So again we have a GT500 which has been modded (stock is 500hp and 475tq) racing against a 4 door sedan that is 450 hp and 446 tq, and the ford boys are trying to say the GT500 is a "heavy" car? That benz is 4000lbs guys and has less hp and torque even before you modded the GT. That GT "should" walk the C63 in this race no questions asked. To me this is the same as a video with a Porsche beating a 370Z, both performance cars but not in the same category so not much of a surprise for results
@montecitan this is what I'm saying.. if the cars are the same weight...then how is the ford "heavy"? if the ford comes stock with more juice than the C63, then with it done up with perf. mods it should do exactly what this vid shows. I'd like to see a stock race with both cars. What were you trying to say with your comment ? what did I assume that was wrong?
Sorry I was reading other posts regarding how heavy the Benz might be. my post was meant to agree with you the assumptions comment was in general, my mistake.. Was trying to reiterate that the cars were essentially equal weight-wise
@montecitan no need to apologize bro... I just didn't see how the assumptions thing applied. Now that you say where you were coming from it makes perfect sense
that RUSTANG is HEAVY and has the same aerodybamics as a school bus so thats why its slow. Do only reason it gets decent speed its because of the supercharger.
@noshabibis The C63 is heavier than the GT500.... so ur retarded.. Thats why, once the GT500 got traction, it pulled past this heavy pig of a Benz' at the end of the video
as much as i would want the c63 to win i think the gt500 would have won if he would have had a better launch maybe a rolling start next time or a highway pull. GOOD VIDEO BTW!!!
Yes, 19-20% loss. The 2010 GT500 has 540 stock yes. Also weighs 39XX just like the C63. The difference is the 451 HP C63 runs the 1/4 in 12.5. The 540HP GT500 runs the 1/4 in 12.5, With a simple tune and k&N's the C63 is a full second quicker than the GT500 at its stock HP.
There is a p31 performance package that is 4K more that brings the car to 480HP and the 1/4 down to 12 flat. Not worth it in my opinion.
FYI: my warranty is completely fine with the tune.
@ProPainC63 okay well how much can you get out of a c63 with the same items im pretty sure a very well engineered amg car is harder to get power out of since amg since amg spent so much time perfecting it.
@TeamDivision1 Ill break it down for you. My C63 had 451 HP at the crank stock. With a simple tune and K&N's I dynoed 447HP to the wheels. Aprox 550HP at the crank. Just that tune alone puts the C63 from 12.3ish stock to 11.6 in the 1/4. You can get about 650HP out of the C63 completely NA. No tubro or blower. A friend of mine has a tune, headers, K&N's and is did 10.9 in the 1/4 mile. Trust me bro. The C63 is a beast and nowhere near potential stock.
@ProPainC63 so your drivetrain loss is at 20%? btw 445 to the wheels is what a stock gt500 dynos at and not the newest one the 2007 model. I know the C63 is a beast but i think for the money a gt500 would be easier to get more power out of. could you opt for a 600 hp model and keep a warranty if you had the extra cash?
@nikobellic163 if u knew cars u would know that benz is known for having massing amount of torque ever seen mustang stock from factory have over 800 pounds of torque? yea me neither
@nawzy202 OK- your talking about a V12 TWIN TURBO and yes, I've seen HUNDREDS of Camaro's and Mustangs with that kind of torque and more cream puff...
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Ford = american crap LOL benz = Natzi power if you wanna go with american go with dodge or chevy LOL mustang drivers are pecker heads and like peckers in there mouth
gotta watch out for that wheel hop bro in the gt500. gt500's are almost shit from the starting line unless you have some serious cash in the suspension. that is the one thing i hate about mine, i wanna do a tvs and some other mods but first i have to get the suspension done or else it would all be worthless.
True.. Ford said themselves if they spent any money on proper undercarriage and suspension the car would become more expensive and they would "miss their targeted audience" basically... if you dont add good stuff yourself, its gonna suck.
pretty much an automotive presss conference and they did post this kind of response to a few magazines who were curious about WHY ford used the solid axle. This is why the 415 HP roush stage 3 can outrun the gt500 strightline or corners It's setup properly, bottom line
@Domman56 they had the IRS in the Cobra, but demand for the live axles from the drag racers changed their minds I guess.... so I guess you could say Ford listen to demand?
