OMFG that maaaade my life!It sucks if they did get banned, cause I'm hoping (fingers crossed) that I can go this year and if they were there it would just be AMAZING xD
Okay there are some parts I found really lame (Despite being fake, beating up the kid was taking it a bit far) but I was laughing throughout most of the thing. Good job. =P
i loved the child beating. it didnt look to real though, they probably talk before the clip and told him to look hurt... but in one of these other conventions this lady tells matt off and says she talks to the boy that got beat up cousin and said he went to the hospital for 3 days.... but i dont know.
Ok I have to say some of the things in this are funny but I dont agree with some of it. Like seriously guys you take it too far sometimes but kudos on some of it
To be honest, I'm completely neutral about it. I'm not anti-conventioneer, but I'm not a fan either. I agree that what they do gets a bit too far, but in the end, they're trying to serve publicity, and they've done a pretty good job by the amount of comments in this youtube video alone. :/
After 20 conventions, I find you guys hilarious. Don't stop, please. Just make sure that you do have boundries, and that the kid was alright (which it seems he is, as he's posting here XD ).
But really, if I ran into you guys, I'd hug you. Just a word though: Don't mess with cosplayer's props, or just be careful. You break it, cosplayers get shit pissed. <3
Dude i WAS the guy who was behind the salior moon *guy* when you interviewed him i sort of passed the screen with cat ears heheh gahhhhh i made it yesaaaaaa
Yes, it was fake, it was an act. The kid's mother was standing right there. If it were real, Matt would've been arrested, and the parent would have never signed the release form.
Hey These "Conventioneers" are fucking retards i think that in my recent discoveries many people seem to think that the kid geting the shit kicked out of him was fake I MEAN THAT MOTHER FUCKER JUMPED ON HIJM i mean really!! (didn't you hear the kid "squeak"when the dick jumped on him?) anyways BEWARE MAT CHIN next convention I AM GOING TO COME AND FIND YOU FOR THE SOLE PERPOUSE OF KICKING THE CRAP OUT OF YOU! (just for fun)
that boy was me.... i geuss it hurt a bit but he missed alot LMAO and also i wasn't sent to the HOSPITAL AND WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT? ALSO WHO IS MY COUSIN? MY COUSIN WENT BACK TO HONG KONG?
I can prove if you want me to i could make a video of myself :) my mom wanted to know if it would be on T.V and also i was worried if i would be humiliated on T.V :P LMAO
You people do realize that the clip where matt "beat up the kid" was fake right? The child mom's was right there beside us asking when it would be on TV.
u guys shouldn't make fun of cosplayers also would u guys make of kids cause if like a 30 year old man likes anime that would be all right but little kids are aloud to like that stuff?
No worries, Anime North staff are on top of this and have been informed to keep an eye out for this. I made sure to email the head of Con-Ops so it's already brought to their attention.
v^.^ stopping the Conventioneers one Convention at a time
My name is Andrew, i am the guy cosplaying as Ryu in this video, my friend Jamie Is Dan (GUy in pink). We also have a skit and outher video up if you type in Andrew Ragazzo into the search bar.
Yes they've really been banned, and from what I hear, FanExpo also might be banning them as well. Pretty soon conventions and cosplay functions will be safe from these idiots.
I doubt that they were banned, they made it to FanExpo, and I've heard around that they'll be back at next years Anime North, irregardless if they've been banned or not.
I just have to say. That is horrible. If I ever see you guys at any conventions I am just going to yell "These guys beat up little kids!" I dont know about those other people Just standing there doing nothing, but if I was there I would have done something about it instead of letting people laugh at the poor kid and doing nothing at all to help him. You guys took this too far. Thats not being funny, thats being dumb and you should have been reported for that.
Each part is a hit or miss for me,I do like to cosplay and think its an awesome hobby.I just think you guys take some things a little too far..still I love the Nintendo stuff you did,Great job on that I completely agree
I've spoken with Jason over messaging, and he cleared it all up for me. When all was over the kid was apparently laughing, and thought it was great he got on TV. SO NO MORE ABOUT THE KID BEING OWNED BY MATT.
I thought it was funny till' you they started to beat up that kid and doing things to others costumes. It was a bit rude... I can't believe some were laughing when he was doing that to the kid. I hope they don't come next year.
