There is a horrible growth in this slanted far-right media. The Tories, in the UK, are trying to overturn the legislation that forces TV news to be impartial and non-partisan.
On the internet there are hundreds of little Murdochs-in-waiting, one of the worst is a fascist DJ from Texas who has literally dozens of web-sites spewing out extremist-propaganda and wholly fictious news stories to an army of far-right cultists, some of whom have actually performed terrorist attacks.
Modernfreestyle, I just love the way you morons use the words "socialist" and "czar" interchangeably to describe Democrats. I swear, you are like a bunch of defective windup dolls.
"No bias" and yet "everyone's a conservative to a liberal"? Like liberals can't recognize their own kind. In that case, I must be bi-partisan. I just can't stand Republicans.
No conservatives on news programs other than Fox.? He lied so easily without getting called on it by the interviewer . The whole piece was garbage. This was very disappointing.
yea but you dont see them invoking levitican dogma. they dont go around damning people. i really dont think ive ever heard a liberal claim that a republican is going to hell for ideology. any rational christian democrat (is there a such thing as a 3-dimensional oxymoron???) could make a reasonable case for bush and the war mongers going to hell but they usually refrain from that sort of thing.
I think when they say "fair and balanced" it means,watch FAUX Neocon news,then watch The Family Guy,that's pretty balanced eh? One pushes the epitome of a stereotypical conservative,and the other the epitome stereotypical liberal.
this interviewer is a d*ckrider, and the interviewee needs to watch that documentary on fox news, they have agenda's that shut down alternative news stories
With all other news services spewing white house and congress propaganda, there needs to be more programs that investigate the facts and exposes the fallibility of the white house and congress.
But, the question is, will FOX continue to report with integrity on Washington when the republicans have control?
it almost surprises me that fox would have alex jones on(maybe it shouldnt surprise me as jones is a right-wing icon with no real right-wing discipline) but they are desparately trying to co-opt the current libertarian movement in the u.s. so they can turn it into neo-neo-conservatism. let me assure you that it WONT work
Alex Jones is by no means a conservative or a Libertarian. He is a nut job conspiracy theorist. If Fox News is letting him on they do it at there own risk.
I Listen Alex Jones. He maybe go a little bit nuts sometimes and same something a bit weird but he highlights very important and relevant things that the mainstream media choose to discuss. And you can even look up and verify his stated facts - most of the time he tells where to look.
He also has some important guests on his show.
I considered him a nut job but I, admittedly, never even watched his show. I only started watching after I heard about ISP's certain sites including his.
i agree that to some degree he highlights very important and relevant things that the mainstream media chooses NOT to discuss, but about 85-90% of the time he's talking about goofy ass conspiracy theories that arent relevant at all.
he's pretty conservative and he claims to be a libertarian but he's that type of non-libertarian libertarian that will advocate state intervention when it suits his needs. but he's got a built in audience and he's more right than left so fox news will have him.
what about john perkins the leftist conspiracy theorist?? he's like the alex jones of the left. did you know who he was before the recent foratv videos?
haha, really?? thats been disputed for years. you should familiarize yourself with his book, confessions of an economic hitman, he falls somewhere between alex jones and david icke in the list of conspiracy nuts.
I don't know the book, only of it. Was he lying about his past employment? And I have no doubt he is at least marginally more sensible than Ickes. Where are the lizardmen sex fiends in Perkins' book?
He doesn't need to be lying about his past employment to be seen for the fraud he is. Just because someone is stretching the truth doesn't mean they aren't a liar.
Well, if he was actually working in the industry like he claims, he would know better if the truth was stretched than someone on Youtube who has their own political agenda, like weewee988. But I'm not here to defend Perkins, I've never read his book. Besides, I've read the primary documents on plenty of things I'm sure he talks about, so I'm not worried about it.
well just so you know i was putting icke at the extremely insane end of the spectrum with jones at least marginally more sensible than perkins but im no alex jones fan as you can see from my comments above.
im as far to the right, politically, as almost anyone i know and let me just assure you that the fair and balanced slogan is a joke. their slogan should be, Fox news: at least were not total leftist scum!
i have both liberal and conservative sides that do battle daily.
my liberal side thinks faux news should be shut down and some sort of charges should be filed for all their lies.
my conservative side on the other hand feels they're contributing to the fail of what could be a great country... and so the owners, producers and "talent" should be dragged out into the street and shot on live tv.
That doesn't sound like both sides. Yeah maybe both conflicting liberal sides, but certainly not true conservative. Nice try though. You silly prankster. Tricks are for kids! =)
lets not start confusing conservative and liberal with right and left, they are very different. i'm not conservative at all but im as far right on the political spectrum as anyone out there.
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Its funny you mention those, they are the ones ruined by typical right wing economic policies of consolidation of wealth into a few private hands through government welfare, then attempting to blame and punish the general public for its greedy mismanagement (ie see US bank bailout)
yea of course, freedom always ruins governments. wtf are you talking about?? fiscal irresponsibility is 100% to blame with the current european national bankruptcies. bad monetary policy was to blame for the situation in the u.s. that led to the bailouts. do you even know the difference between monetary and fiscal or am i going to have to explain that to you?
Right, just like us Atheists should move to a country that wasn't built on the Bible? Maybe instead of supporting your flawed ideology by ignoring facts, you conservatives should pick up a history book.
maybe if you had any grasp on what a free market is, or what socialism is you wouldnt have to rely on news agencies to do the thinking for you. the term free market is theoretical in the same way the number zero is. this is also true of the concept of total or complete socialism. socialism is an application of policies in government whether incremental or totalitarian.
I don't think I'm the one who needs to think about what a free market is, and what socialism means. In fact, why don't I let you define each for me, as best you can.
i didnt realize i was dealing with one of those people that can make tones out of youtube comments. lets face it, there was NO tone, no snarkiness, you were reaching. I stand by my original reply to you and it's clear to all that you havent defended any position in reply.