@NedacFilms a lot of people say ford "listened" to the drag racers who owned the 03/04 cobras who wanted the live axle - but i can't find any facts that support that. Are you sure they weren't cutting corners? saving money? less warranty claims of 03/04 owners who break their IRS due to dig races under warranty? If they cared so much about people competitively drag racing their mustang and winning, why would they breed a drag racer with a curb weight of 4,000 lbs?
@NedacFilms@NedacFilms a lot of people say ford "listened" to the drag racers who owned the 03/04 cobras who wanted the live axle - but i can't find any facts that support that. Are you sure they weren't cutting corners? saving money? less warranty claims of 03/04 owners who break their IRS due to dig races under warranty? If they cared so much about people competitively drag racing their mustang and winning, why would they breed a drag racer with a curb weight of 4,000 lbs?
@NedacFilms@NedacFilms a lot of people say ford "listened" to the drag racers who owned the 03/04 cobras who wanted the live axle - but i can't find any facts that support that. Are you sure they weren't cutting corners? saving money? less warranty claims of 03/04 owners who break their IRS due to dig races under warranty? If they cared so much about people competitively drag racing their mustang and winning, why would they breed a drag racer with a curb weight of 4,000 lbs?
@NedacFilms@NedacFilms a lot of people say ford "listened" to the drag racers who owned the 03/04 cobras who wanted the live axle - but i can't find any facts that support that. Are you sure they weren't cutting corners? saving money? less warranty claims of 03/04 owners who break their IRS due to dig races under warranty? If they cared so much about people competitively drag racing their mustang and winning, why would they breed a drag racer with a curb weight of 4,000 lbs?
@NedacFilms@NedacFilms a lot of people say ford "listened" to the drag racers who owned the 03/04 cobras who wanted the live axle - but i can't find any facts that support that. Are you sure they weren't cutting corners? saving money? less warranty claims of 03/04 owners who break their IRS due to dig races under warranty? If they cared so much about people competitively drag racing their mustang and winning, why would they breed a drag racer with a curb weight of 4,000 lbs?
@NedacFilms@NedacFilms a lot of people say ford "listened" to the drag racers who owned the 03/04 cobras who wanted the live axle - but i can't find any facts that support that. Are you sure they weren't cutting corners? saving money? less warranty claims of 03/04 owners who break their IRS due to dig races under warranty? If they cared so much about people competitively drag racing their mustang and winning, why would they breed a drag racer with a curb weight of 4,000 lbs?
@NedacFilms@NedacFilms a lot of people say ford "listened" to the drag racers who owned the 03/04 cobras who wanted the live axle - but i can't find any facts that support that. Are you sure they weren't cutting corners? saving money? less warranty claims of 03/04 owners who break their IRS due to dig races under warranty? If they cared so much about people competitively drag racing their mustang and winning, why would they breed a drag racer with a curb weight of 4,000 lbs?
Come on.. its a Mustang. Ford always left it up to the tuneshops to get any performance out of it. A Mustang is just a base for tuning and catalogue parts.
@Janusha best thing about the Mustang is blue collar motorheads can afford and modify the crap out of it, thats what American Hot Rodding is all about.
I know. And if a Mustang is what you want. nothing else will do. Like a Harley... its a whole culture isnt it. Try telling a Harley man that Honda is better and he will kick your arse. I totally understand all that stuff and we dont have it in europe. There is much less modifying on an affordable level. Its just when americans put 1000 hp into a Mustang and think that makes it a Ferrari contender that it goes bad. Every tuneshop in USA cant change the fact that a Mustang is a Mustang.