I think the whole thing was great. Except the part where that poor kid got beat to the point of what sounded like crying. Beating up children just isn't cool, man.
Ya Chicn is a dick sometimes, but ya gotta admit the theme song is cool. Jay's alright, but it would be nice if he'd read my E-mails on Live Audio Wrestling. Thats the price I pay for being right all the time.
W00t im in there!!! Half way through there's a random fight between a short guy in white and a taller guy in pink, right after there's me as Fai with the big staff!!! XD im so happy i made it onto the show!!!
as a security member of Anime North, due to alot of complaints on Cosplay.com about u guys, i hope u dont think of coming again next year. u were very rude and mean so hopefully u will be banned.
As a Con-goer of Anime North (I was at the Naruto Photoshoot you interrupted) and a cosplayer YOU PEOPLE ARE HORRIBLE!!
Specifically beating up that kid. I hope the next time you go to a convention someone takes a video of YOU having the crap knocked out of you by a group of cosplayers!
I think the Ryu guy could go for another Tazzmission and take the guys out, but I don't think anyone else would have a chance. 5 out of 5 for being awesome.
*seen it* whatever happened to the "Matt vs. Zaraki" battle...? Did he cut it off????? OO; that was the most funniest moments i've seen in Anime North!! ... well... its the only funniest moment i've seen in anime north ^^' *first year at the con*
"that guy has a big white piece of poo on his back, im not sure..."
kankuro ... lol
TheAnimefreak33 9 months ago
i love this
murderer99chan99 1 year ago
Matt Chin...is retarded...
JLPDYC 1 year ago
There fucking horible
Dooku64 2 years ago
lmao listen to the kid squeal when you land on him
Sadchaos11 2 years ago
omg he beat up a kid what an asshole!!!!!!
f00db01 2 years ago
I know sailor moon man, lol!
pyropixie 2 years ago
omfg he beat up a kid in the fake kinda wrestling way
bangbrosdude 2 years ago
LMFAO! The sailor moon guy, omg XD
PrincessKisa579 2 years ago
omg! he beat up the kid xDDDDDDDD talk about some mind scarring experiances. Love them very much, they're hilarious! <3
honeyhorrors 3 years ago 6
i feel sorry for the kid but its hilarious
kingsofecto 2 years ago
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_YOURFREEHENTAI(.)C0M 1:47 reminds me of the time when my friends slept over. GoOd TiMeS
Kenyi2002fx4 3 years ago
Ah man I hope they go again for 2009. im going and its gunna be wicked!
WinterTopaz 3 years ago
OMFG that maaaade my life!It sucks if they did get banned, cause I'm hoping (fingers crossed) that I can go this year and if they were there it would just be AMAZING xD
PuchiDoragon 3 years ago
oh ur from street fighter i want to see some one get hurt lol
exraa5 3 years ago
wtf is that guys link sheild covered in tinfoil lol
exraa5 3 years ago
hahaha... i love how they havnt been able to come back to AN because of the seen where my friend and I fight.. Ryu and Dan
okoro14534 3 years ago
XD
I LOVE LINK.
SeiryuSuboshisan 3 years ago
Haha, man, you're such a jerk. I love this video. XDD
kanama12 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
NO ONE, wants to see that.
TheBoogerHumper 3 years ago
LMAO
you guys are the greatest:P
minhae13 3 years ago
im pushin your buttons TU TU TU Turu TU TU TU :S lol XD
coolkenny13 3 years ago
Okay there are some parts I found really lame (Despite being fake, beating up the kid was taking it a bit far) but I was laughing throughout most of the thing. Good job. =P
TakashiShiroi 3 years ago
I think he rly hurt that kid
Myktreeeater 3 years ago
loool at die u bitch,
other than that
id beat the shit out of both of them
GAH
Kahonii 3 years ago
Did you hear the little boy crying screaming "MUUMMMMM" I think he said that..
LOL
So much fighting int his one.. Violent.. xD
tak1290 3 years ago
Most random beginning!
shmaabibbles 3 years ago
Matt really did kick a little kids ass didnt he?
