Rob Bell at Fuller Theological Seminary

[remusnigga]

Rob Bell Is A True man of God. people are Confusing Him with the REAl heretic mark Driscoll as Their Churches NOT AFFILIATED Both Have The same Name, Mars Hill.

[droptozro]

@remusnigga

Nope, both are teaching a false gospel... Driscoll because of the Limited Atonement and Bell because of a completely unbiblical gospel that claims people can still be saved after their first death.

[hatfieldadam]

Idiot alert. this guy should turn in his ordination. if he even has one. He is apostate. please, do not listen to this guy. Jesus is the only way to heaven. He came to die to save the lost. If you die in your sins, rejecting Christ, you will spend ETERNITY in hell. THe Bible is more than clear on this issue.

[theNewCovenantGroup]

We are thankful for the goodness that Bell shares. He is a good man and he certainly is thinking well.

[mrplainclothesman]

it must feel good for a non believer to see us throwing stones at our own people. after you guys are done patting yourselves on the back, click on the X on the corner of this window.

[revcole7]

What is the point of this video clip?

[tpalmtreest]

@revcole7 the point was to show someone that I went to a Rob Bell thing, and just show how packed it was. that's all.

[MarkToTheSky]

You people disgust me. With your talks of heresy, and excommunication. A den of vipers if what you sound like, you judge a man who does follows in Jesus' footsteps, when you do nothing but judge. Do not tell your neighbor that there is a stick in his eye, when they're a beam in yours. You fret under the questioning of doctrine, under the heart interpretation of the bible. You fear God so much theres no room for Love. You are nothing like Jesus with your accusations. Nothing at all.

[GenevaPilgrim]

@MarkToTheSky Does it ever occur 2 u that there r millions of people in the world that r kind, give to the poor & talk about love-that r not Christians?

There are lots of Atheists who do good. so the fact that Bell is all a/b love is not proof that he's a Christian & that Matthew 7 reference is tired. What about verse 5? Paul says in 1 Corinthians 5 to kick out members of the church who're corrupting the church. That's pretty judgmental. Paul talks a lot a/b passing judgment on certain things.

[MarkToTheSky]

@GenevaPilgrim A bible verse is "tired"? How could you say that? You're just another Christian ready to fight scripture with scripture until there's nowhere to go, nothing to say, like tic-tac-toe. Because you are threatened by something different than what you've been raised upon. But in this day and age, we don't need "leaders" to tell us what is right and wrong, what is of Christian doctrine and what isn't. We have eyes to see, and ears to hear, and both senses have developed.

[nmreich]

ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE HERETIC, APOSTATE, AND LUCIFERIAN ROB BELL:

watch?v=Miqu5fwtEdc

[MarkToTheSky]

@nmreich Luciferian? Are you out of your mind?

[GenevaPilgrim]

I can't believe Fuller allowed this heretic into it's university. It's very disturbing!

[KOGTV]

I can't believe you think Rob is a heretic. I wish I could have seen Rob speak at Fuller.

[GenevaPilgrim]

I've watched Rob on Youtube. That's how I came to this conclusion. His associate pastor is also a heratic-more so than he, but he is responsible for her hiring, so he's to blame. I'm sorry-he seems like a nice guy, but he's leading people in the wrong direction. He encourages his followers & readers to question the virgin birth (just to name 1 thing) & if Jesus is not God's son, then he's not part of the trinity & he's not God's son. Be careful who you put your trust in-Rob IS a smooth speaker.

[MarkToTheSky]

@GenevaPilgrim The trinity is a doctine, and doctrines are not inspired by God, but are inspired by man's interpretations. But men will always deform the scriptures to fit their needs, much like the Romans. Rob preaches the scriptures, naked of doctrine, he teaches the way of Jesus in the raw. & it's not surprising that most people don't agree with it. because they've been spoonfed their beliefs their entire lives.

[GenevaPilgrim]

@MarkToTheSky I won't argue the trinity. Bell's popularity tells me that his gospel is false. The Bible promises that those that preach the gospel will be hated & persecuted. Any preacher who's beloved by the world-b/c their message is so accepted by the world, is someone I should steer clear of. You can do whatever you want. Do u read the Bible in-depth very often? I only ask b/c b4 I started really reading my Bible regularly & really studying it-I was content w/ a message like Bell's too.