@Janusha I'm a huge fan of road racing events like KONI Challenge, the World Challenge, the American Iron series and the Camaro-Mustang Challenge... where Mustang competes with BMW and Porsche (KONI Challenge series) and does damn well. Any Mustang owner that thinks his 1000hp Cobra is in the same catagory as a Ferrari is simply an idiot. Completely different market. The Mustang is still a great car, the SVT Cobra is even better, its just some of the owners-drivers that are the pieces of shit.
the Mustang is an icon. Its its own culture. Like a Harley. What can you compare to a Harley ? Its old fashion and barnyard engineered on purpose. There is something honest and sincere about a man, his wrench, axle grease and the open road. The whole american dream thing. (by the way.. I cant believe they dont revive the old Cobra) I dont know if a Mustang can be compared to anything else really. The Mustang on its own isnt a great car. Its only a base for home improvements.
Yeah but when you factor in the fact that the Ford had alll those mods to it and still only pulled that much, that means if the mercedes had the same mods it woulda pulled on the GT500 easy
@Domman56 all what mods? a filter, mufflers and computer adjustment? There isn't even any real bolt-ons yet.... LOL!!!! What does that Benz cost anyway? For the price, it should be killing the Mustang, not the other way around.
@Domman56 not a statement, a question (don't you see the question mark) and actually I just googled it and the AMG is around $20,000 more than the GT500, and $70k was not the right price for either... also, we are talking GT500, not the Super Snake pricing. The Mustang is cheaper priced, a cheaper build and lower tech... Anyway, I watched all three of these videos, and the Mustang won all three. Watch the other 2 races. The AMG is a fantastic car, just not my style. I'm just more blue collar.
Dude, that was a truly stupid statement on your behalf. The mustang costs 50,000 with all options and mercedes benz costs around 60,000 with all options.
So again we have a GT500 which has been modded (stock is 500hp and 475tq) racing against a 4 door sedan that is 450 hp and 446 tq, and the ford boys are trying to say the GT500 is a "heavy" car? That benz is 4000lbs guys and has less hp and torque even before you modded the GT. That GT "should" walk the C63 in this race no questions asked. To me this is the same as a video with a Porsche beating a 370Z, both performance cars but not in the same category so not much of a surprise for results
demonchild812 4 months ago
@demonchild812 Curb weight of the C63 per benz is 3917lb, Ford lists the GT500 curb weight as 3920 lbs.. Assumptions are awesome.
montecitan 1 month ago
@montecitan this is what I'm saying.. if the cars are the same weight...then how is the ford "heavy"? if the ford comes stock with more juice than the C63, then with it done up with perf. mods it should do exactly what this vid shows. I'd like to see a stock race with both cars. What were you trying to say with your comment ? what did I assume that was wrong?
demonchild812 1 month ago
Sorry I was reading other posts regarding how heavy the Benz might be. my post was meant to agree with you the assumptions comment was in general, my mistake.. Was trying to reiterate that the cars were essentially equal weight-wise
montecitan 1 month ago
@montecitan no need to apologize bro... I just didn't see how the assumptions thing applied. Now that you say where you were coming from it makes perfect sense
demonchild812 1 month ago
people fast and furious have professional drivers not dumb ass teenagers
nightruler666 6 months ago
Gt500 won...
deanP382 8 months ago 6
@deanP382 haha yeah , won the second the c63 stopped flooring it. We call that ricer fly-by my friend.
n00kz 8 months ago
@n00kz Watch the other ids, the GT500 wins every time
deanP382 8 months ago
the M5 did it
M6 whooped that ass too
Porsche ofcourse spanked it
now the benzos
i personally think the shelby should be racing ford focus. buahahahahaha!!
OWNED!
kay19833 10 months ago
@kay19833 The GT500 is a disgrace. I love fords, but the 5.0 2011 gt is where its at.
And in 2012 The new BOSS mustang. OMG.
CodyACeynar 8 months ago
@kay19833 it just won...
GranTorino992 2 weeks ago
that RUSTANG is HEAVY and has the same aerodybamics as a school bus so thats why its slow. Do only reason it gets decent speed its because of the supercharger.
noshabibis 10 months ago
@noshabibis The C63 is heavier than the GT500.... so ur retarded.. Thats why, once the GT500 got traction, it pulled past this heavy pig of a Benz' at the end of the video
bulldog190 10 months ago
@bulldog190 It pulled past the benz cuz the benz slowed down obviously it was the end of the race.