TheBerry15 3 years ago
ya he did like i hope someone kicks his ass
zZzdeidarazZz 3 years ago
Matt Chin is the FUCKING energizer bunny. He never stops running
anubis418 3 years ago
what fag would flag this
phily880 3 years ago
i dont know i think they're awsome and they just dont think that they ask people to talk to them
anubis418 3 years ago
The white piece of poo, lmfao.
SUP3RficialH3R0 3 years ago
I SEE ANONYMOUS.
kelseytheanimefreak1 3 years ago
TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES!
TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES!
TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES!
Matts best moments
anubis418 3 years ago
Matt as Fai is sexy.
aloneandafriad 4 years ago
i loved the child beating. it didnt look to real though, they probably talk before the clip and told him to look hurt... but in one of these other conventions this lady tells matt off and says she talks to the boy that got beat up cousin and said he went to the hospital for 3 days.... but i dont know.
juliathejubjub 4 years ago 6
He sure defeated that enemy.
powerfulSubtlety 4 years ago
man these old episodes have a shitty quality. lol
But the episode itself is genious.
krabonq 4 years ago
All the people who are saying it was real are fucking morons
But then again we have to remember that these people also think that they are cartoons from there favorite cracked out Japanese cartoons.
Your all freaks, matt and jay r gay for each other while the rest of u freaks r lost in la la land.
shadowmanty 4 years ago
dude....SHUT....UP. -.-
nauaround 4 years ago
TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES!!!
TriggerHappyD 4 years ago
the link ganadorf fight was epic, best fight scene ever.
he beat the crap out that kid lol.
shado12107 4 years ago
very LAME. but harmless enough.
highoeyazmuhudee 4 years ago
dude you beat up a kid lol funny as hell
afrokenji 4 years ago
ok I though it was pretty lame but the gameboy part was fucking awesome
angelicXlolita 4 years ago
you guys are awsome!!!
AnimeTalk 4 years ago
ok i can understand good humour but seriously this is not funny at all
uttatechan 4 years ago
lol, that was a cool street fight, got out of the guillotine choke
ecasarez 4 years ago
hahahhahahahhahaahhaha u kicked that fucking little kids ass that was so awesome
tadashitaders 4 years ago
thay are sooooo gay
fightfan7 4 years ago
matt i love you.. that kid actually squealed LMAO
roxaSora11 4 years ago
how is this in the least bit funny?
liengreenleaf 4 years ago
The kid was crying for help. Seriously...
werehyenataur 4 years ago
Of course he was. =/
Pyrekins 4 years ago
Can't go wrong with Strong Bad!
Y'know, I heard about the kid and the beat down - seriously guys? You need to chill, rumors were false - as is the norm with RUMORS.
Dr34am3r 4 years ago
lol this is funny except that matt dude beating up the little kid thats just retarded..
JessieW 4 years ago 2
Wow... That smaller guy Matt is total f@cking retard. -_-'
devilcowangelpig 4 years ago
wtf?! Are you guys messed up or fucked up??? Why the fuck did you just beat up a POOR KID?! Get some f****** help!
Sabrini 4 years ago
You were beating up a little kid. That was evil. I'm sorry but I really do feel like ripping your limbs off.
itsonlyme222 4 years ago
did he just beat... and the kid was saying no? O_o;
Caramelle22 4 years ago
Someone should have thought twice before leaving a couple of downs kids with a video camera and microphone...
nanakihell 4 years ago
OMG thats who they were...
inuyashaisthebest 4 years ago
I saw you at Anime North, do you remember a Link and zelda?
JimmyBonder 4 years ago
Ok I have to say some of the things in this are funny but I dont agree with some of it. Like seriously guys you take it too far sometimes but kudos on some of it
MrFreeman99 4 years ago
They came back to anime north this year at 2007(For people that's just in another year.lol ^^;;)
MoonMoko 4 years ago
I hate these guys... what he did in like,.. 4:40... that was completely out of line... gawd... that kid was like... what... 10?
RenosGalKayoko 4 years ago
you do realize all of that was fake right?
Jinirawks 4 years ago
yeah, Right... that's what they want you to think
RenosGalKayoko 4 years ago
It was fake. Do you honestly think they would have aired it if it was real? Is your head screwed on right? Holy Fuck.
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unhapppybum 2 years ago
7:53 that girl is FAT to be kicking hight
Anko90 4 years ago
OMFG come back to AN this year! Seriously this was hilarious.
