140 grams of hydrogen inside 20 kilos fuel cell ... hmmm ... does not make much sense. I wonder how much is efficiency of that fuel cell? more then 50 percent?
@Tmaker197812 The weight of the fuel cell is irrelevant to the efficiency formula except for weighing down the vehicle. When hydrogen is passed through the fuel cell, it is turned into water vapor and release electricity in the process. It is analogue of feeding gasoline into a generator to get electricity. The ratio of weight of fuel vs. the weight of the generator is irrelevant to efficiency.
@cplai I know that. These are two different questions I am asking ))). I want to say that energy per kg of fuel cell is too small because fuel cell contains only 140 grams of hydrogen - it's ridiculous. I need to know real efficiency of that fuel cell. 50, 60, 70 percent?
i like this idea. better than stupid lithium batteries. don't agree? just look at your laptop or cellphone batteries as they lose potency within a couple of charges.
@sweetgyy Don't agree. See the Tesla Roadster and in 6 months, the Model S. The Model S has an 8 year warranty on the battery and max range of 300 miles. Lithium-ion batteries don't lose charge within a couple charges. They lose charge after a couple hundred charges.
Hydrogen is extremely difficult to isolate in ENOUGH quantity. That makes it prohibitively expensive.
@HarveyGrass We don't won't that bike. You will have to pay DMV and insurance to ride it. Electric bicycle is what we need, leave the government out of the picture.
This is so awesome. Hydrogen is the future. No need for depenence on imported, or any, fossil fuels. Clean energy, zero pollution, and great acceleration to boot.
@shooterfreak99 Hydrogen Fuel Cell produces electricity using hydrogen gas as fuel. H & O are combined chemically to produce H2O water vapor plus electric energy. I think you are talking about Plasma engine which jettisons hydrogen atoms at extreme high speed. By Newton's 3rd Law of motion, that will propel a spaceship forward. A plasma engine probably is nuclear powered. Hydrogen is not the fuel, but only used as "projectiles". Despite the light weight atoms, the speed makes up the momentum.
@cplai I must be a retard but wouldnt it be better to use the actual same kind of desing as today's engines (say a propane-driven engine) and modify it to burn hydrogen instead of propane? It would result in an epic increase in performance than these bikes in the video as hydrogen burns with such an extreme heat that it could even outclass bikes burning regular fuel. (Also, motor oil could be a synthetic oil made of a crop or some shit :P)
@HUNDuffman BMW's hydrogen cars (Google the words "BMW hydrogen 7", on lease only in LA area) do exactly what you suggested. Hydrogen is used as fuel in their internal combustion engine fine tuned for different combustion characteristics. Most combustion engine designs are very energy wasteful. Even if the combustion is complete, most energy are wasted as heat after each controlled explosions inside the cylinders. Fuel cells are less wasteful.
@cplai well i think that its the vehicle itself that is wasteful. I mean you have a big fat PTO to spin that is heavy as shit and all that kind of stuff. Even bikes could be directly connected to a gearbox instead of a chain (which isnt heavy at all so its not a hell of a factor) so i think the car design needs to be improved, and a lot more aerodynamic designs need to be made and the bike is just good as it is
@HUNDuffman Hydrogen fuel has a very low energy content compared to say diesel fuel. It is clean, but it is not as powerful as you might think. Electric motors can be very powerful. Think diesel locomotives are actually big electric motors driven by a diesel powered on-board electric generator. They are powerful enough to pull long freight trains. I don't have actual data, but I would bet this bike is better off stay electric with a hydrogen fuel cell than using a hydrogen combustion engine.
@HUNDuffman I wonder if that "feel" was audio feedback. if the throttle were tied to a synthesizer that made matching engine noises, the perception might have been different. It is something the electric bikes makers should seriously consider.
Stick to manual push bikes making sure theres no electronic aids because the Crown desires the World's push bikers to be lawed to electric bikes so they can be forced to need licensing under their 'Code and Rule' system. Don't let them do away with push bikes. Notice how they use the word vehicle which is a corporate term to control you under
Maybe parts of the world could adapt more quickly to H powered bikes than to H powered cars given the diferrence in the nescessary size of infrastrutures.
@xotimox9 Actually, I think it is the opposite. Building an infrastructure is a huge capital investment. In order to amortize the fixed cost quickly, you would need fewer centralized depots and a huge consumption to break even. So hydrogen powered buses and locomotives would be the best application initially. Your city is doing it smart.
@PhantomOfPanton why not? Google "cost per mile" and read about the new Tesla electric sportscar. People estimates that it costs about 3 to 4 cents per miles for an electric sportscar. 1.5 cents for a much lighter bike is not unreasonable. Once you really consider alternative energy, gasoline really does not make sense.
@PhantomOfPanton Without hydrogen refilling station at every street corner, hydrogen fuel cell technology actually didn't take off for automobiles. Don't hold your breath for any hydrogen fuel cell car. But fuel cell technology makes progress in other areas. Google the words "Bloom Energy", it is a fuel cell technology using natural gas as fuel. The cell works with hydrogen too. The Electric Telsa is in production, but that car is just way too expensive because batteries are not cheap.
@xotimox9 There are two common ways to consume hydrogen power. Use fuel cell to convert into electricity which then drive a motor or use an internal combustion engine to use hydrogen like gasoline vapor. (BMW's prototype hydrogen cars are the combustion type.) I wonder which way the Palm Spring buses do it.
@lordofspeeds4321 It is not just a matter of accent. In places outside of the US, aluminum is spelled with an extra i. Aluminium is pronounced differently than aluminum.
Yes, Busettii Bikes have the good pedaling system so you can use it as a bike or pedal with the motor. I have one and it runs about 75--85 miles per charge but you can also pedal like a regular bike. Also, it really goes fast even in throttle mode. Check out busettii dot com if you need more info. ciao
@DancingET Are you referring to hydrogen hydrates? A friend of mine study gas hydrates when he was in grad school. Some big oil company offered him a job to extract gas hydrates in Alaska. He declined because he did not want to work in a frozen world.