Haha, buddy, neither one of us has posited a "position" on anything. I love a good reasonable discussion about politics. I'd like to think that I've had a few here on Youtube. But when you start with telling me I don't understand x when you really don't know shit about what I know, well, where are we? Or telling someone "the state is your religion"? If you want to take some pretend higher moral ground, be my guest. But I'm not here to be your strawman, so you'll reap what you've sown.
posited a position?? really??? its pretty darn impressive that you actually know 2 forms of a word but in english we choose on or the other. in the original reply to you i stated, the term free market is theoretical in the same way the number zero is. this is also true of the concept of total or complete socialism. socialism is an application of policies in government whether incremental or totalitarian.
is that not a position? i know plenty of people that would disagree with it.
Hence the quotation marks, but whatever, lets get to the meat here. Yeah, the free market is a theoretical point much like zero on a line. I can see how a true free market is like absolute zero; the efficient, robotic flow of goods and services free of corruption and ruled by instananeous market adjustment. Thats not a position or an argument any more than saying being a Christian requires believing Christ is the son of god. An argument is why acheiving it is A) desirable and B) possible.
What you replaced your potential for an argument with was an insult. One which assumed I knew nothing about a subject because I didn't see it your way. I know 500 characters and a lot of idiots, Youtube is full of the most inane uninformed opinionated comments, and I've gotten into my share of trolling back at trolls. It has its own charm, I agree.
it was obvious from your comment that you rely on news agencies to tell you if we have a free market or socialism, i actually use my own analysis for that, you can too!! perhaps i'm wrong and it was some sort of miscommunication but you never bothered to defend your comment. if you wish to argue with me about the state replacing religion in the leftist mindset then i would have that argument with you. try stating your position. i dont know what pretend moral high ground youre referring to.
My feelings about the free market and socialism and all the other market tools come from my upbringing, my internal feelings of fairness and 15 years of amateur and directed study in current events, economics, sociology and history. I can't remember the last time a news agency tried to tell me what a free market is, but it sure is not how I developed my ideas about anything, except for the general uselessness of news agencies in the modern age, especially tv, where opinion replaces reporting.
this is the first comment where you actually attempted to defend your original comment, as for my position not being a position, there are plenty of people that would disagree with the statement i made, whether you and i agree that they are wrong is irrelevant. do u even know what a troll is?
My original comment was a joke, a reference to all of the libertarians who say you ca't blame current economic problems on the free market because our current economic/financial situation did not happen in a free market. Which is a misunderstanding of criticisms of the free market. So to the extent that my comment was a "position", it was said in jest.
Well, I suppose a lot of jokes could be made. I didn't clarify because I didn't think it needed clarification. I can see how sarcasm doesn't really carry on the internets though.
My actual position is something like this. There will never be a free market, There will always be those trying with insider power trying to game the system and gain more power at the expense of everyone else. The "free" market is nothing more than an intellectual tool used by those in power to further their ends. Its more complicated than that, but thats the quick summary.
my position is much easier to explain, i dont advocate the use of force against non-aggressors.
lobbying the state for regulations, barriers to entry and special protections is the only way certain people can gain more power at the expense of everyone else. you really have no idea what youre talking about when you call the free market an intellectual tool. its funny how simply misunderstanding terms can guide ones ideology so far.
so do you advocate the use of force against non-aggressors?
Define aggressor. Is a person artificially inflating the cost of foodstuffs, leading to an increase in mortality, an aggressor? Is a person profiting off of property they only posess because their ancestors stole it with violence an agressor? Is an insurance company that denies me health coverage I paid for because they know they can afford better lawyers than me an aggressor?
no, no and no. i dont think you know the difference between inflation and price level. the problems you just described can only be caused by the state. why would i care if kraft starts charging 13$ for a frozen pizza, i'll just stop buying kraft pizza. i'm not in favor of arbitrarily retroactive system of property rights but thats not what this is about. i dont deny that its a good point for debate but you cant seem to come up with a solution that isnt arbitrary. the insurance thing is nonsense
Actually regulations can happen for a lot of reasons. And yes, many regulations do get passed as a result of false self interest. Which is why transparency and checks and balances are key elements in a political system. But a simple anecdotal look at 19th century medicine and its quacks shows me that we're better off with an FDA than without.
false self-interest? what? you just called a system of government a political system, how old are you, if you dont mind me asking? you favor the fda because you have no idea what life would be like without it. not to mention that youre ignoring the fact that we are further along in society now. youre crediting the FDA with the progress that technology has brought us. this shows a religious approach to the state on your part. the FDA didnt usher in the 20th century, technology did.
Because thats the juice of my argument. Your argument sounds nice, but its an impossible fantasy. "I don't advocate violence against non-aggressors". Great. Its so simple, so brilliant, so meaningless. And you might be suprised to know you're not the first to state this simple axiom to me. You would be the first to show where its ever been applicable outside of Mises' imagination, though.
hahaha i love how you think non-aggression is an impossible fantasy. face it, you advocate the use of force against non-aggressors because you believe it is in your self interest. you feel like you couldnt compete in a free society and thats understandable but your advocacy of force and aggression is absolutely inescapable. and it doesnt surprise me that youve talked to libertarians in an era of tremendous growth of libertarianism.
Why should I believe that a society run on non-aggression is possible? I mean, I don't believe fish can live out of water. I don't believe monkeys can build an elevator to Mars. Until someone shows me something approaching evidence, I'm not going to believe in anyone's utopia. And I can believe libertarians are getting more popular. Islam is also very popular. Popularity isn't proof of anything.
youre simply not undersatanding the axiom. its like if i say that team sports are based on the undisputable a priori proposition, WIN EVERY POSSESSION OF EVERY GAME, that doesnt mean its realistic that a team will win every possession of every game, yet if the participants dont hold this as their 1st principle sports would just be a mish-mosh of players deciding when the best time to put forth the effort they think they need to win the game or match.