320bit 7 months ago
Nice ricer flyby GT500.....lol smoked!
STAGEIIGN 11 months ago
PUT THE WINDOWS UP
85camaroguy 1 year ago
as much as i would want the c63 to win i think the gt500 would have won if he would have had a better launch maybe a rolling start next time or a highway pull. GOOD VIDEO BTW!!!
sphenct15 1 year ago
@sphenct15 looked like it was a rolling start....... sounded like he still had traction control on and it activated when he started to spin in second
VRtek01GT 1 year ago
Yes, 19-20% loss. The 2010 GT500 has 540 stock yes. Also weighs 39XX just like the C63. The difference is the 451 HP C63 runs the 1/4 in 12.5. The 540HP GT500 runs the 1/4 in 12.5, With a simple tune and k&N's the C63 is a full second quicker than the GT500 at its stock HP.
There is a p31 performance package that is 4K more that brings the car to 480HP and the 1/4 down to 12 flat. Not worth it in my opinion.
FYI: my warranty is completely fine with the tune.
ProPainC63 1 year ago
c 63 is faster. all thiis is bullshit
elperro1968 1 year ago
Tune the C63 and the GT500 wont even come close.
ProPainC63 1 year ago
@ProPainC63 haha tune the gt500 and thats faster whats your point in saying anything. plus the gt500 would be easier to get power out of.
TeamDivision1 1 year ago
@TeamDivision1 LOL.. the GT500 was tuned... Durrrr.... Thats the point... gt500 with k&n filter , tune and magnaflow cat back. LTR.
ProPainC63 1 year ago
@ProPainC63 okay well how much can you get out of a c63 with the same items im pretty sure a very well engineered amg car is harder to get power out of since amg since amg spent so much time perfecting it.
TeamDivision1 1 year ago
@TeamDivision1 Ill break it down for you. My C63 had 451 HP at the crank stock. With a simple tune and K&N's I dynoed 447HP to the wheels. Aprox 550HP at the crank. Just that tune alone puts the C63 from 12.3ish stock to 11.6 in the 1/4. You can get about 650HP out of the C63 completely NA. No tubro or blower. A friend of mine has a tune, headers, K&N's and is did 10.9 in the 1/4 mile. Trust me bro. The C63 is a beast and nowhere near potential stock.
ProPainC63 1 year ago
@ProPainC63 so your drivetrain loss is at 20%? btw 445 to the wheels is what a stock gt500 dynos at and not the newest one the 2007 model. I know the C63 is a beast but i think for the money a gt500 would be easier to get more power out of. could you opt for a 600 hp model and keep a warranty if you had the extra cash?
TeamDivision1 1 year ago
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ProPainC63 1 year ago
@ProPainC63 haha tune the gt500 and thats faster whats your point in saying anything. plus the gt500 would be easier to get power out of.cheaper
TeamDivision1 1 year ago
fj crusier <3
grounded4ever1987 1 year ago
and BTW i doubt this is c63 amg 63 will give that GT500 run for its money with less weight and 457hp and 443 torque
nawzy202 1 year ago
wtf he went from 1st to 3rd lol.... anyway us mustang owners got something called torque!! good race
nikobellic163 1 year ago
@nikobellic163 if u knew cars u would know that benz is known for having massing amount of torque ever seen mustang stock from factory have over 800 pounds of torque? yea me neither
nawzy202 1 year ago
@nawzy202 you mad!
nikobellic163 1 year ago
@nawzy202 OK- your talking about a V12 TWIN TURBO and yes, I've seen HUNDREDS of Camaro's and Mustangs with that kind of torque and more cream puff...
cantbsdave 1 year ago
@nawzy202 Whats the price tag on one of those by the way?