HighPriestessIce 4 years ago
these guys fucking rule, too bad they got banned by the gaiafag meet. they truly are an heros
blitzfenix 4 years ago
We didn't ban them. They happened to show up near us, then someone got security. Just because it happened near us doesn't mean it was our fault. :/
Angathol 4 years ago
Lolol.
Stop being so jealous. D;
Pyrekins 4 years ago
If you bastards come near me I will knee you in the balls, seriously.
JackCox 4 years ago
same here.... they come anywhere near me or my brother, they're dead
RenosGalKayoko 4 years ago
Then that makes you no different than them.
SFKhoa 4 years ago
uhm, I said if they go near my brother and try to beat him up, they're going down o.O
but they got banned so YAY!
RenosGalKayoko 4 years ago
Oh...whoops. Sorry about that. But them Conventioneers are persistent. They knew they were banned from AN'07, but they came anyway. o__O
SFKhoa 4 years ago
yeah, it's no problem. Any anti-conventioneer is a friend of mine xD
>.< they were idiots to try that.
RenosGalKayoko 4 years ago
To be honest, I'm completely neutral about it. I'm not anti-conventioneer, but I'm not a fan either. I agree that what they do gets a bit too far, but in the end, they're trying to serve publicity, and they've done a pretty good job by the amount of comments in this youtube video alone. :/
SFKhoa 4 years ago
hm... alright ^^
RenosGalKayoko 4 years ago
Then again, if I actually was into cosplaying, I'd hate them for sure.
SFKhoa 4 years ago
Well.. I am... I cosplayed all weekend ^^"
RenosGalKayoko 4 years ago
Holy hell, you reply fast. So you cosplayed? Then I'd understand the anger.
SFKhoa 4 years ago
Not yay.
It's a shame, they're hilarious.
Pyrekins 4 years ago
I'm going! I'm going as Harley from Pokemon~~~~~!! Look out.. for the bright LIME GREEN.
CittiMonroe 4 years ago
Duuude these guys are AWESOME!!! rofl Anyone going to anime north this year?? I'll see u there!!
akatsuki12321 4 years ago
CHYEAH SEE YOU THERE GURL!
RikoNaara 4 years ago
We are bad XD But in an awesome way!! X3
wait... how does that even work?
CrystalMeth24 4 years ago
I don't like these guys.They make us con goers look bad.>,<
yaoiSasuke257 4 years ago
cause you are bad....
FreakSymphony 4 years ago
lmao ive neva laughed this hard since i was 7 lol lmaoooooo 5 stars these guys are so crazy..... I LUV IT!
Tawfeeq123 4 years ago
omg come to otakon or nekocon please!
Jinirawks 4 years ago
CHILD ABUSE! Luv it!
Counting down the days to Anime North!
If the Crap-ventioneers come near me though I'm giving them the middle finger...and then some.
Velox 4 years ago
Oh my... the middle finger! look out!
jasonagnew 4 years ago
Ahah those street fighter dudes actually know a bit on fighting. Not great though.
kcsskillacan 4 years ago
omg that jerk beat up a little kid xD
I heard they got banned from Anime North. Serves them right!
o0TwilightPrincess0o 4 years ago
the little kid being beaten up
i know him
freaked me out so bad
im not lying
quackingmushroom 4 years ago
Lmaooo I remember that! i was watching the fight XP ....Love the conventioneers! =]
XxNeverAgainxX 5 years ago
lol omg this is so funny haha
EXtremeJB 5 years ago
so does everybody know it was me?? im just wondering if there are any non believers!
coolbob2000 5 years ago
uhh... nvm...men can be scary in girl character.
xXMidoriXx 5 years ago
wat's wrong with that? i think some girls actually look good in being a guy character
xXMidoriXx 5 years ago
man there are so many cross dressers ;d
minivuvu 5 years ago
lol i live like right there... its funny!
DiscordGardenXX 5 years ago
WICKED! what an awesome thing you guys have going, and although these guys are jokers and all. You can tell it wasn't real people, calm yourselves
Kyouryoku 5 years ago 2
After 20 conventions, I find you guys hilarious. Don't stop, please. Just make sure that you do have boundries, and that the kid was alright (which it seems he is, as he's posting here XD ).