[drumbum10181]

Rob Bell graduated from Fuller; that's prob why they let him speak. And like it or not, he's one of the most influential pastors in America.

[GenevaPilgrim]

Well this I am aware of and that's what scares me.

[tanner0472]

Be careful that you haven't misinterpreted the meanings of his messages and theology. Most of the time, people just get caught up on the semantics of a message and fail to grasp what the sermon is all about. You may be right and he is heretical, but I haven't heard and seen enough to jump to that conclusion so swiftly.

[joseph82069]

wow doesn't say much for Fuller

[KOGTV]

To me it says a lot about Fuller.  I respect them now more than ever.

[ageofgrace]

As a Christian , it is not Robs job to make friends...preach the Gospel "his' way or be a nice exciting teacher.

His job is to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. There is NO different way. If Rob isnt informing people that Jesus Christ will be the one who judges them and sends them to an eternity apart from God, He is a false teacher...and at the same time leading ppeople away...not to.

A person could sit in Robs church for 20 years and never hear the Gospel...But thats his way, isnt it.!

[educatedthug15]

What I believe or anyone beleives means nothing if you dont preach it!There are many pastors and chrsitians who believe many thing but what do they PROCLAIM, what are they afraid to say.the gospel i am used to is the biblical one rob and his church is cotton candy christianity and you sir are not my brother in christ if your christ has no authority, my christ has all authority and its comes from scripture. if the bible is a human product, it can be compramised, ther is no middle ground w/ God

[educatedthug15]

come on bro, the bible is under attack, the truth is under attack, the gospel of our blessed Lord is under attack, Jesus is the living word, the word who became flesh, 2 timothy "all scipture is God breathed" and if u deny the sciptures as Gods written word you deny God, what god do you have a relationship with is the question. We cannot simply kill truth in the streets for the sake of peace!

[educatedthug15]

Jude 1:4 For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

2Thessalonians 2:10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved"

[educatedthug15]

being a christian is also Jude 1:3 Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints.

[educatedthug15]

No no no, this has nothing to do with velvet elvis ok, and of course he beleives the ible is important, the guy basis his life on it and pastors a "church" Rob bell said this is an article in christianity today. that the bible is a "human product' "rather than the product of a divine fiat"

Dont alow your love for a man take the place of love for Jesus Chirst

[educatedthug15]

Cont...The Bible is still in the center for us," Rob says, "but it's a different kind of center. We want to embrace mystery, rather than conquer it.

Christianity today article

"The Emergent Mystique"

[educatedthug15]

In fact, as the Bells describe it, after launching Mars Hill in 1999, they found themselves increasingly uncomfortable with church. "Life in the church had become so small," Kristen says. "It had worked for me for a long time. Then it stopped working." The Bells started questioning their assumptions about the Bible itself—"discovering the Bible as a human product," as Rob puts it, rather than the product of divine fiat. "

[cats9900]

can someone tell me what he's saying? I can't understand it.

[999sasha]

Rob Bell is a fucking God.

[sKeyes89]

Rob Bell spoke at Fuller? That's unfathomable. Fuller isn't going post-modern are they?

[cats9900]

Rob Bell is a Fuller alumnus. That might have something to do with it, but I've also heard that Fuller has become a bit more liberal.

[TheStyleHammer]

Matthew 24:11 "And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many." [NASB] It is already happening...

[bboyZro]

hey man thats your call.

but I don't think he is a prophet.

nor is he missleading. he isn't saying anything to different then what i've heard others say.

[educatedthug15]

saying that the bible is not insired by God is HERESY

[SagesOfSeraphim]

@educatedthug15 Im actually very interested. Does Rob Bell really say that the bible is not inerrant or not God-inspired? I believe you but Im curious when he said that

[tmoney1987]

wow dude really?

[TheStyleHammer]

uh, yeah : Rob Bell is here isn't he?

[greens47]

Discerning Bell's errors doesn't take much Bible knowledge or experience. He's a mesmerizing speaker and good story-teller, but he's miles away from sound Christian doctrine. He appears to be a universalist, denies the existence of Hell and redefines the atonement. His "gospel" can save no one.

