Who says anyway we haven't found them? I'm sure we have. We have sightings for one thing, good DNA now even, and the high likelihood of knowledge already treated with silence from authorities.
@eminboztepe Quick LOOK its Bob H in a bigfoot suit WHAT A MATCH LOL ,*waits for the rant about chambers and patterson altering the suit * and how it was not Phillio Morris blah blah blah BULLSHIT
There is an army of hoaxers all coordinated together over many many generations that have a preconceived plan to make a natural size distribution of footprints that all show certain similarities such as aspect ratios and dynamic signatures that interact with the correct shear forces on a given type of soil to form such footprints, often at large pace lengths and showing dermal ridges and scars at times. The hoaxers have the time, energy, money, sophistication, dedication, and means of access.
@Regzus cant be faked? the only people who tried had a 500$ budget on the suit... and there is no muscles moving under the skin whatsoever in the patterson footage.. you must be another moron fooled by that fucking retarded tv show... you need to learn its a show.. bigfoot shows bring in a lot of money so if they debunk it theres no more money =( ... if you look at still photos of this "creature" on google its the shittiest suit ever... shiny fur,no ass crack, wrong face and head...
Yep, Morris I think is simply jealous of Chambers or something, he wants his name connected to it. Truth is, none of them had anything to do with it since anatomy proves Patty to be a real creature, whatever it is that a Bigfoot is. Real flesh and blood she was, there's little doubt of that. You can see the exact same gait when you watch the Marble Mountain video; too tall and bulky to fake, arms swinging, legs, everything. Absolutely real Sasquatch beings, both of them, no doubt about it.
@reclaimerReclaimer Your so fucking crazy that it makes me crazy.... Thats really crazy.. If you can't tell its fake just by watching 2 seconds of the patterson film your head is so far up your ass its insane.. We have footage of the most elusive animals in the world animals that you have to travel to the end of the earth to find... Including insects that cant be seen with the naked eye.. But we cant film a 9 foot monkey in our backyard? or get it on satellite imagery?
@RcUniverseGuy Get out of here, freak. Not my problem you don't want to see this, but rest assured you soon shall see more proof. 'Only have 500$' lol You realize what that would mean in 1967's money? Today day we have materials they didn't then and we still can't. You don't seem to grasp this anatomy deal, it's the one crucial point why your little skeptic dream of a suit has exploded in your own faces now. Not then and not now, do you know the build of these beings means we can't recreate it.
@XBattleDude I agree...love Monster Quest and Searching for Bigfoot...I am hoping they did not die out yet but again if they didn't maybe they are best left to myth so we don't destroy them. AGain I would love to see one of them..of course not up close and personal...LOL...Thanks for your post. Searching and open here. :)
Dr. Melba Ketchum update: I thought we would be finished in a few weeks, but instead, Sasquatch threw us curve balls even with their DNA which can be as elusive as they are.We are past that! As a result, we have assembled a renowned team, each of us with our own specialties to make this project "extraordinary".If everyone will hang in there, I promise it will be worth the wait. We have the proof, now just give us the opportunity to present it in a form that will even convince skeptics.
@XBattleDude Again I sit back and wait for more than either the Patterson film or the Bob H.s claims..there should be if these creatures still exist. Sorry for the babbling...open but skeptical....people and hoaxers are clever and brilliant a lot...usually to our surprise. Thanks for your post though. :)
@XBattleDude Again could any objective person expect Bob H. to walk and appear they way it was down 40 years ago? I did see pics of Mr. H. at the young age bracket and he had very muscular legs..football player type..It isn't hard for me to see him with his natural gait I have seen, and being a lot younger and in a tighter outfight to be the creature. But again why did it take him this long to talk? I know he was afraid of being sued for liable..and he did consult an attorney before talking.
@1927Norma Because Bob H is jealous of Roger P's fame End of story . He said phill morris made the suit and yet phill morris's re-make is soooo laughable as you can see here .
