The only thing I hate is people trying to turn science into something it's not. Science was not created to disprove God, but some people go to it for that reason alone and it's sad. I know a lot of people, me being one, who believe in God but also know that science is right about most things as well. And I also know lots of atheist who know plenty about God and religion, some even more than actual believers, which is both interesting and confusing...sort of.
@lattask8er The word "science" literally means knowlege. A lot of religions make scientifically testable claims. Where science can falsify aspects of religion, it usually does. It can never completely disprove a religion, because religions are not falsifiable. Anything that's not falsifiable can never be rightfully claimed to be true.
@elatus True, I mean atheist do kind of have a good reason to bash us. I believe there is more than just philosophical/theological side to God. A lot of religions sometimes try to throw out the knowledge part of it, and I think that does tend to mess them up. I seek knowledge through God, some would probably say that's still foolish...but oh well.
@QBpcguy One could argue that since the concept of god is a man made one. Humans have been putting words in his/her mouth since the beginning of time.
I don't think it matters whether one is secular or not, and how it weighs on your intelligence. stupidity happens, regardless of upbringing. if you really want to fix the problem, then we should just kill all of humanity. nature can get along just fine without us mucking things up for the rest of this unfortunate planet.
I just looked up these Arabic star names,yet they are also refered to by Greek and Hebrew letters and numbers,When are they referred to by The Arab names and when are they using the Greek?
I used to be an atheist but I didn't switch to agnosticism because I suddenly considered the bible might not be fiction. I DID switch because atheism is the hypothesis that there is no god and that frankly doesn't seem like the kind of thing I should be concerned with/by.
@KoenZyxYssel I'm kind of the same way. I called myself atheist too but I think that mirrors the certainty found in most religions. I think if I had to define myself as anything, it'd be humanist. :)
@blindedby2monkeys Agnosticism and Gnosticism are different words from the same stem. Gnosticism is the certainty of there being no God, Agnosticism (take note of the negating A at the start of the word, as in apathy or asexual) is the uncertainty that there is no god. Atheism is not believing, and is a result of being Gnostic.
i would love to get stoned with him, dawkins, michio professer brian cox bill mahar and Christopher hitchens and seth rogan i reckon that would be an epic stonage night
Specifically, religious fundamentalism. Someone who is a religious fundamentalist cannot be a proper scientist because they have all the answers they need-- in their little holy book.
Science requires two things that fundamentalists lack-- the humility to admit that you don't know everything about the world and the curiosity to go find out about it.
@MelissiaBlackheart Unfortunately the doctrines within all monotheistic religious holy books all point towards the same fundamental constitution, it's only with the diligence of science, and free thought that one can discard the fakery and myths for which they portray.
I consider that by differentiating between two categories of religious piety, one more devoted to the traditions and beliefs than the other, your simply contrasting levels of ignorance, arrogance and fascist behavior. But I agree
Having faith doesn't necessarily make one averse to science. Science can easily be interpreted as the study of "god's work" and viewing the glory of the universe.
In a sense, if a person who believes that a single being created the universe (a hypothesis neither proven nor disproven at this point), there really should be no one that is closer to that creator being than the person who studies the universe--
-- because isn't it through studying an artist's work that you understand the artist?
Perhaps I just have a weird outlook on life. I'm skeptical of theism but also skeptical of atheism, because atheism is presuming that lack of evidence is proof of nonexistence. Neither one provides a logically sound answer to me...
You are approaching atheism as if it was a viewpoint of: "This is my theory that there is no deity, and this is why you should believe it too"
Atheism is the disbelief in the claims of deities. By being an atheist I am not making the claim that Jesus Allah etc DON'T EXIST. It is in fact theists that are making claims, and I reject those claims due to a lack of evidence. Hence Atheist. If I claim to have a Dragon you are not responsible for disproving it
Anyway, I believe in agnosticism, which is to say I have not seen the evidence that god does or does not exist, therefor I am not taking any position on the topic.
"Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable."
I am a skeptic at heart, which also means that just because I do not yet know something exists does not mean that it does not exist.
you forgot the part after that, "...because there is no evidence that there is one." I fail to see how that is unclear to you. As an atheist I do not claim absolute knowledge that there is no god but rather that the evidence of one is not available. Ask me again when scientists discover that peer-reviewed evidence of one and I would most likely change my position. Until then "atheist" is the only rational standpoint to take.
@C0n7ax Agnostic here, how do you rationalize existance without believing in some overriding force behind everything? And if that force is present is it more likely for it to be lifeless or the source of all life? I believe I can't understand matters that deal with the full scope of the universe since I am inside the universe. If there is no force, there is no existance. If there is no life no real complexity arises.
Even after thoroughly researching the subject, i.e., spending <30 sec. on google, I still can't find anything on Hamid. Could someone help a lazy man out?
The arabes invaded south of spain, which had always, always been inhabited by Europeans of one sort or another. Then they were kicked out in the reconquests.
Ghazali pioneered “methodic doubt” and “skepticism”, both of which plays a foundational roll in all the secular movements to come. He was also opposed by one of the greatest minds the Muslim world would produce, Ibn Rashid (Averroes). Both men were renowned polymaths in their day (accomplished in multiple fields of science, as apposed to the vast majority of present-day scholarship).
Small misconception - Even though they are called the "Arabic numerals", they were first recorded in India, and people then started using them in the Arab world. The correct term is the "Hindu-Arabic numerals", but since they were introduced to the west through the Arabs, that's why they are called "Arabic numerals", but Ancient Indians introduced it to the Arabs centuries earlier.
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@pchtermino1 Ok let me tel you that that was after Islam had came to it before Islam there was an absolute idiocy in the Arab world.