@martinzopetazo The entire Hydrogen economy is about using the Hydrogen molecule as a clean energy storage medium. Using solar power to convert water to hydrogen and oxygen, you essentially store solar energy as chemical energy. When you burn Hydrogen, you release that energy and produce water as a by product. It is a storage cycle, starts with water and ends with water. Clean exchange in between. So hydrogen production must be clean or it defeats the original purpose.
@martinzopetazo What I meant is that if hydrogen is just an energy storage medium, then it does not matter whether it takes more energy to extract than to consume hydrogen or not as long as you use clean renewable energy. Likewise, every coal fired power plant actually burns more energy to generate the electricity it produces. There is always a loss. So it is silly to burn fossil fuel to produce hydrogen.
Pure natural hydrogen on earth does not exist, all the H2 on earth already reacted with other elements. Pure hydrogen can only be found in deep space as clouds, stars or gas giants.
@MrTyson5262 No. It is a fuel cell, not a battery. By definition, you need to refuel when it is depleted. It is a hydrogen cell cell, so you need hydrogen as a fuel. Hydrogen fuel cell has not taken off because hydrogen supply infrastructure is not in place yet. Google the terms "Essential Element Hydra mobile solar hydrogen fuel cells" to see some recent news.
I have a Mini 40 Mile Busettii bike and it runs 50-55 miles on one battery charge. I also tried my friends Vortex Mountain bike by Busettii. It ROCKS ! Can get up to 32 mph top speed, and on one charge that bike set the new record of 86 miles. Hope it becomes a big hit. In California many people like Busettii because they cost around $1700 but can go 50--86 miles on one charge depending on model. Maria in Cali
@cplai i'd just like to say that a large proportion of hydrogen is also produced unsustainably through hydrocarbon fuel cracking, all this solar stuff is done by the smaller companies.
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@hondamxer300 America is fat because people eat fast food shite for regular meals and abhor sweating for any reason. So many people also drive like blind 4000lb bats and terrorise cyclists, so cycle commuting is hard to sell.
Motorised bicycles and light motorcycles are excellent for saving fuel, saving costs, and often times, for cutting taxes/registration/licensing expenses! I've beat traffic jams before by riding a moped to work. People just stare out their windows in envy.
America needs to utilize empty space in the ocean and hot sunny deserts to harness solar power and start creating a sustainable hydrogen economy. Not a hydrogen economy where hydrogen is created by means of fossil fuels and dirty dirty carbon. so many jobs are in this new industry that are low skill jobs, perfect for plenty people working the coal and oil industry. hydrogen is usefull as fuck in so many ways. . . . .and so is weed :-)
You can get hydrogen by using solar panels and running the current into water so fossil fuels wouldn't need to be used. I have made hydrogen in this manner and it does work.
I have a great idea that will stop global warming and cure our current obesity epidemic, get this: a bike that you have to pedal! It's ingenious right? Sign me up for a freakin patent man.
why are we not seeing these things in nearby bike forecourts it seems they just want us to spend all are money are dirty expensive fuels so the big dogs can make some money, it aint fair and it aint right, i wish bike and similar products go main stream over the world quick time, and now B.P have had a big oil slick that it will urge us more quicker to moake that move to alternate fuel sources
@matroosjes There are several different methods, but electrolysis is the easiest and cleanest. Wiki it, you can do an experiment at home with a battery, some wires, zinc and copper and some salt. What the bike essentially does is reverse electrolysis, by gaining a potential difference (electric charge) by combining Hydrogen and Oxygen via a catalyst.
Don't you have to use fossil fuels to get the hydrogen for the filling stations? It's still bad for the environment, you just don't see it close to home....
@ChickenWingChampion While it is true that hydrogen can be produced from fossil fuel, but it is not the only way to produce hydrogen. Any clean power such as solar, wind, wave, geothermal power can be used to produce hydrogen cleanly. Google the terms "Essential Element Hydra mobile solar hydrogen fuel cells" to see some recent news just released few days ago.
yes you can make hydrogen from clean energy, but why conver that energy to electricity, to make hydrogen, to make water and get electricity? why dont just use straight up electricity that is in every place in every house allready, and save liek 30% loss in efficiency of making hydrogen and back to water to electricity?
@ChickenWingChampion Oh My GOD............ Please Research......!!? Until people are SOOOOooooo Much in the dark, and dont understand the tecknologi, So anyone can cheat you...YOU have to Research..............!!!
hmmm listen up inventors. recent development in nanotechnology has brought to my attention something called nanograss. this is like solar cells but much more powerful. You could use electrolysis (a process in which electricity splits atoms from its compounds) you could create hydrogen from water. There fore the fuel will be water (75% of the planet is covered in it) and when the waste product is made it will just evaporate into the sky. You can get your fuel from the tap. use this. Let me have 1
it works like this you have hydrogen in the car and then the car makes it to elcrtisety and drive 4 Electric moters on every wheel that runs the car :)
@AndrewKlilly Batteries have their own problems and limitations. You can refill a fuel cell quickly (assuming the refueling infrastructure is established). Recharging the batteries takes too long. e.g. drive a Tesla sport car from Seattle to LA. After about 3.5 hours of driving, you'd need to stop at the recharging station for 8 hours before continuing. A 18 hour trip becomes 48 hours. Capacity, recharging time, longevity, weight, cost, polluting manufacturing process etc. are problems.
@AndrewKlilly Until a breakthrough in battery technology, electric vehicle is still not good for long distance travel. Keep an eye on carbon nanotubes batteries. That may turn the table around.
@cplai This fuel idea isn't a damaging contributer to the Earth is it? just wondering, I would love to use this in operation work, its pretty quiet and it can last four hours cruising, I like this, can I add you to stay in touch about this beautifull machene?