@XBattleDude I do believe people from all views are trying to read way too much into this film..with all the motion detected camera and such we should catch one of these without the Roger P. film anyway. But Ihave a hard time discounting Bob H.s claims...he had a glass right eye and MK Davis's (who did a GREAT job of slowing the film down and believes its real) showed a srange glare in the right pic (head shot) of the sasquatch. Srange cooincendence?? Maybe.
@XBattleDude I would really love the Patterson film to be real...truly...even if it were a hoax that does'nt mean these animals aren't real. But Roger P. was sadly a guy who tried to get into country western music then makes his own films...also was a very very talented leather maker making his own saddles..(who does that today)? I coulde see him altering a costume or using it as a prototype and with his talents making it more believable and the film being grainy and shakey.
IN all fairness even if he were he would have been a more stealth man 40 some odd years ago...but his natural gait does seem very like the walk in the patterson film and he knew Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin and photos are there to prove that so don't discount Bob H...he could be a liar but he may not be too...his walk is very similar so it leaves me with doubt...even if the Patterson film were a complete hoax..that doesn't mean this creatures aren't real.
The bulge is obviously on Patty as it's in every print, so it's on her body. By the way, I just love this red suit, it's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. lol Can't believe people out there fall for BobH and Morris' utter boloney. I hate to say it, but those two guys are actually smarter even than the geeks they have believing in them.
@retrobloke78 , i told you to ask gilbert , there was a discussion on the feet and gilbert has found a frame where he actually counted the toes.. cos he was comparing it to the foot cast.. i dont know where he saw this frame but if you ask him he will tell you... also the leg bulge , you say its keys , he said its film distortion in one of the frames ..i think he got that from a bill munns quote
Yes, it most definitely does. How anybody can doubt the realness of PGF is beyond me, they really must be lifeless trolls asking for trouble. BobH is making a fool of himself here, parading in this red suit, so people really must be desperate to think PGF is fake. This Morris suit I wouldn't even give away on Halloween, it's simply garbage, along with the silly hoax claims. Isn't it interesting anyway, the only bigfootage that looks real is the stuff deemed real by experts.
Yep, there's no question the PGF's real. Too bad the world is littered with denying geeks, but I do love how many of us are so much smarter than they are. :-]
that is embarrassing to think that this velvet Elvis bigfoot costume explains the PG film. ... Torso too short, thighs too short for thigh:calf ratio, upper arm to forearm ration if off, and on and on ... Can't really make someones torso much longer unless you pop his effin head off and reattach higher up.
Most skeptics around here aren't really that, they're deniers. You can show or tell them anything, from expert facts by the likes of Chilcutt (whose even a primate fingerprint expert) to Munns, etc. Some folks just don't want to hear anything that'll shake their fixed views, it's equivalent to the old worlders and their flat Earth theory. lol All Hollywood BF suits terrible for good reasons; they know next to nothing about the BF subject, and think tall guys make it. That's why they look fake.
Looks real because it is most likely real. Well, it's even been proven so now several times, yet a bunch of skeptics around here think it's fun to trust themselves more than experts and scientists. We can tell or show them anything, any expert from Chilcutt (whose even a primate fingerprint expert) to Munns, etc. But noooo, the geeky deniers won't hear of it, nothing must destroy their fixed dream that iit's fake and BFs don't or can't exist. lol Yet Hollywood suits look awful compared to this.
@retrobloke78 Show you? SHOW you? Watch the video...unless you lack any ability to observe something as basic as the back and shoulder muscles shifting as it moves, watching the video should suffice. I'm not saying it was real - it well could have been a hoax - I'm just saying that if it is, it's the best suit ever produced - every single other 'bigfoot' video looks exactly like a guy in a baggy monkey suit-this one actually looks solid.
I guess that after years of construction and thousands of dollars they decided it would be best to use the Spongebob Squarepants disposable camera they got in a kids meal at McDonald's. Brilliant !!!!
Chewie's muscles... Love to hear more about that too. lol The reason retro won't go into any details there, is because no details can be found. Chewie share a lot with HarryH, same type of longhaired undefined longlegged geezer costume, I can only repeat what we already know; they look that way because it's the only way for some tall stunt dude to portray a BF in Hollywood movies. based on Tinseltown's limited konowledge on the 'beast' they're trying to portray, coupled with lacking technology.