Islam is the one religion encouraging to think, you should look at the Quran and you would see between every sentence and the other for the people who think, for the people who learn for the people who are scientists.
@SinnFein4ever Sorry but you're using arabic numerals when you use 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ect. Why we don't say it much is because arabic numerals are our standerd and we don't need to say it.
@SinnFein4ever - I'm assuming your "elementary school" was actually home school? If not, you have a potencially good liability suit against your school for non-performance. Our numeric characters, are, in fact, Arabic. Sorry. Our planets are Roman - but the visible stars are also predominantly Arabic - as you would know if your A.D.D. hadn't kicked in before the first few seconds of the video.
Yes, the terms are Arabic but they were not invented or coined by Arabs. Algorithm and Algebra by Khwarazmi, and Alcohol by Zakaria Razi. Both of these scientists were Persians who were forced to write in Arabic.
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
@TennisAnnalyst Let us look at the example of Iran today. It is a theocracy, yet it has the fastest growing scientific output in the world. This is a clear-cut case that religiosity does not have to get in the way of science; in fact, many famous scientists throughout history were inspired by their respective holy books to experiment and conduct scientific studies.
@TennisAnnalyst Indeed, during and after Ghazali's death, scientific output only grew; it did not hinder. In spite of the Mongol invasion, scientific output from various parts of the former Caliphate was still present. In Iran, men like Tusi and Farisi continued to flourish while al-Andalus showed similar strengths until, again, war and invasion destroyed this growth.
@TennisAnnalyst This is a fallacious appeal to authority; Dr. Tyson is not an historian. You present a gross over generalization and simplification as to why the scientific progress in the Middle East suffered from major set backs. It was not because of the teaching of Ghazali, but rather from the Mongol invasion. The combination of genocide, destruction of libraries, and political chaos were the culprits.
does he even knows who is al Gazzali ? he wasn't a scientist and he never spoke about science. and if he did then tell me the name of the book that he said it in.
Al-Ghazali (Rah) NEVER said mathematics were from the devil. He PROMOTED mathematics and learning.
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The downfall of the Scientific advances of Muslim civilization was largely of 2 parts:
1) The rise of the Mongolian Empire, which destroyed much of Baghdad and the libraries there and killed around 10 million Muslims, making it the largest holocaust in history.
2) The European Taking over of Spain, where they burned over a million Arabic books and plagiarized many others.
Continued... This man is wrong again when he says that it is limited to the 300 year period.
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The actual period would probably be around 750 AD - 1200 OR 1250 AD. There were many notable Muslim scholars, scientists, engineers, mathematicians, doctors, etc. that were born in the 1100's.
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Muslim civilization later was largely dominated by Turkish governments (Seljuk Empire/Ottoman Empire). The Turks did not seem to put as much emphasis in to the sciences as previous Muslim civilizations did.
@insanic1 yes, they did take it back but destroyed all the evidence of the people who built it. In fact, i think they didnt take baths in spain... correct me if im wrong. No pun intended.
@xtremeownage2 I highly dispute that the mongol invasion is the biggest genocide in history.. But otherwise, valid points, I do not agree, but well spoken.
It seems that most people don't really get the true danger of the Creationist/I.D. agenda. This religious movement can freeze the western civilization in time like islam did with most of the islamic countries on the medieval period.
Creationist/I.D. will do its best to downgrade science and human progress because the illiterate and ignorant people are the easiest to convert.
Science is gaining ground, and religion finds itself hardpressed because it can no longer support itself on ignorance other then that ignorance it itself enforces, so it targets what science has yet to figure out and prove and put god there.
Religion is losing, and it knows it. What I fear, is desperate religion, over anything else.
@Andreazor "Religion is losing, and it knows it. What I fear, is desperate religion, over anything else."
Don't bet on it. People who believe in religion will beat their own children to death (spare the rod spoil the child) before giving up on their imaginary god.
@QuestionForAtheists They were brought into the world as a vital link in the chain of evolution, and they must die because there is not a single collection of atoms in the world that will last forever. I hope that they wouldn't have the sense of entitlement (seen so often in religious people today) to think that they are more important than the ground we walk on or the air we breathe.
A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
The collapse of Arab Enlightenment can also be traced back to the Mongol invasion and sacking of Baghdad. Which also killed the Muslim Caliphate. An acted that Islam has never recovered from. Baghdad was ruined and depopulated and became isolated due to fears of being sacked again.
@asherzklein Roman numerals uses combinations of letters from the Latin alphabet to signify values, the Arabic numerals are the ten digits (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9). They both exist but for his example he was talking about Arabic numerals. Both the set of numerals co-exist you fuckwit
Tyson is incorrect - Arabic Science continued until the 15th Century. The Chronology doesn't fit with his model. Al-Ghazali killed Philosophy, not science - Arabic Science continued after Al-Ghazali for 300 years.
That dude is awesome, though he should learn to take a breaht once in a while, he forgets his own words quite a lot of times which kinda ruin some of his sarcastic comments
@thescorpionking2020 Not necessarily. The formalism of an algorithm as we know it today was comprised by Turing in the 20th century. The concept of an algorithm yes indeed the concept (not the mathematical definition these days) was devised by them. Before folks such as Kleene, Church, Turing, and others were around, algorithms were nowhere near as formal as they are today. They were written more as 'to do lists' than formal axiomatic steps as we see them today in formal sciences.
@thescorpionking2020 Actually the origins of algebra traces back to the Babylonians long before the indians. But the word Algebra is based on the arabic word Al-Jabr.
Christians and Muslims are the pee wee hermans (yes, before AND during his infamous act) of the world. Not until child indoctrination is halted will adult education be truly effective. Religious child indoctrination is the root of all evil. Think about it.