Funny how liberals are always whining about FOX as if MSNBC, CNN, CSNBC and all the other net networks aren't liberal. Shit, one of the reason FOX is the highest rates is because every thing else is liberal. I'd admit FOX is conservative leaning and there is nothing wrong with that. You have your many liberal networks to chose from. We only have FOX. So stop whining.
So by your standards, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, ABC, CBS..etc are "fair and balanced, right? Pfft... If you really hate FOX, here is a novel idea... don't watch it!! Until the fictitious job of FCC Diversity Czar Mark Lloyd shuts FOX down, it isn't going anywhere. :)
FOX is not a counterpoint to CNN; it's a counterpoint to People's Daily or Al Jazeera. In fact, I think Al Jazeera may even be less biased than FOX. Beck and O'Reilly are about as reliable as Baghdad Bob.
Beck and Oreilly aren't news anchors, they're commentators and it's their job to give their opinions. I can see how some folks may not be used to this distinction if they normally watch the other networks.
no, as a matter of fact i was pointing out how silly thefalliblefiends comment was as if he was saying that you noticed but people who watch fox dont. i dont watch fox but im about as far to the right of the political spectrum as you can get. i agree about o'reilly and beck and i really like john stossel.
This guy is full of it! FOX is always skewing opinion! Like notice how they neglected to mention tyhat yesterday, Palin admited using the Canadian health care system as the US was too far away and not accessible
Bill O'Reilly reports without telling people what to think? He has a segment in which he describes people as pinheads. Quite the seasoned journalist isn't he?
yes, because allowing expert-in-nothing blowhards like Glenn Beck airtime, thereby encouraging and sustaining the public's social and scientific illiteracy, and paranoia is "fair and balanced." Fox actually goes after the experts and the academics, disputes them unduly, creating the illusion of controversy where none exists --- a practice which is precedent to totalitarianism (for anyone who studies history).
Fox is shilling for the small group of wealthy & elite. Period.
You can't honestly say that msnbc is less biased then Fox. At least watching fox I don't have to listen to smug assholes bashing the second amendment and the whole idea of smaller government.
I can actually honestly say that MSNBC is less biased. They, at least, either do not lie openly or come out later and explain their position. Besides, "no" conservatives? Except for Pat Buchanan and Scarborough, I guess he means. And Chris Matthews has said he voted for Bush II. Ailes simply lies in this video, which is nothing new for a Peter Robinson interview.
Uh, excuse me, what anchors of an equivalent 'liberal' bent to either of those has Fox even ever given the opportunity to air, let alone fire. Besides,Tucker Carlson isn't even a conservative, he's just a gasbag. Paul Begala is just as much of a gasbag, which is why they got their own show shouting talking points at each other. TV news isn't about ideas (Dobbs was fired for being controversial, not conservative) its about ratings. Thats why I avoid it all.
MSNBC didn't organize an anti-government rally; nor have they organized any pro-government rallies.
Statistically, MSNBC watchers are significantly more informed over current affairs than FOX News watchers.
Those are facts; I don't need to posit an opinion against FOX because they're so blatantly biased and uninformative, any claim to the contrary is laughable.
there's nothing wrong with an anti-government rally. You are an Ideologue, your statistics came right out of your ass. MSNBC didn't cover any teaparty events they just harassed people holding babies and called people names.
Actually, a number of polls, done by the Guardian, WSJ, CNN, MSNBC, MediaMatters and others have shown that, on specific facts, regular Fox News viewers know less than viewers of other channels. A lot of the specified polls focus on the health care bill, so who knows, maybe Fox viewers are more informed about something else, like which blond girl is missing today or what Sean Penn has said about 'real' Americans.
MSNBC maybe more biased than Fox "News" at times, but at least they use a concept Fox doesn't understand. And that would consist of being honest. Good example is when on 4/11/09 Neil Cavuto said Fox covered the Milllion Man March on 10/15/95. How exactly did they cover an event that occured nearly a year before they started on 10/7/96? Also news networks are suppose to cover the news not sponsor it like Fox "News" did with the tax day tea parties.
well yall better get that lynch mob out for Cavuto being off by a full year when talking about something that happened a decade and a half ago. Fox did the only tea party coverage and not do hit pieces on them like MSNBC.
I'm not saying he was off by a year, I'm saying HE LIED! "We were there for the Million Man March," said Neil Cavuto on the Fox Business, 4/11/09. Please explain how you can be at something when your network did EXIST until 51 weeks later? Also was it "fair and balanced" when Hannity showed the protest rally in D.C. on Nov 5 and to show the size of the crowd they showed video from Beck's 9/12 rally instead?
If Orwell included Fox News into one of his books people would have thought it was to unrealistic and cartoonish. 2+2=5 is more believable then Fox News being fair and balanced.
Conservatives are the motivated ones out on offensive. I expect to get voted down in every comment I make. It's just the natural cycle of politics. When the Republicans are back in charge they will die down, and the tea party movement will turn into the, "support the president or else you're unpatriotic" movement, overnight (assuming they take the white house in 2012).
As many liberals? No, it's just that one guy, what's his face, that's it. Also, allowing glen beck to have a show means that your networks suck rating is automaticly at ten. This video is going to get so many bad comments from people it's not even funny.
Ridiculous, has this guy ever seen his own programming? Every single host voice their opinion about every topic. Fox News continues with double-speak.
Mr. Ailes is SOOOOO out of touch with the real world that he believes his own propaganda. Fox news has "liberals" who????? The man who opened Capone's vault....oh please... Fox news is self deceived and blind to it.
@DonSSanders I'm a Canuck and most of the Fox News I see is here on youtube, they may not have intelligent or well spoken liberals but they certainly do have a token on most of the videos I have seen.
There is a horrible growth in this slanted far-right media. The Tories, in the UK, are trying to overturn the legislation that forces TV news to be impartial and non-partisan.
