I have a new Lauri PT blade with a micro bevel. I read that those who tried removing the micro bevel, leaving it a real scandi grind, had micro chipping because of the 62HRc edge. Many went to a convex grind. My question is, is it better to first use a stone to get a zero grind edge and then honing with a strop to get the convex edge or can one just go with the sandpaper on a leather strop? What grit paper would you recomend for this? Thank you!
how do you keep the degree / angle when you are sharpening ? 15 degree ? 30 degree ? etc ?? Can you use Spyderco Sharp Maker tool for your Bravo One ?
I think I dulled my bark river really bad cause I can't get an edge on it. I will try what you said and hope it works. The knife didn't even come to me that sharp either. There are no nicks on it or anything... haven't used my knife in the field yet but I think I stropped it wrong and I might have applied too much compound as well.
I noticed that when you are sharpening, you are moveing the knife in the oppisite direction that you would make a cut. I know this is normal for stroping but is this a good idea for actual sharpening?
@nsw1535 Chances are you put too much paste/spray on your strop. If you put too much, you'll actually be grinding your edge rather than polishing it. That is not what you want to do. You don't even need to put a polishing compound on the strop. The strop's purpose is to polish the teeth off the edge.
nice video. when making a strop, I have regular leather, smooth on one side and rough on the other. which side should be up, touching the edge of the blade? thanks
Yup, very common to do just that. The mouse pad will add a little contour form to the profile of the edge. I have not found the need to use a mouse pad when I put the sandpapaer over the hone, but it is definitely an option for people.
So a convex edge needs to be sharpened on a soft surface that forms to the edge, but a V edge or Scandinavian edge with no angle at the edge can be sharpened on a soft or hard surface, correct? Wouldn't sharpening on a soft surface end up rounding off a V edge?
Eventually over time, if you free hand your sharpening, the V bevel will wear off anyways and eventually convex. That ain't a bad thing either. The shoulder at the top of the "V" will disappear and aid in cutting ease.
@888zzz Not necessarily, you can put a full height convex on a knife using stones exclusively, but it takes a decent amount of skill, and a lot of patience. That being said, freehand sharpening in general will leave you with a micro convex edge, even if you're trying to create a v-edge.
Sound like an awfully steep price for compounds. Did you check ingredients? I've been making my own knives as a hobby for about 5 yrs and have noticed that the prices for buffing compounds sold at hobbyist/collector shops are often marked-up 100% or more, when compared w/ those being sold at shops for pro knife makers. Similar ingredients & performance but radically different prices. Now, I only buy from pro shops and save tons on compounds, as well as other supplies. Great tutorial, though!
I find it very adequate, though I am uncertain if I would say "better". You have to realize that, while the edge is convex, it does not have an extreme radius, but rather a gradual one. I feel the leather, even glued to a block of wood, has just enough give to follow the contour effectively.
Thanks! I will have to give that a try. I was thinking about making some sandpaper honing strops and was trying to decide if i wanted leather or mousepad backing. The info is greatly appreciated :D
I also want to say that you can shave after sandpaper, sure, but the edge will still not hold as well. The little micro serrations from the sandpaper are unsupported and will dull much quicker.
I know the man personally that wrote that article. I talk to him several days a week, have had breakfast with him, even crashed at his place for a couple nights. I did learn from that article he wrote. That is why I can make the video that I did. :)
I know the man that wrote that article personally. I talk to him several times a week. Had breakfast a few times with him too. It is a good article. I believe I have already learned to sharpen a convex edge. :)
Leather stropping is not absolutely necessary? I would like to hear another viewpoint please on how you maintain a convex edge. Any viewpoint is welcome since this video is instructional.
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THE BARK RIVER BRAVO-1 forces YOU TO USE CONVEX SHARPENING.BECAUSE THEY ARE A VERY CONVEX GRIND.thats why i returned mine otherwise its a great knife.
I haven't sharpened my bravo 1 yet, but when I do I'll use my translucent Arkansas and a strop.
mesa401 2 months ago
I must be doing this incorrectly, I can't get my blade sharp at all
freerunnin100 9 months ago
Very steady firm left hand. Can see that you've been doing a lot of sharpening.
ronin35 10 months ago
I have a new Lauri PT blade with a micro bevel. I read that those who tried removing the micro bevel, leaving it a real scandi grind, had micro chipping because of the 62HRc edge. Many went to a convex grind. My question is, is it better to first use a stone to get a zero grind edge and then honing with a strop to get the convex edge or can one just go with the sandpaper on a leather strop? What grit paper would you recomend for this? Thank you!
captainpegs07 1 year ago
how do you keep the degree / angle when you are sharpening ? 15 degree ? 30 degree ? etc ?? Can you use Spyderco Sharp Maker tool for your Bravo One ?
urkingod 1 year ago
I think I dulled my bark river really bad cause I can't get an edge on it. I will try what you said and hope it works. The knife didn't even come to me that sharp either. There are no nicks on it or anything... haven't used my knife in the field yet but I think I stropped it wrong and I might have applied too much compound as well.
georgio941 1 year ago
Can you use the lansky Turn-Box Crock Stick Sharpener on a convex edge?
severzero 1 year ago
Very good video
albi131 1 year ago
I noticed that when you are sharpening, you are moveing the knife in the oppisite direction that you would make a cut. I know this is normal for stroping but is this a good idea for actual sharpening?