@komodoman How lucky was Patterson!!?? All of the special fx men who helped him with the suit took the secrets to their graves without so much as a word...oh yes...the skeptics will maintain that they were all fearful of prosecution, ipso facto the silence...riiiiight...
@joeyvader I guess after having a checkered past that included warrants for your arrest, knowing and working with every single person involved and after being unable to find any more funding for your fictional movie, you just happen with your last minute of film come across a female bigfoot that matches the drawings in your very own published bigfoot book. While the horse your partner is riding happens to be owned by the whistle blower Bob H. I mean really what are the odds?? He indeed was lucky
@ffmcmav40 Lucky indeed to have found Heronimus! I mean even after Patterson screwed him over for his $!,000 to wear the suit, good ole Bob kept quiet, when he could have spilled the beans any time! Even after Patterson sold the film clip to documentary producers, and toured with the film, good ole Bob, still screwed out of HIS share of the proceeds, remained quite...decade after decade after decade...what a gent he is...
Patterson's drawings have NO resemblance to the subject in the film..his rendition of a sasquatch has a hair fringe of bangs.....does the subject in the film? Google his drawings and you will see that the only resemblance lies in the fact that they are both hairy and bipedal...the simlilarities end there...he drew males too, by the way..
Ha, there's damn muscle movement all over Patty's body...that the Bigfoot denying trolls pretend they're the only ones that can't see it, really hammers it home how silly and boring things must be for them...
WE are thick as shit? Who's got their economy in a toilet right now??? It sure isn't us idiot!! According to ALL stats we make more money, take longer and better vacations than Americans, and a simple illness won't throw us into financial ruin...yep...sure is terrible here in Canada!!
@retrobloke78 How can any person that's NOT retarded believe that this fat goof looks anything like the Patterson footage?? Oops...I forgot...you ARE retarded...
Peter Mayhew IS over 7 feet tall...met him last year in Toronto..I NEVER made ANY height mention of the Patterson subject did I?? There's NO muscle movement seen on Chewie...watch AP BIgfoot and listen to the Head of Hensons Shop...oh wait...I forgot...you don't count HIM as an fx expert cuz...well..(listen to THIS LOGIC) their studio ISN'T in Hollywood...ipso facto he ISN'T a HOLLYWOOD fx expert..his work may receive multiple Oscars, but he isn't qualified to comment based on his zip code!!!
@retrobloke78 There's muscle movement seen on Stuart Freebornes Chewie suit?? I must have miissed that all these years!! ..which scenes can Peter Mayhews muscles be seen moving under the suit??
If you mention any fx expert, you get Stan Winston's sound byte 'it's a bad hair suit." Winstons analysis of the subject was watching a 4th generation copy of the film..that's it...NO analysis done at all..Burke and Munns have spent time looking at a 1st gen copy of the film from Patterson's widow....when any fx experts scrutinize the film, they come away more confused the closer they look...
to retrobloke78: EXACTLY! Hollywood can't make a suit that good! Nowadays they use computer generation. This video looks so fake! And ddi you notice how we don't see him walking? Just shots of him. Wonder why? Because it obviously looked so fake they knew it wouldn't fool anybody so we got the still shots. Why didn't they go back to the place where Patterson filmed Bigfoot? Answer: because then we could see what size he is in this suit. Bigfoot was 7'3" Is Bob in his fake suit? Answer: NO!
I don't want to argue about could it or couldn't it be made or this experts opinion, or whatever. What about all the circumstantial evidence about Patterson's book, the movie, Bob G on Bon H's horse, the entire town of Yakima's claims, connections to Hollywood, costume designers, pics of all the alleged people together, him being at bluff creek, etc the list goes on and on. Sure you can explain some of it away but all of it? Is everyone lying? I'll bet most people don't know the whole story.