On the internet there are hundreds of little Murdochs-in-waiting, one of the worst is a fascist DJ from Texas who has literally dozens of web-sites spewing out extremist-propaganda and wholly fictious news stories to an army of far-right cultists, some of whom have actually performed terrorist attacks.
Very disturbing...
asubjectiveopinion 10 months ago
other than shep smith, what libs are on fox?
agent1up 1 year ago
Is that Jabba the Hutt?
geezzerboy 1 year ago
ROGER AILES = CARTMAN
jbugko 1 year ago
Modernfreestyle, I just love the way you morons use the words "socialist" and "czar" interchangeably to describe Democrats. I swear, you are like a bunch of defective windup dolls.
jbugko 1 year ago
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excellent work!
1888junkteam 1 year ago
I honestly think that Fox is THEE most dangerous propaganda machine on the planet, nevermind just in america.
kmardes 1 year ago
FOX is so notorious that now ANYthing claiming to be "fair and balanced" automatically looks bad.
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
This fat lying greasy hog is the icon of gluttony and selfish dishonesty. Enjoy your money now, Roger, because your legacy is a pile of shit.
planetdarwin 1 year ago 4
I always knew there was a fat rich white fucktard behind Fox News.... well I guess there he is!
planetdarwin 1 year ago
How to tell Roger Ailes is lying? His lips are moving.
What a douche!
KHAT0VAR 1 year ago 2
Total lies.
On1yCheryl 1 year ago
"No bias" and yet "everyone's a conservative to a liberal"? Like liberals can't recognize their own kind. In that case, I must be bi-partisan. I just can't stand Republicans.
MultiPaulinator 1 year ago
a single person cannot be bi-partisan, you would be a centrist. there are a lot more options than democrat and republican though...
ytrytr655 1 year ago
Good point. That was a bad analogy. Hopefully you saw the point tho... :-|
MultiPaulinator 1 year ago
No conservatives on news programs other than Fox.? He lied so easily without getting called on it by the interviewer . The whole piece was garbage. This was very disappointing.
sKepptiksowat 1 year ago
breaking news: liar lies
abstracht 1 year ago
Conservative...or complete ludicris and retarded?
You decide...
skeletonmom 1 year ago
if there's a hell... he's going
marniespeaks 1 year ago
wow, a leftist appealing to religion for political justice. and i thought i'd seen it all.
Great Job!
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
you haven't seen much - most Catholics and jews are liberal
marniespeaks 1 year ago
yea but you dont see them invoking levitican dogma. they dont go around damning people. i really dont think ive ever heard a liberal claim that a republican is going to hell for ideology. any rational christian democrat (is there a such thing as a 3-dimensional oxymoron???) could make a reasonable case for bush and the war mongers going to hell but they usually refrain from that sort of thing.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
haha Fox, the internets don't like you.
LordNapalm 1 year ago 2
I think when they say "fair and balanced" it means,watch FAUX Neocon news,then watch The Family Guy,that's pretty balanced eh? One pushes the epitome of a stereotypical conservative,and the other the epitome stereotypical liberal.
javalily 1 year ago
family guy and the simpsons are both chock full of leftist political ideology.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
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This Cunt is BullShit But what else could I expect from Any person promoting Fox 'news'.
M1ST3RHYDE 1 year ago
Is there some kind of drink you can give someone that would disolve their face in a raiders of the lost ark fashion?
Not sure why but that idea just came to me while watching this.
thunderpants10 1 year ago
Fora seems to be becoming less and less intellectual. I may have to cancel my sub. Tisk Tisk Tisk
BunyPunter 1 year ago
This is pretty disappointing swill.
siradam575 1 year ago
i love how this is anti-intellectual to you but yesterday's video, john perkins, a total conspiracy nut is perfectly fine with you.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago 2
We all know fox news is garbage. We shouldn't expect him to admit it.
Michigan1985 1 year ago 4
We shouldn't expect Fora to post it though.
siradam575 1 year ago
I can almost see the torrent of pure shit oozing out of his jabba the hut mouth
numbah1pinoy 1 year ago
Someone slap him!
razorflown2 1 year ago
El Oh El
PSK11489 1 year ago
this interviewer is a d*ckrider, and the interviewee needs to watch that documentary on fox news, they have agenda's that shut down alternative news stories
randomhero87 1 year ago
With all other news services spewing white house and congress propaganda, there needs to be more programs that investigate the facts and exposes the fallibility of the white house and congress.
But, the question is, will FOX continue to report with integrity on Washington when the republicans have control?
xxramblingsxx 1 year ago
We already have the answer to that: 8 years of W Bush.
siradam575 1 year ago
Bullshit.
GuppyPal 1 year ago
What is this bloated vagina face doing having his opinions put across the air waves?
And by the way, Mr. Ailes, I fail to understand how Alan Colmes outweighs Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, Huckabee, Sean Hannity, Cavuto, and Ingraham.
Even a short listing of liberals on their staff would HELP. It would help but it would still be bullshit.
Redfingers 1 year ago 3
I laughed out loud when I read the title. And then I laughed out loud again when I heard him say that Fox News doesn't tell you what to think.
Mastikator 1 year ago 3
Now we have a dialogue Mr. Ailes. And I cant scroll down far enough to find a comment in your favor.
garvess 1 year ago 6
Fuck him!
they never tell people they just push it.
He can take his fair and balancing act Bullshit "news" station and shove it up his fat disgusting piece of shit ass.
I'm sick of fox news, I'm sick of MSNBC, and even CNN to a certain degree.
I don't want opinion with the fucking news.
"here's the news and here's what I think about it and what you should think"
That's what news is today.