[MarkToTheSky]

@greens47 & can you yourself affirm the existence of hell? Please, enlighten me. The earliest orthodox Christians didn't believe in eternal condemnation, you can deny it, or you can go do some well needed extensive research. The word Hell, is a "germanic" word, it is not rooted in Hebrew, Greek, or Coptic. It's translates from a number of words, Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, Tarturus. Hell is a pagan belief, and sadly, the imagery comes from none other than Dante's Inferno.

[thewedan]

@greens47 gee I should probably listen to you, random-you-tube-poster-who's-c­losed-their-account. you probably know more about this stuff than rob bell

[ShiftyLizardStore]

@thewedan yeah he does.

[ShiftyLizardStore]

@greens47 Very concise and 100% correct. Amen

[hanymgirgis]

fuller seminary rocks

[HemetHomeLoanGuy]

Really? This 15 second wandering clip of mumbling has been watched 23,000 times and is being argued about? According to this video, Rob Bell isn't a threat to Orthodoxy...he's trying out for the role of Charlie Brown's teacher.

[tpalmtreest]

yea...... i cant believe this 15 sec clip has this many hits and this many comments...

[guywithapen]

Ha thank you! I looked at this clip during my search to find clips of rob bell, to see what he believes. I see this clip... and what in the WORLD is it here for?

I mean... I'm sold by this clip. I'm buying everything Rob Bell ever made. HURRAY FOR THE 15 SECOND CLIP THAT CHANGED MY LIFE!

[drycreekvideo]

Rob Bell resides at the apex of Gnosticism in a juxtaposition twist. He claims to have divorced himself of a need for goofy spirituality in exchange for an "earthy" understanding of his own neo-spirituality. He clams a super ceding knowledge of the heart of Jesus and that makes original/classical Gnosticism tame by comparison!

[weeweelegs]

Bells of descernment should being going off, run from these people who are leading people to hell.

[tool2scream05]

ageofgrace, in reading your "commentary" on John 3:16-19, it's really kinda poor. It doesnt leave the idea that Jesus HAS ALREADY condemned us. Jesus does not condemn us, we condemn oursevles by not believing. That is what this verse says and that has been the biblical approach ever since the reformation (and even earlier). God does not put evildoers in hell because they have done evil and get what they deserve, Evil people go to hell because the refuse to receive what no one deserves.

[ehoset]

I think no one would disagree that it is helpful to know how others who have come before us have interpreted the Bible. However, as many have done well to point out, Bell is not merely suggesting something as simple as that. Often times, he is taking Rabbinical interpretations (which refers to a Judaism after the time of Christ) and presenting them as backdrop for the Christian Scriptures. This, as you might imagine is no way to do history.

[masterzero0000]

you know what all this arguments about rob bell being a heritic. its really annoying.

heres a quote from the bible.

"judge not lest you be judged"

meditate on that.

rob bell has led many to Christ and thats all that counts.

[ageofgrace]

You have totally taken the scriopture out of context....read the whole passage..read the whole book. read the whole bible.

Jesus does not say we are not to judge.

In the context of the book he tells us...We Have to judge..."but judge rightly"

Your not doing Rob Bell any favors...you are just proving his ministry is one of unbiblical secularism sprinkled with a few scriptures out of context.

[BurningCole]

it saddens me how many people listen to him and reads his stuff without realizing the heresy of it

[majik89d]

It saddens me that you make such accusations without Biblical proof whatsoever, just trying to put people off because you disagree with how Rob bell is presenting God's Word.

[ageofgrace]

Rob Bell presents a gospel that is satisfying to the ears of secular humanists.

No one is compelled to repent or move in their life in any way.

Rob Bell is creating a mega church of new agers.

[kn5000rules]

what is heresy?? tell me what rob bell teaches is heresy? Why don't you research his arguments and check them according to the historical view christian church. If you that you will discover a diffrent view of christianity. why don't you start doing some research on the councils of the early churh.

[ageofgrace]

Here is teaching of Rob Bells from one of his Nooma videos... Quote

" Jesus didnt condemn the woman caught in adultery.....Jesus NEVER condemned anyone...He NEVER did that" End Quote

If that is not heresy...what is.

