Also, if you notice how his boss Bryant acts around Deckard. always uneasy, watching him, like he knows about Deckard and is worried he could freak out or something.
i think Gaff is a replicant as well, he will be the next hunter replacing Deckard.
Probably the same model(Nexus6-7?), but i think he's(Gaff) aware of himself. This is one of the things he shows through the unicorn oragami.
Personally I've never thought Deckard was a replicant, but if ONE detail was to cast doubt on that, then it would have to be the collection of photographs on his piano. I got the feeling that they were of people who didn't mean anything to him, but he collected them to feel some kind of attachment to anything that WASN'T related to him or his mercenary lifestyle.
I believe that the strongest Impact the film can make is more about Deckard feeling like a Replicant, although he isn´t. A clearly drawn line between Man and Machine, slowly blurring away on an emotional level...
@GardenOfLoveMUSIC It's actually kinda funny you mentioned the line between, as there is a tribute to Blade Runner called A Blurred Line made for RPG Maker 2000. It deals with the blurred line between man and machine. It was very crude, but obvious the guy loved BR very much.
@chosentonessournotes I haven´t heard about it yet. =) It just seems to me like, if he turned out to be a replicant himself, the movie would loose it´s impact. Talking about BR Related stuff, there´s also a song about it (Star One - It all ends here). It´s from an Album dealing with Sci-Fi Movies only... =)
he is not a replicant in the book there is no evidence for this. why would he be a cop working as a replicant? What model would he be? We like the idea of him being a replicant. I like the idea he is a human killing a synthetic version, that so closely resembles life it reminds us of our own humanity.
he is a Spartan, he WISHES he was a replicant...he envies them
his backstory that he doesn't share is simple, everyone who he ever loved or trusted has died or betrayed him, or both. The main reason he hunts them is to die, there is no way he could actually beat one of them 1 on 1.
The tradgedy of the story is that all of them want to die as well, the noble death. So Deckard is given no release from his endless journey. The 1 on 1 talking death has been his curse, and his curse to them.
@quidda1 i know i shouldn't reply to myself....but i always wanted to view the film that way....and just had to say it. What if everyone is cursed to their own nightmare? I don't want to be killed/ i won't kill you problem
While I think Deckard is a replicant, I think it's more compelling to think of his as a human. The reason for that being, that most of the known replicants in the movie seem to exhibit human qualities where as the humans in the story seem to often come off as being very impersonal, stand-offish and detached.
@NVLUTZ007 Harrison has actually said in a few interviews that he felt Deckard was human, and he at least WANTED him to be human so the audience had someone to connect with since a majority of the cast are either androids, or unlikable people (IE Bryant.)
if a Deckart is a replicant, than he is bad joke of a replicant when all replicants in a film kick hes ass with no problems especially a girls replicants, and he is a blade runner so why he is so weak if he is a replicant? I don't underestand, and Ford with Hauer sayd he is not a replicant
@Michal161ify He's a replicant. There's a scene where his eyes glow, and it was mentioned that replicants have super strength or something. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have survived those punches he received.
@wmjbean 'Then there's his wife. One of the replicants he is tasked to kill looks exactly like his wife.' No, you are mistaken, in the book one of the androids he retires goes by the name of 'Pris Stratton' and is identical to another android of whom he has an affair with, Rachael Rosen. None of the androids look like or relate to his wife, Iran.
b7r7u7c7e nailed it perfectly ! Deckard is a Replicant he didn't know it but he was starting to suspect (unicorn dream red eyes) When he comes to the Police Station Bryant seems edgy around him Deckard tells him 'he was quit when he came in here' & Bryant tells him 'he's nothing he's just little people' What is Bryant holding over him to take on the Blade Runner job ? Time has made this film more amazing You can watch it 100 times & still pick up little hints & clues that Deckard is a Replicant.
@Oucluscupitumamo1 I could never understand why Edward James Alamos's character,(Gaff,)was such an obvious and arrogant asshole to Deckard in the film;like he knew something we didn't.But the end made it clear.Gaff had access to Deckard's files and he knew that he was a replicant. NEXUS~7? He let him know it in a subtle and harmless way at the end with the origami unicorn figure he left behind.Legally, Gaff would now have to retire both Rachel as well as Deckard in the end, but how hypocritical.
@Oucluscupitumamo1 I just watched it again and I never new Roy called Deckard by his name. Know how would he know that? I think thats why Roy didnt kill Deckard because he new he was a Replicant. He dosnet know how to play the piano but has lots of old pictures with none of his pictures in it! The women in the pictures also look like Racheal! There is a deleted seen were Gaf not only tells Decard hes done a mans job but then adds "But are you sure your a man sir"? "Its hard to tell anymore"
correct me if im wrong-its so long since Ive seen or read this story but the way i interpreted is that Deckard was a replicant as we see him dreaming of the unicorn and the origami unicorn is Gaff's way of saying that he knows what Deckard has been thinking/dreaming (because replicants are given the same dreams, like the story about the spider). Any thoughts?
I think it's possible either way. He might have been a replicant. He seems kind of reserved, he doesn't react much to pain, and he ignores Rachel when she asks if he's ever taken a VK Test. The biggest one is the unicorn dream he has and that unicorn bit of origami that cop leaves for Deckard at the end but there are possible if unlikely explanations for all of those. I think the most important thing either way is the defining characteristics of humanity, and the movie explores that well.
Of course Deckard is NOT a replicant. The whole point of the film was showing Deckard's new-found humanity. A story of engineered people and their issues is stupid and insipid.
In terms of Deckard being a Replicant, of course he is. Theres more clues of him being an android then human. His mindless pursuit of Replics. His non back story. The fact he can take loads of damage from the powerful nexis 6 replicants. His cold, robotic reaction to Rachel during there love seen. Rachel asking if he took the test on himself. The unicorn dream. The collection of photos on the piano. HIs eyes glowing red at his apt. Gaff never backs him up or helps him during his pursuits.
otherise they could've had him tested or tested himself since ridley mentions how he had thoughts of it, but if he truly id he'd just do that test to find out if he is or not. So he aint
In the director's cut Deckard dreams of a unicorn and near the end of the movie Gaff leaves an origami unicorn in Deckard's apartment. That's why i think Deckard is a replicant.
I believe Deckard is human, but seems to suppress his emotions (i.e becomes the replicant), whereas the replicants (i.e Roy) are capable of both extreme violence and compassion (both of which are shown), therefore becoming 'human'.
I don't think it was ever said in the movies that he was a replicant; this is worse than the 'who shot first' debarkle; Deckard was a human, Han Solo mercilessly blasted the fuck out of Greedo -end of
@Ashburnalley5 Of course, it is well known to Blade Runner fans that Ridley said Deckard is a Replicant. But he said that Years after the film was released, when the fans speculated if Deckard is a replicant. Ford maintains Deckard is Human. The creator of the story and characters Philip K Dick intended Dekard to be human. If youwant to think Deckard is a replicant that is your choice.
@dvlarry Having read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" I have to disagree with you. There are a number of places in the book where Deckard's existence is called into question. He's a cop, yet he encounters a police station, staffed with officers, he had no previous knowledge of. He suspects that they are all replicants, but this is highly unlikely in reality.
Then there's his wife. One of the replicants he is tasked to kill looks exactly like his wife.
yea, I know each version of the film they do some slight changes.
True, Ridley Scoot played it both ways on purpose. but...
The whole point of the point is " what is human?" & can you tell the difference?
That's why I always believed he was a replicant and Deckard is unaware of this himself.
Before Deckard falls from the ledge, Roy Batty grabs him & yells ; "Ah, kinship!". Suggesting they were family. He also never attempted to kill Deckard. Roy only killed humans in the film
@coolbuddydude1 You make a point about the ambiguity of human verses replicant. In the opening lines of the film it says that Tyrell corp advanced robot evolution into the nexus phase, a being virtually identical to a human. The way I interpret that, as well as the subsequent conversations of Roy Batty with Chew and Sebastian, is that replicants are really laboratory made, engineered humans. I assert they are human because human physiology is the template for replicants. How is that different?