THATS SO RETARDED!!! Everyone knows that hydrogen isn't even a real element, its a fake element developed by the nazis during WWII as a propaganda for hydrogen bombs.. Even Albert Einstein states in one of his works that is is impossible for an atom to have a molar mass of less than 1.49993 grams/mole. This is proof that hydrogen isn't real, and these bikes are actually powered by antimatter, however the government would never admit it because they make way too much money from this secret.
@cplai I am absolutely terrified that the cooperations and government will discover my true identity, however, I am willing to take that risk just to warn my fellow Americunts aboot this treachery.
Also nuclear power plants create zero greenhouse gasses and the electricity is really cheap to create. The up side is the waste can be converted in the future to clean power when nuclear fusion reactors are created (30-70years from now) that can then burn the nuclear waste and only create energy as a byproduct.
Water = 2 Parts Hydrogen 1 Part Oxygen you may be familiar with a process called electrolysis. Using Clean solar/wind/tidal/Water Damn or even Nuclear power to fuel this process you get hydrogen and oxygen. When the two a burnt, or used in a fuel cell process only water is created as a waste product. The reason I classify nuclear as a clean energy source is the sheer amount of power to waste ratio is so high its in comparison as if a coal plant only produced 100lb of CO2 emissions a year.
You are quite wrong. Hydrogen can also come from water. It would defeat the purpose of conserving Earth if you make hydrogen out of fossil fuel. Either clean hydrogen or no hydrogen at all. Fossil based hydrogen is simply stupid.
You are QUITE WRONG. Today's hydrogen fuel is made from natural gas, a fossil fuel, it would be easier to use gas....the pipe lines and stations are here already. My above answer implies hydrogen from fossil fuels would defeat the purpose of conserving the earth. How am I wrong??? My question is what non-fossil or non- nuclear energy source would you use to split water into oxygen and hydrogen? Fairy Dust? POOF! We 'magicaly' make hydrogen out of water???
Then i think we are in agreement. Getting hydrogen from fossil fuel is not clean. Same argument on electric cars that get energy from a coal-fired power plant. If these people cannot get clean hydrogen or electricity, simply use gas without going through two lossy conversions. Hydroelectric, wind power, and solar power can produce clean hydrogen.
@kdc43 electic is the answer on the long run. Humanity faces some major changes on the next 10 years, is not the power of the atom the most easy way to create huge amounts of cheap energy? The way we use the atom is just like the way children play...first we brake the things an after that we try to create better ones. For the guy that likes having gas on his bike to travel for long....come on dude :) First petrol car was driving only 10 miles... where do you want to go?
@adyloszonga I am building an electric bike now with a 500 watt/hour lithium battery and a 1000 watt hub motor. But the actual cost of nuclear power would be a lot higher if you included the mining, environmental, handling of the radioactive nuke waste. It would be cheaper to build wind and solar farms to make hydrogen to run vehicles
Water = 2 Parts Hydrogen 1 Part Oxygen you may be familiar with a process called electrolysis. Using Clean solar/wind/tidal/Water Damn or even Nuclear power to fuel this process you get hydrogen and oxygen. When the two a burnt, or used in a fuel cell process only water is created as a waste product.
@seniorortega I am building an electric bike now with a 500 watt/hour lithium battery and a 1000 watt hub motor. But the actual cost of nuclear power would be a lot higher if you included the mining, environmental, handling of the radioactive nuke waste. It would be cheaper to build wind and solar electrolysis farms to make hydrogen to run vehicles. I was talking about the CURRENT way we get hydrogen,from fossil fuels.
@kdc43 I agree there is no future for nuclear power. We need to invest as much as we can into fusion research. If humanity wants to breach the gap out of this 20th century hole we have stagnated into we need true innovation and inspiration. A single full load fusion reactor is estimated (based on current theory) to produce enough electricity to power 10% of the US grid. So we would need to build 15 power plants (5extra peek)to power the entire country and 200 to power the world. Viva La Fusion!
@kdc43 As much as I love the idea of fusion power I am not ignorant to the fact that it is 50-70 years away if that. Wind power is unreliable and solar power is too expensive and takes up way way to much space. Personally I am a proponent of tidal power which is reliable and extremely abundant (anywhere with ocean...) and cheap to build. Implementation is the issue and why investors are few.
@seniorortega So wind is unreliable,but you still can store it in a medium like hydrogen for base line use. Put solar plants in the deserts,no one lives there anyway or float them on ocean. It covers about 75% of the earth. I heard Fusion makes little on radioactive waste, so yea for Fusion. I think that New York harbor has what looks like modified wind turbines on the bottom so that the tidal water runs them,so yes to that. Also to wave power plants on isolated shores.
i'd rather have hyd. than gas, alot better for the enviornment and it's just cool. Even thought it's expansive it will replace gas son enouph, just you wait.
Im sure theres an inherent problem with carrying hydrogen aboard a vehicle? There was a vehicle they carried a lot of hydrogen once, The Hindenburg. I wouldnt want it between my legs
All the researches has shown that hydrogen did not cause the fire on the Hindenburg. The coating on the fabrics which made up the skin of the airship was the culprit. Of course, a hydrogen leak is dangerous for sure. When compared to gasoline, hydrogen is relatively safer. Hydrogen rises and dissipates quickly. Gasoline seeps into cracks and gaps and its fume is explosive. Yet, people live happily with gasoline, i.e. people can handle hydrogen safely too.
@Kingcammel Once well protected, there's no significant risk. Do you think that carrying 10 liters of gasoline between your legs is safer ? Let me remind you that gas is a much more energetic fuel for the same quantity ...
140 grams of hydrogen inside 20 kilos fuel cell ... hmmm ... does not make much sense. I wonder how much is efficiency of that fuel cell? more then 50 percent?
