@klakkaros I'm not talking about the graphical representation of them on a computer screen i'm talking about the mathmatics. Mathematics doesn't work on a 2 dimensional plane.
@unlockthepower Yep, still think you're talking rubbish, but provide me with an example of a fractal that is infinitely dimensional, and I will accept your point.
@unlockthepower I understand and accept that. I know about mathematics. When you say "the geometric representation of them" it doesn't make sense. A Fractal IS a geometric shape, the mathematics behind it is an iteration, or a difference equation. Fractals are self similar and are infinite, but that doesn't mean they are infinitely dimensional.
@willrandship People have no understanding of this. "the mandelbrot was first a mathematical formula"... there is no such thing as "the mandelbrot".. you're talking about the "Mandelbrot Set", which is (you'll never guess) a SET of elements. When you PLOT these elements in the complex PLANE, you form a FRACTAL. (a plane is a 2D object) you cannot "tweak" it into a 3D object, and if you do, you're no longer talking about the Mandelbrot Set.
@klakkaros I'm aware of the term "mandelbrot set" and it is a mathematical formula that gives you these sets of elements. The most common way I see to represent the mandelbrot set in 3D is just to do a "lathe" style effect, rotating the mandelbrot, but in this video they represent it using a similar system to how they represent the colors. You don't tweak the set itself, you tweak the way you show it.
@willrandship Wrong. This is not about tweaking the colors. The shapes is this video do not exist at all in the traditional 2D Mandelbrot set. I called this 3D Mandelbrot set but the truth is that a real 3D Mandelbrot set does not exist, it is the holy grail of fractal explorers, but there are good mathematical reasons for it not to be possible (multiplication in 3D is not commutative). Google "Mandelbulb" for more information, and visit fractalforums! All the best.
Whenever I see a fracal video, I need to take about 300 Advil for the resulting migrane.
TheWinnieston 2 months ago
This is boss.
zettix1 9 months ago
some one should edit that scene from scanners were that guys head explodes. . . . . .
at the end of this video.
Wheatheredtome 10 months ago 2
bib993 this is truely amazing. i picture is definitely worth an infinite amount of words.
633r 11 months ago
What song was that.
NegiJew 11 months ago
Some song that is designed to give you a heart attack or cardiac arrrest from shock ! I have a phobia !!
EmmetEarwax 3 months ago
I like the cords in the end moving with the camera.
Somehow reminds me of the eyefuzz you can see sometimes, moving in the direction where you move your eye ;)
Do you know if they are renderingerrors or caves inside the 3d-brot?
d0lphchrist 1 year ago
the mad thing about fractals is they are not 2d, 3d even 4d but infinitely dimensional!
unlockthepower 1 year ago
@unlockthepower You're wrong, they are not infinitely dimensional, but the majority of them are 2D.
klakkaros 1 year ago
@klakkaros I'm not talking about the graphical representation of them on a computer screen i'm talking about the mathmatics. Mathematics doesn't work on a 2 dimensional plane.
unlockthepower 1 year ago
@unlockthepower Yep, still think you're talking rubbish, but provide me with an example of a fractal that is infinitely dimensional, and I will accept your point.
klakkaros 1 year ago
@klakkaros I think your missing the point. A fractal is infinite by it's very nature.
unlockthepower 1 year ago
@unlockthepower I understand and accept that. I know about mathematics. When you say "the geometric representation of them" it doesn't make sense. A Fractal IS a geometric shape, the mathematics behind it is an iteration, or a difference equation. Fractals are self similar and are infinite, but that doesn't mean they are infinitely dimensional.
klakkaros 1 year ago 2
@klakkaros But the mandelbrot was first a mathematical formula, which then was made into a geometrical representation.
You can get a 3D representation by tweaking how you show the calculations.
willrandship 7 months ago
@willrandship People have no understanding of this. "the mandelbrot was first a mathematical formula"... there is no such thing as "the mandelbrot".. you're talking about the "Mandelbrot Set", which is (you'll never guess) a SET of elements. When you PLOT these elements in the complex PLANE, you form a FRACTAL. (a plane is a 2D object) you cannot "tweak" it into a 3D object, and if you do, you're no longer talking about the Mandelbrot Set.
klakkaros 7 months ago
@klakkaros I'm aware of the term "mandelbrot set" and it is a mathematical formula that gives you these sets of elements. The most common way I see to represent the mandelbrot set in 3D is just to do a "lathe" style effect, rotating the mandelbrot, but in this video they represent it using a similar system to how they represent the colors. You don't tweak the set itself, you tweak the way you show it.
willrandship 7 months ago
@willrandship You wouldn't see much if you rotated it around its axis of symmetry. I've seen better versions of it by generalising the forumula.
pcdsgh 5 months ago
@willrandship Wrong. This is not about tweaking the colors. The shapes is this video do not exist at all in the traditional 2D Mandelbrot set. I called this 3D Mandelbrot set but the truth is that a real 3D Mandelbrot set does not exist, it is the holy grail of fractal explorers, but there are good mathematical reasons for it not to be possible (multiplication in 3D is not commutative). Google "Mandelbulb" for more information, and visit fractalforums! All the best.
bib993 5 months ago
@unlockthepower
they can be considered to have fractional dimension.
partway between a curve and a surface, or between a surface and a volume, etc.
walter0bz 10 months ago
confusing
Daghead 1 year ago
i think i just jizzed in 3D
dylandionrakiman 1 year ago 16