I've never said that. It's probably real because of all the evidence is pointing in that direction, rather than the other outlandish excuse of it all being lies. An undiscovered unknown humanlike primate is more likely, than everything being fake or mistakes. I also don't think it's a big ape as such, I think they're people. That's what they are to the Indians too, nothing supernatural or beastly, but merely another race or tribe or whatever. Hairy giants. Make a cool band name, too.
actually i am very interested in this subject and even jane goodall says bigfoot could exist but i used to hope this was real but this was actually part of a film about hunting sasquatch theres even stills from the film showing patterson the heironomous brothers and gimlin in an indian wig they couldnt get funding so pretended to film the real thing patterson must be laughing up there !!
@Mr75littlebay Watch "AP BIgfoot" and hear what fx master Peter Burke has to say about the subject in the film....he's the head of Henson's Creature Shop..his team put the film (a 1st gen copy, not a 10th gen youtube copy) through the most detailed scrutiny ever done (unlike Stan Winston, who simply watched a fuzzy clip, and did NO analysis)...you may be surprised at what he has to say..and this is a man with all of the modern materials and supplies for creature manufacture at his disposal..
They couldn't get funding? Then I wonder how they must have been able to afford what would have been the most advanced and expensive suit in the world at that time to do this little "movie."
Err, if you think it's fake why don't you yourself move on instead of telling others what to do... By the way, it's real okay. We have seen no proof it's fake and the reason it's still being furiously debated is because its haters know they can't prove it fake. Rumors, wishful thinking and he said she said. 40+ years on and still no proof it's fake, only dreams. And before you go 'but 40 years and no Bigfoot', well, tell that line to a human(like) species not wanting to be found...
@komodoman So it's real because nobody can't prove it's fake? Nice logic there buddy. Truth is, that a big ape would've gone undiscovered on the north american continent is an extraordinary claim that also requires extraordinary evidence. A shaky, out of focus, badly exposed video shot at an unspecified frame rate in the sixties isn't enough. It would be cool if it was true, but in reality, there isn't much proof in either direction.
bigfoot might well exist i hope so but the patterson film is an obvious hoax theres stuff on here that puts it to bed once and for all believing patty is real is just embarrasing yourselves move on !!!!
u can never duplicate the arms of the real thing a mans arm just doesent bend that low if they showed u the whole video of this clow u could see even more how fake it looks..
@russclark5150: it's funny that everyone thinks this can be done with CGI and a guy in a well-made suit. These things didn't exist in the 60s. Heck, Jane Goodall was just getting to know Chimps at that time. We knew little of primates compared to now.
He can say all he wants but he does not move at all like Patty and the costume dosent look like the original at all! I believe the Patterson film is authentic and is the only real film of a Bigfoot. It is very rare to find a Bigfoot awake in the day, they are 98% nocturnal and sleep deep in the caves of the Pacific Northwest. The Redwoods footage is also real, although hard to see, the Bigfoot is awake at noght (nocturnal) and it was shot just 30 miles away from the PG film site.
first of all NO ONE had the technology or the intricate knowledge of animal physiology to create a realistic looking suit in 1967 so PG is authentic ..get over rumor and speculation and accept that
Just goes to show how mental illness effects all walks of life. I hope Bob's friends help him seek medical attention. Funny how he comes out of the closet decades later. Human nature in this technology/media driven society has helped create a denial driven mentality. These kind of people might have lacked attention from their parents when they were very young - who knows? What's next for the primitive stage of the brain.
why would anyone try to discredit a dead man fuckin no morals or what? may you be raped by a sasquatch while wearing that suit,And whatever god you pray to ignore your every prayer.
Pathetic attempt. Where are the swinging breasts and muscle movements of the legs? This modern costume can't even compare...now, who's really lying for $?
"One of the people who helped shape the Hieronimous story for the press is a notorious publicity scam-artist named Kal Korff -- a man described by national radio talk show host Art Bell as 'the most brazen media deceiver in the country'.
Read the actual evidence (links to new scientific research too) at w w w.bfro.net /news/korff_scam.asp
@lulupaloozatv Hey! Careful what you say about Kal K. Korff! He IS a Super-special-secret Colonel in the Super Special Secret Services, Super Secret Division - or something like that. And, apparently he has an I.Q. of 216! So, you can take EVERYTHING Korf says directly to the bank, my friend!