Tmaker197812 2 weeks ago
@Tmaker197812 The weight of the fuel cell is irrelevant to the efficiency formula except for weighing down the vehicle. When hydrogen is passed through the fuel cell, it is turned into water vapor and release electricity in the process. It is analogue of feeding gasoline into a generator to get electricity. The ratio of weight of fuel vs. the weight of the generator is irrelevant to efficiency.
cplai 2 weeks ago
@cplai I know that. These are two different questions I am asking ))). I want to say that energy per kg of fuel cell is too small because fuel cell contains only 140 grams of hydrogen - it's ridiculous. I need to know real efficiency of that fuel cell. 50, 60, 70 percent?
Tmaker197812 2 weeks ago
make it cheep help the kids the moms and dads the poor stop the wars
jjjjjjsungodjjjjj 1 month ago
i like this idea. better than stupid lithium batteries. don't agree? just look at your laptop or cellphone batteries as they lose potency within a couple of charges.
sweetgyy 1 month ago
@sweetgyy Don't agree. See the Tesla Roadster and in 6 months, the Model S. The Model S has an 8 year warranty on the battery and max range of 300 miles. Lithium-ion batteries don't lose charge within a couple charges. They lose charge after a couple hundred charges.
Hydrogen is extremely difficult to isolate in ENOUGH quantity. That makes it prohibitively expensive.
Ou8y2k2 2 weeks ago
It's ugly... very.
GuilhermeCosta1992 2 months ago
damm it i want 1
darkisato 2 months ago
5 years later STILL NOTHING.
HarveyGrass 3 months ago
@HarveyGrass We don't won't that bike. You will have to pay DMV and insurance to ride it. Electric bicycle is what we need, leave the government out of the picture.
DBJCobb 2 months ago in playlist Electric Bike
if it is superbike.. it'd be nice. anyway, nice.
thinkmanworld 3 months ago
crappy style as usual for new vehicles. Very good idea anyway.
mptrax 3 months ago
its 2011 still waiting...
DOTCurrency 3 months ago
I love this shit, THIS IS MY NEXT BIKE
vmorgun 4 months ago
Checkout our Lithium Ion powered bicycle, the FlyKly! The future is coming!
flyfkly 4 months ago
it's 2011...... still waiting....
Revelation2ten 4 months ago
i totally love it! great job keep working i will the first on buying this baby!
genial55matt 5 months ago
Excellent video. See my channel electric motor new design.
Ali2011mb 5 months ago
This is so awesome. Hydrogen is the future. No need for depenence on imported, or any, fossil fuels. Clean energy, zero pollution, and great acceleration to boot.
BTLfanIam 6 months ago
Fucking oil company's =(
ZergoSIE 6 months ago
Gravity is the most powerful force on the planet.One day it will generate all the electricity on Earth.
JohnLeePedimore 6 months ago
@JohnLeePedimore
LOLOLO!!!
How so?
ArtypNk 4 months ago
That is pure sex.
hipstarchild 6 months ago
me want, me cant afford, me live in california witch equals ILLEGAL
saltwateraquaruim 6 months ago
future transport is Push Bikes + EPO
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kidhuler 8 months ago
Can Hydrogen fuel cell motors be used like a rocket engine other than mechanically? Say a new spacecraft designed motor?
shooterfreak99 8 months ago
@shooterfreak99 Hydrogen Fuel Cell produces electricity using hydrogen gas as fuel. H & O are combined chemically to produce H2O water vapor plus electric energy. I think you are talking about Plasma engine which jettisons hydrogen atoms at extreme high speed. By Newton's 3rd Law of motion, that will propel a spaceship forward. A plasma engine probably is nuclear powered. Hydrogen is not the fuel, but only used as "projectiles". Despite the light weight atoms, the speed makes up the momentum.
cplai 8 months ago
@cplai I must be a retard but wouldnt it be better to use the actual same kind of desing as today's engines (say a propane-driven engine) and modify it to burn hydrogen instead of propane? It would result in an epic increase in performance than these bikes in the video as hydrogen burns with such an extreme heat that it could even outclass bikes burning regular fuel. (Also, motor oil could be a synthetic oil made of a crop or some shit :P)
HUNDuffman 8 months ago
@HUNDuffman BMW's hydrogen cars (Google the words "BMW hydrogen 7", on lease only in LA area) do exactly what you suggested. Hydrogen is used as fuel in their internal combustion engine fine tuned for different combustion characteristics. Most combustion engine designs are very energy wasteful. Even if the combustion is complete, most energy are wasted as heat after each controlled explosions inside the cylinders. Fuel cells are less wasteful.
cplai 8 months ago
@cplai well i think that its the vehicle itself that is wasteful. I mean you have a big fat PTO to spin that is heavy as shit and all that kind of stuff. Even bikes could be directly connected to a gearbox instead of a chain (which isnt heavy at all so its not a hell of a factor) so i think the car design needs to be improved, and a lot more aerodynamic designs need to be made and the bike is just good as it is
HUNDuffman 7 months ago
@HUNDuffman agree with you about the weight of the cars. Watch related topic at watch?v=J3SqGDZel68
cplai 7 months ago
@HUNDuffman Hydrogen fuel has a very low energy content compared to say diesel fuel. It is clean, but it is not as powerful as you might think. Electric motors can be very powerful. Think diesel locomotives are actually big electric motors driven by a diesel powered on-board electric generator. They are powerful enough to pull long freight trains. I don't have actual data, but I would bet this bike is better off stay electric with a hydrogen fuel cell than using a hydrogen combustion engine.
cplai 8 months ago
@cplai Combustion engine bikes have a certain feel to them :D I rode an electic atv and it was so lifeless...