There is no real journalism anymore. Just everyone pinning for shit.
mrx0066600 1 year ago
FOX news is a joke.
mingmong00 1 year ago
What BS..
sentinel41 1 year ago
fox news even let alex jones on fox news recently, as well as ron paul, bob beckel, obama...etc the whole spectrum
Roachenator 1 year ago
it almost surprises me that fox would have alex jones on(maybe it shouldnt surprise me as jones is a right-wing icon with no real right-wing discipline) but they are desparately trying to co-opt the current libertarian movement in the u.s. so they can turn it into neo-neo-conservatism. let me assure you that it WONT work
oiuoiu988 1 year ago 3
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what are you BABBLING about?
weirdo
Roachenator 1 year ago
Alex Jones is by no means a conservative or a Libertarian. He is a nut job conspiracy theorist. If Fox News is letting him on they do it at there own risk.
purplecharger88 1 year ago
I Listen Alex Jones. He maybe go a little bit nuts sometimes and same something a bit weird but he highlights very important and relevant things that the mainstream media choose to discuss. And you can even look up and verify his stated facts - most of the time he tells where to look.
He also has some important guests on his show.
I considered him a nut job but I, admittedly, never even watched his show. I only started watching after I heard about ISP's certain sites including his.
suroj 1 year ago
i agree that to some degree he highlights very important and relevant things that the mainstream media chooses NOT to discuss, but about 85-90% of the time he's talking about goofy ass conspiracy theories that arent relevant at all.
he really is a nut job.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
he's pretty conservative and he claims to be a libertarian but he's that type of non-libertarian libertarian that will advocate state intervention when it suits his needs. but he's got a built in audience and he's more right than left so fox news will have him.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
"Fair and Balanced" is code for reality averse.
TheFallibleFiend 1 year ago
is it just me, or has fora been showing an awful amount of conservative douchefags spewing crap?
;d
666norton420 1 year ago
what about john perkins the leftist conspiracy theorist?? he's like the alex jones of the left. did you know who he was before the recent foratv videos?
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
I don't know much about John Perkins, but unlike Alex Jones, hes actually worked in the industries he's criticizing.
eirefrance 1 year ago
haha, really?? thats been disputed for years. you should familiarize yourself with his book, confessions of an economic hitman, he falls somewhere between alex jones and david icke in the list of conspiracy nuts.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
I don't know the book, only of it. Was he lying about his past employment? And I have no doubt he is at least marginally more sensible than Ickes. Where are the lizardmen sex fiends in Perkins' book?
eirefrance 1 year ago
He doesn't need to be lying about his past employment to be seen for the fraud he is. Just because someone is stretching the truth doesn't mean they aren't a liar.
purplecharger88 1 year ago
Well, if he was actually working in the industry like he claims, he would know better if the truth was stretched than someone on Youtube who has their own political agenda, like weewee988. But I'm not here to defend Perkins, I've never read his book. Besides, I've read the primary documents on plenty of things I'm sure he talks about, so I'm not worried about it.
eirefrance 1 year ago
@eirefrance
youre confusing intelligence with political agenda.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@eirefrance
well just so you know i was putting icke at the extremely insane end of the spectrum with jones at least marginally more sensible than perkins but im no alex jones fan as you can see from my comments above.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
im as far to the right, politically, as almost anyone i know and let me just assure you that the fair and balanced slogan is a joke. their slogan should be, Fox news: at least were not total leftist scum!
oiuoiu988 1 year ago 6
nice one!
personally, i'm right in the middle, on average.
i have both liberal and conservative sides that do battle daily.
my liberal side thinks faux news should be shut down and some sort of charges should be filed for all their lies.
my conservative side on the other hand feels they're contributing to the fail of what could be a great country... and so the owners, producers and "talent" should be dragged out into the street and shot on live tv.
...the battle rages on. lol
;d
666norton420 1 year ago 2
@666norton420
That doesn't sound like both sides. Yeah maybe both conflicting liberal sides, but certainly not true conservative. Nice try though. You silly prankster. Tricks are for kids! =)
rubyredlipstick71 1 year ago
all conservatives are basically just varying shades of "wrath of god" mentality.
liberals are pussies, conservatives are brutal.
and i don't define people by labels, i define them by their actions. "conservatives" nowadays have nothing to do with balanced budgets.
pussies and brutality, with me somewhere in the middle.
*sigh* lol
;d
666norton420 1 year ago 2
@666norton420
lets not start confusing conservative and liberal with right and left, they are very different. i'm not conservative at all but im as far right on the political spectrum as anyone out there.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@666norton420
well i think i know what you mean but the kind of coercion and violence you advocate is the calling card of the left wing.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
I would contend that most left-leaning liberals need to move to a country where their ideas would actually work! (And good luck finding one!) :P
modernfreestyle 1 year ago
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You mean like nearly every single European country?
siradam575 1 year ago
yea, especially greece and spain.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
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Its funny you mention those, they are the ones ruined by typical right wing economic policies of consolidation of wealth into a few private hands through government welfare, then attempting to blame and punish the general public for its greedy mismanagement (ie see US bank bailout)
siradam575 1 year ago
yea of course, freedom always ruins governments. wtf are you talking about?? fiscal irresponsibility is 100% to blame with the current european national bankruptcies. bad monetary policy was to blame for the situation in the u.s. that led to the bailouts. do you even know the difference between monetary and fiscal or am i going to have to explain that to you?
oiuoiu988 1 year ago 2
@siradam575 You mean like every single European country that's about to go bankrupt? :P
First Greece, now Spain...see a pattern here? Face it--socialism does not work!
modernfreestyle 1 year ago
This bitch.
Congest 1 year ago
Hail Hitler, its the only way to be sure!
tHecOmMeNtErSrEtUrN 1 year ago
Conservatives need to go and move to a country where their ideology is welcome, like Iran, or South Africa.
Valstein0 1 year ago 3
actually america IS that country.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Perhaps you socialists and communists should move to a country that hasn't been built on free markets.
hozehd 1 year ago
Right, just like us Atheists should move to a country that wasn't built on the Bible? Maybe instead of supporting your flawed ideology by ignoring facts, you conservatives should pick up a history book.