Story-wise people of the future do not share your view.They consider replicants as a commodities. replicants are made variably augmented depending on their purpose; mercenaries, workers,lovebots etc.
Physiologically They are different. They are robots made with synthetic-organic material.
That said, yes, the movie tries too show even though they are different, they feel the same emotions as us and are plagued with false memories and with they become more lost even though it was done
@coolbuddydude1 I'm not concerned with how people of the future view replicants mainly because they are characters in a movie. Anyway how replicants are regarded in the film is made clear enough. But the film was made for us, people in the present, to analyze the practice of creating these replicants that might as well be human (they are more human than not), and using them as reluctant, disposable slaves. The film poses many philosophical questions, but this one seems most prominent.
@coolbuddydude1 He retired from being a policeman not because he was at retirement age, but because he'd "had a belly full of killing." In the theater release version Deckard's narration spoke of him reading the want ads looking for a job. He said (paraphrasing) "They don't advertise for killers in the want ads. That's what I was, ex-cop, ex-blade runner, ex-killer."
@coolbuddydude1 I think the narration helped a lot of people understand the film in the early days before we had all this conversation and web pages that explain it a million different ways. I understant Riddley Scott was against it, but since at heart it is something of an art film, without some explaination I think people would have left the theater scratching their heads and feeling dumb and dissappointed. The only real difference I see between human and replicant is in how they are created.
wait a minute !!!! doesn't he mean Tyrell's niece ? Not Deckard's?? The file in question has been read by Deckard and that's why he would know those facts Right??????
@treysmithorama Thank you Trey...Yup What Scott was saying came out wrong. Probably didn't even realize it.
I remember reading the Phillip K Dick book "Do androids dream of electric sheep." It was changed I guess, to be more modern but I did enjoy the movie. I like Scott because I thought "alien" was a great film also. Did you ever hear any controversy that Harrison Ford Did not want to do the voiveover? And the studio insisted? Better without it!
I think he's a replicant of an earlier generation than the nexus 6. Why endanger a human to destroy the replicants? When he's in the the Police Chief's office and is about to leave and the Cheif says "stop right there, you know who you are? you're not cops, you're little people." and Deckard says "No choice, huh?" It doesn't sound like he had any "human" rights. Just my thoughts
The should’ve thrown more money at this film, I would have loved to have seen the replicants emerging from corpses and climbing the mound to look at the stars, and then the city scape.
The original film worked best with Deckard as a Human. There's a diff from the book to the film where doubting being human was an issue.The film worked with Deckard as the weak "moral" human assigned to kill the Replicants who wanted to live + create identities.Deckard's family photos are juxtaposed to Leon's "family photos", human Deckard is beat up & Rachel watches.It makes us think about what it means to be human.The unicorn dream=Director's attempt to alter things + it wrecks the piano music
For those asking why he dosent have all the powers of the replicant if he is one....HE'S a NEW VERSIAN! And a great way to not make him think he's human. Its so clear I don't understand why people think other wise. There is a deleted part on the blue ray when gaff says "youve done a mans job, but your not really a man are you?
You've got to laugh, if it wasn't for Ridley Scott literaly saying "DECKARD IS A REPLICANT" some people would never think differently simply because they don't want to.
Beside the point, Unicorn dream/Deckard = replicant.
Its interesting the different directions that Dick's novel and Scott's film take. in the book, there is a sequence where the Deckard, and presumably the reader think that he might be an android (replicant), however it is shown that he is not. Another is the relationship with Rachel. In the book she is essentially a robo slut who screws Blade Runners. Very different takes on the characters and story. Both are very good though.
in my opinion deckard is human...why???well because in the begining of the movie bryant says that he is a veteran blade runner and when he first meets rachel tyrell says that she is a prototype so he can't be a replicant and be a veteran...
Exactly. Of course he's a replicant; the foil unicorn intimates as much. Essentially the moral is that it doesn't matter - Roy demonstrates that a replicant can have more poetry in its soul than a human being.
@DaveUndertaker Your statement about Roy is only partially true. Roy did indeed demonstrate what you just said, but it wasn't something he was capable of projecting until his very last moments of his life. It was his own unescapable death that gave him insight. Before that, he was a very bad boy.
But the foil unicorn can also pass as a fact that replicants in fact dream the same dreams as humans. Having another profound aspect on philosophy: They are capable of dreaming the unreal and unprogrammed, therefore they are as much human as we are.
Deckard is a replicant thats THE WHOLE point of the unicorn scene at the end. I don't understand how so many people disregard the whole point of the ending.
@sepaltura22: I could'nt agree more ! Gaff is human ! He makes a small unicorn out of foil..While sparing Rachel's lifen at the end or near the end of the film depending on what cut of the film you see.,..Deckard's dream is of an unicorn ! Showing his memories are fake too ! The unicorn is a marker by Tyrell Corperation !! "More human than human is our motto!"
Deckard's a replicant and replicants only have a 4 year life span....so how much time does he have left? Tyrell made Rachel more human than human,and if I remember correctly without a time limit.
Zhora was a military model,an assassin. As she was strangling Deckard the door to her dressing room opens ,she panics and runs away. Now that's funny ,and the worst scene in the movie. Deckard either able shoot her in the dressing as she strangles him ,or you don't shoot the scene.
What really makes people want to know wether he is or is not a replicant is that near everyone identifies himself with deckards character while watching that great movie.
Remember Deckard picking up, studying, then nodding in appreciation at Gaff's tiny, origami, unicorn figure? That's the real give-away, here. Earlier in the film, we saw Deckard have a vision of a running unicorn, so how could Gaff possibly have known of this vision unless he knew that Deckard's memories were also implanted? No wonder Gaff shouted: "Too bad she won't live, but then again, WHO DOES?". Another huge hint that Deckard was indeed a Replicant. Mystery solved.
Remember Deckard picking up, studying, then nodding in appreciation at that tiny, origami, unicorn figure? That's the real give-away, here. Earlier in the film, we saw Deckard have a vision of a running unicorn, so how could Gaff possibly have known of this vision unless he knew that Deckard's memories were also implanted? No wonder Gaff shouted: "Too bad she won't live, but then again, WHO DOES?". Another huge hint that Deckard was indeed a Replicant. Mystery solved.
great to find this comment of scott as i thought about exactly that strange possibility after seen the movie twice :-) but more important for me was finally that LOVE itself does not matter either you are human or not. the white pigeon seems to me a symbol for EACH CONSCIOUSNESS that sees with its eyes life, universe and how big it is all what we call EXISTENCE :-) i love the film...
"A human being without the proper empathy or feeling is the same as an android built so as to lack it, either by design or mistake. We mean, basically, someone who does not care about the fate which his fellow living creatures fall victim to; he stands detached, a spectator, acting out by his indifference John Donne's theorem that "No man is an island," but giving that theorem a twist: that which is a mental and a moral island is not a man." ~ P.K.D.
You see, the problem here is that the replicants in Blade Runner are more human than Deckard himself. The film and the novel took different directions.
I love this film but why does it matter who is a Replicant and who's Human? if robots or cybernetic organisms(replicants) become that advanced they still have personality and what I think is the soul - a character.
So they shouldn't be hunted because they want independence, that's cruel and wrong.
It's similar to i,robot, "one day they'll have secrets, one day they'll have dreams".
I hope when robots in real life advance this far they won't be treated like in the film, 2035 I'm guessing =)
"Ridley Scott discusses ... whether he is a replicant or not."
That's not what he's talking about at all... he just rambles for a minute and a half about how Deckard was inspired by the classic noir detectives. There's nothing in here about whether or not Deckard is a replicant.
@MrContatoindireto basically what I am saying is that science fiction isn't about laser beams and whatnot. Human expression and feelings are extremely important in science fiction and should not be considered desperate elements in science fiction. Just take a look at such other works that I will list with my remaining characters. 1984, Brave New World, Ghost in the Shell, Fahrenheit 45, Alien (the other great Scott movie) A Clockwork Orange, 2001 A Space Odyssey, They Live!, And Lo! The Bird
And in conclusion, its common to see science fiction films talking about science fiction stuff. Blade Runner has it too, but its concerned about much more than that. Its a great speach about human feelings and fears and a lot of other things. Anyway, i am not saying anything bad about the movie, its impossible!
