@jakethegimp2 You're onto it. Be aware of it being for art's sake BEFORE starting though. A lot of pissed of Puerto-ricans are going to be wanting an explanation and you fumbling about trying to think up an excuse won't please them.
hi i just discovered russolo and the intonarumori. can anyone tell me how it works on a basic level? i can see theres some sort of percussive instrument on it and when u spin the lever it hits the head of the percussive instrument at a very fast pace n the faster it goes the more smooth the sound is thereby making it sound like one continuous note
@rawfflecakes As far as I know, all of them are made to use strings, not any machine-like action. The string on the inside of the box is connected to the drumhead at the bottom of the horn, so that vibrations in the string will pull on the head and transfer the vibrations. The string is activated by a gear spinning against it. The gear profile and string material determine the sound. The gear could be replaced with a hairy wheel, and grab the string like a bow.
@katums141 Well a synthesiser is just a wave generator or a number of generators that can be linked to produce differant sounds. These guys are changing the pitch of that noise to synthesise sounds, so so so so BITE ME!!!
@DarkMedievalTimes1 The purpose of the synthesiser is to take an existing sound and alter it's tonality or timbre thereby creating a new sound that can then be used in music. This is a musical instrument that does no such thing.... Yes it's pitch can be changed but so can the pitch of a flute or a guitar and they aren't synthesisers either.... There's a pattern here you should probably follow it before you go picking fights with musical graduates with degrees on the topic. Go bite yourself.
@katums141 A synthesiser does not take an existing sound and alter it!! A synthesiser is a wave generator by which differant types of sound waves can be added together and manipulated using differant tpes of filters and tonal alteration effects to REPLICATE real instruments or sounds existing in the real world, or it could be just one wave which is altered by the same means of synthesis.You must be getting this confused with a sampler, lol
@katums141 If anything you would have to agree that these primitive instruments such as the Intonarumori and the Theremin were precursors to synthisisers....
@DarkMedievalTimes1 Intonarumori don't replicate the sound of anything... Face it, it's just an instrument.. It's not used to alter anything, it makes it's own distinct sound, and if you disagree with me there then you should probably get a better education.
@katums141 I never said it replicated anything, although dometimes it does come close to re-producing some fundamental harmonics of cello and viola sounds.Maybe it would help if you cleaned your ears out. I'd say you just hold a degree in bullshit and propelling your own self importance of your own hot air.Where did you get your degree, in a cornflakes box?I made an innocent observation to begin with and you turn it into a fucking pissing match...
como funciona este intrumento claramente hay una mecanismo manual pero como funciona ? me imagino una especie de esmeril que al girar la palanca gira a mayor velocidad y es friccionado cona alo una puo o que se yo no lose, me gustaria ver su interior jeje.
Thank you so much for posting this! Have been reading about this in Thom Holmes' book and it's great to get to hear some of the things he's talking about.
@rumpranger65 Really have to disagree with that. Minimalism is so, so bland and uninteresting. At least this has substance. But to be honest, it probably serves most as more of a catalyst for thought, rather than a source of audible pleasure.
Oddly enough blandness is actually the point of a lot of minimalism (though oddly enough i find a lot of it interesting for some unknown reason). A lot of it is based on much theoretical nonsense having to do with the meaning of what constitutes and art object, and to the average art viewer that is neither very interesting nor do they even know about it. I agree, this work is much better.
@crazydharma I know what they were trying to do. The fact that that is all they were trying to do, shock people, makes it rather trivial. We don't call something great for being purposely not great.
As for minimalism, the aesthetics of it are not deep at all. It's the same post-modern superficial motive of "shocking" or "pushing boundaries" when all it accomplishes is the trivialization of anything shocking. Most (though not all) could be less concerned with the form of beauty.
I didn't say that was all they were trying to do. There was a deeper side to Futurism (though not very deep, and sadly tied to fascism) having to do with the championing the modern age. What I at least should've said was that by definition the Avant-Garde was on the cutting edge, trying to do things that were experimental in some way, and the shock came with doing things new and different. Mozart was avant-garde at his time.
The point of Minimalism was that art should be an object and nothing more than an object and I agree that's not that interesting an idea ultimately, although it was revolutionary for the time that minimal art didn't communicate anything at all (despite the theory behind it) and its silence was something new in art . The later post-minimalist and process stuff is really interesting in my view, like works by Martin Puryear, early Richard Serra, later Sol Lewitt, Lee Bontecou, and Eva Hesse
I would agree that it's not magnificent, but you are missing the point. What made art 'avant-garde' in the 20th century, was that it was shocking to those that would have experienced it for the first time. It was like a psychological experiment, pushing the boundaries of what was acceptable, and often to get reactions like yours, in order to create something new. So in a way, as with much other 'avant-garde' art, by making fun of it you are doing exactly what the artist wants you to do.