I find it really telling that in an effort to prove that he was the man in the suit, all they can reproduce is 5 very blurry still frames, from what was a staged event. The patterson footage was much better, which leads me to believe that clearer pictures and more of them, don't look as much like the original footage as we are lead to believe.
This video is proof that Morris did not make the suit. Here's a costume made with modern materials and technology, yet it looks pitiful compared to the actual PG footage. IF Morris had actually made a suit for the PG film, he'd be a master movie monster talent in Hollywood. Instead, he sells Halloween costumes in North Carolina.
This video is proof that Morris did NOT make the suit. Here's a costume made with modern materials and technology, yet it looks pitiful compared to the actual PG footage. IF Morris had actually made a suit for the PG film, he'd be a master movie monster talent in Hollywood. Instead, he sells Halloween costumes in North Carolina.
This video is proof that Morris did NOT make the suit. Here's a costume made with modern materials and technology, yet it looks pitiful compared to the actual PG footage. IF Morris had actually made a suit for the PG film, he'd be a master movie monster talent in Hollywood. Instead, he sells Halloween costumes in Charlotte, NC. Morris made "the costume"? Yeah, and Al Gore created the internet!
Yes, that's what all fakers do...bending the back and assuming the traditional 'ape position', the biggest faker of all is BobH pretending he's Patty and having a laugh about it down the local bar... More sad really that some are so desperate he's fooled them.
When you look at the actual Patterson film, the coat of fur looks like a real animal, not like this crappy suit he's wearing in this video, plus he's trying to hard to imitate the walk of the bigfoot in Patterson's film.
That was really pathetic. this suit was baggy, the animal in the Patterson/Gimlin film was muscular. in the P/G film, the animal's hair was of uneven length and color, just as you'd expect on a real animal, on the suit, it was the same color, consistency, and length across the whole thing, like on a suit. Heronimus said that the suit was identical to the P/G film. HA! He's trying too hard on the walk too. The leg movement is completely different, and he's stiffly swinging his arms like a fool.
@FLASH1080wxjc That's so NO comparison can be made between his gait and the Patterson's subject's gait...why IS Blob Heironimus so afraid to show us a FILM of him waddling in his furry fat suit??? hmmmm.
Bob H has pretty much been proven to be an imposter. He claims that he was offered $1,000 to wear a suit, which back in those days would equate to roughly $8,500. Why would Patterson need to pay a whopping $8,500 just to get someone to do this? Hell I bet most people would do it just for $25 and a case of beer. Secondly, he claims he admitted it was him nearly 40 years after it happened, because he never got paid...don't you think he would have come out much sooner, if Roger died in 1972??
Now nasty's acting smart but saying the lines of eminbozo. Not smart. Even if, and it's clearly not, even if it's a money scheme it's still not something anyone's promoted you to pass judgement and 'educate' on. lol What is it with people, because they can't understand this is no fake they come aLong and make up all sorts of stuff to calm the Joes. Promote a film that never happened? Nonsense. Ivan Marx' Bigfoot looks silly compared. What happened was, Roger got lucky and filmed the real thing.
HoboJoe here is just another eminaz troll, he's writing the exact same rehearsed drivel on other clips... BobH has no Patty gait other than what he's picked up from years of rehearsing before going public to pose for the press... lol -Patty has that typical rolling hip/thigh gait you see in the great apes - humans can't do it due to anatomy. Which is also why 'hoax' front guy BobH is like any other lame guy; too short waist up, can't reach the arms or no eminbozo promoted Chang mask, etc. lol
BobH was in reel 2 of the Patterson film/documentary he was making (see Patterson-Gimlin film on Wikipedia). Combine that with the classic gait of BobH and, guess what, he's your Bigfoot. The fur looks synthetic/shiny, the eyes have a cutout appearance and no mouth. Anyone believing this is real after all these years is HI-larious!!! It's about probability folks...all of the above combined with Patterson going out planning to shoot a Bigfoot, and golly-gee, he does just that. Whatever! LOL
@HoboJoe1416 Peter Burke from Jim Henson's Creature shop said "I have no idea how they would have made this suit in 1967." Janos Prohaska, who made his living in primate suits said, 'If this is a suit, it's the BEST suit I have ever seen."...why is the suit inferior to Rick Bakers Kong suit made 10 years later, with major studio backing, lots of time for R and D, and some of the best fx men of their time working on it??
