The Six Pack Caddie Smack

[MINIBNRR]

lower the amount of water in the bubbler.

[EletrikRide]

Why????

[MINIBNRR]

Becuase it will get sucked into the engine when you drive and the car shifts around. The vacuum will also make the water expand and go up into the engine. The bubbler has been tested by me to NOT flashback with just a inch of water. A flashback means your timing is off or engine is damaged. I have revved a healthy engine with HHO to 10K RPMs with no bubbler or flash arrestor. Bubblers can be more trouble than thay are worth.

[EletrikRide]

Lowering the bubbler water is something I refuse to endorse. It is wrong and dangerous, no matter what you say about your tests. Sloshing, ingestion? Not a problem at all with my 4" bubbler design. Been running this bubbler design all summer on the Ranger with NO problems - and I keep it 3/4 full. So I will stick to what I know works. I will NEVER EVER run without a bubbler. Your suggestion is dangerous and should not be heeded under any circumstances.

[arkijak]

I own a 1964 Buick Riviera- 425 ci V8, 4bbl carter carb, 3.55 rear axle ratio. I installed 2 w4g cells. Mileage improved from 6.3 MPG to 10 MPG! Added a 3rd cell and mileage jumped to 13.84! Around town! I was able to reset the timing back to original specs. No more pinging and no more dieseling after shutdown. I have added a 4th cell. Would like to get 20 mpg around town.

[EletrikRide]

Now imagine what you could do if you had a good cell design instead of the W4G

[bouncebackkk]

I have a chevey truck3/4ton with a 350 no CUM,cadildic converter,or oxegen sencers but it does have a holly carb My question is on the six pack caddie smack did you make any engene alterrations to the engene to get tha 88% increase in mpg and if leaning the carb back is need could you help me with some kind of comparison to what you did on your caddie

[EletrikRide]

I never was able to post any numbers on the Caddie, as it is not mine and the owner did not complete testing. On the Ranger, I did nothing more than an ECM reset as I mentioned. You may not need to do anything to a carb model either, but I cannot say for certain yet as I have not tested one.

[bouncebackkk]

So if I dont have ECM or the need of a EFIE because it dose not have oxegen sensor so I would have to ajust the carb manualy to lean the air to fuel other wise how else would get better mpg it wood run better but still would not now to ajust without the computer which it dose not have

[kerpal2343]

Bedini reasonant circuit + assumbly a better alternator, and your a god.

[EletrikRide]

LOL, I dont know about the God bit, but I'm working on it :-)

[kerpal2343]

fear enough, to bad their isn't a third case. I.e. upper case GOD, then their is god (egotistical alien with advanced technology, agreeable terms, a ray gun, and superior medical technology), we need a super lower case. Maybe good, will work.

[hemmel777]

Theres a guy who turned an old alternator into a motor and proposed running another belt off the second one to run another alternator... Also, theres videos of people modifying older alternators to produce 120 volts with just 3 'taps'. Anyway, maybe something to look into for a power source to recharge those batteries?

[pinoykunat]

Do you recharge your batteries after 2 hours? Thanks

[zeropointprophet]

does your alternator charge the rear batterys? for the hho generator?

[EletrikRide]

absolutely not!

[asusreviews]

I had this exact Idea to put a Deep cycle mariene battery in the truck so it wouldn't put any more stress on the stock alternator. What size batteries you using? I was thinking of possibly getting a 110-130 Amp hour deep cycle battery. Assuming a 30 amp draw (I have a 4 cylinder) The battery should last me 4hrs or so.

Is there a clear diagram showing your smack cell setup anywhere?

[EletrikRide]

125 amp-hr walmart's

[manfmnantucket]

hi smack,

wait a second here, if the battery is rated 125 amp/hour, isnt that assuming a 20-hour drain cycle? I.e., its designed for a max of about 6 amps/hour under normal use, if you want to be able to recharge it.

If that's correct you'd need TEN such batteries for a 60-amp load or TWENTY for 120A... or get batteries rated for like 1000 amp/hours - am I remembering this wrong?

How many times do you expect to be able to (or have already) recharge those batteries?

thanks, ManFmNantucket

[EletrikRide]

10 times so far. You underestimate the capacity of the batteries.

E

[manfmnantucket]

are you saying that the rated capacity is far understated, or that I am misinterpreting the rating? Either way, how many recharges would you expect at this rate before the batteries stop recharging?

[EletrikRide]

I'm saying what I said. 125 amp hours. They should be run ideally at 50% of the rating for maximum longevity. I'm not worried about longevity, I'm looking for results. How many times? 10 so far and counting. I'll let you know when they are done. Also, your interpretation of this rating is the first I've heard. 20 hour drain cycle? Where did you get that number?