@MrContatoindireto Don't worry I am not saying you think the movie is bad but you have to realize that all the great works of science fiction are the same as Blade Runner. Like Brave New World, basically forfeits a lot of character drama to just be one huge metaphor. My main problem is that you seem to think that human feelings and stuff are placed out side of science fiction which isn't true. They are very important in science fiction and are explore in a countless amount of works in sci-fi
By the way, science fiction doesnt need to be a metaphor. It can be a different point of view, a view of the possible or something, but not necessarelly a metaphor.
@MrContatoindireto however it still is what it is and you still said it wasn't. It is a science fiction movie and it is a great metaphor, still science fiction.
I am talking that today ppl are just interested in empty entertainment and always i see ppl evaluating Blade Runner only in terms of science fiction and special effects and its not the point of the beauty of blade runner.
Of course it has too, but not only. I can tell you a lot of science fiction that is not more than what i told before. Empty entertainment. And, of course, its not the case of this fantastic film.
@MrContatoindireto What? It's still a science fiction movie, in fact that is the entire point of science fiction is to be a metaphor for the modern world. What are you talking about?
@MrContatoindireto ok I read all of your speach and you are correct but my problem is that you said it was not a science fiction movie, which is just pulling stuff out of your ass. Basically see it as this, even if this isn't a 100% accurate. All science fiction stories are metaphors but not all metaphors are science fiction. This movie is STILL science fiction on top of being a metaphor. You don't have to explain all the symbolism I already know it.
@NoFearNoFlamI I agree, but not in all aspects. I don't agree that all sci fi works are metaphors. Many metaphors can be in science fiction, but i can tell you a lot more sci fi movies that are NOT metaphors. Many can considere, but they are not. Science fiction can tell us about a story too or they can be just pictoric ones. I agree that there are more excellent metaphoric sci fi movies, but not because they are sci fi, but because they are metaphors.
@NoFearNoFlame Well, you told me about a lot of good sci fi movies, that seem to make your statement true, but the fact of there are good movies don't change the fact of there are bad ones too. And they are sci fi too. There are both in all styles.
Anyway, i don't really care if you agree or not. But i certainly agree they are good because they are not just sci fi.
@MrContatoindireto Ok I will take that even though I think it is just sci fi but I just think that sci fi is just that great. Just a final thing, to me sci-fi isn't just laser beams/androids and it's all setting for the true drama that is evident in all (even bad) science fiction. Anyways fun "debate" (youtube isn't really a good place for coherent debates) At least we agree that Blade Runner fuckin owns
@MrContatoindireto ok I read all of your speach and you are correct but my problem is that you said it was not a science fiction movie, which is just pulling stuff out of your ass. Basically see it as this, even if this isn't a 100% accurate. All science fiction stories are metaphors but not all metaphors are science fiction. This movie is STILL science fiction on top of being a metaphor. You don't have to explain all the symbolism I already know it.
deckard, rachel, tyrel, roy batty, pris, zhora and leon are all repliants(skinjobs) but what about the others? gaffe, J.F. and bryant, chew(the eye maker) i think most people in blade runner are replicants...
In the film, there's a scene between Deckard and Tyrell where Deckard asks Tyrell "How can it not know what it is?".......and Tyrell's expression says it all (i.e you can tell that he is thinking the answer, namely "Well, you don't know what you are"). Watch closely and you'll see what I mean. Additionally, when Deckard asks Bryant "And if the machine doesn't work??".......watch Bryant's face too - he knows that Deckard would fool the Voight Kampff because he's a new revision of replicant.
clues to replicant, when Gaff first tells him Bryant want to speak with him Ford's head moves 45 degrees and sez Bryant huh?
then @ Bryant's office, Deckard can't understand why the replicants would want to break into Tyrell's office, he does the head thing again, because it's beyond his comprehension, Bryant at this point looks uneasy and says something like Well you tell me pal, that's what you're here for. he has no choice but to do it, it's his job, function
6 replicants. 1 dies in escape, yet he is to only hunt 4.
He was captured, reprogrammed as a Blade Runner and reawakens on the street at the beginning of the movie with a mission to capture his fellow replicants
@yugcisum All six replicants are accounted for. One dies at their attempt to brake in at the corporation but is "fried by the electrical fence" or something like that.
1) Roy Batty yells KINSHIP when he grabs Han Solo...means they belong to the same kind... 2) the cop at the end says something like "youve done a MANS job..." implying Han Solo is not really a MAN....3) that same cop leaves an origami unicorn way before implying he know what Han Solo is dreaming...
Han Solo is a replicant and he shudve BEEN ON THOSE LOUSY STAR WARS PREQUELS!!! GEORGE I HATE U CUS U RUINED THE FIRST ONES!!! By the way, the Crytal Skull wasnt that good...tell Sberg!
The question whether Deckard is a replicant or not doesn't need to be answered for this film to work. The movie is about one of the most human qualities: doubt, which is the root of all religion. Deckard is transformed from a non-believer into a believer, BECAUSE he has doubts, not because he knows the truth. This makes him exceptionally human, even if he is a replicant (which he probably is). That's what makes this film so perfect.
@nimos1 We are all replicants. We have children which is a product of the "replication" process - sex. Even to say Roy was a man-made human, still makes him human. We are all Man-made whether in the laboratory or the laboratory of the womb.
@SmokiSounds Depends on your beliefs. The film had an implied religious thread in it - albeit a sterile copy. When meeting his maker, Tyrell, Roy decided he 's like an imposter God. Roy believed he had a soul which Tyrell could not have created. He also called him "fucker" which meant more than an insult. The question of the soul was partly implied by the symbolism of the dove and also the unicorns. The origami unicorn was also a hint that Deckard was a man-made human - a replicant.
@desotowright he's a replicant, look on bbc website Scott admits it, its to do with deckards dream about a unicorn, then at the end that guy makes an mini unicorn saying it was his memories not Deckards because replicants have no earlier memories..
@joker9494949494 Here's the thing, I didn't originally see the cut with the unicorn dream. At one point it seemed like Scott was doing everything in his power to do away with any ambiguity so that his vision was it, no matter what. It can work either way, but I prefer the version where we the audience can decide for ourselves. Even if Harrison Ford's narration didn't work in most spots.
@devourerofbabies Did you not read my other comment? I explain myself pretty well there. Besides, making Deckard a replicant is kind of a cheap movie in my opinion, I think it's more powerful that a human would feel love for a replicant and vice versa. The whole "protagonist is a relpicant too" bit cheapens it and dulls the impact of the story for me. Sorry, I prefer the theatrical cut, though Ford's narration doesn't always work perfectly.
@desotowright No, I didn't read your other comment, I read only your Top Comment with 19 thumbs up. I don't agree that it cheapens the story if Deckard is a replicant, in fact I think it makes it significantly stronger. It's also very clear that Deckard is a replicant if you read the book.
Well if Deckard is a replicant everything goes to waste. We don't have a replicant feeling love towards a human and vice versa, we just have... replicants.
Also once Deckard is done with the job, Gaff says to him "you've done a man's job" with the intention of sparking the listener's attention to the fact that Deckard is indeed a Replicant. The Glowing eyes is def another clue. His love for another replicant should also be looked into . And thank you streeTkiDwannaBe for pointing out the unicorn at the end. It only solidifies my belief that Deckard is a Replicant. After all why would Batty save him if he didn't believe Deckard was a replicant
@clonedkeifer Ridley Scott has answered already that deckard is a replicate and has agreed on a possible thought that deckard was a nexus 7, possessing no superhuman strength or intelligence but false memory implants as is shown with the unicorn daydream and unicorn origami at the end. The other replicates have shown pain as well in the movie.
Someone answer this question to me: If Deckard is a Replicant, Why did it hurt when Roy Batty broke his fingers? Pris put her hand in scalding hot water and it caused no pain, and Leon put his hand in liquid nitrogen and his hand did not break or hurt or get frostbite. The one scene where you see a quick glimpse of Deckard's eyes glow was a lighting issue, I know because I have seen and heard enough interviews from the crew.