@laminator100 you can't fight the product of thought with the product of thought. people could end up committing atrocities for your principle as well.
Neil overlooks the Mongols. They invaded in 1250-60 and did some serious damage to the Muslim ability to exist. For example: the Battle of Baghdad (1258), the Mongols sacked the city which for 500 years had been the center of Islamic power.
Western civilization is currently the leader in science and technology just as Islam was 700 years ago. However this fact is no guarantee that it will stay like this for ever. An objective look at history would suggest that sooner or later the torch would have to pass to another civilization. Hopefully, this new civilization would not follow the same skewed, political/economic policies of the West, which is causing a great deal of suffering and injustice in our world today..
Arabs who roamed around in the desert with camels had nothing else to do other than copulate with camels and afterwards lie looking up at the sky, giving them some stupid names.
Neanderthals and Arabs belong to the most primitive races and they invented stone tools and gave man numbers. Using stone tools they killed each other, and
raped their women. Thus militancy and terrorism also originated among those races which trait continues in African and Arabic societies even today.
@tonyfrancis21 Wow, yeah, you're right, and no white Western Christian ever murdered anyone for not obeying their holy book...*coughgeorgefuckmotheringtillercough*
East is looking to the West from that perspective and say "West fucked up the World" and they prefer to ignore the good things. Western world is not different than East and looking from the same perspective. They tend to ignore many things. However I criticize West not East because they are supposed to do these things as they have reformed their thinking, but as I said they could not finalize and still not value the knowledge as it should be and ignore many things, it looks very primitive.
I always admire the age of renaissance and reform in the west. It was a foundation of modern World. Without it western world would not be as strong as today. However, I still see the western world primitive from many aspects. They are still not able to look the world from the right perspective. For example, if they really value the knowledge of humanity, we should see many documentaries about the east, at least, their achievements. How many people know these facts that Neil talks about?
Every civilization added so many things to the world and most of them also took a lot of things. It is a common error of a western to think that civilizations start with west and end with west. Of course, all of us living in a world where the western world rule the world. However, there was times where East ruled the world. In fact, East ruled for a longer time and built many civilizations. We should overcome our inferiority complex to be able to understand each other better.
That's the sad point .... once the islamic world led the world intellectually. Star names, algebra, astrolabes - all came from the islamic world. What happened ? Al-Ghazali . The islamic world quickly declined. Now, the fundamentalist Xtians want to do the same in America. Be warned!
Am I missing something, or creationists are almost only in US? I've been living in Europe for all my life and I've never met anybody thinking that earth is 5,000 years old etc. Maybe there are some people who don't believe in human evolution, but they're old and poorly educated.
@Ev2989 Yeah I'm a Finn and it seems most religious people here still believe in Evolution. Granted, Finland is a fairly secularist nation anyway, but still.
@Ev2989 Southern Baptists seem to be the strongest group pushing creationism in the US. I grew up in the culture, and was a creationist (despite being scientifically minded) for a long long time as a result. I really don't understand why the hold is so strong here, but it is. People simply won't discuss evidence, they always push the discussion in the direction of beliefs and morality.
i dont know how many cultures there are in south africa. Give me whichever one you think has contributed the most because I knew about the middle east, asian, and western additions to knowledge, but nothing about anything from the southern half of africa.
In fact, I dont know what any culture in south america has added to world knowledge aside from a calender that may predict the end times lol
the comments are showing in the right order on the page for me.
You claimed all cuttures add knowledge to the world, I asked for knowledge south africa (any culture there) or even south america (any culture on the continent) have added to the worlds knowledge.
It would be nearly impossible for a culture of the past to be atheistic to anything because so little was known that few explanations could be given for anything
You were using the wrong word though if you meant only dealing with religi
If creationists want to disprove evolution, why do they behave like feces-flinging monkeys?
saguhh00 2 days ago
The only thing I hate is people trying to turn science into something it's not. Science was not created to disprove God, but some people go to it for that reason alone and it's sad. I know a lot of people, me being one, who believe in God but also know that science is right about most things as well. And I also know lots of atheist who know plenty about God and religion, some even more than actual believers, which is both interesting and confusing...sort of.
lattask8er 4 days ago
@lattask8er The word "science" literally means knowlege. A lot of religions make scientifically testable claims. Where science can falsify aspects of religion, it usually does. It can never completely disprove a religion, because religions are not falsifiable. Anything that's not falsifiable can never be rightfully claimed to be true.
elatus 12 hours ago
@elatus True, I mean atheist do kind of have a good reason to bash us. I believe there is more than just philosophical/theological side to God. A lot of religions sometimes try to throw out the knowledge part of it, and I think that does tend to mess them up. I seek knowledge through God, some would probably say that's still foolish...but oh well.
lattask8er 10 hours ago
People should stop putting words into God's mouth.
QBpcguy 6 days ago
@QBpcguy One could argue that since the concept of god is a man made one. Humans have been putting words in his/her mouth since the beginning of time.
Mrlaged 4 days ago
@Mrlaged Pretty much. It really is a magical word: state your opinion, insert "God", then the masses obey for centuries to come.
QBpcguy 4 days ago
"Big Bang Theory, you've got to be kidding"
God could just be objecting to that unfunny TV sitcom
Treblaine 1 week ago 3
@Treblaine Zing!
shrector123 1 week ago
vvvvv How is he not a great public speaker. He's amazing.....
EmirTheBosnian 1 week ago
great points, unfortunately he's not a very good public speaker
CareFreeWherever 2 weeks ago
That's so funny, Tyson trolling creationists by sending them off to see the exhibits on evolution first.
