Azen (Lucario) vs Forte (Metaknight)

[C4nadian]

i would fuck these guys up...

[GrandOperational]

@C4nadian I feel the same way...

[katsumorymoto]

lucario and metaknight aren't characters in brawl. the nintendo wii isn't even a game console. nintendo doesnt even exist. the television wasn't invented. electricity is a violation of the laws of physics. you all need to get an education. i'm extremely 100% flawlessly accurate on everything i say all the time. i know everything.

[madkiller566]

@katsumorymoto thumbs up for you mister

[miriamsq75]

go lucario you can

[dagga70]

lucario and meta knight, two characters with the best voice imo

[DJSchousen]

@dagga70 right you are

[Darnellgreen24]

Not to many good lucario users but azen's sure one of em.

to think this was back in 08, I'd love to test mine against his if he still

plays.

[eaziepeazie]

@Darnellgreen24 he does i played him yesterday

[Twistsz]

Hey i dont know anythign about brawl and stuff, but whats sharking?

[therealpinky1116]

pikachu ftw

[LinktoTheEverything]

NOT THE BALLLOONS DONT POP THE BALLOONS!

[psychaotic2]

That was interesting. Lucario has strong aerials, but he was used as a groundwar character against metaknight, who outclassed him with wings. Very clever. Very clever.

[RevanDuvalcane]

It's kind of sad that Forte has to use that spinning move to just close space with Azen...

[nathanfurry]

wonder if azen gives lessons? lol

[ownagedeath4]

@nathanfurry you cant ''learn'' brawling, you have to do it much and become good, like i am with snake, im pro with snake

[CardTheTrader]

@ownagedeath4

Which is why your Unknown to the brawl community right ?

[nathanfurry]

Azen is awesome at using lucario theres no doubt about that. Lucario is a well balanced character and is great for semi-pro to pros and above that. he has good attacks his reach is further then anybody elses and his final smash is just wicked. people on here say that azen is no good using lucario well lucario takes skill to use all because you cant use lucario doesent mean that another person cant. im a beast at this game but theres no way im as good as azen. azen is a well respected player.

[Kelbek2009]

Azen knows how to use Lucario obviously, unlike a lot of people...

[kickfloeb]

u suck at lucario

[Armalizilto]

Hey can I play?

[Armalizilto]

I'm afraid to beat Azen multiple times, I might need to hold back my power.

[helios774]

i could slam forte

[Shinde425]

So, did Azen retire from Smash? Just wondering...his Lucario seemed to be super advanced. Like, brawl is like almost only a month old, and he's got a Lucario that's as good as my friend's really super amazing one now.

[Omnigeek6]

Wow, this fight is simply incredible. My two favorite characters, both incredibly well played. Simply epic.

[nejitheking13]

pro vid man just what i needed. me and my friend are having a match for like a serious bet and hes being lucario and im being lucas, so i need to find alot of lucario vids to try and find a weekness...to bad azen has none hes so pro! im getting so nervous now lol

[LucasThunda]

did you win?

[fire42uck]

ZOMG Azen used DT

[dargonin1]

I would love to see this battle in real life it would be so awesome!!!

[RacheengelKratos]

Now that's a well played Lucario there. I also use Lucario and Luigi as my characters, but I'm not that good... well, not now.

[Azkadaz]

Of course that's a well played Lucario. That's Azen!

[RacheengelKratos]

And who the hell is Azen? D: I don't care about rankings, dude. And I never will.

[Azkadaz]

He's like a pro, man. He's very well respected. Forte is really good, and considering MK's incredibly high priority, you can tell he knows what he's doing.

[RacheengelKratos]

That's for sure. MK is one nasty fellow if the player knows how to use him... and Forte definiatly does. You know what sucks? Just recently, I played with Ganondorf for the first time ever in brawl. Turned out that I'm better with him than with Lucario wich I played some months, yay! I suck...

[useraccount333]

Why do you suck? You can only know if you're good with a character if you play as him/her for a few matches. And the "tier list" everyone's talking about? That's garbage. Ignore it. No matter how "bad" a character may seem, if practice with that character, you will get better.

[Wildnight89]

I agree that he shudn't watch the tier list to decide a character to main but...common....it's GANON!!!....u can'T play Ganon...