@crazydharma People who opposed this sort of thing are generally conservative folk who somehow think that music has to follow a set structure or be composed of some appreciable sound.
The problem with their thinking is that it's flawed in the sense of art itself having no boundaries to how it is to be executed and/or presented. With the age of these movements, it is hard for a conservative person to refute it easily for it is often as old or older than the thinker themselves.
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Hmmm, at least they are honest enough to call it noise and not pass it off as music, although the applause at the end makes me worry that there could be encore coming all too soon.
@jakethegimp2 You're onto it. Be aware of it being for art's sake BEFORE starting though. A lot of pissed of Puerto-ricans are going to be wanting an explanation and you fumbling about trying to think up an excuse won't please them.
MorkaGraven 3 months ago
love the sound
videomdnp 3 months ago
Magnificent
thisisstevet 5 months ago
Consider me a FUTURIST NOW !!!!!
Bendertoo 8 months ago
hi i just discovered russolo and the intonarumori. can anyone tell me how it works on a basic level? i can see theres some sort of percussive instrument on it and when u spin the lever it hits the head of the percussive instrument at a very fast pace n the faster it goes the more smooth the sound is thereby making it sound like one continuous note
rawfflecakes 1 year ago
@rawfflecakes As far as I know, all of them are made to use strings, not any machine-like action. The string on the inside of the box is connected to the drumhead at the bottom of the horn, so that vibrations in the string will pull on the head and transfer the vibrations. The string is activated by a gear spinning against it. The gear profile and string material determine the sound. The gear could be replaced with a hairy wheel, and grab the string like a bow.
LokiClock 8 months ago
Great experiments!
Gabzau 1 year ago
I'm such a noise elitist that I only listen to Luigi Russolo's early stuff *smugface*
ChrisGnosis 1 year ago
That is really cool. The first synthesiser basically...
DarkMedievalTimes1 1 year ago
@DarkMedievalTimes1 no not at all.
TheDivineAberration 1 year ago
@DarkMedievalTimes1 So wrong... so so so so wrong.... You're so wrong it hurts...
katums141 1 year ago
@katums141 Well a synthesiser is just a wave generator or a number of generators that can be linked to produce differant sounds. These guys are changing the pitch of that noise to synthesise sounds, so so so so BITE ME!!!
DarkMedievalTimes1 1 year ago
@DarkMedievalTimes1 The purpose of the synthesiser is to take an existing sound and alter it's tonality or timbre thereby creating a new sound that can then be used in music. This is a musical instrument that does no such thing.... Yes it's pitch can be changed but so can the pitch of a flute or a guitar and they aren't synthesisers either.... There's a pattern here you should probably follow it before you go picking fights with musical graduates with degrees on the topic. Go bite yourself.
katums141 1 year ago
@katums141 A synthesiser does not take an existing sound and alter it!! A synthesiser is a wave generator by which differant types of sound waves can be added together and manipulated using differant tpes of filters and tonal alteration effects to REPLICATE real instruments or sounds existing in the real world, or it could be just one wave which is altered by the same means of synthesis.You must be getting this confused with a sampler, lol
DarkMedievalTimes1 1 year ago
@katums141 If anything you would have to agree that these primitive instruments such as the Intonarumori and the Theremin were precursors to synthisisers....
DarkMedievalTimes1 1 year ago
@DarkMedievalTimes1 Intonarumori don't replicate the sound of anything... Face it, it's just an instrument.. It's not used to alter anything, it makes it's own distinct sound, and if you disagree with me there then you should probably get a better education.
katums141 1 year ago
@katums141 I never said it replicated anything, although dometimes it does come close to re-producing some fundamental harmonics of cello and viola sounds.Maybe it would help if you cleaned your ears out. I'd say you just hold a degree in bullshit and propelling your own self importance of your own hot air.Where did you get your degree, in a cornflakes box?I made an innocent observation to begin with and you turn it into a fucking pissing match...
DarkMedievalTimes1 1 year ago
@DarkMedievalTimes1 I'm offering debate, and you're having a tantrum... I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree
katums141 1 year ago
I want to hang out with this guy and get out of my own head for a few minutes. Amazing.
Jaken213 1 year ago
it sounds like a robot singing lol which is cool :)
RealEros1 1 year ago
Awesome!
medanzig 1 year ago
como funciona este intrumento claramente hay una mecanismo manual pero como funciona ? me imagino una especie de esmeril que al girar la palanca gira a mayor velocidad y es friccionado cona alo una puo o que se yo no lose, me gustaria ver su interior jeje.
taufla20 1 year ago
Where can I buy one of these?