@clonedkeifer Well, Batty felt pain as well when he shoved the nail through his hand. It could just have been that Pris and Leon were so used to putting their bodies through such extreme punishment the pain was not new to them(or it could have been because Batty's body was already breaking down heavily when he did what he did). Another idea is if Deckard is a replicant, he feels pain to mask the fact he is a machine from himself.
The point of the movie is ambiguity. You dont know if he is one, he might be. And this is what makes Gaff's last statement remembered by Deckard in the elevator so precious. Saying definitely if he is human or a replicant just shows you havent got a clue as to what the movie is about.
Firstly, there is no definitive 'explanation' for ANY film - the creation stands apart from what the director thinks it is about, it is an entity in its own right (RS said Deckard WAS a replicant, after all). So what you are saying is true for any film where meaning is not laid out super-obviously.
Secondly (imo), Gaff's last statement is not precious because it expresses ambiguity about whether Deckard is a replicant. It is precious for the second proclamation
So the guy has a dream about a unicorn, and that's somehow supposed to imply he's a replicant? Can anyone fill me in on that, cuz I just don't get the association.
In the director's cut, Gaff (Olmos) has a habit of making small matchstick and origami figures, and near the end of the film he leaves a small paper unicorn for Deckard to find - a message that he knows about Deckard's unicorn "memories"/dreams - just as Deckard knew about Rachael's "memories" (mere implants from Tyrell's neice) - implying that Deckard is also a replicant. Without the origami unicorn (cut from other versions I think), the unicorn dream doesn't mean much.
@waldenpondogre In the director's cut, Gaff (Olmos) has a habit of making small matchstick and origami figures, and near the end of the film he leaves a small paper unicorn for Deckard to find - a message that he knows about Deckard's unicorn "memories"/dreams - just as Deckard knew about Rachael's "memories" (mere implants from Tyrell's neice) - implying that Deckard is also a replicant. Without the origami unicorn (cut from other versions I think), the unicorn dream doesn't mean much
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Also, if you notice how his boss Bryant acts around Deckard. always uneasy, watching him, like he knows about Deckard and is worried he could freak out or something.
i think Gaff is a replicant as well, he will be the next hunter replacing Deckard.
Probably the same model(Nexus6-7?), but i think he's(Gaff) aware of himself. This is one of the things he shows through the unicorn oragami.
l1qu1dm3t4lIV 2 weeks ago
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l1qu1dm3t4lIV 2 weeks ago
Oddly, Ridley here says "Deckard's neice" here when it was Tyrell's neice.
Jawsphobia 3 weeks ago
this movie is fascinating
whocareswutmynameis 3 weeks ago
Personally I've never thought Deckard was a replicant, but if ONE detail was to cast doubt on that, then it would have to be the collection of photographs on his piano. I got the feeling that they were of people who didn't mean anything to him, but he collected them to feel some kind of attachment to anything that WASN'T related to him or his mercenary lifestyle.
wildley007 1 month ago
I believe that the strongest Impact the film can make is more about Deckard feeling like a Replicant, although he isn´t. A clearly drawn line between Man and Machine, slowly blurring away on an emotional level...
GardenOfLoveMUSIC 1 month ago 5
@GardenOfLoveMUSIC It's actually kinda funny you mentioned the line between, as there is a tribute to Blade Runner called A Blurred Line made for RPG Maker 2000. It deals with the blurred line between man and machine. It was very crude, but obvious the guy loved BR very much.
chosentonessournotes 3 weeks ago
@chosentonessournotes I haven´t heard about it yet. =) It just seems to me like, if he turned out to be a replicant himself, the movie would loose it´s impact. Talking about BR Related stuff, there´s also a song about it (Star One - It all ends here). It´s from an Album dealing with Sci-Fi Movies only... =)
GardenOfLoveMUSIC 3 weeks ago
@GardenOfLoveMUSIC It's really nothing special. It's very dated as it was released almost 10 years ago. But I'll definitely have to check that out!
chosentonessournotes 3 weeks ago
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he is not a replicant in the book there is no evidence for this. why would he be a cop working as a replicant? What model would he be? We like the idea of him being a replicant. I like the idea he is a human killing a synthetic version, that so closely resembles life it reminds us of our own humanity.
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littlefire79 1 month ago
he is a Spartan, he WISHES he was a replicant...he envies them
his backstory that he doesn't share is simple, everyone who he ever loved or trusted has died or betrayed him, or both. The main reason he hunts them is to die, there is no way he could actually beat one of them 1 on 1.
The tradgedy of the story is that all of them want to die as well, the noble death. So Deckard is given no release from his endless journey. The 1 on 1 talking death has been his curse, and his curse to them.
quidda1 1 month ago
@quidda1 i know i shouldn't reply to myself....but i always wanted to view the film that way....and just had to say it. What if everyone is cursed to their own nightmare? I don't want to be killed/ i won't kill you problem
quidda1 1 month ago
While I think Deckard is a replicant, I think it's more compelling to think of his as a human. The reason for that being, that most of the known replicants in the movie seem to exhibit human qualities where as the humans in the story seem to often come off as being very impersonal, stand-offish and detached.
NVLUTZ007 1 month ago
@NVLUTZ007 Harrison has actually said in a few interviews that he felt Deckard was human, and he at least WANTED him to be human so the audience had someone to connect with since a majority of the cast are either androids, or unlikable people (IE Bryant.)
chosentonessournotes 3 weeks ago
if a Deckart is a replicant, than he is bad joke of a replicant when all replicants in a film kick hes ass with no problems especially a girls replicants, and he is a blade runner so why he is so weak if he is a replicant? I don't underestand, and Ford with Hauer sayd he is not a replicant
Michal161ify 1 month ago
@Michal161ify He's a replicant. There's a scene where his eyes glow, and it was mentioned that replicants have super strength or something. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have survived those punches he received.
jiopa 1 month ago
@Michal161ify When he's being shown the other replicants Dossiers they all say "Athletic Live: A" or something like that. Maybe Deckard is a B or C?
BelatedGamer 1 month ago
@wmjbean 'Then there's his wife. One of the replicants he is tasked to kill looks exactly like his wife.' No, you are mistaken, in the book one of the androids he retires goes by the name of 'Pris Stratton' and is identical to another android of whom he has an affair with, Rachael Rosen. None of the androids look like or relate to his wife, Iran.
JoeDraws5 2 months ago
b7r7u7c7e nailed it perfectly ! Deckard is a Replicant he didn't know it but he was starting to suspect (unicorn dream red eyes) When he comes to the Police Station Bryant seems edgy around him Deckard tells him 'he was quit when he came in here' & Bryant tells him 'he's nothing he's just little people' What is Bryant holding over him to take on the Blade Runner job ? Time has made this film more amazing You can watch it 100 times & still pick up little hints & clues that Deckard is a Replicant.
Oucluscupitumamo1 2 months ago
@Oucluscupitumamo1 I could never understand why Edward James Alamos's character,(Gaff,)was such an obvious and arrogant asshole to Deckard in the film;like he knew something we didn't.But the end made it clear.Gaff had access to Deckard's files and he knew that he was a replicant. NEXUS~7? He let him know it in a subtle and harmless way at the end with the origami unicorn figure he left behind.Legally, Gaff would now have to retire both Rachel as well as Deckard in the end, but how hypocritical.
MrSchultzstaffel 1 month ago
@Oucluscupitumamo1 I just watched it again and I never new Roy called Deckard by his name. Know how would he know that? I think thats why Roy didnt kill Deckard because he new he was a Replicant. He dosnet know how to play the piano but has lots of old pictures with none of his pictures in it! The women in the pictures also look like Racheal! There is a deleted seen were Gaf not only tells Decard hes done a mans job but then adds "But are you sure your a man sir"? "Its hard to tell anymore"
b7r7u7c7e 1 month ago
correct me if im wrong-its so long since Ive seen or read this story but the way i interpreted is that Deckard was a replicant as we see him dreaming of the unicorn and the origami unicorn is Gaff's way of saying that he knows what Deckard has been thinking/dreaming (because replicants are given the same dreams, like the story about the spider). Any thoughts?
