laws by choosing to discontinue the use of the prescribed meds seeing as he has been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic?
Seabrook78in 3 years ago
There is really no evidence to indicate other than schizophrenia being a temporary extreme state of mind. 3 separate World Health Organization studies have shown that recovery rates for schizophrenia are higher in 3rd world countries where antipsychotic drugs aren't as commonly used.
A person has the right to make his own decision about medical treatments unless this right has been removed by a mental health court.
psychetruth 3 years ago
Thanks for the reply.
Seabrook78in 3 years ago
I don't think Mr. Frank looks crazy. He actually appears to be calm, collected and intelligent.
Seabrook78in 3 years ago 2
I will say this, I'm glad that's Sumner was able to save Roky, but Sumner seems to be a bit unbalanced and eating a spoon full of sugar coated shit. I hope that Roky doesn't lose it again due to stopping his meds, which is what happens to most schizophrenics.
DEEDEEZOMBIE 4 years ago
this isn't true actually. Long term follow up studies on Schizophrenics have shown that the majority of them actually eventually fully recover without the need of medication.
Three separate World Health Organization studies (done over three decades) have show that recovery rates for schizophrenics are higher in third world countries where medications aren't used to the extent they are in the US.
psychetruth 4 years ago
One of my best friend has shock therapy for his mental disorder and he is a big supporter of it. He says that it saved his live and restored his sanity, so I'm not sure what to think. I can't imagine it being a healthful treatment, but it seems to have been a rare positive experience for him. Wanting shock treatment to end is not the part that I take issue with.
DEEDEEZOMBIE 4 years ago
I've met about two dozen people that have received ECT and one of them claimed it helped them and a few of them have been seriously brain damaged from it.
psychetruth 4 years ago
I had shock treatment along my spine...it was supposed
to help my anxiety. I later developed paranoid scz and
my anxiety is worse than ever but at least the scz has
left me. Just fired my p-doc and the meds that came with him.
area24isme 4 years ago
I would have thought that shock treatments were banned a long time ago. This is appalling. Thankyou for the videos.
papackar 4 years ago
Thanks Mr. Franks and Dr Breeding. I to have been through this senseless Treatment. It did nothing for my mental health. DID NOT CURE A CHEMICAL IMBALANCE IN MY BRAIN! Only damaged my brain, Put me in the worst mental state I have ever been in in my life. I do not wallow in self pity. This practice needs to be Abolished FOREVER!!!!!!!
psychpatient101 4 years ago
IF you think your psychiatrist is free of this badge of shame. Your wrong- Its required in there training that they carry out this BARBARIC ACT....
psychpatient101 4 years ago
Lou Reed is another shock survivor.
ethers 4 years ago 2
you can tell these dudes party it up in the 60's.
shandling 4 years ago
Is it just me or do psychologists always have beards?
Sammysoc 4 years ago
i noticed that too
ranera 4 years ago
i want to be a psychologist 0 im going to uni next year and i have a beard,
DMcLean1989 4 years ago
you are 18 right? or 19? is 1989 the year of your birth? Anyway, you are young and things might still change.
ranera 4 years ago
150 people a year shocked a year at one hospital? That is HORRIBLE!
CompanionableIlls 4 years ago 2