Valstein0 1 year ago 3
the state IS your religion, youre not fooling anyone. havent we been over this?
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Indeed. Off I go to pray for more laws and less freedom.
Valstein0 1 year ago 2
But I keep hearing that is no 'free' market, that we can't blame the market because all along we've been secret socialists. Oh, its all so confusing.
eirefrance 1 year ago
@eirefrance
maybe if you had any grasp on what a free market is, or what socialism is you wouldnt have to rely on news agencies to do the thinking for you. the term free market is theoretical in the same way the number zero is. this is also true of the concept of total or complete socialism. socialism is an application of policies in government whether incremental or totalitarian.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
I don't think I'm the one who needs to think about what a free market is, and what socialism means. In fact, why don't I let you define each for me, as best you can.
eirefrance 1 year ago
because i didnt give you that option.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago 5
Ohoho Check out the big man. Well, I'm sorry if I offended you there, Little Lord Fauntleroy.
eirefrance 1 year ago
what made you think you offended me?
oiuoiu988 1 year ago 2
The snarky tone.
eirefrance 1 year ago
i didnt realize i was dealing with one of those people that can make tones out of youtube comments. lets face it, there was NO tone, no snarkiness, you were reaching. I stand by my original reply to you and it's clear to all that you havent defended any position in reply.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Haha, buddy, neither one of us has posited a "position" on anything. I love a good reasonable discussion about politics. I'd like to think that I've had a few here on Youtube. But when you start with telling me I don't understand x when you really don't know shit about what I know, well, where are we? Or telling someone "the state is your religion"? If you want to take some pretend higher moral ground, be my guest. But I'm not here to be your strawman, so you'll reap what you've sown.
eirefrance 1 year ago
posited a position?? really??? its pretty darn impressive that you actually know 2 forms of a word but in english we choose on or the other. in the original reply to you i stated, the term free market is theoretical in the same way the number zero is. this is also true of the concept of total or complete socialism. socialism is an application of policies in government whether incremental or totalitarian.
is that not a position? i know plenty of people that would disagree with it.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Hence the quotation marks, but whatever, lets get to the meat here. Yeah, the free market is a theoretical point much like zero on a line. I can see how a true free market is like absolute zero; the efficient, robotic flow of goods and services free of corruption and ruled by instananeous market adjustment. Thats not a position or an argument any more than saying being a Christian requires believing Christ is the son of god. An argument is why acheiving it is A) desirable and B) possible.
eirefrance 1 year ago
What you replaced your potential for an argument with was an insult. One which assumed I knew nothing about a subject because I didn't see it your way. I know 500 characters and a lot of idiots, Youtube is full of the most inane uninformed opinionated comments, and I've gotten into my share of trolling back at trolls. It has its own charm, I agree.
eirefrance 1 year ago
it was obvious from your comment that you rely on news agencies to tell you if we have a free market or socialism, i actually use my own analysis for that, you can too!! perhaps i'm wrong and it was some sort of miscommunication but you never bothered to defend your comment. if you wish to argue with me about the state replacing religion in the leftist mindset then i would have that argument with you. try stating your position. i dont know what pretend moral high ground youre referring to.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
My feelings about the free market and socialism and all the other market tools come from my upbringing, my internal feelings of fairness and 15 years of amateur and directed study in current events, economics, sociology and history. I can't remember the last time a news agency tried to tell me what a free market is, but it sure is not how I developed my ideas about anything, except for the general uselessness of news agencies in the modern age, especially tv, where opinion replaces reporting.
eirefrance 1 year ago
this is the first comment where you actually attempted to defend your original comment, as for my position not being a position, there are plenty of people that would disagree with the statement i made, whether you and i agree that they are wrong is irrelevant. do u even know what a troll is?
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
My original comment was a joke, a reference to all of the libertarians who say you ca't blame current economic problems on the free market because our current economic/financial situation did not happen in a free market. Which is a misunderstanding of criticisms of the free market. So to the extent that my comment was a "position", it was said in jest.
eirefrance 1 year ago
so it took you 10 comments to clarify that your comment was a joke? neat. seems to me like the joke socialists that say the same thing too, right?
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Well, I suppose a lot of jokes could be made. I didn't clarify because I didn't think it needed clarification. I can see how sarcasm doesn't really carry on the internets though.
eirefrance 1 year ago
My actual position is something like this. There will never be a free market, There will always be those trying with insider power trying to game the system and gain more power at the expense of everyone else. The "free" market is nothing more than an intellectual tool used by those in power to further their ends. Its more complicated than that, but thats the quick summary.
eirefrance 1 year ago
my position is much easier to explain, i dont advocate the use of force against non-aggressors.
lobbying the state for regulations, barriers to entry and special protections is the only way certain people can gain more power at the expense of everyone else. you really have no idea what youre talking about when you call the free market an intellectual tool. its funny how simply misunderstanding terms can guide ones ideology so far.
so do you advocate the use of force against non-aggressors?
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Define aggressor. Is a person artificially inflating the cost of foodstuffs, leading to an increase in mortality, an aggressor? Is a person profiting off of property they only posess because their ancestors stole it with violence an agressor? Is an insurance company that denies me health coverage I paid for because they know they can afford better lawyers than me an aggressor?
eirefrance 1 year ago
no, no and no. i dont think you know the difference between inflation and price level. the problems you just described can only be caused by the state. why would i care if kraft starts charging 13$ for a frozen pizza, i'll just stop buying kraft pizza. i'm not in favor of arbitrarily retroactive system of property rights but thats not what this is about. i dont deny that its a good point for debate but you cant seem to come up with a solution that isnt arbitrary. the insurance thing is nonsense
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Actually regulations can happen for a lot of reasons. And yes, many regulations do get passed as a result of false self interest. Which is why transparency and checks and balances are key elements in a political system. But a simple anecdotal look at 19th century medicine and its quacks shows me that we're better off with an FDA than without.