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I don't think it matters whether one is secular or not, and how it weighs on your intelligence. stupidity happens, regardless of upbringing. if you really want to fix the problem, then we should just kill all of humanity. nature can get along just fine without us mucking things up for the rest of this unfortunate planet.
Talancir 3 weeks ago
stache master tyson
g0tcadaver 3 weeks ago
Watch out guys, we're dealing with a badass over here.
ecuasxaz 3 weeks ago 2
"intelligent design is basically the a god of the gaps" perfectly put...
blindedby2monkeys 4 weeks ago
See how religion devastates the people into a swamp of shit? We need to address this problem.
xBlackEditionx 4 weeks ago 2
I just looked up these Arabic star names,yet they are also refered to by Greek and Hebrew letters and numbers,When are they referred to by The Arab names and when are they using the Greek?
laiosto 1 month ago
I used to be an atheist but I didn't switch to agnosticism because I suddenly considered the bible might not be fiction. I DID switch because atheism is the hypothesis that there is no god and that frankly doesn't seem like the kind of thing I should be concerned with/by.
KoenZyxYssel 1 month ago
@KoenZyxYssel I'm kind of the same way. I called myself atheist too but I think that mirrors the certainty found in most religions. I think if I had to define myself as anything, it'd be humanist. :)
ThePhantom135 1 month ago
@ThePhantom135 Atheism isn't certainty. That's gnosticism.
notessimodude 1 month ago
@notessimodude atheism IS certainty that there is no god, agnosticism is UNcertain if there is a god
blindedby2monkeys 3 weeks ago
@blindedby2monkeys Atheism is the belief in no God. Gnosticism is the CERTAINTY that there either is or isn't a God. Please research the words.
notessimodude 3 weeks ago
@notessimodude woah you need some pills and an education....okay honey? by :)
blindedby2monkeys 3 weeks ago
@blindedby2monkeys Says the guy who can't even spell "bye" correctly.
notessimodude 3 weeks ago
@notessimodude Says the gay that can't even spell "Gnosticism" correctly.
kay thancs bai...
blindedby2monkeys 3 weeks ago
@blindedby2monkeys Gnosticism is spelled correctly. You do real well at making yourself look stupid. Good work. Have a nice day. :)
notessimodude 3 weeks ago
@notessimodude all this time i thought this was about "(A)gnosticism" and not "gnosticism" so there you i smashed myself
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@notessimodude all this time i thought this was about "(A)gnosticism" and not "gnosticism" so there you i smashed myself
blindedby2monkeys 3 weeks ago
@blindedby2monkeys Agnosticism and Gnosticism are different words from the same stem. Gnosticism is the certainty of there being no God, Agnosticism (take note of the negating A at the start of the word, as in apathy or asexual) is the uncertainty that there is no god. Atheism is not believing, and is a result of being Gnostic.
CakertonHey 3 weeks ago
@KoenZyxYssel so you were an atheist without knowing what an atheist is, interesting.
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i would love to get stoned with him, dawkins, michio professer brian cox bill mahar and Christopher hitchens and seth rogan i reckon that would be an epic stonage night
J0nnyCArr 1 month ago
he makes me want to be a smarter human
HamBurglerMan 1 month ago
muslims r devil
Rdhot123 1 month ago
@Rdhot123 I think you missed the point, it's not Muslims, is religious ideology.
Nosajxe 1 month ago 2
@Nosajxe
Specifically, religious fundamentalism. Someone who is a religious fundamentalist cannot be a proper scientist because they have all the answers they need-- in their little holy book.
Science requires two things that fundamentalists lack-- the humility to admit that you don't know everything about the world and the curiosity to go find out about it.
MelissiaBlackheart 1 month ago
@MelissiaBlackheart Unfortunately the doctrines within all monotheistic religious holy books all point towards the same fundamental constitution, it's only with the diligence of science, and free thought that one can discard the fakery and myths for which they portray.
I consider that by differentiating between two categories of religious piety, one more devoted to the traditions and beliefs than the other, your simply contrasting levels of ignorance, arrogance and fascist behavior. But I agree
Nosajxe 1 month ago
@Nosajxe
Having faith doesn't necessarily make one averse to science. Science can easily be interpreted as the study of "god's work" and viewing the glory of the universe.
In a sense, if a person who believes that a single being created the universe (a hypothesis neither proven nor disproven at this point), there really should be no one that is closer to that creator being than the person who studies the universe--
MelissiaBlackheart 1 month ago
@MelissiaBlackheart
-- because isn't it through studying an artist's work that you understand the artist?
Perhaps I just have a weird outlook on life. I'm skeptical of theism but also skeptical of atheism, because atheism is presuming that lack of evidence is proof of nonexistence. Neither one provides a logically sound answer to me...
MelissiaBlackheart 1 month ago
@MelissiaBlackheart
You are approaching atheism as if it was a viewpoint of: "This is my theory that there is no deity, and this is why you should believe it too"
Atheism is the disbelief in the claims of deities. By being an atheist I am not making the claim that Jesus Allah etc DON'T EXIST. It is in fact theists that are making claims, and I reject those claims due to a lack of evidence. Hence Atheist. If I claim to have a Dragon you are not responsible for disproving it
C0n7ax 1 month ago
@C0n7ax
Atheism is usually defined as "god doesn't exist".
I
MelissiaBlackheart 1 month ago
@MelissiaBlackheart
Damn this thing for not having an edit function.
Anyway, I believe in agnosticism, which is to say I have not seen the evidence that god does or does not exist, therefor I am not taking any position on the topic.
MelissiaBlackheart 1 month ago
@MelissiaBlackheart
As a further reference, drawn from wikipedia:
"Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable."
I am a skeptic at heart, which also means that just because I do not yet know something exists does not mean that it does not exist.