MrAlfred1995 2 months ago
I think it's possible either way. He might have been a replicant. He seems kind of reserved, he doesn't react much to pain, and he ignores Rachel when she asks if he's ever taken a VK Test. The biggest one is the unicorn dream he has and that unicorn bit of origami that cop leaves for Deckard at the end but there are possible if unlikely explanations for all of those. I think the most important thing either way is the defining characteristics of humanity, and the movie explores that well.
TheDukeofCanterbury 2 months ago
Of course Deckard is NOT a replicant. The whole point of the film was showing Deckard's new-found humanity. A story of engineered people and their issues is stupid and insipid.
coolbreeze922 2 months ago
@coolbreeze922 youre pretty stupid and insipid. read the novel by PKD before saying such stupid shit ....
OrgulloCriolloTV 2 months ago
In terms of Deckard being a Replicant, of course he is. Theres more clues of him being an android then human. His mindless pursuit of Replics. His non back story. The fact he can take loads of damage from the powerful nexis 6 replicants. His cold, robotic reaction to Rachel during there love seen. Rachel asking if he took the test on himself. The unicorn dream. The collection of photos on the piano. HIs eyes glowing red at his apt. Gaff never backs him up or helps him during his pursuits.
b7r7u7c7e 2 months ago 12
@b7r7u7c7e nah he isn't.
otherise they could've had him tested or tested himself since ridley mentions how he had thoughts of it, but if he truly id he'd just do that test to find out if he is or not. So he aint
angay324 1 month ago
If they did a sequel, it would've been answered.
rathraven1313 3 months ago
@rathraven1313 If they did a sequel it would be shit
15catsburg 3 months ago 16
@15catsburg If Bladerunner had made money, Ridley Scott would've done a sequel and it would've answered if Deckard was human or replicant.
rathraven1313 3 months ago
@15catsburg well theres going to be either a sequel or a prequel and Ridley Scott is onboard to direct it
imagination43 2 months ago
@15catsburg there is going to be one and ridleys on board google that ish and get pumped
BruinFilm13 3 weeks ago
I think it makes perfect sense that Bladerunners are replicants. Let the replicants take the risk. Not humans.
quesondriac 4 months ago
so Deckard will die in 4 yrs?
Ashburnalley5 6 months ago
In the director's cut Deckard dreams of a unicorn and near the end of the movie Gaff leaves an origami unicorn in Deckard's apartment. That's why i think Deckard is a replicant.
spiderjerusalem100 6 months ago 2
I think everyone should worry whether or not Ridley is a Replicant
punke217 6 months ago
I believe Deckard is human, but seems to suppress his emotions (i.e becomes the replicant), whereas the replicants (i.e Roy) are capable of both extreme violence and compassion (both of which are shown), therefore becoming 'human'.
janderson1234 6 months ago
I don't think it was ever said in the movies that he was a replicant; this is worse than the 'who shot first' debarkle; Deckard was a human, Han Solo mercilessly blasted the fuck out of Greedo -end of
richystuff 6 months ago
@richystuff watch the movie, Deckard is a replicant. the clues are there.
Mattkidchannel 6 months ago
Harrison Ford said NO , Deckard is not a replicant, he is a human.
dvlarry 6 months ago
@dvlarry And the director said he is.
Ashburnalley5 6 months ago
@Ashburnalley5 Of course, it is well known to Blade Runner fans that Ridley said Deckard is a Replicant. But he said that Years after the film was released, when the fans speculated if Deckard is a replicant. Ford maintains Deckard is Human. The creator of the story and characters Philip K Dick intended Dekard to be human. If youwant to think Deckard is a replicant that is your choice.
dvlarry 6 months ago
@dvlarry Having read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" I have to disagree with you. There are a number of places in the book where Deckard's existence is called into question. He's a cop, yet he encounters a police station, staffed with officers, he had no previous knowledge of. He suspects that they are all replicants, but this is highly unlikely in reality.
Then there's his wife. One of the replicants he is tasked to kill looks exactly like his wife.
wmjbean 5 months ago
Deckard was a replicant.
-He showed the same eyes in the bathroom scene (later removed)
-His dreams are known to the other police agent
-He looks at his pictures constantly
-He escaped with his beloved fellow replicant
-Their was one replicant who died on a electric fence
(I think he was reprogrammed and fixed to hunt down the others)
The problem is Deckard doesn't know either that he is one.
More human than Human that's our motto!
coolbuddydude1 6 months ago
@coolbuddydude1
Also, Ridley Scoot played it both ways on purpose.
The whole point of the point is " what is human?" & can you tell the difference
coolbuddydude1 6 months ago
@coolbuddydude1 one problem: in the final cut bryant says "two of them".
DragonOfAlkor 6 months ago
@DragonOfAlkor
yea, I know each version of the film they do some slight changes.
True, Ridley Scoot played it both ways on purpose. but...
The whole point of the point is " what is human?" & can you tell the difference?
That's why I always believed he was a replicant and Deckard is unaware of this himself.
Before Deckard falls from the ledge, Roy Batty grabs him & yells ; "Ah, kinship!". Suggesting they were family. He also never attempted to kill Deckard. Roy only killed humans in the film
coolbuddydude1 6 months ago
@coolbuddydude1 You make a point about the ambiguity of human verses replicant. In the opening lines of the film it says that Tyrell corp advanced robot evolution into the nexus phase, a being virtually identical to a human. The way I interpret that, as well as the subsequent conversations of Roy Batty with Chew and Sebastian, is that replicants are really laboratory made, engineered humans. I assert they are human because human physiology is the template for replicants. How is that different?
dewfall56 6 months ago
@dewfall56
Story-wise people of the future do not share your view.They consider replicants as a commodities. replicants are made variably augmented depending on their purpose; mercenaries, workers,lovebots etc.
Physiologically They are different. They are robots made with synthetic-organic material.
That said, yes, the movie tries too show even though they are different, they feel the same emotions as us and are plagued with false memories and with they become more lost even though it was done
coolbuddydude1 6 months ago
@coolbuddydude1 I'm not concerned with how people of the future view replicants mainly because they are characters in a movie. Anyway how replicants are regarded in the film is made clear enough. But the film was made for us, people in the present, to analyze the practice of creating these replicants that might as well be human (they are more human than not), and using them as reluctant, disposable slaves. The film poses many philosophical questions, but this one seems most prominent.
dewfall56 6 months ago
it was done to them in order to give a background memory to start their life with.
Replicants do not grow like humans do. they are "born" (manufactured) into this world as adult forms.
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coolbuddydude1 6 months ago
@DragonOfAlkor
Also, Deckard is pulled from "retirement". He is relatively too young looking to be retired.
he's young (40years old) has black & white photos ,how?
He was probably given the memories of an old retired cop.
Him getting out of his retirement was really reawakening from his stasis of sorts.
coolbuddydude1 6 months ago
@coolbuddydude1 He retired from being a policeman not because he was at retirement age, but because he'd "had a belly full of killing." In the theater release version Deckard's narration spoke of him reading the want ads looking for a job. He said (paraphrasing) "They don't advertise for killers in the want ads. That's what I was, ex-cop, ex-blade runner, ex-killer."
dewfall56 6 months ago
@dewfall56
ya, well they took it off. because it didnt belong in it.
anyway like I said before Ridley Scott made the movie so we will be confused, whether he is or not.
The movie is about human/replicant whats the difference?.
But in the end, He can't be both. Replicants try to be accepted as human & not humans try to be replicant.
So logically Deckard is a replicant considering the point of the movie.
not to mention the unicorn origami on the floor.
coolbuddydude1 6 months ago
@coolbuddydude1 I think the narration helped a lot of people understand the film in the early days before we had all this conversation and web pages that explain it a million different ways. I understant Riddley Scott was against it, but since at heart it is something of an art film, without some explaination I think people would have left the theater scratching their heads and feeling dumb and dissappointed. The only real difference I see between human and replicant is in how they are created.
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coolbuddydude1 6 months ago
Great point jones! BUT, could it be that the little people on earth couldn't colonize on other planets ??? Too sick or otherwise?