But really, if I ran into you guys, I'd hug you. Just a word though: Don't mess with cosplayer's props, or just be careful. You break it, cosplayers get shit pissed. <3
KeiCaiAyan 5 years ago
Agrees! Like how Matt broke my Fai staff in this vid!
Mad pissed about that... but I guess it's my own fault for handing it over...
StreppyPoo 4 years ago
Dude i WAS the guy who was behind the salior moon *guy* when you interviewed him i sort of passed the screen with cat ears heheh gahhhhh i made it yesaaaaaa
Prezsama 5 years ago
you dont half to believe me i have facebook
Michael Yiu
coolbob2000 5 years ago
coool!
bladelovers 5 years ago
OMgosh!! O,o
soubaka 5 years ago
Yes, it was fake, it was an act. The kid's mother was standing right there. If it were real, Matt would've been arrested, and the parent would have never signed the release form.
Bampontius 5 years ago 2
OMG i was the guy my mom didn't know what was going on
coolbob2000 5 years ago
Hey These "Conventioneers" are fucking retards i think that in my recent discoveries many people seem to think that the kid geting the shit kicked out of him was fake I MEAN THAT MOTHER FUCKER JUMPED ON HIJM i mean really!! (didn't you hear the kid "squeak"when the dick jumped on him?) anyways BEWARE MAT CHIN next convention I AM GOING TO COME AND FIND YOU FOR THE SOLE PERPOUSE OF KICKING THE CRAP OUT OF YOU! (just for fun)
HeartlessAvenger 5 years ago
umm you're an idiot.. if you haven't already read the comment posted before you, bythe kid that got beat up saying it was fake.
SamIsLost 4 years ago
that boy was me.... i geuss it hurt a bit but he missed alot LMAO and also i wasn't sent to the HOSPITAL AND WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT? ALSO WHO IS MY COUSIN? MY COUSIN WENT BACK TO HONG KONG?
coolbob2000 5 years ago
I can prove if you want me to i could make a video of myself :) my mom wanted to know if it would be on T.V and also i was worried if i would be humiliated on T.V :P LMAO
coolbob2000 5 years ago
You people do realize that the clip where matt "beat up the kid" was fake right? The child mom's was right there beside us asking when it would be on TV.
jasonagnew 5 years ago
u guys shouldn't make fun of cosplayers also would u guys make of kids cause if like a 30 year old man likes anime that would be all right but little kids are aloud to like that stuff?
zZzdeidarazZz 3 years ago
No worries, Anime North staff are on top of this and have been informed to keep an eye out for this. I made sure to email the head of Con-Ops so it's already brought to their attention.
v^.^ stopping the Conventioneers one Convention at a time
chibilenne 5 years ago
I hate The Conventioneers. If they come to Anime North again, Matt Chin will be the one who gets the shit beaten out of him with a prop sword.
Angathol 5 years ago
My name is Andrew, i am the guy cosplaying as Ryu in this video, my friend Jamie Is Dan (GUy in pink). We also have a skit and outher video up if you type in Andrew Ragazzo into the search bar.
okoro14534 5 years ago
i was the guy that got beat up
coolbob2000 5 years ago
And you're 26? Right, I thought it was a little kid who got beat up...
Asecooper 5 years ago
you dont half to believe me i have facebook :P
Michael Yiu
own :D
coolbob2000 5 years ago
haha, Rear Naked Arm Choke worked well enough for me lol. Still beat him
okoro14534 5 years ago
GAME OVER!lmao
jdmcack 5 years ago
Yes they've really been banned, and from what I hear, FanExpo also might be banning them as well. Pretty soon conventions and cosplay functions will be safe from these idiots.
chibilenne 5 years ago
I doubt that they were banned, they made it to FanExpo, and I've heard around that they'll be back at next years Anime North, irregardless if they've been banned or not.
Bampontius 5 years ago
I just have to say. That is horrible. If I ever see you guys at any conventions I am just going to yell "These guys beat up little kids!" I dont know about those other people Just standing there doing nothing, but if I was there I would have done something about it instead of letting people laugh at the poor kid and doing nothing at all to help him. You guys took this too far. Thats not being funny, thats being dumb and you should have been reported for that.
sarahcbear 5 years ago
Haha, you guys got banned from Anime North, beating up random pedestrian isn't legal here =D
Fuzzehbunneh 5 years ago
did they really get banned? XD
WingGoddessX 5 years ago
Lawl, this is kickass.