[useraccount333]

A friend of mine repeatedly kicks my ass with Link, who is the second worst character in Brawl, according to the tier list.

[Wildnight89]

does link = Ganon? I don't think so

[useraccount333]

I thought we were going by the Brawl Tier List, not by how powerful/awesome they were in their respective games.

[yofatface]

@useraccount333 u might wan't to check out IZAW and u'll change ur mind about link

[sebdarkiss]

lol...I'm better than that with Lucario. If I has time to do a video, I'll tell you about it.

[blckknight117]

LMAO

[useraccount333]

Lucario and Luigi FTW!

I'm thinking of starting to play as Lucas just so I can have the three Lu.

[RacheengelKratos]

Lucas is actually quite nice to play as, but hard to control imo. Especially his saving move can be a pain to use.

[J701]

i love lucario for his man grunts lol

[Kuposter]

LOL oh my god.

[useraccount333]

Both Lucario AND Meta Knight have manly grunts. You know it's serious business when these two characters fight.

[biancster9]

I Love Both Of Them!

[ZeroA97marzo]

exelent lucario is me character

[liamFTW101]

i dont understand how you can be this good when it is so old.

[tuestresfat]

i wonder how many times azen used fsmash

[3volved]

counting is your best friend tuestresfat =]

[BoltFraction]

Forte jumped into the rape. Multiple times.

I wish there were more tournaments around where I live. I'm pretty much limited to cpu's or laggy online friend matches, neither which are great for skill building beyond a semi-pro level.

[streetsouljaX]

Same here buddy

[MobianShoopIndustry]

@BoltFraction Bad internet?

[BoltFraction]

I thought that might be the case at first, but I've since ruled it out. I have an excellent internet connection, but if I'm paired up with someone who has one that is less-than-great, it will end up lagging regardless. At best, it may just be a little bit of button/input lag. At worst, well, you are disconnected altogether. This is supported by the fact that the problem is widespread throught the wifi community - everyone can't have bad connections, after all.

[MobianShoopIndustry]

@BoltFraction Well my internet is so bad online gaming is not an option peroid. Which is one reason I have to move:( I hope thing go well for you though :)

Maybe one day I could face you and maybe by then I will move a rank higher than ameteur.

[TheLecile]

@BoltFraction

just kill urself a couple times before starting to fight against Com;) its fun

[TaliaTxT]

Azen FTW!

[deoxys03]

he mained marthon melee

[max05233157]

azen has such good spacing

[moneyquickeasy]

@max05233157 what does that even mean?

[superyoshi4444]

@moneyquickeasy it means your dumb

[DragonFlyMKW]

@superyoshi4444 high fives.....or not

[WariosBetterHalf]

dude I just saw forte play in a tournament yesterday... he has the fastest fingers alive.

[KazikaroInei7550]

OMG! look at Azen's DI. amazing!

[TobiObito8]

lmfao at 4:01-4:07

[somerandommofo]

Azen should go to jail...

FOR RAPE!

[DiagonalHorizon]

Azen has such good DI

[keenanprendergast]

Azen is a beast!

[wesley241]

Azen is awesome

[geekhead34]

i knew it. azen is just too amazing

[crizthakidd]

DAMMM azen knows something about DI that everyone else doest lolol he survives so much that normally would kill

[Jiraiya500]

It is simple Smash DI followed by least lag ariels

[arudthestud]

How do you SDI though? It's hitting the cstick right as you're hit am I right?

Seems like without godlike reflexes you'd have to be waiting to get hit to actually use SDI.

[minesisbigger]

he just... wont... die!

[dannybo1]

that was pro.

[cloudpanda06]

How do u do the punch punch -> grab punch? o.O

[cloudpanda06]

0:17 - 0:20

[OmgItsIXI]

Jab,Jan,Side Special? xD

[RunescapeMassacre]

Wow, Azen's lucario is a beast.

[nintendoftww]

i have wii and brawl but not wifi but i heard that online brawl is laggy is this true?

[towelie893]

Yes. Very laggy. It's not even worth playing.

[nintendoftww]

wow that sucks then why would anyone even buy it smash is one game u cant lag in cause u just couldnt land any sick shit

[towelie893]

Maybe you'd buy it because the single player and local multiplayer are incredible. Just a thought.