Fred7777c 6 months ago
wait a minute !!!! doesn't he mean Tyrell's niece ? Not Deckard's?? The file in question has been read by Deckard and that's why he would know those facts Right??????
lflarry1 7 months ago
@lflarry1 Noticed that too, I think he misspoke.
treysmithorama 6 months ago
@treysmithorama Thank you Trey...Yup What Scott was saying came out wrong. Probably didn't even realize it.
I remember reading the Phillip K Dick book "Do androids dream of electric sheep." It was changed I guess, to be more modern but I did enjoy the movie. I like Scott because I thought "alien" was a great film also. Did you ever hear any controversy that Harrison Ford Did not want to do the voiveover? And the studio insisted? Better without it!
lflarry1 6 months ago
@lflarry1 Actually I hadn't, but then again, the only version that I have seen didn't have the voice over. I suppose I need to see it :/
treysmithorama 6 months ago
I think he's a replicant of an earlier generation than the nexus 6. Why endanger a human to destroy the replicants? When he's in the the Police Chief's office and is about to leave and the Cheif says "stop right there, you know who you are? you're not cops, you're little people." and Deckard says "No choice, huh?" It doesn't sound like he had any "human" rights. Just my thoughts
Jonesx91x 7 months ago
@Jonesx91x great point about Deckard, I uploaded the scene you mention..."no choice pal"
watch?v=8-Xk8PCvJvc
mytwitz2010 7 months ago
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I say, no he is not.
DJRobinfox 7 months ago
the only way you can believe whether or not he is human or replicant is your own interpretation.
MeTaLdUdE02 7 months ago
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{Replicant or Human, thats not the real question. The real question is what is the difference?}
No, I think the real question is can a Human Soul die, leaving only a replicant -- and conversely can one be born.
This is the question of our time.
mindprism 7 months ago
So I clicked on this video and learned how to make a macaroni salad using Dorito's.
TROLLERSDELIGHT 7 months ago
If the film makers themselves say that he's a replicant you'd have to be one serious mongoloid to disagree
leej70 7 months ago
The should’ve thrown more money at this film, I would have loved to have seen the replicants emerging from corpses and climbing the mound to look at the stars, and then the city scape.
heatflash888 7 months ago
The original film worked best with Deckard as a Human. There's a diff from the book to the film where doubting being human was an issue.The film worked with Deckard as the weak "moral" human assigned to kill the Replicants who wanted to live + create identities.Deckard's family photos are juxtaposed to Leon's "family photos", human Deckard is beat up & Rachel watches.It makes us think about what it means to be human.The unicorn dream=Director's attempt to alter things + it wrecks the piano music
TheZeps 8 months ago
For those asking why he dosent have all the powers of the replicant if he is one....HE'S a NEW VERSIAN! And a great way to not make him think he's human. Its so clear I don't understand why people think other wise. There is a deleted part on the blue ray when gaff says "youve done a mans job, but your not really a man are you?
gungfu777 8 months ago
You've got to laugh, if it wasn't for Ridley Scott literaly saying "DECKARD IS A REPLICANT" some people would never think differently simply because they don't want to.
Beside the point, Unicorn dream/Deckard = replicant.
Don't argue with me.
harrychalcraft 8 months ago 2
Stephen Hawking now says that Human = Machine.
31428571J 8 months ago
Its interesting the different directions that Dick's novel and Scott's film take. in the book, there is a sequence where the Deckard, and presumably the reader think that he might be an android (replicant), however it is shown that he is not. Another is the relationship with Rachel. In the book she is essentially a robo slut who screws Blade Runners. Very different takes on the characters and story. Both are very good though.
theotron84 8 months ago
Whether he is human or replicant is irrelevant. That is the answer boy and girls.
MrSergeiii 8 months ago
in my opinion deckard is human...why???well because in the begining of the movie bryant says that he is a veteran blade runner and when he first meets rachel tyrell says that she is a prototype so he can't be a replicant and be a veteran...
nikoshurricane 8 months ago
@nikoshurricane Implants ;)
masterneme 8 months ago
Exactly. Of course he's a replicant; the foil unicorn intimates as much. Essentially the moral is that it doesn't matter - Roy demonstrates that a replicant can have more poetry in its soul than a human being.
DaveUndertaker 8 months ago 6
@DaveUndertaker Your statement about Roy is only partially true. Roy did indeed demonstrate what you just said, but it wasn't something he was capable of projecting until his very last moments of his life. It was his own unescapable death that gave him insight. Before that, he was a very bad boy.
Christiantodd1 1 month ago
@DaveUndertaker
I agree he was a replicant.
But the foil unicorn can also pass as a fact that replicants in fact dream the same dreams as humans. Having another profound aspect on philosophy: They are capable of dreaming the unreal and unprogrammed, therefore they are as much human as we are.
mshartz5 1 month ago
Rutger Hauer´s character is a real human...
peterikarlstad 9 months ago
it was Tyrell's' niece's memories not Deckard's ......
TheBlondeButton 9 months ago 16
@TheBlondeButton That was the first glaring error that struck me. I think he meant to say it but didn't.
MrSlyxx 2 months ago
Deckard is a replicant thats THE WHOLE point of the unicorn scene at the end. I don't understand how so many people disregard the whole point of the ending.
sepaltura22 9 months ago
@sepaltura22: I could'nt agree more ! Gaff is human ! He makes a small unicorn out of foil..While sparing Rachel's lifen at the end or near the end of the film depending on what cut of the film you see.,..Deckard's dream is of an unicorn ! Showing his memories are fake too ! The unicorn is a marker by Tyrell Corperation !! "More human than human is our motto!"
davisgreen2020 9 months ago
Replicant or not, it doesn't matter in the end. That is at least what I get from it.
luvhair255 9 months ago
The story, by one of the masters of Sci-Fi...is supposed to be ambivalent...I'll leave it at that.
SidNightWalker 9 months ago
Deckard's a replicant and replicants only have a 4 year life span....so how much time does he have left? Tyrell made Rachel more human than human,and if I remember correctly without a time limit.
Zhora was a military model,an assassin. As she was strangling Deckard the door to her dressing room opens ,she panics and runs away. Now that's funny ,and the worst scene in the movie. Deckard either able shoot her in the dressing as she strangles him ,or you don't shoot the scene.
s0undch4ser 9 months ago
What really makes people want to know wether he is or is not a replicant is that near everyone identifies himself with deckards character while watching that great movie.
So what? Can i identify myself with a cyborg??
gorantrevise 10 months ago
Remember Deckard picking up, studying, then nodding in appreciation at Gaff's tiny, origami, unicorn figure? That's the real give-away, here. Earlier in the film, we saw Deckard have a vision of a running unicorn, so how could Gaff possibly have known of this vision unless he knew that Deckard's memories were also implanted? No wonder Gaff shouted: "Too bad she won't live, but then again, WHO DOES?". Another huge hint that Deckard was indeed a Replicant. Mystery solved.
Turrican60 10 months ago
Remember Deckard picking up, studying, then nodding in appreciation at that tiny, origami, unicorn figure? That's the real give-away, here. Earlier in the film, we saw Deckard have a vision of a running unicorn, so how could Gaff possibly have known of this vision unless he knew that Deckard's memories were also implanted? No wonder Gaff shouted: "Too bad she won't live, but then again, WHO DOES?". Another huge hint that Deckard was indeed a Replicant. Mystery solved.
Turrican60 10 months ago
They reckon the directors cut of blade runner implies in the end that Deckard is a replicant but I dont see how
CrackshotProductions 10 months ago
great to find this comment of scott as i thought about exactly that strange possibility after seen the movie twice :-) but more important for me was finally that LOVE itself does not matter either you are human or not. the white pigeon seems to me a symbol for EACH CONSCIOUSNESS that sees with its eyes life, universe and how big it is all what we call EXISTENCE :-) i love the film...
TomDeToys 10 months ago
oh shit i thought i had an original thought
deckardisareplicant 10 months ago
If he is a replicant he makes the jump? But as noted whether he is or isn't is irrelevant.
dredandmrbears 11 months ago
Spolier Alert: the scene with Sean Young finding out she is a replicant is a heartbreaker moment.