MelissiaBlackheart 1 month ago
@MelissiaBlackheart
you forgot the part after that, "...because there is no evidence that there is one." I fail to see how that is unclear to you. As an atheist I do not claim absolute knowledge that there is no god but rather that the evidence of one is not available. Ask me again when scientists discover that peer-reviewed evidence of one and I would most likely change my position. Until then "atheist" is the only rational standpoint to take.
C0n7ax 1 month ago 23
@C0n7ax Agnostic here, how do you rationalize existance without believing in some overriding force behind everything? And if that force is present is it more likely for it to be lifeless or the source of all life? I believe I can't understand matters that deal with the full scope of the universe since I am inside the universe. If there is no force, there is no existance. If there is no life no real complexity arises.
KoenZyxYssel 1 month ago
@KoenZyxYssel We are the universe. We create our purpose.
jessydaytime 1 month ago
@MelissiaBlackheart Faith in what may I ask?
Nosajxe 1 month ago
Even after thoroughly researching the subject, i.e., spending <30 sec. on google, I still can't find anything on Hamid. Could someone help a lazy man out?
wesselbindt 1 month ago
@wesselbindt search for Al-Ghazalion wikipédia
Fularu 1 month ago
The arabes invaded south of spain, which had always, always been inhabited by Europeans of one sort or another. Then they were kicked out in the reconquests.
MrGlennatat 2 months ago
Ghazali pioneered “methodic doubt” and “skepticism”, both of which plays a foundational roll in all the secular movements to come. He was also opposed by one of the greatest minds the Muslim world would produce, Ibn Rashid (Averroes). Both men were renowned polymaths in their day (accomplished in multiple fields of science, as apposed to the vast majority of present-day scholarship).
Xzibillionaire 2 months ago
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Ghazali isnt the reason
Muslims would never ever agree and follow one Imam
the real reason is wars
11th and 12th centuries Crusades no need to talk about this now
13th century Tatars war who destreyed all east half of islamic states
50% of islamic sicence books and researchs were destreyed in Bagdad by Tatar
Muslims stopped Tatar march in Jerusalem otherwise they would destrey the 2nd half in eygpt
even with these war muslims sciences didnt stop for sure
Xzibillionaire 2 months ago
I want this guy to give me a lecture, big amount of passion
adrian5b 3 months ago
Small misconception - Even though they are called the "Arabic numerals", they were first recorded in India, and people then started using them in the Arab world. The correct term is the "Hindu-Arabic numerals", but since they were introduced to the west through the Arabs, that's why they are called "Arabic numerals", but Ancient Indians introduced it to the Arabs centuries earlier.
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tigersforchrist 3 months ago
Point, Tyson
bryanttillman 3 months ago
Its actually kind of sad. The Arab world was the leader in almost everything. When the muslim religion took hold the religion took them backwards.
Its now the 21st century how many years has it been since a peer reviewed theory or discovery has come from the middle east?
pchtermino1 3 months ago 21
@pchtermino1 I have never read anything so wrong in my life.
moman007 2 weeks ago
@pchtermino1 Ok let me tel you that that was after Islam had came to it before Islam there was an absolute idiocy in the Arab world.
Islam is the one religion encouraging to think, you should look at the Quran and you would see between every sentence and the other for the people who think, for the people who learn for the people who are scientists.
riyadhelalami 3 days ago
yea europeans believed maths was the devil's magic. LOL they didnt have a clue
heckler171 4 months ago
Even though the "BIg Bang Theory" was proposed by Georges Lemaître.
A catholic priest....
ApatheticOmniscience 4 months ago
The U.S.A. does not (and never has) use the phrase "Arabic numerals".
What it uses (and has traditionally used) is the phrase "Roman numerals".
"I" is 1, "II" is 2, "III" is 3, "IV" is 4, "V" is 5...ect.
The stars are primariy Greek and Roman also.
Polaris, Betelgeuse , Antares, Arcturus...ect.
We learned this stuff in elementary school.
SinnFein4ever 4 months ago
@SinnFein4ever Really? You got through elementary school without knowing that we use "Arabic numerals?"
robhoneycutt 4 months ago
@SinnFein4ever So...your point, sir?
AmateurEffects 4 months ago
@SinnFein4ever Sorry but you're using arabic numerals when you use 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ect. Why we don't say it much is because arabic numerals are our standerd and we don't need to say it.
kokofan50 4 months ago
@SinnFein4ever no it is arabic. ur just jealous of arabs.
TheAmazingamerica 4 months ago
@SinnFein4ever yea you also learned in elemetary school that the pilgrims loved the indians and they sat down and had a nice meal together.
heckler171 4 months ago
@SinnFein4ever arabic is 1 2 3 etc >.>
DamienPalianta 4 months ago
@SinnFein4ever - I'm assuming your "elementary school" was actually home school? If not, you have a potencially good liability suit against your school for non-performance. Our numeric characters, are, in fact, Arabic. Sorry. Our planets are Roman - but the visible stars are also predominantly Arabic - as you would know if your A.D.D. hadn't kicked in before the first few seconds of the video.
47f0 3 months ago
@SinnFein4ever But do you use the Roman numerals when you do math? No, you use the Arabic numerals.
And please, go on listing stars with Greek or Roman names. Then please start listing stars with Arabic names.
You'll find that the Arabic list is longer.
Squiglypig 3 months ago
Successful, troll is successful.
Blasthood 2 months ago
Yes, the terms are Arabic but they were not invented or coined by Arabs. Algorithm and Algebra by Khwarazmi, and Alcohol by Zakaria Razi. Both of these scientists were Persians who were forced to write in Arabic.
ignatei 4 months ago
I wish he was my dad. Michio was my uncle. Hawking was my grandad. Einstein was my Great grandad. And so on and so forth...