SunnOrion 1 year ago 9
:) odd weird whoooah weird odd :)
Cioara8 1 year ago
i prefer 50 cent
lol joking
Unbannable 2 years ago
I wouldn't say it's all about shocking.
To me, it's more about coloring the soundscape.
Creating compositional rules so that, with conscious design, the everyday sounds make one big ecstatic piece of music.
Thurcke 2 years ago 2
Thank you so much for posting this! Have been reading about this in Thom Holmes' book and it's great to get to hear some of the things he's talking about.
UpstagedRagdoll 2 years ago
it heard like Rock'n Road music!
AndreasYu1 2 years ago
this is brilliant!
kranglekrapyl 2 years ago
scary futurists.
jigendioskeee 2 years ago
it's great, it was invented by a Homo sapien. I don't give a shit about any sort of phlegm from the mouth of history. Inventions are cool.
jigendioskeee 2 years ago
So avant-garde! So artistic! So blah blah shut up!
Odd, interesting, and fun...but magnificent art? No, get real. Even minimalism is better than this.
rumpranger65 2 years ago
@rumpranger65 Really have to disagree with that. Minimalism is so, so bland and uninteresting. At least this has substance. But to be honest, it probably serves most as more of a catalyst for thought, rather than a source of audible pleasure.
TaharuReitan 2 years ago
Oddly enough blandness is actually the point of a lot of minimalism (though oddly enough i find a lot of it interesting for some unknown reason). A lot of it is based on much theoretical nonsense having to do with the meaning of what constitutes and art object, and to the average art viewer that is neither very interesting nor do they even know about it. I agree, this work is much better.
crazydharma 2 years ago
@crazydharma I know what they were trying to do. The fact that that is all they were trying to do, shock people, makes it rather trivial. We don't call something great for being purposely not great.
As for minimalism, the aesthetics of it are not deep at all. It's the same post-modern superficial motive of "shocking" or "pushing boundaries" when all it accomplishes is the trivialization of anything shocking. Most (though not all) could be less concerned with the form of beauty.
rumpranger65 2 years ago
I didn't say that was all they were trying to do. There was a deeper side to Futurism (though not very deep, and sadly tied to fascism) having to do with the championing the modern age. What I at least should've said was that by definition the Avant-Garde was on the cutting edge, trying to do things that were experimental in some way, and the shock came with doing things new and different. Mozart was avant-garde at his time.
crazydharma 2 years ago
The point of Minimalism was that art should be an object and nothing more than an object and I agree that's not that interesting an idea ultimately, although it was revolutionary for the time that minimal art didn't communicate anything at all (despite the theory behind it) and its silence was something new in art . The later post-minimalist and process stuff is really interesting in my view, like works by Martin Puryear, early Richard Serra, later Sol Lewitt, Lee Bontecou, and Eva Hesse
crazydharma 2 years ago
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crazydharma 2 years ago
I would agree that it's not magnificent, but you are missing the point. What made art 'avant-garde' in the 20th century, was that it was shocking to those that would have experienced it for the first time. It was like a psychological experiment, pushing the boundaries of what was acceptable, and often to get reactions like yours, in order to create something new. So in a way, as with much other 'avant-garde' art, by making fun of it you are doing exactly what the artist wants you to do.
crazydharma 2 years ago 17
@crazydharma People who opposed this sort of thing are generally conservative folk who somehow think that music has to follow a set structure or be composed of some appreciable sound.
The problem with their thinking is that it's flawed in the sense of art itself having no boundaries to how it is to be executed and/or presented. With the age of these movements, it is hard for a conservative person to refute it easily for it is often as old or older than the thinker themselves.
MorkaGraven 4 months ago
Noise is the most artistic form of music to date.
gali32731 2 years ago
wonderful!
deathmetalhell 2 years ago
Big performance... In facts a great storic performance... how can I find projects or internal photos of the Intonarumori?
On internet I can't found nothing..... sorry for my english....
renastro 2 years ago
Study the hsirtory and intent of Italian Futurism, and maybe you will understand enough to comment.
bigdaddy710002 2 years ago
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CMMarkH 2 years ago
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CMMarkH 2 years ago
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Hmmm, at least they are honest enough to call it noise and not pass it off as music, although the applause at the end makes me worry that there could be encore coming all too soon.
CMMarkH 2 years ago
What makes it any less music?
Lortagreb 2 years ago
There doesn't appear to be any musical skills required to create it.
CMMarkH 2 years ago
Musical skills? That's highly subjective man. What is musical skill, in your opinion?
Lortagreb 2 years ago