eirefrance 1 year ago
false self-interest? what? you just called a system of government a political system, how old are you, if you dont mind me asking? you favor the fda because you have no idea what life would be like without it. not to mention that youre ignoring the fact that we are further along in society now. youre crediting the FDA with the progress that technology has brought us. this shows a religious approach to the state on your part. the FDA didnt usher in the 20th century, technology did.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Because thats the juice of my argument. Your argument sounds nice, but its an impossible fantasy. "I don't advocate violence against non-aggressors". Great. Its so simple, so brilliant, so meaningless. And you might be suprised to know you're not the first to state this simple axiom to me. You would be the first to show where its ever been applicable outside of Mises' imagination, though.
eirefrance 1 year ago
hahaha i love how you think non-aggression is an impossible fantasy. face it, you advocate the use of force against non-aggressors because you believe it is in your self interest. you feel like you couldnt compete in a free society and thats understandable but your advocacy of force and aggression is absolutely inescapable. and it doesnt surprise me that youve talked to libertarians in an era of tremendous growth of libertarianism.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Why should I believe that a society run on non-aggression is possible? I mean, I don't believe fish can live out of water. I don't believe monkeys can build an elevator to Mars. Until someone shows me something approaching evidence, I'm not going to believe in anyone's utopia. And I can believe libertarians are getting more popular. Islam is also very popular. Popularity isn't proof of anything.
eirefrance 1 year ago
youre simply not undersatanding the axiom. its like if i say that team sports are based on the undisputable a priori proposition, WIN EVERY POSSESSION OF EVERY GAME, that doesnt mean its realistic that a team will win every possession of every game, yet if the participants dont hold this as their 1st principle sports would just be a mish-mosh of players deciding when the best time to put forth the effort they think they need to win the game or match.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@hozehd
"Perhaps you socialists and communists should move to a country that hasn't been built on free markets."
Like USA? :D
Mastikator 1 year ago 2
Funny how liberals are always whining about FOX as if MSNBC, CNN, CSNBC and all the other net networks aren't liberal. Shit, one of the reason FOX is the highest rates is because every thing else is liberal. I'd admit FOX is conservative leaning and there is nothing wrong with that. You have your many liberal networks to chose from. We only have FOX. So stop whining.
DiNatalli 1 year ago
There are no liberal networks. American media is completely conservative. You must not have been paying attention during the Bush years.
siradam575 1 year ago
meh.
jakob0815 1 year ago
I've seen FOX News, and I've seen fair and balanced reporting, and what FOX News does is definitely *not* fair and balanced reporting.
frankroto 1 year ago 2
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So by your standards, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, ABC, CBS..etc are "fair and balanced, right? Pfft... If you really hate FOX, here is a novel idea... don't watch it!! Until the fictitious job of FCC Diversity Czar Mark Lloyd shuts FOX down, it isn't going anywhere. :)
rubyredlipstick71 1 year ago
FOX is not a counterpoint to CNN; it's a counterpoint to People's Daily or Al Jazeera. In fact, I think Al Jazeera may even be less biased than FOX. Beck and O'Reilly are about as reliable as Baghdad Bob.
TheFallibleFiend 1 year ago
i hate bill o'reilly as much as you do but your comment is just silly.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Nope. My comment is pretty much a bull's eye.
TheFallibleFiend 1 year ago
@TheFallibleFiend
well then all youre doing is admitting you dont see the leftist leanings of every other major news broadcast.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
Beck and Oreilly aren't news anchors, they're commentators and it's their job to give their opinions. I can see how some folks may not be used to this distinction if they normally watch the other networks.
Causa10bserver 1 year ago
Their followers don't seem to note the distinction.
TheFallibleFiend 1 year ago
so does that mean causa10bserver isnt one of their followers?? it seems like he might be...
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
@oiuoiu988 And would you consider me a bad person if I were? In reality I can't stand Oreilly though I find Beck amusing in very, very small doses.
Causa10bserver 1 year ago
@Causa10bserver
no, as a matter of fact i was pointing out how silly thefalliblefiends comment was as if he was saying that you noticed but people who watch fox dont. i dont watch fox but im about as far to the right of the political spectrum as you can get. i agree about o'reilly and beck and i really like john stossel.
oiuoiu988 1 year ago
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rubyredlipstick71 1 year ago
This guy is full of it! FOX is always skewing opinion! Like notice how they neglected to mention tyhat yesterday, Palin admited using the Canadian health care system as the US was too far away and not accessible
Beadbud5000 1 year ago 3
Huh !
Damn, And all those right-wings nut that tell us that our systems suck. got to bookmark that !
LOL
moestietabarnak 1 year ago
That might be a good policy if Roger was telling the truth.
skipperiffic 1 year ago
0:38 most bullshit laugh ever.
m1ke905 1 year ago
Faux News
buckfushes 1 year ago
retard
xkeltoix 1 year ago
bullshit
theracemixer 1 year ago 2
What a bullshit artist.
Bill O'Reilly reports without telling people what to think? He has a segment in which he describes people as pinheads. Quite the seasoned journalist isn't he?
SconeMason 1 year ago 4
yes, because allowing expert-in-nothing blowhards like Glenn Beck airtime, thereby encouraging and sustaining the public's social and scientific illiteracy, and paranoia is "fair and balanced." Fox actually goes after the experts and the academics, disputes them unduly, creating the illusion of controversy where none exists --- a practice which is precedent to totalitarianism (for anyone who studies history).
Fox is shilling for the small group of wealthy & elite. Period.
abyssquick 1 year ago
Fox should just change it's name The Conservative Propaganda Network and drop the whole "Fair and Balanced" bullshit.
baudiirocz 1 year ago 2
@baudiirocz
CPN has a nice ring to it but people will then think of them as a second-rate CNN. Try harder! :-P
Rsd79 1 year ago
Fox "News": WE DISTORT, YOU BELIEVE!!
reddudefred 1 year ago 3
This idiot also found RUSH! This guy is responsible for setting America back decades! Their ultimate goal is a 19th Century America!