punyo4u 1 year ago
good vid
godstoneful 1 year ago
I am doing what you are doing with my strop, but It seems to dull my knife worse that what it was. Any suggestions?
nsw1535 1 year ago
@nsw1535 Chances are you put too much paste/spray on your strop. If you put too much, you'll actually be grinding your edge rather than polishing it. That is not what you want to do. You don't even need to put a polishing compound on the strop. The strop's purpose is to polish the teeth off the edge.
mauiboynokaoi 1 year ago
How much pressure do you use?
rc3mil 1 year ago
nice video. when making a strop, I have regular leather, smooth on one side and rough on the other. which side should be up, touching the edge of the blade? thanks
stevelk11 2 years ago
With the sand paper, I saw someone use a mousepad.
tallswede68 2 years ago
Yup, very common to do just that. The mouse pad will add a little contour form to the profile of the edge. I have not found the need to use a mouse pad when I put the sandpapaer over the hone, but it is definitely an option for people.
wyldediver 2 years ago
when you made the strop, did you put the backside up, or the smooth side?
billhornband 2 years ago
It is actually "suede" on both sides. The leather is nothing more than really cheap reinforced industrial drill press belt.
wyldediver 2 years ago
So a convex edge needs to be sharpened on a soft surface that forms to the edge, but a V edge or Scandinavian edge with no angle at the edge can be sharpened on a soft or hard surface, correct? Wouldn't sharpening on a soft surface end up rounding off a V edge?
888zzz 2 years ago 3
Eventually over time, if you free hand your sharpening, the V bevel will wear off anyways and eventually convex. That ain't a bad thing either. The shoulder at the top of the "V" will disappear and aid in cutting ease.
wyldediver 2 years ago
@888zzz Convex edges are by far the best and sharpest edges.
jeoofro69 1 year ago 2
@jeoofro69 I cannot at all disagree with that comment.
wyldediver 1 year ago
@jeoofro69 They are not the sharpest edges. The are the edges that stay sharp the longest.
corymclemore 1 year ago
@jeoofro69 They are not the sharpest edges. They are the edges that stay sharp the longest.
corymclemore 1 year ago
@888zzz Not necessarily, you can put a full height convex on a knife using stones exclusively, but it takes a decent amount of skill, and a lot of patience. That being said, freehand sharpening in general will leave you with a micro convex edge, even if you're trying to create a v-edge.
RebelWrestler45 5 months ago
Great video. Good information, concise, presented well. Thanks!
Oh, and GREAT knife. I'm a big fan of Bark River, though I don't own any yet.
icychap 2 years ago 2
Make sure you have plenty of money when you buy your first one. It will definitely not be your last my friend. :D
wyldediver 2 years ago
Thanks for the info. I'll try it out on my BRKT Journeyman.
kwarnisplayer 3 years ago
Sound like an awfully steep price for compounds. Did you check ingredients? I've been making my own knives as a hobby for about 5 yrs and have noticed that the prices for buffing compounds sold at hobbyist/collector shops are often marked-up 100% or more, when compared w/ those being sold at shops for pro knife makers. Similar ingredients & performance but radically different prices. Now, I only buy from pro shops and save tons on compounds, as well as other supplies. Great tutorial, though!
ritter89 3 years ago
Are all those Bark Rivers?
(Jealous)
familyphotoshoot 2 years ago
I find it very adequate, though I am uncertain if I would say "better". You have to realize that, while the edge is convex, it does not have an extreme radius, but rather a gradual one. I feel the leather, even glued to a block of wood, has just enough give to follow the contour effectively.
wyldediver 3 years ago
Thanks! I will have to give that a try. I was thinking about making some sandpaper honing strops and was trying to decide if i wanted leather or mousepad backing. The info is greatly appreciated :D
rksoon 3 years ago
Very good video. Do you find the leather backing to work better than a mousepad when honing with the sandpaper?
rksoon 3 years ago
I also want to say that you can shave after sandpaper, sure, but the edge will still not hold as well. The little micro serrations from the sandpaper are unsupported and will dull much quicker.
wyldediver 3 years ago
I know the man personally that wrote that article. I talk to him several days a week, have had breakfast with him, even crashed at his place for a couple nights. I did learn from that article he wrote. That is why I can make the video that I did. :)
wyldediver 3 years ago
I know the man that wrote that article personally. I talk to him several times a week. Had breakfast a few times with him too. It is a good article. I believe I have already learned to sharpen a convex edge. :)
wyldediver 3 years ago
Leather stropping is not absolutely necessary? I would like to hear another viewpoint please on how you maintain a convex edge. Any viewpoint is welcome since this video is instructional.
wyldediver 3 years ago
Excellent presentation, simple and straightforward. Thanks a lot.
Despierto 3 years ago
Great video!
chickenstripe 3 years ago
Man thats a pile of barkies you got there..nice real nice.
breathenfire 3 years ago
Very nice presentation...holding the strop in your hand is something I hadn't considered.
ragoligist 3 years ago
Very true. Sharpening a convex edge is much simpler and more forgiving than a bevel edge.
wyldediver 3 years ago
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THE BARK RIVER BRAVO-1 forces YOU TO USE CONVEX SHARPENING.BECAUSE THEY ARE A VERY CONVEX GRIND.thats why i returned mine otherwise its a great knife.
nodseveer 3 years ago