Pyrekins 5 years ago
w00t some one cosplayed as Kisuke! <3
Yes I'm very observent.
xo0oxninjaxo0ox 5 years ago
Each part is a hit or miss for me,I do like to cosplay and think its an awesome hobby.I just think you guys take some things a little too far..still I love the Nintendo stuff you did,Great job on that I completely agree
Darst 5 years ago
I've spoken with Jason over messaging, and he cleared it all up for me. When all was over the kid was apparently laughing, and thought it was great he got on TV. SO NO MORE ABOUT THE KID BEING OWNED BY MATT.
Unforgiven11 5 years ago
What the fuck, man. They interviewed the kid's cousin at Fan Expo. The kid was sent to the hospital because of what Matt did to him. You're an idiot.
Angathol 5 years ago
Uh no. You're an idiot because that never happened.
The kid was fine and that guy was just a phony posing as a Matt Chin hater...
- Simon
leadingsimon 5 years ago 2
That was clarified in the comments section of this video, douchebag. LURK MOAR.
Angathol 4 years ago
I thought it was funny till' you they started to beat up that kid and doing things to others costumes. It was a bit rude... I can't believe some were laughing when he was doing that to the kid. I hope they don't come next year.
XiayouChan 5 years ago
I think the whole thing was great. Except the part where that poor kid got beat to the point of what sounded like crying. Beating up children just isn't cool, man.
Unforgiven11 5 years ago
Ya Chicn is a dick sometimes, but ya gotta admit the theme song is cool. Jay's alright, but it would be nice if he'd read my E-mails on Live Audio Wrestling. Thats the price I pay for being right all the time.
OnLineHeel 5 years ago
lmao-- this is amazing ^_^ You guys are my heroes!
sorounichi 5 years ago
ok i think was funny tho
jeannitakagome 5 years ago
You suck.
KoinuYukina 5 years ago
W00t im in there!!! Half way through there's a random fight between a short guy in white and a taller guy in pink, right after there's me as Fai with the big staff!!! XD im so happy i made it onto the show!!!
StreppyPoo 5 years ago
GASP! YOUR THE FAI?!? O_O I saw that happening!! wait... i never saw Tsubasa Chronicles at that time but still... YOUR THE FAI!!! ^.^
AznGal1122 5 years ago
as a security member of Anime North, due to alot of complaints on Cosplay.com about u guys, i hope u dont think of coming again next year. u were very rude and mean so hopefully u will be banned.
MiraiTrunksLove 5 years ago
yeah i have to admit these guys were kinda rude...
StreppyPoo 5 years ago
So What, they were funny, and they'll probably be back for Anime North '07
Bampontius 5 years ago
As a Con-goer of Anime North (I was at the Naruto Photoshoot you interrupted) and a cosplayer YOU PEOPLE ARE HORRIBLE!!
Specifically beating up that kid. I hope the next time you go to a convention someone takes a video of YOU having the crap knocked out of you by a group of cosplayers!
chibilenne 5 years ago
I think the Ryu guy could go for another Tazzmission and take the guys out, but I don't think anyone else would have a chance. 5 out of 5 for being awesome.
CactusSack123 5 years ago
if that was possible... c(0 ) () (0 )p
minivuvu 5 years ago
*seen it* whatever happened to the "Matt vs. Zaraki" battle...? Did he cut it off????? OO; that was the most funniest moments i've seen in Anime North!! ... well... its the only funniest moment i've seen in anime north ^^' *first year at the con*
AznGal1122 5 years ago
*hasnt seen this yet* OO; THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CALLED?!? >.o; ouch...
AznGal1122 5 years ago
AWSOME, , I am holding up the "yaoi paddle" in the conga line lol! Sasuke bitches!
Priestshinigami 5 years ago
I want ur paddle!!!!!
SoulinsideArmor 5 years ago
o^______^o dat was hilarious! can't wait 2 see da other parts!!lol
sora2kairi 5 years ago
very interesting, yea i saw those guys everywhere
IshidaKat 5 years ago