SephirothCrescent0ne 4 months ago 94
@SephirothCrescent0ne Einstein was a draft dodging, wife and kids leaving, spy, fraud, an inventor who works in the patent office? duh!
TheAmazingamerica 4 months ago
@SephirothCrescent0ne - Could I be your mum then?
chibiariel 2 months ago
@SephirothCrescent0ne or if they're all just your uncles. that might be the coolest thanksgiving ever :D
edwinshap1 2 months ago
@SephirothCrescent0ne what about sagan? :(
andyhmltn 2 months ago
@andyhmltn Hence the so on and so forth.
SephirothCrescent0ne 2 months ago
@SephirothCrescent0ne if it make you feel better, they are all cousins.
MrGlennatat 2 months ago
@SephirothCrescent0ne Those would be some extraordinary genes
Aldridge517 2 months ago
@SephirothCrescent0ne Daaaamn, you'd be such a boss.
TyphoRaame 1 month ago
@SephirothCrescent0ne
Wait, where does Sagan fit in?
SanRafaelSwell 1 month ago
@SephirothCrescent0ne it would be balanced with palin as your mom
blindedby2monkeys 1 month ago
@SephirothCrescent0ne So who would you want to marry? Marie Sklodowska-Curie? :)
Woolfieman 3 weeks ago
@SephirothCrescent0ne I concur, Carl Sagan would be my other uncle. >_<
KTHREE31 3 weeks ago
@SephirothCrescent0ne you do know einstein was a creationist\christian right?
PlushAnimationStudio 2 weeks ago
@PlushAnimationStudio "you do know einstein was a creationist/christian right?"
Quote from Einstein on March 24, 1954:
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
CynicalSkeptic1 2 weeks ago
@CynicalSkeptic1 I stand corrected.
PlushAnimationStudio 2 weeks ago
@PlushAnimationStudio Lulz?
raydredX 2 weeks ago
I hate when the top comment ruins the punchline.
SergeantBagel 4 months ago 3
@TennisAnnalyst Let us look at the example of Iran today. It is a theocracy, yet it has the fastest growing scientific output in the world. This is a clear-cut case that religiosity does not have to get in the way of science; in fact, many famous scientists throughout history were inspired by their respective holy books to experiment and conduct scientific studies.
Marduniya 5 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst Indeed, during and after Ghazali's death, scientific output only grew; it did not hinder. In spite of the Mongol invasion, scientific output from various parts of the former Caliphate was still present. In Iran, men like Tusi and Farisi continued to flourish while al-Andalus showed similar strengths until, again, war and invasion destroyed this growth.
Marduniya 5 months ago
@TennisAnnalyst This is a fallacious appeal to authority; Dr. Tyson is not an historian. You present a gross over generalization and simplification as to why the scientific progress in the Middle East suffered from major set backs. It was not because of the teaching of Ghazali, but rather from the Mongol invasion. The combination of genocide, destruction of libraries, and political chaos were the culprits.
Marduniya 5 months ago
It simplifies things a bit and doesn't take into account the Mongols, who really shut things down more than any one person.
BdrLenny 5 months ago
ISLAM: AD 800-1100.
The intellectual Center of the world was Baghdad.
Advances in Engineering, Biology, Medicine, Mathematics.
The 12th Century Man who Ruined ISLAM, BAGHDAD AND THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST: Imam Hamid al-Ghazali - AD 1058-1111.
The philosophy that mathematics is the work of the devil.
The entire intellectual foundation of the Muslim enterprise collapsed because of Imam Hamid al-Ghazali and it has never recovered since.
OttawaNow 5 months ago in playlist Obama, Keyes, DeGrasse Tyson, Louis Farrakhan, Rush Limbaugh 2
@OttawaNow If there was one person I'd like to take out with a time machine...
emikochan13 5 months ago
@OttawaNow "The entire intellectual foundation of the Muslim enterprise collapsed because of Imam Hamid al-Ghazali and it has never recovered since."
That is complete nonsense.
Marduniya 5 months ago
does he even knows who is al Gazzali ? he wasn't a scientist and he never spoke about science. and if he did then tell me the name of the book that he said it in.
braining1 5 months ago
This man is wrong!
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Al-Ghazali (Rah) NEVER said mathematics were from the devil. He PROMOTED mathematics and learning.
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The downfall of the Scientific advances of Muslim civilization was largely of 2 parts:
1) The rise of the Mongolian Empire, which destroyed much of Baghdad and the libraries there and killed around 10 million Muslims, making it the largest holocaust in history.
2) The European Taking over of Spain, where they burned over a million Arabic books and plagiarized many others.
xtremeownage2 5 months ago
Continued... This man is wrong again when he says that it is limited to the 300 year period.
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The actual period would probably be around 750 AD - 1200 OR 1250 AD. There were many notable Muslim scholars, scientists, engineers, mathematicians, doctors, etc. that were born in the 1100's.
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Muslim civilization later was largely dominated by Turkish governments (Seljuk Empire/Ottoman Empire). The Turks did not seem to put as much emphasis in to the sciences as previous Muslim civilizations did.
xtremeownage2 5 months ago
@xtremeownage2 one thing. europeans didnt take over spain they took it back
insanic1 5 months ago 40
@insanic1 isnt spain in europe?
SlugHatchet 4 months ago
@insanic1 yes, they did take it back but destroyed all the evidence of the people who built it. In fact, i think they didnt take baths in spain... correct me if im wrong. No pun intended.