HUNDuffman 8 months ago
@HUNDuffman I wonder if that "feel" was audio feedback. if the throttle were tied to a synthesizer that made matching engine noises, the perception might have been different. It is something the electric bikes makers should seriously consider.
cplai 8 months ago
Stick to manual push bikes making sure theres no electronic aids because the Crown desires the World's push bikers to be lawed to electric bikes so they can be forced to need licensing under their 'Code and Rule' system. Don't let them do away with push bikes. Notice how they use the word vehicle which is a corporate term to control you under
anunnaki2006 8 months ago
impressive
Dubconferencedotorg 9 months ago
i have hope for the earth afterall. now we need to work on overpopulation and food sources
mrbumblesquat 10 months ago
Maybe parts of the world could adapt more quickly to H powered bikes than to H powered cars given the diferrence in the nescessary size of infrastrutures.
xotimox9 10 months ago
@xotimox9 Actually, I think it is the opposite. Building an infrastructure is a huge capital investment. In order to amortize the fixed cost quickly, you would need fewer centralized depots and a huge consumption to break even. So hydrogen powered buses and locomotives would be the best application initially. Your city is doing it smart.
cplai 10 months ago
@cplai
Wait, 3 dollars for 4 hours of fuel, and it goes around 50 MPH...does that mean 200 miles for 3 dollars?
Sorry if my logic, or lack of logic, doesn't make any sense! XD
PhantomOfPanton 9 months ago
@PhantomOfPanton why not? Google "cost per mile" and read about the new Tesla electric sportscar. People estimates that it costs about 3 to 4 cents per miles for an electric sportscar. 1.5 cents for a much lighter bike is not unreasonable. Once you really consider alternative energy, gasoline really does not make sense.
cplai 9 months ago
@cplai
Thats insane! :D
Gasoline doesn't make sense, it is awful for the environment, awful for the wallet, and creates things as bad as war! (I'm not a tree hugger...yet!)
It has been a few years, when will this thing finally come out? Any news on a 2 seater model?
PhantomOfPanton 9 months ago
@PhantomOfPanton Without hydrogen refilling station at every street corner, hydrogen fuel cell technology actually didn't take off for automobiles. Don't hold your breath for any hydrogen fuel cell car. But fuel cell technology makes progress in other areas. Google the words "Bloom Energy", it is a fuel cell technology using natural gas as fuel. The cell works with hydrogen too. The Electric Telsa is in production, but that car is just way too expensive because batteries are not cheap.
cplai 9 months ago
Palm Spring, CA (USA) has three buses that run on hydrogen that is produced by a local windmill.
xotimox9 10 months ago
@xotimox9 There are two common ways to consume hydrogen power. Use fuel cell to convert into electricity which then drive a motor or use an internal combustion engine to use hydrogen like gasoline vapor. (BMW's prototype hydrogen cars are the combustion type.) I wonder which way the Palm Spring buses do it.
cplai 10 months ago
@cplai The online description indicates that they use a type of fuel cell.
xotimox9 10 months ago
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thedie2022 10 months ago
Work with me, manufacture this in India(cost will cut down), for the common men of Indians, this technology will fly,
indianspartacus 10 months ago
xD when he said aluminum with his accent i rofled
lordofspeeds4321 11 months ago
@lordofspeeds4321 It is not just a matter of accent. In places outside of the US, aluminum is spelled with an extra i. Aluminium is pronounced differently than aluminum.
cplai 11 months ago 4
@lordofspeeds4321 Thats how the rest of the world says "Alluminum"
Only amerca says "Aluminum" [like its spelt with an "i" or something]
wantedlonewolf 10 months ago
i would buy one at the drop or a hat
austpom333 11 months ago
if only it didnt look so homotransexual
unvise 11 months ago
It only costed $450,000
zardinuk 11 months ago
@zardinuk at the very end they said only $6000. I'm sure within 10 years there will be $1000 models that are significantly better than this.
StevenCasteel 11 months ago
WHERE IS THE HYDROGEN BIKE TODAY.....or is it just a "vapor" bike with no real potential?
kauaikit 11 months ago
ok... so this was uploaded 4 years ago..... WHERE IS THE BIKE??
f0k069 11 months ago 2
NEEDS PEDALS
kohan69 11 months ago
Yes, Busettii Bikes have the good pedaling system so you can use it as a bike or pedal with the motor. I have one and it runs about 75--85 miles per charge but you can also pedal like a regular bike. Also, it really goes fast even in throttle mode. Check out busettii dot com if you need more info. ciao
lilian6106 11 months ago
Ok.....WHERE IS THIS BIKE & what's the update of it being available, as it seemed to disappear into "vapor"?
kauaikit 1 year ago
No thankyou.
uncleandy182 1 year ago
haha. i like how people go at it all wrong.... well, i guess its still a step in the right direction... 100% fossil fuel free!! i give it 1 thumbs up
paladain55 1 year ago
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paladain55 1 year ago
Hydrogen exist in an infinite amount in the deep ocean.
If there is a will, there is always a way.
Provided the Corps would allow that.
DancingET 1 year ago 2
@DancingET Are you referring to hydrogen hydrates? A friend of mine study gas hydrates when he was in grad school. Some big oil company offered him a job to extract gas hydrates in Alaska. He declined because he did not want to work in a frozen world.
cplai 8 months ago 2
@cplai and...... if he refers to water, then it takes more energy to extract H from water that we can actually get from H
martinzopetazo 2 months ago
@martinzopetazo The entire Hydrogen economy is about using the Hydrogen molecule as a clean energy storage medium. Using solar power to convert water to hydrogen and oxygen, you essentially store solar energy as chemical energy. When you burn Hydrogen, you release that energy and produce water as a by product. It is a storage cycle, starts with water and ends with water. Clean exchange in between. So hydrogen production must be clean or it defeats the original purpose.
cplai 2 months ago
@martinzopetazo What I meant is that if hydrogen is just an energy storage medium, then it does not matter whether it takes more energy to extract than to consume hydrogen or not as long as you use clean renewable energy. Likewise, every coal fired power plant actually burns more energy to generate the electricity it produces. There is always a loss. So it is silly to burn fossil fuel to produce hydrogen.
cplai 2 months ago
@DancingET
Pure natural hydrogen on earth does not exist, all the H2 on earth already reacted with other elements. Pure hydrogen can only be found in deep space as clouds, stars or gas giants.
rock3tcat 4 months ago
@DancingET Problem with hydrogen is that it isn't a source of energy,
it's only a carrier fuel that must be made with electricity from another
source. And that is inefficient, you lose more than half. Then the process
of converting it to electricity again in a fuel cell is also similarly
inefficient. Then you're finally converting electricity to motion, which
is also lossy, better to simply use batteries, you only have the last
stage of loss. And also storage of hydrogen requires a compressor.
rstevewarmorycom 3 months ago
@rstevewarmorycom,
Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate it.