TeamDivision1 1 year ago
Clean racee!!! watt colorr are the racingg stripesz'? blackk or bluee?
fattkiid13 1 year ago
The GT500 still walked the Benz down and, won. ;-)
quessbee123 1 year ago
@quessbee123
Uh you man when the C63 let up?
princemarko 1 year ago
great driver ,MUSTANG RULES
svg571 1 year ago
TRACTION!!
cantbsdave 1 year ago
looooool that wasn't C63 also what's that sound in the other car is that C63 loooool
grdanl 1 year ago
LOL who the fuck is driving that Cobra? Idiot.
bigdefense777 1 year ago
i like how the shelby fucks up the shift lol
x06xMUSTANGx19x 1 year ago
Yea please dont type unless you know what your talking about. That was nice of the Mercedes to slow down.
DrGamble28 2 years ago
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Ford = american crap LOL benz = Natzi power if you wanna go with american go with dodge or chevy LOL mustang drivers are pecker heads and like peckers in there mouth
TheDOWNSOUTHG 2 years ago
Yeah and the Mercedes are built like 100 times better too!
gray09wrx 2 years ago
C63 is automatic with launch control hence the better launch then the GT500
hieuluu2 2 years ago 2
gotta watch out for that wheel hop bro in the gt500. gt500's are almost shit from the starting line unless you have some serious cash in the suspension. that is the one thing i hate about mine, i wanna do a tvs and some other mods but first i have to get the suspension done or else it would all be worthless.
RCROACH1 2 years ago
True.. Ford said themselves if they spent any money on proper undercarriage and suspension the car would become more expensive and they would "miss their targeted audience" basically... if you dont add good stuff yourself, its gonna suck.
Janusha 2 years ago
@Janusha what did Ford say this in? A magazine?
SN95Project 2 years ago 2
pretty much an automotive presss conference and they did post this kind of response to a few magazines who were curious about WHY ford used the solid axle. This is why the 415 HP roush stage 3 can outrun the gt500 strightline or corners It's setup properly, bottom line
Domman56 2 years ago
@Domman56 they had the IRS in the Cobra, but demand for the live axles from the drag racers changed their minds I guess.... so I guess you could say Ford listen to demand?
NedacFilms 2 years ago
@NedacFilms a lot of people say ford "listened" to the drag racers who owned the 03/04 cobras who wanted the live axle - but i can't find any facts that support that. Are you sure they weren't cutting corners? saving money? less warranty claims of 03/04 owners who break their IRS due to dig races under warranty? If they cared so much about people competitively drag racing their mustang and winning, why would they breed a drag racer with a curb weight of 4,000 lbs?
blinkimgone04 1 year ago
@NedacFilms @NedacFilms a lot of people say ford "listened" to the drag racers who owned the 03/04 cobras who wanted the live axle - but i can't find any facts that support that. Are you sure they weren't cutting corners? saving money? less warranty claims of 03/04 owners who break their IRS due to dig races under warranty? If they cared so much about people competitively drag racing their mustang and winning, why would they breed a drag racer with a curb weight of 4,000 lbs?
blinkimgone04 1 year ago
@NedacFilms @NedacFilms a lot of people say ford "listened" to the drag racers who owned the 03/04 cobras who wanted the live axle - but i can't find any facts that support that. Are you sure they weren't cutting corners? saving money? less warranty claims of 03/04 owners who break their IRS due to dig races under warranty? If they cared so much about people competitively drag racing their mustang and winning, why would they breed a drag racer with a curb weight of 4,000 lbs?
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@NedacFilms @NedacFilms a lot of people say ford "listened" to the drag racers who owned the 03/04 cobras who wanted the live axle - but i can't find any facts that support that. Are you sure they weren't cutting corners? saving money? less warranty claims of 03/04 owners who break their IRS due to dig races under warranty? If they cared so much about people competitively drag racing their mustang and winning, why would they breed a drag racer with a curb weight of 4,000 lbs?
blinkimgone04 1 year ago
Come on.. its a Mustang. Ford always left it up to the tuneshops to get any performance out of it. A Mustang is just a base for tuning and catalogue parts.