Stablemable2 11 months ago
Replicant or Human, thats not the real question. The real question is what is the difference?
guanaesantonio 11 months ago 78
@guanaesantonio I think replicants die quicker or something.
FetaCheese222 10 months ago
@guanaesantonio
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Onepretentiousdude 6 months ago
@Onepretentiousdude
Please I can't believe you are calling me pretentious.
guanaesantonio 6 months ago
@guanaesantonio I concur.
"A human being without the proper empathy or feeling is the same as an android built so as to lack it, either by design or mistake. We mean, basically, someone who does not care about the fate which his fellow living creatures fall victim to; he stands detached, a spectator, acting out by his indifference John Donne's theorem that "No man is an island," but giving that theorem a twist: that which is a mental and a moral island is not a man." ~ P.K.D.
andmaketherain 4 months ago
@andmaketherain
You see, the problem here is that the replicants in Blade Runner are more human than Deckard himself. The film and the novel took different directions.
TheFollower232 2 months ago
I love this film but why does it matter who is a Replicant and who's Human? if robots or cybernetic organisms(replicants) become that advanced they still have personality and what I think is the soul - a character.
So they shouldn't be hunted because they want independence, that's cruel and wrong.
It's similar to i,robot, "one day they'll have secrets, one day they'll have dreams".
I hope when robots in real life advance this far they won't be treated like in the film, 2035 I'm guessing =)
Johny40Se7en 11 months ago
"Ridley Scott discusses ... whether he is a replicant or not."
That's not what he's talking about at all... he just rambles for a minute and a half about how Deckard was inspired by the classic noir detectives. There's nothing in here about whether or not Deckard is a replicant.
MikePwnz 11 months ago
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MrContatoindireto 11 months ago
@MrContatoindireto basically what I am saying is that science fiction isn't about laser beams and whatnot. Human expression and feelings are extremely important in science fiction and should not be considered desperate elements in science fiction. Just take a look at such other works that I will list with my remaining characters. 1984, Brave New World, Ghost in the Shell, Fahrenheit 45, Alien (the other great Scott movie) A Clockwork Orange, 2001 A Space Odyssey, They Live!, And Lo! The Bird
NoFearNoFlame 11 months ago
And in conclusion, its common to see science fiction films talking about science fiction stuff. Blade Runner has it too, but its concerned about much more than that. Its a great speach about human feelings and fears and a lot of other things. Anyway, i am not saying anything bad about the movie, its impossible!
MrContatoindireto 11 months ago
@MrContatoindireto Don't worry I am not saying you think the movie is bad but you have to realize that all the great works of science fiction are the same as Blade Runner. Like Brave New World, basically forfeits a lot of character drama to just be one huge metaphor. My main problem is that you seem to think that human feelings and stuff are placed out side of science fiction which isn't true. They are very important in science fiction and are explore in a countless amount of works in sci-fi
NoFearNoFlame 11 months ago
By the way, science fiction doesnt need to be a metaphor. It can be a different point of view, a view of the possible or something, but not necessarelly a metaphor.
MrContatoindireto 11 months ago
@MrContatoindireto however it still is what it is and you still said it wasn't. It is a science fiction movie and it is a great metaphor, still science fiction.
NoFearNoFlame 11 months ago
I am talking that today ppl are just interested in empty entertainment and always i see ppl evaluating Blade Runner only in terms of science fiction and special effects and its not the point of the beauty of blade runner.
Of course it has too, but not only. I can tell you a lot of science fiction that is not more than what i told before. Empty entertainment. And, of course, its not the case of this fantastic film.
MrContatoindireto 11 months ago
Blade runner is not a science fiction movie, its a great metaphor.
MrContatoindireto 11 months ago
@MrContatoindireto What? It's still a science fiction movie, in fact that is the entire point of science fiction is to be a metaphor for the modern world. What are you talking about?
NoFearNoFlame 11 months ago
@NoFearNoFlame
Don't confuse the meaning of metaphor.
MrContatoindireto 11 months ago
@MrContatoindireto ok I read all of your speach and you are correct but my problem is that you said it was not a science fiction movie, which is just pulling stuff out of your ass. Basically see it as this, even if this isn't a 100% accurate. All science fiction stories are metaphors but not all metaphors are science fiction. This movie is STILL science fiction on top of being a metaphor. You don't have to explain all the symbolism I already know it.
NoFearNoFlame 11 months ago
@NoFearNoFlamI I agree, but not in all aspects. I don't agree that all sci fi works are metaphors. Many metaphors can be in science fiction, but i can tell you a lot more sci fi movies that are NOT metaphors. Many can considere, but they are not. Science fiction can tell us about a story too or they can be just pictoric ones. I agree that there are more excellent metaphoric sci fi movies, but not because they are sci fi, but because they are metaphors.
MrContatoindireto 11 months ago
@NoFearNoFlame Well, you told me about a lot of good sci fi movies, that seem to make your statement true, but the fact of there are good movies don't change the fact of there are bad ones too. And they are sci fi too. There are both in all styles.
Anyway, i don't really care if you agree or not. But i certainly agree they are good because they are not just sci fi.
MrContatoindireto 11 months ago
@MrContatoindireto Ok I will take that even though I think it is just sci fi but I just think that sci fi is just that great. Just a final thing, to me sci-fi isn't just laser beams/androids and it's all setting for the true drama that is evident in all (even bad) science fiction. Anyways fun "debate" (youtube isn't really a good place for coherent debates) At least we agree that Blade Runner fuckin owns
NoFearNoFlame 11 months ago
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@MrContatoindireto ok I read all of your speach and you are correct but my problem is that you said it was not a science fiction movie, which is just pulling stuff out of your ass. Basically see it as this, even if this isn't a 100% accurate. All science fiction stories are metaphors but not all metaphors are science fiction. This movie is STILL science fiction on top of being a metaphor. You don't have to explain all the symbolism I already know it.
NoFearNoFlame 11 months ago
Replicants are a metaphor for our own fear of death and the need of find the creator or something that can turn us imortals.
MrContatoindireto 11 months ago
deckard, rachel, tyrel, roy batty, pris, zhora and leon are all repliants(skinjobs) but what about the others? gaffe, J.F. and bryant, chew(the eye maker) i think most people in blade runner are replicants...
please debate?
gillenpantera 11 months ago
hes a replicant he has dreams of unicorns that's why the police officer leaves a origami unicorn he knows thats my theory n e way..
TheTimmyricey 1 year ago
In the film, there's a scene between Deckard and Tyrell where Deckard asks Tyrell "How can it not know what it is?".......and Tyrell's expression says it all (i.e you can tell that he is thinking the answer, namely "Well, you don't know what you are"). Watch closely and you'll see what I mean. Additionally, when Deckard asks Bryant "And if the machine doesn't work??".......watch Bryant's face too - he knows that Deckard would fool the Voight Kampff because he's a new revision of replicant.
jcpadmore 1 year ago
:27 he means Tyrell's neice
clues to replicant, when Gaff first tells him Bryant want to speak with him Ford's head moves 45 degrees and sez Bryant huh?
then @ Bryant's office, Deckard can't understand why the replicants would want to break into Tyrell's office, he does the head thing again, because it's beyond his comprehension, Bryant at this point looks uneasy and says something like Well you tell me pal, that's what you're here for. he has no choice but to do it, it's his job, function
r4ltman 1 year ago
@r4ltman - Yep, Ridley got it wrong - its is indeed TYRELL'S niece's memory that was implanted into Rachel.
jcpadmore 1 year ago 2
thank you for this film ridley thats all there is to it
jackcoglin 1 year ago
I never saw anything that suggests Deckard was a replicant. WTF
SpazzyMcGee1337 1 year ago
6 replicants. 1 dies in escape, yet he is to only hunt 4.