-ET
DancingET 3 months ago
@rstevewarmorycom totally true :D guess u also know Dr. Ulf's ideas :D unless we go to the sun and harvest some H, this wont work at all.
martinzopetazo 2 months ago
make it look like a sports bike and ill buy but with that design hell no!
HackLover007 1 year ago
WHere can I buy this bike ?
voltagetoe 1 year ago
wait so r we supposed to charge it
MrTyson5262 1 year ago
@MrTyson5262 No. It is a fuel cell, not a battery. By definition, you need to refuel when it is depleted. It is a hydrogen cell cell, so you need hydrogen as a fuel. Hydrogen fuel cell has not taken off because hydrogen supply infrastructure is not in place yet. Google the terms "Essential Element Hydra mobile solar hydrogen fuel cells" to see some recent news.
cplai 1 year ago
dude what the age requriment
SpeedGrapher09 1 year ago
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maria271011 1 year ago
its like gays on electriy hibrid penises
thumbs up if i love engines!!!! (Y)
azzarkichris151 1 year ago
ARRGH im blind !!!
chri943d 1 year ago
If it was really any good he would have to be killed so it must be shite and no threat to the oil companies.
All production electrically powered cars and bikes are crap.
If you really hit the jackpot like STANLEY MAYER then you're fucked and too much of a threat and have to be "neutralised" Shame really.
Spongeflux 1 year ago
@MikeFromTheUK1 Solar power produces electricity which in turns breaks water into Hydrogen and oxygen.
cplai 1 year ago
@cplai i'd just like to say that a large proportion of hydrogen is also produced unsustainably through hydrocarbon fuel cracking, all this solar stuff is done by the smaller companies.
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stopglobalswarming 1 year ago
So, what ever happened to this bike? Did it ever make it to "market"?
Maybe it's been improved on it's range & power, & currently being sold?
How about an updated video?
kauaikit 1 year ago 2
Solar energy is getting cheaper is what i've heard.
zachjohannes1 1 year ago
i wonder how much one would cost... but i wish i can just plug it into a wall also if there is no refuel stations around.
crimsonxlll 1 year ago
I wouldn't mind having a smaller version of that hydrogen fuel cell to keep the battery charged on my electrically assisted bicycle.
vention4wh 1 year ago
$3 for sea water? lmfao
billynightmare 1 year ago
@billynightmare It was Evian. It makes it run faster lol.
stopglobalswarming 1 year ago
what happened to just pedaling a damn bike..... No wonder america is so F****** FAT!
hondamxer300 1 year ago
@hondamxer300 America is fat because people eat fast food shite for regular meals and abhor sweating for any reason. So many people also drive like blind 4000lb bats and terrorise cyclists, so cycle commuting is hard to sell.
Motorised bicycles and light motorcycles are excellent for saving fuel, saving costs, and often times, for cutting taxes/registration/licensing expenses! I've beat traffic jams before by riding a moped to work. People just stare out their windows in envy.
stopglobalswarming 1 year ago
Nice.....since this video is now 3 YEARS OLD, what's the update? Where is the bike, or is the tech being used in other vehicles?
kauaikit 1 year ago
America needs to utilize empty space in the ocean and hot sunny deserts to harness solar power and start creating a sustainable hydrogen economy. Not a hydrogen economy where hydrogen is created by means of fossil fuels and dirty dirty carbon. so many jobs are in this new industry that are low skill jobs, perfect for plenty people working the coal and oil industry. hydrogen is usefull as fuck in so many ways. . . . .and so is weed :-)
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lavernedi 1 year ago
oh i like that i want buy this :D
yolfranxkakashix 1 year ago
You can get hydrogen by using solar panels and running the current into water so fossil fuels wouldn't need to be used. I have made hydrogen in this manner and it does work.
jasgad 1 year ago
WHAT'S THE GENBIKE???
johnson1095 1 year ago
why not solor power thats better
johnpham117 1 year ago
I have a great idea that will stop global warming and cure our current obesity epidemic, get this: a bike that you have to pedal! It's ingenious right? Sign me up for a freakin patent man.
loudbrownstump 1 year ago 2
how much is this bike?? that's the buttom line lol
lala79568 1 year ago
Please watch:
THE WORLD'S SIMPLEST TRANSMISSION for BICYCLE
TABAGfrancis 1 year ago
Great, now lower the price down to 4k, the range up to 200, with some regenerative breaking, and you've got yourself a deal.
djsufferthing 1 year ago
so does it remain considered as a bicycle for license purposes or does it require a class M license as a motorcycle?
rushfan9thcmd 1 year ago
future transport = Push Bikes.
walter0bz 1 year ago
Pretty neat, but I'll stick to my normal bicycle for now. You don't get much cleaner than that.
fnorgen 1 year ago 7
40 pounds of LiPOs instead of a fuel cell will probably reduce your costs and avoid the hydrogen charging station (and the fuel and tank weights)
northerntropics 1 year ago
motor bike gone wrong
TheRarg 1 year ago
I want
DerekBurn 1 year ago
I NEED ONE!!! AMAZING!!
lovenswhal 1 year ago
when in italy????'
PLEASE GIFT TO CHINA,INDIA AND PAKISTAN...and the world ll be safe!!!
max1511 1 year ago
So I would buy it... if I would have even one H station anywhere... but not even one in estonia.