Janusha 2 years ago
@Janusha best thing about the Mustang is blue collar motorheads can afford and modify the crap out of it, thats what American Hot Rodding is all about.
NedacFilms 2 years ago
I know. And if a Mustang is what you want. nothing else will do. Like a Harley... its a whole culture isnt it. Try telling a Harley man that Honda is better and he will kick your arse. I totally understand all that stuff and we dont have it in europe. There is much less modifying on an affordable level. Its just when americans put 1000 hp into a Mustang and think that makes it a Ferrari contender that it goes bad. Every tuneshop in USA cant change the fact that a Mustang is a Mustang.
Janusha 2 years ago
@Janusha I'm a huge fan of road racing events like KONI Challenge, the World Challenge, the American Iron series and the Camaro-Mustang Challenge... where Mustang competes with BMW and Porsche (KONI Challenge series) and does damn well. Any Mustang owner that thinks his 1000hp Cobra is in the same catagory as a Ferrari is simply an idiot. Completely different market. The Mustang is still a great car, the SVT Cobra is even better, its just some of the owners-drivers that are the pieces of shit.
NedacFilms 2 years ago
the Mustang is an icon. Its its own culture. Like a Harley. What can you compare to a Harley ? Its old fashion and barnyard engineered on purpose. There is something honest and sincere about a man, his wrench, axle grease and the open road. The whole american dream thing. (by the way.. I cant believe they dont revive the old Cobra) I dont know if a Mustang can be compared to anything else really. The Mustang on its own isnt a great car. Its only a base for home improvements.
Janusha 2 years ago
You can compare a harley to triumph in some aspects.
vhghe 2 years ago
@Janusha where did Ford state this?
NedacFilms 2 years ago
bad gt500 drive
q8mj12 2 years ago 11
No driver of GT500 don't race enough..short shift into 2nd and rolled over on the motor.
MaxwellReviresco 2 years ago
Hahaaaa C63 don't play no games
Domman56 2 years ago 7
@Domman56 The Mustang was, watch part 2 and part 3... The Stang walks the C63
SN95Project 2 years ago
Yeah but when you factor in the fact that the Ford had alll those mods to it and still only pulled that much, that means if the mercedes had the same mods it woulda pulled on the GT500 easy
Domman56 2 years ago
@Domman56 all what mods? a filter, mufflers and computer adjustment? There isn't even any real bolt-ons yet.... LOL!!!! What does that Benz cost anyway? For the price, it should be killing the Mustang, not the other way around.
NedacFilms 2 years ago 4
that's a dumb statement they both cost around 70 grand new
Domman56 2 years ago
@Domman56 not a statement, a question (don't you see the question mark) and actually I just googled it and the AMG is around $20,000 more than the GT500, and $70k was not the right price for either... also, we are talking GT500, not the Super Snake pricing. The Mustang is cheaper priced, a cheaper build and lower tech... Anyway, I watched all three of these videos, and the Mustang won all three. Watch the other 2 races. The AMG is a fantastic car, just not my style. I'm just more blue collar.
NedacFilms 2 years ago
Dude, that was a truly stupid statement on your behalf. The mustang costs 50,000 with all options and mercedes benz costs around 60,000 with all options.
vhghe 2 years ago
@NedacFilms
You have just won one free internet with that comment haha.
You know because a K&N air filter adds 100 horsepower, its a major mod like Domman56 said. (sarcasm alert lol)
xZZxTakedown 2 years ago
how is a K&N filter and a magnaflow exhaust a huge upgrade? It would only add about 10hp or so max.
vhghe 2 years ago
a tune, computer tuning is good for another 50 HP with these mods on either of these cars
Domman56 2 years ago
@vhghe
I am a huge Benz fan, and I am going to call you ignorant.
sleeksilver 1 year ago
@Domman56 Lol ur retarded.
The GT500 won
bulldog190 1 year ago
@Domman56 That's only because, the 'Stang have TERRIBLE traction on takeoff!
quessbee123 1 year ago
@Domman56 thats why the gt500 passed it
kirk0respite 1 year ago