[masterzero0000]

thats actually true. Jesus said that he did not come to condemn but to show the love of God and His ultimate goal dieing for us. give me a reference in the lifetime of Jesus where he condemned someone to hell. only God can condemn people. true Jesus is God, but he is also the Son of God. and God is 3 in 1.

anyways, when Jesus prayed, did He not pray to His Father. He could of prayed "dear Me...." instead of refering to God the Father

[ageofgrace]

Try this one....Rob Bell says in #? of his nooma videos that peter sunk in the water because he didnt have enough faith in himself.

Oh...Really?.....

By logical extension then,Peter did in fact walk on water to the point he did because of the faith he did have in himself according to Bell. If you step back and analyze his videos point by point you will see he preaches a half gospel. All flowers and light.

The bible cuncils us to teach "the whole council of God"

[masterzero0000]

what does this have something to do with Jesus condeming. and that is what the noomas are they teach about that. its like your pastor is talkig and he is doig a themed message. all he teaches about is one topic. thats what the noomas are they teach about the love God has for use + the Jewish background. and maybe your looking at it wrong. maybe what he is saying is that peter lost faith in himself that he could put his trust in Jesus. peter got scared. thats how i looked at it when i heard that.

[ageofgrace]

You should watch the Noomas again.

Rob Bell does not waver on this.

1.Peter walked on water because of his own faith in himself.

2.Jesus never, ever condemned anyone , ever, He never did that.

I dont know who Rob Bell thinks will be judging the quick and the dead at the end of time. (maybe Rob didnt read that part)

[IveGotItGotIt]

... Jesus died for everyone and God loves everyone... if Jesus didnt die on the cross he would have condemned everyone but guess what He did and He saved EVERYONE!... Heresy?

[apcasrroma]

Half truth actually. Jesus died for everyone, but not everyone will repent of their sins and accept His salvation. That's the only criteria for salvation. Not necessarily just believing in Jesus, but also and especially repenting of ones sins, turning away from future sin. Repentance is a BIG key to salvation.

[ageofgrace]

What you say it absolutely unbiblical....read John 3:16....and then read john 3;17, a passage you will NEVER hear Rob Bell speak on.

Also your concept of Gods love is very simplistic. This is where I have a real problem with R.Bell. He is very superficial in his understanding. There are levels of grace i Gods love. eg: God loves everyone>>>yes He provides air and food for everyone. That is not the same love or providence he provides for His people.

[ageofgrace]

I am afraid if you are not well aquainted with the bible, Rob Bells slick approach can suck you in. For example, the classic verse in the bible that says Jesus didnt come to condemn is John 3:16. Now read John 3:18 and 19.

Rob Bell would never in a million years quote these verses. The basic idea here isJesus HAS condemned us already, and His very presence is a sentence of condemnation to all mankind that dont beleive on him.

Rob Bell by his own addmission doesnt hold to sola scriptura

[kn5000rules]

If you know that he does not hold to sola scriptura, then what is your problem. He has a diffrent view of authority the you do. You should probably know that the early christian church did not believe in Sola scriptura, that was developed until the reformation. i encourage you to respect his view point of authority and that you be reminded about the diffrent traditions out there such as the orthodox that have millions of followers worlwide.

[ageofgrace]

His Authority???

As what, a motivational speaker?

You could attend his church for 10 years and never hear the gospel once. The bible is replete..."It is the power of the gospel unto salvation"

Paul even said "Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach unto you any gospel other than that which we preached unto you, let him be cursed".

If Jesus held to sola scriptura, we should too.

The Gospel unfortunately is not slick or clever enough for Mr Bell

[ageofgrace]

Also Sola Scriptura was codified during the reformation, but that does not mean it wasnt a reality before that. I do not have to remind you of the times that Jesus said "it is written" Nothing Jesus did or said stepped outside the bounds of scripture.

Rob Bell feels it is his calling to bend and stretch the word of God. He himself has said "No one really knows what the bible means anyway" which in itself is also contradicting scripture.

Check out J. Macarthur on this page

[incorruptablecrown]

Brother, I say this more out of sadness than anger, but when i read things written by apologists like yourself, my heart feels heavy and burdened, not lifted and free.

I was overcome by the love and grace of God the other night. I wanted to worship and talk to him, but i made the mistake of googleing something which lead me to an apologetics ministry site. That night, i went to sleep feeling confused, sad, burdened, and out of touch with the living God.