RMO6701 3 weeks ago
@xtremeownage2 he explain why you're wrong here: Neil deGrasse Tyson: "Adventures of an Astrophysicist" [6/11]
mihaimoldo 5 months ago
@xtremeownage2 I highly dispute that the mongol invasion is the biggest genocide in history.. But otherwise, valid points, I do not agree, but well spoken.
Blargaha 4 months ago
We have to make sure it doesn't happen again.
kablamo9999 5 months ago
I love how the video still is a double facepalm
Quetzalcoatl3p14 5 months ago
Fly to the moon not into a building.
lightitupfool 6 months ago 3
Arabic numerals actually originated in India.
deathtoawkward 6 months ago
It seems that most people don't really get the true danger of the Creationist/I.D. agenda. This religious movement can freeze the western civilization in time like islam did with most of the islamic countries on the medieval period.
Creationist/I.D. will do its best to downgrade science and human progress because the illiterate and ignorant people are the easiest to convert.
ZZzzzzzWhat 6 months ago
I'm starting a campaign to get Tyson nominated as the 5th horseman. Anyone second?
etchkid 6 months ago 4
@etchkid third ;-) maybe Bart Ehrmann could be the sixth horseman?
doyoublush 6 months ago
@etchkid lmao who are the first 4?
5H4K490 5 months ago
Science is gaining ground, and religion finds itself hardpressed because it can no longer support itself on ignorance other then that ignorance it itself enforces, so it targets what science has yet to figure out and prove and put god there.
Religion is losing, and it knows it. What I fear, is desperate religion, over anything else.
Andreazor 6 months ago
@Andreazor "Religion is losing, and it knows it. What I fear, is desperate religion, over anything else."
Don't bet on it. People who believe in religion will beat their own children to death (spare the rod spoil the child) before giving up on their imaginary god.
youtube[dot]com / watch?v=wtYrLlccfKY
technatezin 6 months ago
@QuestionForAtheists They were brought into the world as a vital link in the chain of evolution, and they must die because there is not a single collection of atoms in the world that will last forever. I hope that they wouldn't have the sense of entitlement (seen so often in religious people today) to think that they are more important than the ground we walk on or the air we breathe.
OptimisticNihilistic 6 months ago
this guy is so misleading...
thinker6236 6 months ago
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A question for atheists. In a world where there's no proof of God's existence or of life after death; how will you explain to your children why you brought them into the world and why they should die?
QuestionForAtheists 6 months ago
The collapse of Arab Enlightenment can also be traced back to the Mongol invasion and sacking of Baghdad. Which also killed the Muslim Caliphate. An acted that Islam has never recovered from. Baghdad was ruined and depopulated and became isolated due to fears of being sacked again.
hank1972 6 months ago
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ArtistryofDebauchery 6 months ago
retard rag head the roman numerals are Roman not arabic hence Roman numerals dumb ass
asherzklein 6 months ago
@asherzklein Roman numerals uses combinations of letters from the Latin alphabet to signify values, the Arabic numerals are the ten digits (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9). They both exist but for his example he was talking about Arabic numerals. Both the set of numerals co-exist you fuckwit
dawvvawevwev 6 months ago
@asherzklein he's black and from the bronx you idiot.
and he's not talking about Roman numerals, 0123456789 are Arabic Numerals you fucking dolt.
SuperColossal33 6 months ago
Tyson is incorrect - Arabic Science continued until the 15th Century. The Chronology doesn't fit with his model. Al-Ghazali killed Philosophy, not science - Arabic Science continued after Al-Ghazali for 300 years.
Klingschor 7 months ago
That dude is awesome, though he should learn to take a breaht once in a while, he forgets his own words quite a lot of times which kinda ruin some of his sarcastic comments
Kibate 8 months ago
@Kibate Well, I assume that it's a consequence of being overweight.
dragster178 8 months ago
algebra,algortihs,indian numerals they wer all invented by indian hindus nt by muslims faggots
thescorpionking2020 11 months ago
@thescorpionking2020 Not necessarily. The formalism of an algorithm as we know it today was comprised by Turing in the 20th century. The concept of an algorithm yes indeed the concept (not the mathematical definition these days) was devised by them. Before folks such as Kleene, Church, Turing, and others were around, algorithms were nowhere near as formal as they are today. They were written more as 'to do lists' than formal axiomatic steps as we see them today in formal sciences.
Entertainmentwf 10 months ago
@thescorpionking2020 Actually the origins of algebra traces back to the Babylonians long before the indians. But the word Algebra is based on the arabic word Al-Jabr.
ingeborgsjon 9 months ago
Christians and Muslims are the pee wee hermans (yes, before AND during his infamous act) of the world. Not until child indoctrination is halted will adult education be truly effective. Religious child indoctrination is the root of all evil. Think about it.
laminator100 11 months ago 3
@laminator100 you can't fight the product of thought with the product of thought. people could end up committing atrocities for your principle as well.
Sveccha93 9 months ago
Neil overlooks the Mongols. They invaded in 1250-60 and did some serious damage to the Muslim ability to exist. For example: the Battle of Baghdad (1258), the Mongols sacked the city which for 500 years had been the center of Islamic power.
menthol5 1 year ago
fundamentalism killed one of the most beautiful cultures of illumination...... such a sad and common story
85mariapatricia 1 year ago
Arabic numerals... well, Indian numerals really!
nothingnesswithouten 1 year ago
Western civilization is currently the leader in science and technology just as Islam was 700 years ago. However this fact is no guarantee that it will stay like this for ever. An objective look at history would suggest that sooner or later the torch would have to pass to another civilization. Hopefully, this new civilization would not follow the same skewed, political/economic policies of the West, which is causing a great deal of suffering and injustice in our world today..
rnata86 1 year ago 3
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Arabs who roamed around in the desert with camels had nothing else to do other than copulate with camels and afterwards lie looking up at the sky, giving them some stupid names.