[Koroigetsuga87]

a friend of mine went to japan to vs the jap smashers he saied there was 6 he could just not touch, this guy was a pit user

[enderunkin]

christ meta knight is fast, but Azen stuck it through my hero, lucario FTW

[funkyblademonkey]

Shit man at this speed one day brawl may catch up to melee... Just look at them! it seriously looks like the match is sped up, but the timer is going at the rite speed rofl.

[gonzaloramos89]

Azen is to good in Melee, and Azen is to good in Brawl... =D

[stabbedbyahippie]

Azen's DI is friggin' insane.

[Ferriswheel32]

Finally I see a good Lucario

[theXaura]

What are Tiers????

great video by the way

[KazikaroInei777]

Tiers are certain types levels of a character or a course.

[BloodFeather]

wrong a Tierlist shows up the potential of a character thus the discovery of new AT's has an effect on tier lists...

[KazikaroInei777]

Well, level/potential... Well sorry for having such a bad vocabulary, allow me to correct myself plz?

Tiers: one of a series of rows or ranks rising one behind or above another.

Example: level's of rows on an obstacle.

I don't try to be wrong in person or nor being an asshole. Once I again I'll take that "tiers are for queers." joke. If you would understand what I'm pointing out, you'll know me better. Thanks.

[passiveMenis]

Kazikarolnei, that definition is very wrong.

[LLLLLink]

That MetaKnight is a corpse.

And Shiek is clearly a woman :l

Once you get to a certain skill level in smash, tiers have less impact on the outcome of the battle. That isnt to say that some chars are clearly better equiped than others though...

[BloodFeather]

lol'd hard. hi noob nice to meet u.

[ummcarter]

Think you have that backwards bro.

[RaffoPhantom]

shiek is a man

[sammycakes2604]

Lies.

Well, sort of. IMO, Sheik is, technically, both.

The CHARACTER of Sheik is a man, whereas the actual PERSON inside the suit is a woman.

[ChromePirate]

Mk and snake deserve their own tier, it should be called gay tier.

This vid made me want to main lucario--azen is so good at smash

[marsh357]

Azen's spacing is godly

[Fayejealousy]

Beastly counter attack at the end by Azen!

[E123Brawler]

Azen is my idol when it comes to maining Lucario. I'm trying to improve my Lucario skills by watching him.

[Ezayskikkles]

hey guys, i was just wondering how you short hop without using the C-stick, azen seems to do it a lot chained to neutral airs, and it would be pretty hard to jump c-stick right or left to short hot f-air and then press a for neutral air, some help would be appreciated. nice match you two!

[alcheato]

I think you mean the control stick not c-stick, but on the gamecube controller most people quickly press x or y to shorthop.

[XZoneCiderpowered]

Hah! I recall someone saying Lucario was 'low-tier'...

Silly tiers.

[cross25011990]

yees that is so silly :( , i ve heard from that too^^

[BloodFeather]

hes akshly high tier according to this ...

[BloodFeather]

The H2YL Tier List July 2008 God Tier Meta Knight Top Tier Snake King Dedede Falco Upper Tier Mr. Game & Watch Marth R.O.B. ´

[BloodFeather]

High Tier

Kirby

Pit

Wario

Donkey Kong

Lucario

[XZoneCiderpowered]

Who in their right mind would choose that spammy annoying SHIT Pit? Eurgh. Well, at least Lucario's getting some recognition.

[BloodFeather]

i find it amazing that DK is high i mean... i cant think of any good dk players after captain jack.. xD

[KazikaroInei777]

this just in "Tiers are for queers" lol jk. :D.

I find Lucario op after watching Azen. what about Sheik? hes a pretty good character

[BloodFeather]

naw *xcept for Naeo and Gimpy SHE (Shiek) isnt that popular... and lost lotta her ups D= i mean i like shiek n stuff but i dont think shes that good of a char iÄd put her in mid tier.. H2YL made her low tier D=

[KazikaroInei777]

ive been thinking about the melee ways though. brawl minimizes my belief the fact about the tiers dont really matter. which in other words... (if i dont know what im talking about) all characters play relatively the same. and tiers for me is really depending how a person plays the character.