@HoboJoe1416 thumbs up for you..am sure the footers will read your post and call you some pathetic childish name though..It was all a money making scheme to promote the fictional film patterson had planned.Even down to it being female,as in the drawings roger drew previous to the footage ever being filmed.
@HoboJoe1416 Yes, it's no secret that Patterson was planning on making a bigfoot documentary film that included fictional roles played by 4 or 5 other actors including Bob H. Of course there is footage of Bob H in some of this film footage, but I challenge you to find a picture of Bob H in the woods with Gimlin and Patterson on the date of October 20, 1967, the day that this sighting actually took place.
cont' #3 Heey Bo'oob you sealed your lie with this awful video, I know it would be hard to tell the truth now that you are sooo deep into this lie, but I will help you, the truth will set you free...this is how you get out of the lie and still look good....tell everyone that you were lying about wearing the suit because you were really trying to protect Bigfoot, because he is real and the film is real, and you didn't want people hunting him down. reverse hoax, this is your way out, use it!
HEEEY BO'OOB NO# 3 where is the suit, hollywood wants to buy it, because they cannot duplicate it, Bob 4) you stated; that patterson/gimlin suited you up and sent you way ahead and than you had to wait for them to catch up and then signaled you to start walking....WHAT? how and why would you ride ahead of them in a suit, when it was only the three of you in the woods, if patterson planned this so-called great hoax WHY didn't he suit you up at the site, you are such a liar....continued
HEEEY BO'OOB.....you really want us to believe that you (a cowboy) agreed to wear a monkey suit in 1967 with BREAST...Really! here are the reasons why...and how I know that you are lying.1)men were men in 1967 and everything was About men in '67 so if patterson(a real cowboy) was going to fake a bigfoot, he would have made it a MALE Bigfoot, not Female with breast. 2) how tall are you '5 ft nothing, while the bigfoot on film has been measured at "7 ft 6' in, give or take a few inches.3 continued
This Morris suit is pretty much how bad gorilla suits looked in the past, we as a race are in the ultimate state of denial if we think suits then looked Patty-like...
This guy's an idiot!Gimlin/patterson were the only ones in bluff creek that day,10/20/67,that was the real deal that day.There has been no bigfoot suite/costume ever created to this day that can duplicate the natural movement and hair dispersment that patty represents on that film-it's the real deal.Hail to our heroes,bob and roger!
You are looking at the walk of a man 40 something years older than he would have been in 1967. I think everyone would be surprise is the walk were identical.
It's too funny when deniers call Patty a 'bad suit', supposedly made in secret by busy Hollywood top guys like Chambers & co., when in fact this silly Morris suit here - with living joke BobH inside - looks more like something that'd be used in the 60s/POTA than Patty does... Hah...
@komodoman ...yes...'bad hair suit'...how many of them use this term...ad naseum...thank Stan Winston for that term...'bad hair suit'..if he had said it was the best suit he had ever seen, then they would say, 'well...what does he know about primate anatomy...he's just an fx guy..'..
This looks more like those typical 'gorilla' suits from the 1930s/40s, remember those... -That weird idea they had back then of gorillas that didn't look like the real thing in any shape or form, but undefined and longhaired more like some kind of mutant ape creature! lol This Morris suit would fit right in somewhere between stars like Abbott & Costello or Bela Lugosi.
Don't look anything like the Patty film. Not even close! You can see the suit fabric bulging in the stomach area! Plus to fake the Patty , you would at least have the breast in place! Plus this guy left no foot prints. He would have to be 850 lbs plus to make that type of impression in the Patty film! It can't be duplicated!
What I dont get is why this guy Heironimus stayed quiet for over 35 yrs after somebody stiffed him out of $1000!!! If i was asked to "do the deed" and walk in the suit to be filmed. And then the guy DOES NOT pay me and he goes on all the talk shows and everything at that time at gets all the fame...i would be calling a news conference to call him and gimlim out as a couple of frauds. The only fraud here is Bob H. saying he is the guy in the suit.