Bell's ministry brings me closer to God

[ageofgrace]

Rob Bell might very well learn from the scripture "the FEAR of the lord is the beginning of knowledge".

Untill Rob..or you gain a healthy respect for the uttermost Holiness of God and the pure depravity of the human condition there is no moving ahead.

Paul comended the Bereans for testing what he said in the light of scripture.

I suggest you do the same

[ageofgrace]

You may feel closer to God...But that isnt the point is it?

Our feelings are notoriuous for lying to us.

God didnt die on the cross so we could feel good. Jesus didnt abandon heaven to come and fix things on earth.

[ageofgrace]

i may also remind you that Christian apologists are working overtime dealing with people like Rob Bell who are chipping away bit by bit at the authority of the bible.

All I have to do is read this page and the comments from followers of Rob Bell to see the nonsense he teaches.

People quote scripture backwards...out of context...challenge the soverignty of God and the authourity of the bible...all in the name of the most high Rob Bell.

He will have much to answer for.

[ehoset]

In response to many comments here...Rob is taking Jewish sources (Rabbinics) and using them to help him interpret the Bible. This can be quite helpful. However, as is usually the trend, little or no attention is given as to the timeframe when these Jewish sources come from. It is not entirely helpful to interpret a 1st century teaching (i.e., the Bible) using a Rabbinic teaching that was not present until the 2nd century. Much of Rob's teaching is plagued with this problem.

[cheapham]

What's wrong with seeing how people have interpreted passages in the past? Should we discredit all past readings of texts? I really don't see how this is a "problem."

[ageofgrace]

I agree,...Rob Bells teaching on ancient Jewish tradition and religious culture is just plain laughable.

He should go back to school.

[masterzero0000]

hah...do you know how smart that guy is in tracking back cultures, especially the Hebrew language?

[ageofgrace]

Rob Bell is a joke at his historic knowledge of Judahism.

In one of his nooma videos he goes on to tell about the Rabbinic system of teaching young discilples and wearing the rabbis yoke.

This rabbinic system wasnt even started at the time of Jesus. Rob is so for off here it is silly.

Anytime I hear him expound 1st century Judahism he gets it wrong EVERYTIME

[masterzero0000]

you are actually wrong. Remember Samual. he was the wisest man ever. his parents took him to the priest/rabbi to learn from him. thats when God spoke to samual. and if im wrong when did it start... Jesus was always around the priests when He was a kid. and rob bell is correct. when the kids were young they were to learn the tora and the other one i dont remember the name

[ageofgrace]

Actually Solomon was touted as being the wisest man of all time.... not Samuel.

And The Rabbinic "sort of system did not even start untill the 3rd century"

It was ushered in as a replacement theological system in light of the lack of a temple because of its destruction in 70 AD.

Rob Bell is wrong. Not even close.

For a guy unnaturally obsessed with Jewish culture Rob B makes a real mess of Jewish History. He cant even figure out the YHWH without messing that up.

[masterzero0000]

sry i ment solomon.....

[masterzero0000]

well i cant change what you think so (and im not trying to..and if i am then im sorry) but ya there are some stuff that i dont aggree with on him but no one is perfect. and i did here a simular message 2 years ago before this came out so. maybe the way he says it is wrong but i think his intencions are good the he is trying to bring people to Christ. but he is correct in saying that children were required to learn the whole tora

[IveGotItGotIt]

its YHVH... and you have yet to show actual evidence of anything you've said... biblical or through the use of sources...

[gratefulsoldier]

Shalom - Yeshua is coming!

[jbohica]

Rob Bell is very intelligent. He so cleverly uses sophistry to twist the scriptures into eastern philosophy.

[jaysonwhelpley]

Judaism and Christianity are far more "Eastern" than Western. Western is the Celts, the American First Nations, the Romans and the Greeks. The mindset of Jews, of a God that comes here rather than a God or gods that are ELSEWHERE is a very Eastern mindset.

Rather than Bell "making" it Eastern, he's really resetting it into its original Eastern context and freeing it from the rhetorical and rationalistic forms of the West.

[GNews2Nite]

Google "Mars Hill Bible Church in Grandville, MI" .

He has a lot of his sermons there.

[snowboardertim]

There's a great book that studies this, maybe you should read it before you make any more slams. It's called Velvet Elvis, and unless you've read the whole thing prayerfully, you really go any further with this arguement.