TheNewVideos 1 year ago
where can I buy, this should already be out
RebornLegacy 1 year ago
why are we not seeing these things in nearby bike forecourts it seems they just want us to spend all are money are dirty expensive fuels so the big dogs can make some money, it aint fair and it aint right, i wish bike and similar products go main stream over the world quick time, and now B.P have had a big oil slick that it will urge us more quicker to moake that move to alternate fuel sources
onkars123 1 year ago
i want one too. cool and green stuff. i like it :)
mayoyapri 1 year ago
Where did you get the hydrogen?
matroosjes 1 year ago
@matroosjes There are several different methods, but electrolysis is the easiest and cleanest. Wiki it, you can do an experiment at home with a battery, some wires, zinc and copper and some salt. What the bike essentially does is reverse electrolysis, by gaining a potential difference (electric charge) by combining Hydrogen and Oxygen via a catalyst.
dynewyzard 1 year ago
not bad
zahidul22 1 year ago
Don't you have to use fossil fuels to get the hydrogen for the filling stations? It's still bad for the environment, you just don't see it close to home....
ChickenWingChampion 1 year ago
@ChickenWingChampion While it is true that hydrogen can be produced from fossil fuel, but it is not the only way to produce hydrogen. Any clean power such as solar, wind, wave, geothermal power can be used to produce hydrogen cleanly. Google the terms "Essential Element Hydra mobile solar hydrogen fuel cells" to see some recent news just released few days ago.
cplai 1 year ago 13
@cplai
yes you can make hydrogen from clean energy, but why conver that energy to electricity, to make hydrogen, to make water and get electricity? why dont just use straight up electricity that is in every place in every house allready, and save liek 30% loss in efficiency of making hydrogen and back to water to electricity?
JoelThedude4u 1 year ago
@ChickenWingChampion Oh My GOD............ Please Research......!!? Until people are SOOOOooooo Much in the dark, and dont understand the tecknologi, So anyone can cheat you...YOU have to Research..............!!!
Ebdan88 1 year ago
@ChickenWingChampion
shut up you hippy
motabikeboy 1 year ago
I want one
tiger55331 1 year ago
wow that is fantastic!!!
homebuiltindoorplane 1 year ago
hmmm listen up inventors. recent development in nanotechnology has brought to my attention something called nanograss. this is like solar cells but much more powerful. You could use electrolysis (a process in which electricity splits atoms from its compounds) you could create hydrogen from water. There fore the fuel will be water (75% of the planet is covered in it) and when the waste product is made it will just evaporate into the sky. You can get your fuel from the tap. use this. Let me have 1
Roversdom10 1 year ago
that is one sexy bike
bobo105012 1 year ago
i like this!!
merdekamotor 1 year ago
"Available in the next 2 years" huh? It's been 2 1/2 years since this video was posted, the world is drunk on fossil fuels!!
cresidue 1 year ago
This is the future. They know that oil is fast running out.
marcandsebe 1 year ago
batteries are not "eco" friendly.
EinsteinsFrozenBrain 1 year ago
this is using Electric moters! :)
it works like this you have hydrogen in the car and then the car makes it to elcrtisety and drive 4 Electric moters on every wheel that runs the car :)
zink4600 1 year ago
omg omg omg omg I want one now
mobo231 1 year ago
3:39 Gay leather outfit, lol
guboy1 1 year ago
Why not just use batteries??? They are more efficient than hydrogen cells anyways.!
AndrewKlilly 1 year ago
@AndrewKlilly Batteries have their own problems and limitations. You can refill a fuel cell quickly (assuming the refueling infrastructure is established). Recharging the batteries takes too long. e.g. drive a Tesla sport car from Seattle to LA. After about 3.5 hours of driving, you'd need to stop at the recharging station for 8 hours before continuing. A 18 hour trip becomes 48 hours. Capacity, recharging time, longevity, weight, cost, polluting manufacturing process etc. are problems.
cplai 1 year ago 2
@AndrewKlilly Until a breakthrough in battery technology, electric vehicle is still not good for long distance travel. Keep an eye on carbon nanotubes batteries. That may turn the table around.
cplai 1 year ago 6
@cplai This fuel idea isn't a damaging contributer to the Earth is it? just wondering, I would love to use this in operation work, its pretty quiet and it can last four hours cruising, I like this, can I add you to stay in touch about this beautifull machene?
My name is Gyoku by the way.
Hekigyoku1 1 year ago
@AndrewKlilly because hydrogen is the most common substance in the world/ batteries dont last long
paladain55 1 year ago
Five years later and ... can you buy one? NOPE!
smadeintheshade 1 year ago
THATS SO RETARDED!!! Everyone knows that hydrogen isn't even a real element, its a fake element developed by the nazis during WWII as a propaganda for hydrogen bombs.. Even Albert Einstein states in one of his works that is is impossible for an atom to have a molar mass of less than 1.49993 grams/mole. This is proof that hydrogen isn't real, and these bikes are actually powered by antimatter, however the government would never admit it because they make way too much money from this secret.
caiusbritannicus1 1 year ago
@caiusbritannicus1 Well said. But were you worried about your own safety by revealing so much secret?
cplai 1 year ago
@cplai I am absolutely terrified that the cooperations and government will discover my true identity, however, I am willing to take that risk just to warn my fellow Americunts aboot this treachery.
caiusbritannicus1 1 year ago
@cplai we will never know ^.^
yashirobi123 1 year ago
@cplai its to late the Government already got him...
fireloko99 1 year ago
@cplai
they've already taken him... sssshhh I've said too much
DrChrisBiomed 1 year ago
@caiusbritannicus1
AHAhahaha!!! wtf?
arjont 1 year ago
@caiusbritannicus1 Roll laughing.
stopglobalswarming 1 year ago
Also nuclear power plants create zero greenhouse gasses and the electricity is really cheap to create. The up side is the waste can be converted in the future to clean power when nuclear fusion reactors are created (30-70years from now) that can then burn the nuclear waste and only create energy as a byproduct.
seniorortega 1 year ago
Water = 2 Parts Hydrogen 1 Part Oxygen you may be familiar with a process called electrolysis. Using Clean solar/wind/tidal/Water Damn or even Nuclear power to fuel this process you get hydrogen and oxygen. When the two a burnt, or used in a fuel cell process only water is created as a waste product. The reason I classify nuclear as a clean energy source is the sheer amount of power to waste ratio is so high its in comparison as if a coal plant only produced 100lb of CO2 emissions a year.
seniorortega 1 year ago
The hydrogen comes from FOSSIL FUEL. Where else are we gonna get hydrogen?