Neanderthals and Arabs belong to the most primitive races and they invented stone tools and gave man numbers. Using stone tools they killed each other, and
raped their women. Thus militancy and terrorism also originated among those races which trait continues in African and Arabic societies even today.
tonyfrancis21 1 year ago
@tonyfrancis21 Wow, yeah, you're right, and no white Western Christian ever murdered anyone for not obeying their holy book...*coughgeorgefuckmotheringtillercough*
Buddhabright 1 year ago
@tonyfrancis21 Wow that is the most racist shit I've heard all day. You don't get an award though. You should just be ashamed.
Dferd777 6 months ago
More like religious fanatics end civilization.
FeelOfFriction 1 year ago
@FeelOfFriction you mean there is a difference between Crationists and religious fanatics?
bobafetthotmail 1 year ago
that big bang theory billboard isn't even written in proper english...enough said lol
tommydatubes 1 year ago
East is looking to the West from that perspective and say "West fucked up the World" and they prefer to ignore the good things. Western world is not different than East and looking from the same perspective. They tend to ignore many things. However I criticize West not East because they are supposed to do these things as they have reformed their thinking, but as I said they could not finalize and still not value the knowledge as it should be and ignore many things, it looks very primitive.
salvano 1 year ago
I always admire the age of renaissance and reform in the west. It was a foundation of modern World. Without it western world would not be as strong as today. However, I still see the western world primitive from many aspects. They are still not able to look the world from the right perspective. For example, if they really value the knowledge of humanity, we should see many documentaries about the east, at least, their achievements. How many people know these facts that Neil talks about?
salvano 1 year ago
@salvano You are so right. The christian fundamentalists are the new Islamic fundamentalists. Its just so sad how history repeats itself sometimes...
CommanderC4 1 year ago
Every civilization added so many things to the world and most of them also took a lot of things. It is a common error of a western to think that civilizations start with west and end with west. Of course, all of us living in a world where the western world rule the world. However, there was times where East ruled the world. In fact, East ruled for a longer time and built many civilizations. We should overcome our inferiority complex to be able to understand each other better.
salvano 1 year ago
That's the sad point .... once the islamic world led the world intellectually. Star names, algebra, astrolabes - all came from the islamic world. What happened ? Al-Ghazali . The islamic world quickly declined. Now, the fundamentalist Xtians want to do the same in America. Be warned!
TheStringtheorysucks 1 year ago
This is hilarious
superduperjew 1 year ago
Am I missing something, or creationists are almost only in US? I've been living in Europe for all my life and I've never met anybody thinking that earth is 5,000 years old etc. Maybe there are some people who don't believe in human evolution, but they're old and poorly educated.
Ev2989 2 years ago
@Ev2989 Yeah I'm a Finn and it seems most religious people here still believe in Evolution. Granted, Finland is a fairly secularist nation anyway, but still.
Pohjantahti 1 year ago
@Ev2989 Southern Baptists seem to be the strongest group pushing creationism in the US. I grew up in the culture, and was a creationist (despite being scientifically minded) for a long long time as a result. I really don't understand why the hold is so strong here, but it is. People simply won't discuss evidence, they always push the discussion in the direction of beliefs and morality.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
'Introducing Islam's 12th century Kent Hovind - Hamid Al-Ghazali .'
I spit out the coke, bursting in laughter when i read that name hahah XD
great vid and great lesson
TheCrocoduck 2 years ago
"I send them down to the hall of Human Origins and they never come back!" LOL
AfarWalker205 2 years ago 88
It's funny...all you argueing completely missed Mr. Tyson's point.
GoSuMonSteR 2 years ago
Is stupid!
"Islamic scientists were the best in the world" :D)))) Haaaaa!!!
Atheist propaganda!
See my movie!
"Why do people laugh at Atheists (part 01)"
Arabs have an important role in science but do not overdo
VyckRo 2 years ago
It's true that sufism destroyed the ummah.
faro0485 2 years ago
Not in Bizantin world
VyckRo 2 years ago
Arabs have an important role in science yet Islam having a role is laughable?
faro0485 2 years ago
Oriental Christianity and Bizantin World have an important role in science, and culture.
VyckRo 2 years ago
Yes it does. Do you know of the other cultures that have an important role in seeking knowledge?
faro0485 2 years ago
all cultures have a role in seeking knowledge! This does not exclude, Christianity or Islam because they are religions.
VyckRo 2 years ago
And why do all cultures have a role in seeking knowledge? Why would it not exclude christianity or islam?
faro0485 2 years ago
what is south africas?
waltermh111 2 years ago
where?
VyckRo 2 years ago
i dont know how many cultures there are in south africa. Give me whichever one you think has contributed the most because I knew about the middle east, asian, and western additions to knowledge, but nothing about anything from the southern half of africa.
In fact, I dont know what any culture in south america has added to world knowledge aside from a calender that may predict the end times lol
waltermh111 2 years ago
about what that comment you talk?
VyckRo 2 years ago
the comments are showing in the right order on the page for me.
You claimed all cuttures add knowledge to the world, I asked for knowledge south africa (any culture there) or even south america (any culture on the continent) have added to the worlds knowledge.
Just dont like absolute statements.
waltermh111 2 years ago
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I do not know?
Nelson Mandela? :),maybe Nadine Gordimer and J. M. Coetzee.
maybe, what you say, is an argument for Christian culture.
Do you Know any society founded on atheism? :-)
VyckRo 2 years ago
It would be nearly impossible for a culture of the past to be atheistic to anything because so little was known that few explanations could be given for anything
You were using the wrong word though if you meant only dealing with religi