He was captured, reprogrammed as a Blade Runner and reawakens on the street at the beginning of the movie with a mission to capture his fellow replicants
yugcisum 1 year ago
@yugcisum All six replicants are accounted for. One dies at their attempt to brake in at the corporation but is "fried by the electrical fence" or something like that.
andge1001 1 year ago
1) Roy Batty yells KINSHIP when he grabs Han Solo...means they belong to the same kind... 2) the cop at the end says something like "youve done a MANS job..." implying Han Solo is not really a MAN....3) that same cop leaves an origami unicorn way before implying he know what Han Solo is dreaming...
Han Solo is a replicant and he shudve BEEN ON THOSE LOUSY STAR WARS PREQUELS!!! GEORGE I HATE U CUS U RUINED THE FIRST ONES!!! By the way, the Crytal Skull wasnt that good...tell Sberg!
Wakipenda 1 year ago
@Wakipenda Some people have this crazy habit of calling Han Solo "Harrison Ford" in real life. Not like that's his real name or anything.
scarabmango 1 year ago
The question whether Deckard is a replicant or not doesn't need to be answered for this film to work. The movie is about one of the most human qualities: doubt, which is the root of all religion. Deckard is transformed from a non-believer into a believer, BECAUSE he has doubts, not because he knows the truth. This makes him exceptionally human, even if he is a replicant (which he probably is). That's what makes this film so perfect.
Fripitto 1 year ago
he dreams of a unicorn- and that oragami guy left one on the floor at the end- his memories were fabricated and his friend was warning him!
itchytastyurr 1 year ago
@itchytastyurr That and the shoots of where his eye lenses are red, proofs to me that he is a replicant.
andge1001 1 year ago
Deckard is NOT a replicant for many reasons!
nimos1 1 year ago
@nimos1 We are all replicants. We have children which is a product of the "replication" process - sex. Even to say Roy was a man-made human, still makes him human. We are all Man-made whether in the laboratory or the laboratory of the womb.
Jeorney 1 year ago
@Jeorney And the first man is what-made?
SmokiSounds 1 year ago
@SmokiSounds Depends on your beliefs. The film had an implied religious thread in it - albeit a sterile copy. When meeting his maker, Tyrell, Roy decided he 's like an imposter God. Roy believed he had a soul which Tyrell could not have created. He also called him "fucker" which meant more than an insult. The question of the soul was partly implied by the symbolism of the dove and also the unicorns. The origami unicorn was also a hint that Deckard was a man-made human - a replicant.
Jeorney 1 year ago
@Jeorney
The dove bit wasn't intended in the script. It was an aesthetic choice made later on.
unabomberman 1 year ago
(cont) 'Then again, who does?' , implying that replicants ARE humans, or exist in the human state. They are, to all intents and purposes, human too.
baboon2525 1 year ago
HE IS A PRECOODOD CANT OMG
memokk 1 year ago
I believe the answer is up to us. I still believe Deckard is human.
desotowright 1 year ago 24
@desotowright as do I!
pjdr 1 year ago
@desotowright he's a replicant, look on bbc website Scott admits it, its to do with deckards dream about a unicorn, then at the end that guy makes an mini unicorn saying it was his memories not Deckards because replicants have no earlier memories..
cdmharley 1 year ago
@desotowright how else would daff know about the unicorn dream?
joker9494949494 8 months ago
@joker9494949494 Here's the thing, I didn't originally see the cut with the unicorn dream. At one point it seemed like Scott was doing everything in his power to do away with any ambiguity so that his vision was it, no matter what. It can work either way, but I prefer the version where we the audience can decide for ourselves. Even if Harrison Ford's narration didn't work in most spots.
desotowright 8 months ago
@desotowright Deckard is unequivocally a replicant.
devourerofbabies 7 months ago
@devourerofbabies Did you not read my other comment? I explain myself pretty well there. Besides, making Deckard a replicant is kind of a cheap movie in my opinion, I think it's more powerful that a human would feel love for a replicant and vice versa. The whole "protagonist is a relpicant too" bit cheapens it and dulls the impact of the story for me. Sorry, I prefer the theatrical cut, though Ford's narration doesn't always work perfectly.
desotowright 7 months ago
@desotowright No, I didn't read your other comment, I read only your Top Comment with 19 thumbs up. I don't agree that it cheapens the story if Deckard is a replicant, in fact I think it makes it significantly stronger. It's also very clear that Deckard is a replicant if you read the book.
devourerofbabies 7 months ago
Well if Deckard is a replicant everything goes to waste. We don't have a replicant feeling love towards a human and vice versa, we just have... replicants.
DestroyerAlexandros 1 year ago 2
Also once Deckard is done with the job, Gaff says to him "you've done a man's job" with the intention of sparking the listener's attention to the fact that Deckard is indeed a Replicant. The Glowing eyes is def another clue. His love for another replicant should also be looked into . And thank you streeTkiDwannaBe for pointing out the unicorn at the end. It only solidifies my belief that Deckard is a Replicant. After all why would Batty save him if he didn't believe Deckard was a replicant
franckelbonzo 1 year ago
@clonedkeifer Ridley Scott has answered already that deckard is a replicate and has agreed on a possible thought that deckard was a nexus 7, possessing no superhuman strength or intelligence but false memory implants as is shown with the unicorn daydream and unicorn origami at the end. The other replicates have shown pain as well in the movie.
streeTkiDwannaBe 1 year ago
Maybe reading the book from which Blade Runner's plot was taken from would help.I have'ne read it yet and I'm planning on it.
I believe it's called ''Do androids dream of electric Sheep'' or something like that.
famouspork 1 year ago
Someone answer this question to me: If Deckard is a Replicant, Why did it hurt when Roy Batty broke his fingers? Pris put her hand in scalding hot water and it caused no pain, and Leon put his hand in liquid nitrogen and his hand did not break or hurt or get frostbite. The one scene where you see a quick glimpse of Deckard's eyes glow was a lighting issue, I know because I have seen and heard enough interviews from the crew.
clonedkeifer 1 year ago
@clonedkeifer Well, Batty felt pain as well when he shoved the nail through his hand. It could just have been that Pris and Leon were so used to putting their bodies through such extreme punishment the pain was not new to them(or it could have been because Batty's body was already breaking down heavily when he did what he did). Another idea is if Deckard is a replicant, he feels pain to mask the fact he is a machine from himself.
Phoenix20191 1 year ago
This movie is bad-ass! One of the best EVER!
bronzesword06 1 year ago 3
The point of the movie is ambiguity. You dont know if he is one, he might be. And this is what makes Gaff's last statement remembered by Deckard in the elevator so precious. Saying definitely if he is human or a replicant just shows you havent got a clue as to what the movie is about.
Gargantua606 1 year ago 2
@Gargantua606 Hmm, not exactly.
Firstly, there is no definitive 'explanation' for ANY film - the creation stands apart from what the director thinks it is about, it is an entity in its own right (RS said Deckard WAS a replicant, after all). So what you are saying is true for any film where meaning is not laid out super-obviously.
Secondly (imo), Gaff's last statement is not precious because it expresses ambiguity about whether Deckard is a replicant. It is precious for the second proclamation
baboon2525 1 year ago
As far as twists goes, it just doesn't really add anything to the movie
waldenpondogre 1 year ago
So the guy has a dream about a unicorn, and that's somehow supposed to imply he's a replicant? Can anyone fill me in on that, cuz I just don't get the association.
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motionpixdp 1 year ago
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In the director's cut, Gaff (Olmos) has a habit of making small matchstick and origami figures, and near the end of the film he leaves a small paper unicorn for Deckard to find - a message that he knows about Deckard's unicorn "memories"/dreams - just as Deckard knew about Rachael's "memories" (mere implants from Tyrell's neice) - implying that Deckard is also a replicant. Without the origami unicorn (cut from other versions I think), the unicorn dream doesn't mean much.
motionpixdp 1 year ago
@waldenpondogre In the director's cut, Gaff (Olmos) has a habit of making small matchstick and origami figures, and near the end of the film he leaves a small paper unicorn for Deckard to find - a message that he knows about Deckard's unicorn "memories"/dreams - just as Deckard knew about Rachael's "memories" (mere implants from Tyrell's neice) - implying that Deckard is also a replicant. Without the origami unicorn (cut from other versions I think), the unicorn dream doesn't mean much