Is simpler to use gasoline or petrol.
kdc43 1 year ago
You are quite wrong. Hydrogen can also come from water. It would defeat the purpose of conserving Earth if you make hydrogen out of fossil fuel. Either clean hydrogen or no hydrogen at all. Fossil based hydrogen is simply stupid.
cplai 1 year ago
You are QUITE WRONG. Today's hydrogen fuel is made from natural gas, a fossil fuel, it would be easier to use gas....the pipe lines and stations are here already. My above answer implies hydrogen from fossil fuels would defeat the purpose of conserving the earth. How am I wrong??? My question is what non-fossil or non- nuclear energy source would you use to split water into oxygen and hydrogen? Fairy Dust? POOF! We 'magicaly' make hydrogen out of water???
kdc43 1 year ago
Then i think we are in agreement. Getting hydrogen from fossil fuel is not clean. Same argument on electric cars that get energy from a coal-fired power plant. If these people cannot get clean hydrogen or electricity, simply use gas without going through two lossy conversions. Hydroelectric, wind power, and solar power can produce clean hydrogen.
cplai 1 year ago
@kdc43 electic is the answer on the long run. Humanity faces some major changes on the next 10 years, is not the power of the atom the most easy way to create huge amounts of cheap energy? The way we use the atom is just like the way children play...first we brake the things an after that we try to create better ones. For the guy that likes having gas on his bike to travel for long....come on dude :) First petrol car was driving only 10 miles... where do you want to go?
adyloszonga 1 year ago
@adyloszonga I am building an electric bike now with a 500 watt/hour lithium battery and a 1000 watt hub motor. But the actual cost of nuclear power would be a lot higher if you included the mining, environmental, handling of the radioactive nuke waste. It would be cheaper to build wind and solar farms to make hydrogen to run vehicles
kdc43 1 year ago
@kdc43
Water = 2 Parts Hydrogen 1 Part Oxygen you may be familiar with a process called electrolysis. Using Clean solar/wind/tidal/Water Damn or even Nuclear power to fuel this process you get hydrogen and oxygen. When the two a burnt, or used in a fuel cell process only water is created as a waste product.
seniorortega 1 year ago
@seniorortega I am building an electric bike now with a 500 watt/hour lithium battery and a 1000 watt hub motor. But the actual cost of nuclear power would be a lot higher if you included the mining, environmental, handling of the radioactive nuke waste. It would be cheaper to build wind and solar electrolysis farms to make hydrogen to run vehicles. I was talking about the CURRENT way we get hydrogen,from fossil fuels.
kdc43 1 year ago
@kdc43 I agree there is no future for nuclear power. We need to invest as much as we can into fusion research. If humanity wants to breach the gap out of this 20th century hole we have stagnated into we need true innovation and inspiration. A single full load fusion reactor is estimated (based on current theory) to produce enough electricity to power 10% of the US grid. So we would need to build 15 power plants (5extra peek)to power the entire country and 200 to power the world. Viva La Fusion!
seniorortega 1 year ago
@kdc43 As much as I love the idea of fusion power I am not ignorant to the fact that it is 50-70 years away if that. Wind power is unreliable and solar power is too expensive and takes up way way to much space. Personally I am a proponent of tidal power which is reliable and extremely abundant (anywhere with ocean...) and cheap to build. Implementation is the issue and why investors are few.
seniorortega 1 year ago
@seniorortega So wind is unreliable,but you still can store it in a medium like hydrogen for base line use. Put solar plants in the deserts,no one lives there anyway or float them on ocean. It covers about 75% of the earth. I heard Fusion makes little on radioactive waste, so yea for Fusion. I think that New York harbor has what looks like modified wind turbines on the bottom so that the tidal water runs them,so yes to that. Also to wave power plants on isolated shores.
kdc43 1 year ago
The mileage on this bike seems quite low. 4 hours of driving, 160km range... I'm quite happy with my 4 cylinder motorcycle, thanks.
Nebzz 1 year ago
i'd rather have hyd. than gas, alot better for the enviornment and it's just cool. Even thought it's expansive it will replace gas son enouph, just you wait.
Zippyraww 1 year ago
hydrogen is so much more money
passion4729 1 year ago
honestly I love it, much , the price 6000 bux is a bit high , but by the time will get lower! thx
divedeepinside 1 year ago
aaaahhgg ,where buy ? where? i sleeping
where...aahhg
GOLF7014 1 year ago
Im sure theres an inherent problem with carrying hydrogen aboard a vehicle? There was a vehicle they carried a lot of hydrogen once, The Hindenburg. I wouldnt want it between my legs
Kingcammel 2 years ago
All the researches has shown that hydrogen did not cause the fire on the Hindenburg. The coating on the fabrics which made up the skin of the airship was the culprit. Of course, a hydrogen leak is dangerous for sure. When compared to gasoline, hydrogen is relatively safer. Hydrogen rises and dissipates quickly. Gasoline seeps into cracks and gaps and its fume is explosive. Yet, people live happily with gasoline, i.e. people can handle hydrogen safely too.
cplai 2 years ago
@cplai Hydrogene was not the cause of the fire, but for sure that's what burnt the hindenburg up.
simusfr 1 year ago
@ cplai that square at the end was ment to be a smiley. just a light hearted statment.
Kingcammel 2 years ago
@Kingcammel Once well protected, there's no significant risk. Do you think that carrying 10 liters of gasoline between your legs is safer ? Let me remind you that gas is a much more energetic fuel for the same quantity ...
simusfr 1 year ago
will it be able to go in to dirt bikes
likemylolly 2 years ago
the design is brutal
04fergs 2 years ago