[BloodFeather]

wait what? do u mean that *tiers r for queers* becuz its not dependant on the general potential of the characters but the matchup and the opposing player? if so i agree .. but oh well i think i didnt get what u say anyways im far 2 sleepy right now xD

[KazikaroInei777]

the "tiers r4 queers" is literally a joke i got from the swordsmans clips. dont take it seriously.

i think you're getting to my point... tiers can matter, in different functional ways sorta. sorry about being such a jackass with the tier joke.

[BloodFeather]

dont worry i got brainlag i didnt even notice u where a jackass Oo but can u give me a link to the swordsmans clips tihngy.. ? xD

[BloodFeather]

Ice Climbers Wolf Peach Middle Tier Olimar Luigi Diddy Kong Zero Suit Samus Zelda Ike Pikachu Fox Toon Link

[BloodFeather]

Low Tier

Samus

Ness

Bowser

Sheik

Lucas

Mario

Ganondorf

Pokemon Trainer

Sonic

[BloodFeather]

Bottom Tier

Link

Yoshi

Jigglypuff

Captain Falcon

[RavenXGhost]

Yoshi is absolutely not bottom at all. He's surely mid. Jigglypuff should be low I think. Link and Falcon are debatable but I think Link is low.

[BloodFeather]

Low Lucas Ness Mario Pokemon Trainer Samus Yoshi Sonic Jigglypuff Ganondorf Link Cptn. Falcon

[james9904638]

are u crazy mario deffintaly isnt low tier bequit till u fight masta u dont know shit bout mario

[BloodFeather]

its the SBR list created by people who know what they talk about......... dumbass-.- M2K and Azen where afaik part of creating that one...

[mrmcfunk]

The list definitely has some merit, but it ignores an important part of the equation: potential. There are still undiscovered techniques and exploits that could push previously overlooked characters into a more competetive tier. Unfortunately, these techniques are less likely to be found because lists like this encourage the neglect of lower rank characters.

[BloodFeather]

lmao the list is ALL about the potential..... o m f g i do agree about the last part u wrote tough ... and the tier list isnt irrevocable ... it will get changed when new AT's are d/c/v

[BloodFeather]

thats the SBR list happy? theres no bottom but yoshi is still far from being mid..

[SuperBlahmaster]

People are just now discovering the awesomeness of Yoshi. See: Dragonic reverse

[BloodFeather]

thats great but not only AT's are relevant but tourney results as well and they are far more important ^^ since they are used as an indicator of the usefullness of those AT's =) w/e u can go to SWF and try to convince the SBR to make him mid tier idc ^^

[AfroThunder396]

Yoshi will probably end up mid tier...he has lots of good things going for him. The only thing he doesn't have going for him is that not many people play Yoshi.

[BloodFeather]

mhm thas no rsn fo low tier thing is his only gwd mu is vs mk xD

[AfroThunder396]

Speak english

[AggressionSsbb]

countering mk/snake? yeah thats a LOT going for him, a 30%cg with a unblockable hyphen smash @ the end is no joke vs mk

[AggressionSsbb]

bottom doesnt exist in brawl...+yoshi counters mk so no

[BloodFeather]

right... listen idc what ur opinion about tiers is and im pretty sure noone rly does.. that tier list is created by people who know their sh1t ... and are somewhat better then u are.. not only in theorysmash but at the game itself since ur some random guy n/b knows.. anyways yoshi does not counter mk ... its 50/50 tru though that hes the character with the best MU against MK but still MK doesnt have ANY bad MU's -> no counters... -> ur wrong..

[AggressionSsbb]

Lol, it is NOT 50-50, 65-35 easily.

Come on if mk is at 50% yoshi can cgr him doing 40% then hit him with a unavoidable hyphen smash, you're saying a character that can kill the opponent in less than 5hits is 50-50 with another that can't kill and/or gimp yoshi till about 150%?

Yoshi is a hard to kill/hit heavy weight, I myself am a Yoshi pro myself, I don't think I've ever lost to a mk.

And another thing is that Snake&Diddy DO counter mk, so saying he has no counters is retarded.

[BloodFeather]

[q]I myself am a Yoshi pro myself, I don't think I've ever lost to a mk.[/q] ofc u are *taps on head*

[persuasive111]

Haha, inexperienced Yoshi is inexperienced.

[RyuzakiKaiten]

so is lucario a mk counter or is it jus azen thats the mk counter

[AggressionSsbb]

azen, lucario supposively is bad vs mk

[WENCHINGTON]

Look at you using numbers as though they have meaning. You're probably also misusing the word "pro."