[manfmnantucket]

I want to run my booster from a (solar-charged) battery but some research discovered this "C20" rating is norm for specs. ie divide a/h by 20 for nominal discharge rate. Faster discharge can take you below 50% and reduce life from say 2k to 200 recharges. I ended up thinking Id either buy new ones yearly or get much bigger capacity to start.. I agree about results vs longevity/optimizing BTW. Just wanting to avoid wasting $.

[EletrikRide]

Time will tell.

[CripesAMighty]

I have a test car that's a 1996 Cadillac SLS with the NorthStar 300hp 32v V8. I don't have the SmackBooster but my own design of HHO generator. I'm getting 24.6mpg with two generators at an average speed of just over 60mph. I will be upgrading to four generators in the hopes of getting it to around 28mpg. "Props to SmackBoosters"

[EletrikRide]

awesome!!!!

[Hollywoods7]

I built this booster,and the plates did not hold up after 3 hrs.I used a pwm' amps held at 9 amps ,distilled water was used and a very small amount of soudium hydroxide.Temp was 130 deg volts 13.7 I used the disc from Hyfusion....

[hydrohybrids]

Haha.. Nice caddy smack! Love the mega set up. Can't wait to hear the results. I have been tinkering with my nissan 240sx turbo and managed to hit 41mpg up from 28 on the highway. Keep pushing the boundaries bro...

[EletrikRide]

Thanks!!!

[usaslav60]

Nice Caddy, six pack is great, you are teaching the world, you found your nitch.

keep up the good work!

later

rlalatus

[ScienceScott]

This is the kind of tech we should be moving for. Extra battery assisted smacks are where it's at. Nice work.

[EletrikRide]

Thanks and right on! I'm working on a more refined system now...

[dash134]

USA USA USA!

[ehnriko]

Now that's a real car!!! I used to have a 59 El Dorado Biarritz Convertible before... miss it!

All the Best!

[bmf5150]

hey smack thanks for your designs and sharing them with everyone for free!!!

[EletrikRide]

No prob., you are welcome!

[danieljoemckinney]

Hay Mr smack You are to cool! in my Book! And thanks for the info I have Made one of my own and Copied most from your disign. the one thing I did differ,nt is I used A heavy duty flasher switch on it for timed delay to help keep it cool. And I also placed a drain valve on the bottom and two stainless tube fittings on the top for EZ filling.I also am going thrue the air intake and not the breather And could you tell me if there is A differance On how you dilliver the goods? Dj mckinnney

[eliminategas]

Is that a boat or a car? Didn't I see some rods on the end of it?

[EletrikRide]

Firstly, you are missing the entire point. We wanted the most inefficient vehicle we could find. Secondly, you are just jealous because you don't own anything even half this cool.

[eliminategas]

I have a brand new 2008 corvette in my garage (black).. lol but know that ain't cool!.. I was kidding about your car man. Chill out.

[EletrikRide]

Always show respect.  The new vettes are sweet, BTW.

[HappyKmore]

12.4 MPG? Are you kidding? If you really wanted to be "green" you'd turn that caddy into a lawn ornament... or start driving a Hummer H1.

[EletrikRide]

Learn to read and listen. Thats with a dead batt - the test was incomplete. Give me a break and save your piss poor attitude for someone that cares.

[rickeygottheblues]

Hey smack big fan here one size smaller main jet in the carb and timeing set to top dead center and this thing would really do its best I was thinking one of those sollar pannel battery chargers on top of my suv keep up the good work

[squarebob62]

AWEsome work you're doing smack. God bless you for sharing your enthusiasm and information.

You ARE in the 'zone', using the 'Force'.!!!!! Enjoy your journey... Thousands of us are chasing your dream, but your definitely in the lead.. Thanks

[EletrikRide]

Just use the Secret and put yourself right in the rails, brother.

[AlmostHydrogen]

wow you CAN hear the difference.

Good job Smack!

AH

[1alien2]

A 59 Caddie, they don't make cars like that anymore. They were big, heavy and better yet simple. No O2 sensors on these babies, lol. Good job and very nice setup.

[EletrikRide]

Right on! I mean, how SWEET is that???

[bluegrassdigital]

Very nice! can't wait to see the MPG results after testing...

[EletrikRide]

Me either! We got 12.4MPG on our first run after the show, but the batteries ran out during the run because they were not fully charged - so we will have to do a better run with batteries at a full charge. We will do several tests over varying conditions to get good numbers across the board and of course post them for you.