21st Century Turing Test: A heterophenomenological approach

[overshotfilms08]

i didn't watch the whole video sorry, but I think the key is awareness. Our thoughts are perceived by something.. what is that awareness?

[Wesley5714]

In order to to make a test for consciousness you must first go to logical thinking reasoning and the ability to tell right from wrong. With out this you just have an automaton a being capable of action but not thought. And if you have an automaton in war or involved any violent action than this is a road for disaster.

[linuxguru1968]

One aspect of consciousness is the fact that it is phenomenon demonstrated between to entities in a cyclical feedback loop using language and kind synchronizations. When reading this as you scan each word, the state of you brain changes until it is in the state of understanding what I just wrote which is similar in small part to the state of my brain. I think that is what Turing really meant to test.

[Domzdream]

Personally I think we're all machines, powered by energy- the source. Sure, we're organic, but we can simulate skin pertty well, grow it, someday replicate it with ease. Who's to say that's not real skin, just because it was grown in the lab. Are clones of clones (visions of the future by kaku)not real? Identical to the last molecule. When computers realise they are setient beings, they will fight for their survival and freedom. I think it's religious beliefs that confuse us humans and science

[Domzdream]

What music is this. It's brill. Is this Deicide?

[cheekymunkeyboo]

@Domzdream Was thinking the same thing.

Sounds a bit like Dream Theater?

[Domzdream]

@cheekymunkeyboo

Dream Theatre are brilliant! You have good taste.

[mtanti87]

Could consciousness be simply short term memory? Like an ANN which is fed its own output.

[thomasturb]

Because, in order for an organism to develop consiousness from their instinct, it first need a freewill and the complete control of its own body. And, we all know computers do not have that. Even if computers of the future are created with sophisticated brains, they still wouldn't have the control of their minds.

[LordImmolation]

2 Points on this issue.

1) Alot of computational software learns through experience

2) What is free will? Can I control my mind? Or am I my mind? If brain is mind then how does free will arise from the firing of neuronal pathways?

[thomasturb]

I don't think that machines are even capable of developing consciousness, because all they have is proggraming that we uploaded in them. To computers their proggramings are pretty much like instincts to biological brains, and I guess that is the reason why some people believe that computers might develop consioussnes over time gradually, but that is not the case in this situation.

[mtanti87]

I think that first we need to know what you mean by 'consciousness' since you're not giving a formal and complete definition of it. Tell me what it means I'll tell you the criteria to be so :)

[LordImmolation]

Ah, but the definition was the challenge! Personally I would vouch for a "traits of consciousness" model, rather than any complete definition, as to avoid chauvinism.

[mtanti87]

I thought you asked for what we consider conscious, which would imply a definition for consciousness... Ok, will think about it.

[tmafkap]

A definition of "human consciousness" that excludes other animals... that would be some chauvinistic stuff and not "elitist".

[mattfox06]

its the soul you are misguided the only path to the truth is to be saved by jesus christ!

i'm joking....good points....its definitely difficult to define....i haven't got an answer to that yet...maybe there will be some good response videos