The Word of God is Alive!

-In Christ's Love

[snowboardertim]

Do you know what the Jewish significance of the "yoke" is? It goes deeper than the thing an ox wears to pull something. It is a list of "dos" and "don'ts" that a Rabbi interprets based on the teaching in and interpretation of the Torah. That is what Jesus is refering to when he says that His yoke is "light."

[adamino1979]

snowboard, i heard rob bells teaching on this (yoke)...i was wondering where he got it from cuz i have never heard it before or after from any one else.. have you?

[mschellin2002]

If you read books on Jewish History, or Jewish Commentaries. Rabbi's all had a certain yoke, there teaching. He is using Jewish History and commentaries for His teaching, which makes him stinkin awsome.

[adamino1979]

have you read books on jewish history and discovered that this is true? or do you just believe everything rob bell says? this is the purpose of my question. if you have found it to be so, please lead me to a commentary that might be of help. be careful not to believe everything you hear. that could be quite dangerous.

[mschellin2002]

adam, if you read the jewish new testament commentary by david stern, he talks a lot about these things. Also Brad Young has a lot of stuff. Rob Bell isnt making all this up, its in books about the roots of Judaism. You just have to read them.

[adamino1979]

hey, thanks. i'll look into that. =)

[ageofgrace]

Stinkin yes...awesome no.

[ageofgrace]

man...you are so far off the mark here ...so is Rob bell.

The Rabbinic system that Rob Bell tries to tie to Jesus time didnt exist untill the 3rd century.

Rob Bell is a wannabe historian.

It is nonsense.

You are trying to learn 1st century Judahism from a bass player?

[snowboardertim]

Sounds like the same gospel Rob Bell teaches from to me. The only thing Rob Bell does "differently" is research into the Jewish culture and setting that Jesus lived in, which is very pertinent to truly understanding what is going on in the New Testament.

[jstap]

A) how does Rob Bell not teach the Gospel

B) What would you tell us about the Gospel of the Bible?

[archijunky]

Here is the gospel of the Bible:

Man has broken God's law (sin). Because of that we will be guilty on judgement day. The penalty will be an eternity in hell.

But God came to earth in human form. Jesus Christ. Lived a perfect life. Was put on the cross to bear God's wrath for us. He died and three days later rose from the grave.

But ONLY if you repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus will you be forgiven. Only then will you inherit eternal life.

[abigator85]

I'm still not clear on how Rob bell doesn't teach the "biblical gospel." Can you elaborate? Point to specific instances?

[jstap]

Okay,what does it mean to repent...and what does it mean to put your faith in Jesus....and when or how do you inherit eternal life? And you didn't answer my question on how Rob Bell preaches something else

[snowboardertim]

Sounds like the same gospel Rob Bell teaches from to me. The only thing Rob Bell does "differently" is research into the Jewish culture and setting that Jesus lived in, which is very pertinent to truly understanding what is going on in the New Testament.

[ageofgrace]

Rob Bells comments and studies of Jewish culture and tradition are all fundementally wrong. Great stories...but lacking in historical substance.

[sonofcohen]

So the gospel is only relevant to my death? What about life? According to your phrasing I become a christian and then wait until I die. Does not Jesus start his teaching with "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." The Gospel is just as much about today as it is tomorrow.

[kn5000rules]

That is you view of Humanity and sin. Which by the looks of it it seems that you are coming from a austinian point of view. I encourage you to examine that doctrine which was not the doctrine that the early church father believed. You should research ancestral Sin.

[archijunky]

Rob Bells teachings are going to send more people to hell than all the bars in America. What a shame.

[abigator85]

A) How are Rob Bell's teachings going to send people to hell?

B) How are bars going to send people to hell?

[archijunky]

A) He does not teach the biblical gospel.

B) An unrepentant sinner in more likely to be at a bar and drink themself to death. Ok, no the bar itself does not send them to hell just like the church will not send you to heaven, but it will sure get you there quicker.

Tell me the gospel of Rob Bell and I will tell you the gospel of the Bible.

[mschellin2002]

I think you have a great heart, but you need to study more, and study what people are teaching. Dont just google someone and read what there critics have to say. If your a critic, you will find fault in what everyone says but yourself.