[SkaterTrainer]

Azen = Top Tier

[NighthawkBrawlingPro]

Truth

[yearofthetorauma]

whoa, and I mean whoa at 1:08-9

[jungshin87]

there is the steps to being azen's lucario

1. SH-> f-air

2. d-air once ur fair reaches above them

3. jab (tilt)? combo -> grab

rinse and repeat

[vos474747]

most lucarios use the down arial alot. most META KNIGHTs use the shuttle loop alot.

Forte did what most meta's do, wheras azen varied alot more and won. I guess this shows that you don't need to use the same killer move all the time to win

[Brownpears]

You mean what most meta's learned to do after him.

At this time he was own his own level. M2k was still begging for vids in each results thread then >_>

[ArmaniGotti]

Is that Azen a fricken pro lucario user? Lucario is the only carecter I ever use and I cant beleive that you can be that good.

I kick ass with LUCARIO and I would love to fight Azen!

[NinesTempest]

Lern 2 melee pros. He's been good since melee.

[betterthanbonds9]

am i the only one that loves the move at 109 the most?

[AlienMunkie16]

if lucario's moves were as strong as he makes them sound he would be a top char. he yell's like he supa fuckin strong.

oh well, he makes up for it with cool points :)

[Roy7437]

Lol, certainly. He's Vegeta+Metwo. :D

[Hardgainer2008]

I can see why people like Azen's Lucario. Good match.

[KazikaroInei777]

well its not just his Lucario. Azen is a very good player back since melee. so im enlighten to watch his matches :).

[FilmRangers]

What exactly does Azen do sorry I only found out about ihm today so im curios is he a professional Super Smash Brothers Player or something

[KazikaroInei777]

Azen had wr's on mario cart on ta's. though i dont recall which one. and hes been through alot of melee tourneys then. hes one of the most dominate person on smash so thats kinda what i know.

p.s. dont imform me of a fanboy of Azen if thats if you are going to ask :).

[FilmRangers]

So basicly sort of like a videogame professional wrestler?

[KazikaroInei777]

ahaha lol kinda. (but take of wrestler) watch more vids of Azen in melee. then you would know what im talking about.

[FilmRangers]

okay I get it now thanks

[exeledus]

wow! azen's amazing! i always think of myself as a noob, but after watching this, i use lucario almost Ecatly the same way, but i never thought of using a down aerial after a forward aerial...

and i usualy lunch an aura sphere after "a,a,->b"

you're awesome azen!

[KazikaroInei777]

then you should get more practice. seeing this match also gets me into playing Lucario. he is just awesome.

[kernelcolonel]

Azen eats Forte's Rapenado for breakfast at 0:16

This match makes me love Brawl

[Roy7437]

You mean hate less.

[TheYazExperiment]

You can always tell an old melee pro from their DI. Forte's DI sucks compared to Azen's.

[KazikaroInei777]

Does Forte have an aka? Im not sure if Im familier with these names but its always to see good people from melee back from action for brawl like Azen and Chu.

[KazikaroInei777]

GAWD DAMN! Azen is so fucking good!

[Shiranui115]

o.o Azen rocks... The only good Lucario I've seen. He would DESTROY my Lucario, if he even bothered to kick the crap outta me.

[jonnobigz]

What kind of irked me this match was that Azen could have done even better. He must not know about footstool to DAir combo. It works so beatifully. I saw multiple times the MK just shielded his DAir, but Azen could have avoided that by just pressing jump inbetween his DAir lol. Other than that, very very good.

[betterthanbonds9]

im pretty sure azen knows about the footstool to dair combo....especially since i saw him comment on it. Honestly, it's just difficult to go for the footstool unless you're thinking about it, and azen has proclaimed many times he doens't think.

[jamduke]

WHAT THE HELL was with Lucario's F-smash range. I'm going to second him.

[nesci1234]

Lucario's moves usually exceed past his fists. His forward smash has that aura thing so it goes a bit past his grip sort of like Mewtwo in SSBM.

[LionelMessi1337]

Lmao Lucario rapes at high percentage

[jonnobigz]

Lucario combos at low percentage, Lucario KO's at high percentage. Very good character.

People say Forte ran into the Fsmashes. It is very difficult to gauge the range of lucario's fsmash.