to add toi wenzels 368's comment, a glaive is roughly defined as a single edged, usually curved blate atop a haft, glaives, unlike most other polearms, do not have top spikes, but they can have flukes,
usually i hesitate to call naginata a 'halberd' since halberds have topspikes as well as a varying head shape naginata, if grouped with european polearms would DEFINATELY be a glaive.
to any one who may be confusing what exactly a glaive is, A glaive is european, a guan dao is chinese, a naginata is japanese, other things simliar to the glaive are the halberd, the voulge, the partisan and the guisarme. they are all their own weapon classified under the weapon type polearm. :)
i know its a very disciplined/strict technique, but it honestly looks likes a confused mess. I know real sword/spear fights arent like they are in movies but this looks so unorganized (not this specifically so much as majority of kendo matches and most fighting styles i've seen other then fencing)
Naginata uses bamboo made blades like Kendo. For spears there are many old schools and stuff as well as new ones, maybe in this VTR this is one of those new schools.
@shaolinkungfu666 thats true, but polearm is kind of vague, since a pike's used in a different way than a halberd, which has a different purpose than a glaive, while all of them are classifiable by polearm.
@Wraithlord88 Nope. You said the glaive is the European name for an Asian weapon, where they are two separate weapons. Or did I misunderstand or miss something here?
@DiabolusIgnis well then it's a misunderstanding. What I meant was that polearm is the "weapon class" as such, but it is handled much in a different way than most medieval polearms in europe, so I thought "glaive" to be the most suitable way to classify it. however, I made an mistake in that way, as I could not find any word for the more apropriate (german) term "Sturmsense" so I did use Glaive as synonym. The word could be translated as battle or assault scythe, which is more alike the naginata
Does anyone recall the yari duel in Kurosawa's 1958 classic "The Hidden Fortress"?
Before Nobunaga, then Hideyoshi first professionalized then established the samurai caste, ordinary farmers, merchants and tradesmen often trained on the yari and naginata and served their Lords as Ashigaru (foot soldiers) during war.
to add toi wenzels 368's comment, a glaive is roughly defined as a single edged, usually curved blate atop a haft, glaives, unlike most other polearms, do not have top spikes, but they can have flukes,
elgostine 2 months ago
usually i hesitate to call naginata a 'halberd' since halberds have topspikes as well as a varying head shape naginata, if grouped with european polearms would DEFINATELY be a glaive.
elgostine 2 months ago
to any one who may be confusing what exactly a glaive is, A glaive is european, a guan dao is chinese, a naginata is japanese, other things simliar to the glaive are the halberd, the voulge, the partisan and the guisarme. they are all their own weapon classified under the weapon type polearm. :)
Wenzel368 6 months ago
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i know its a very disciplined/strict technique, but it honestly looks likes a confused mess. I know real sword/spear fights arent like they are in movies but this looks so unorganized (not this specifically so much as majority of kendo matches and most fighting styles i've seen other then fencing)
TownPiligan14 7 months ago
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TownPiligan14 7 months ago
Those weren't spears, they're naginata.
Rep6400 3 years ago
Naginata uses bamboo made blades like Kendo. For spears there are many old schools and stuff as well as new ones, maybe in this VTR this is one of those new schools.
Roy19841123 3 years ago
the correct weapon class of the naginata is "glaive" then.
Wraithlord88 2 years ago 2
@Wraithlord88 well, no. the glaive is a european name for an asian weapon. glaive isn't a class of weapon, polearm is.
shaolinkungfu666 1 year ago
@shaolinkungfu666 thats true, but polearm is kind of vague, since a pike's used in a different way than a halberd, which has a different purpose than a glaive, while all of them are classifiable by polearm.
that's why I called it that way
Wraithlord88 1 year ago
@shaolinkungfu666 The glaive is an European weapon.
The Asians have a polearm called a naginata.
They're different, although very alike =)
DiabolusIgnis 9 months ago
@Wraithlord88 Not really, it's a polearm. The glaive is an European type of polearm.
DiabolusIgnis 9 months ago
@DiabolusIgnis that was already stated, just as I stated my reasoning. no need to repeat everything already said.
Wraithlord88 9 months ago
@Wraithlord88 Nope. You said the glaive is the European name for an Asian weapon, where they are two separate weapons. Or did I misunderstand or miss something here?
DiabolusIgnis 9 months ago
@DiabolusIgnis well then it's a misunderstanding. What I meant was that polearm is the "weapon class" as such, but it is handled much in a different way than most medieval polearms in europe, so I thought "glaive" to be the most suitable way to classify it. however, I made an mistake in that way, as I could not find any word for the more apropriate (german) term "Sturmsense" so I did use Glaive as synonym. The word could be translated as battle or assault scythe, which is more alike the naginata
Wraithlord88 9 months ago
@Wraithlord88 Ah, I see. My bad then. I just got the image of that you meant that Glaive is what Europeans called a Naginata.
DiabolusIgnis 8 months ago
@DiabolusIgnis well, i guess, it was not that easy to understand from that post :)
Wraithlord88 8 months ago
@Rep6400
Does anyone recall the yari duel in Kurosawa's 1958 classic "The Hidden Fortress"?
Before Nobunaga, then Hideyoshi first professionalized then established the samurai caste, ordinary farmers, merchants and tradesmen often trained on the yari and naginata and served their Lords as Ashigaru (foot soldiers) during war.
pinz2022 1 year ago