SkyDaddy7 1 year ago
Give him a black hat and a Cigar & he'd be a stereotypical corporate fat-cat.
Maybe if he had some put some fresh thinking through that skull of his then he'd appreciate why conservatism is not always be the right answer.
tdp1909 1 year ago
*unsubscribes*
multidimenzionz 1 year ago 3
Fox New, opinionated , conservative and Wrong
sjcpal 1 year ago 2
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You can't honestly say that msnbc is less biased then Fox. At least watching fox I don't have to listen to smug assholes bashing the second amendment and the whole idea of smaller government.
hozehd 1 year ago
I can actually honestly say that MSNBC is less biased. They, at least, either do not lie openly or come out later and explain their position. Besides, "no" conservatives? Except for Pat Buchanan and Scarborough, I guess he means. And Chris Matthews has said he voted for Bush II. Ailes simply lies in this video, which is nothing new for a Peter Robinson interview.
eirefrance 1 year ago
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Only I can't think of anyone on Fox being canned for being too liberal. Not like Tucker or Dobs being canned for being too conservative.
hozehd 1 year ago
Uh, excuse me, what anchors of an equivalent 'liberal' bent to either of those has Fox even ever given the opportunity to air, let alone fire. Besides,Tucker Carlson isn't even a conservative, he's just a gasbag. Paul Begala is just as much of a gasbag, which is why they got their own show shouting talking points at each other. TV news isn't about ideas (Dobbs was fired for being controversial, not conservative) its about ratings. Thats why I avoid it all.
eirefrance 1 year ago
MSNBC didn't organize an anti-government rally; nor have they organized any pro-government rallies.
Statistically, MSNBC watchers are significantly more informed over current affairs than FOX News watchers.
Those are facts; I don't need to posit an opinion against FOX because they're so blatantly biased and uninformative, any claim to the contrary is laughable.
no1sjester 1 year ago 2
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there's nothing wrong with an anti-government rally. You are an Ideologue, your statistics came right out of your ass. MSNBC didn't cover any teaparty events they just harassed people holding babies and called people names.
hozehd 1 year ago
Actually, a number of polls, done by the Guardian, WSJ, CNN, MSNBC, MediaMatters and others have shown that, on specific facts, regular Fox News viewers know less than viewers of other channels. A lot of the specified polls focus on the health care bill, so who knows, maybe Fox viewers are more informed about something else, like which blond girl is missing today or what Sean Penn has said about 'real' Americans.
eirefrance 1 year ago
MSNBC maybe more biased than Fox "News" at times, but at least they use a concept Fox doesn't understand. And that would consist of being honest. Good example is when on 4/11/09 Neil Cavuto said Fox covered the Milllion Man March on 10/15/95. How exactly did they cover an event that occured nearly a year before they started on 10/7/96? Also news networks are suppose to cover the news not sponsor it like Fox "News" did with the tax day tea parties.
reddudefred 1 year ago
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well yall better get that lynch mob out for Cavuto being off by a full year when talking about something that happened a decade and a half ago. Fox did the only tea party coverage and not do hit pieces on them like MSNBC.
hozehd 1 year ago
I'm not saying he was off by a year, I'm saying HE LIED! "We were there for the Million Man March," said Neil Cavuto on the Fox Business, 4/11/09. Please explain how you can be at something when your network did EXIST until 51 weeks later? Also was it "fair and balanced" when Hannity showed the protest rally in D.C. on Nov 5 and to show the size of the crowd they showed video from Beck's 9/12 rally instead?
Fox "News": We Distort, You Believe!!!
reddudefred 1 year ago 6
@reddudefred
News today disgusts me.
mrx0066600 1 year ago
"fair and balanced"
What a fucking liar!
TheGodlessGuitarist 1 year ago
He needs to stop standing behind his slogan and start standing in front of a moving bus.
ndyt 1 year ago 2
All of fox's liberals are pussies or strawmen.
Justin9Noble 1 year ago
All? Who are all?
eirefrance 1 year ago
If Orwell included Fox News into one of his books people would have thought it was to unrealistic and cartoonish. 2+2=5 is more believable then Fox News being fair and balanced.
fathead8489 1 year ago
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I think we should call the new conservative ideology Ailesoc. What do you think?
eirefrance 1 year ago
You're right fathead8489 and I can't believe people are voting down your comment so much.
Fox has Sarah Palin on the payroll now. (Very sad).
whenindoubtdo 1 year ago 3
Conservatives are the motivated ones out on offensive. I expect to get voted down in every comment I make. It's just the natural cycle of politics. When the Republicans are back in charge they will die down, and the tea party movement will turn into the, "support the president or else you're unpatriotic" movement, overnight (assuming they take the white house in 2012).
fathead8489 1 year ago
As many liberals? No, it's just that one guy, what's his face, that's it. Also, allowing glen beck to have a show means that your networks suck rating is automaticly at ten. This video is going to get so many bad comments from people it's not even funny.
LionEatingMan 1 year ago 3
@LionEatingMan
I don't think Mr. What's His Face still works there.
Aaberg123 1 year ago
Ridiculous, has this guy ever seen his own programming? Every single host voice their opinion about every topic. Fox News continues with double-speak.
alternativeinfo 1 year ago 2
Mr. Ailes is SOOOOO out of touch with the real world that he believes his own propaganda. Fox news has "liberals" who????? The man who opened Capone's vault....oh please... Fox news is self deceived and blind to it.
DonSSanders 1 year ago 2
@DonSSanders I'm a Canuck and most of the Fox News I see is here on youtube, they may not have intelligent or well spoken liberals but they certainly do have a token on most of the videos I have seen.
LeGioNoFZioN 1 year ago