This "Bob H." fella has certainly been around! For centuries and all over the world! Leaving out the several names in the USA; Here are a few of his other names: Almas, Amomongo, Ban-manush, Barmanou, Batutut, Bigfoot, Chuchunya, Fear liath, Hibagon, Mande Barung, Mapinguari, Momo, Nuk-luk, Orang Mawas, Orang Pendek, Yeren, Yowie.
I love reading about your dreams, seymour... Bottom line is, you just don't know whether we have found proof or not, and I'm beginning to think it might be a good idea you don't know because none of you hobby skeptics seem ready for it... Same with flying saucers...
Komo Bigfoot has indeed been investigated by various groups,some scientific,at various times over the years and all of them combined has produced exactly ZERO evidence of Bigfoot. ZERO.where do we go from zero? Keep beating a dead horse? The moon is the only place left Bigfoot could be cause he aint and never was on Earth.
Just saying we should look at home first, find what's here before going all nuts in outer space... It's strange to me all these 'diversions' away from this domestic subject we're taking, wtf do we want in outer space when we can't even run this place... Yeah, our famed curiousty, exploring new frontiers, etc. Oops, same thing bigfooters are doing.
Well there's a lot of things that science could spend an eternity on earth looking for, but things that are undoubtably there have to take right of place over things that might not be there.
You're clueless gilly, naively so. It's completely nuts for a nation not to investigate a century old legend, it's not mass hysteria or lies/mistakes as skeptics prefer but likely something real when so many people have reported encounters. Utterly unscientific not to care, if you flew to the Moon how come you won't go look for another possible biped primate in your own backyard... Makes absolutely no sense, so don't give me the 'science wants facts' jive. Facts you look for, and facts you find.
You're saying i'm clueless because i think the notion of science investigating an old legend is stupid? Thats ironic isn't it? Flying to the moon is sensible, we know its there, we see it every night, haha, go there and have a look. You're comparing travelling to the moon to looking for a (in your own words) "old legend." Yeah, I'M naive.
This so-called American legend is old enough, and really ought to be important enough, to warrant huge elaborate university expeditions and whatnot to go look and get to the bottom of it. If these hairy folks are out there, pretty sure they are, then they will be found officially too - unofficially they already are. People see them, over history they've been encountered, there's bound to be something to it. It's not even isolated to the US alone, other countries have similar biped primates.
Other countries also have similar religions, legends, songs, traits..... that says more about us as a race, not about bigfoot. Nearly every European country has a werewolf, but they cetainly don't exist.
Mildly curious is enough for you? It shouldn't be for them though, it's very unscientific to show little or no interest in even the slimmest chance US forests and mountain ranges house an unknown species of bipedal primates. For Pete's sake, what else could get them off their asses if not that? These goons ought to go combing the whole PNW over starting tomorrow. If they really wanted to they could but unfortunately they don't, it's only few of us who really want to know...
@komodoman The smartest, thought provoking,intelligent comment Ive heard all day...we need more conscious people like your self. we get no where when we take a very bias approach to the matter.
No, its not, because science requires more than hoaxing and stories to make it sit up and take notice, otherwise it would be wasting its time with every paranormal event in the world, as well as all of the cryptids it can shake a stick at. Its unscientific to spend time on something that may or may not be there. If there is stronger proof then fair enough, spend a little time looking into it, right now all we have is dubious evidence. There's dubious evidence for lots of things.
Fleet of experts? Please Komo share just of few names of this fleet of scientists who think Bigfoot is real. Krantz was buddies with Patterson and Meldrum has been caught making false claims about PGF---now who else you got?
BobH is just a guy jealous of Roger and Bob having seen the real thing and he didn't, that's all this is about. An old grudge, and he became an easy target for Long's claws of cool cash. These gullible tabloid suckers are the easiest, ClassicD, they'll rather trust 15-minuters like that out to make a buck than the fleet of experts by now saying the film's no fake and these hairy folks really are out there... So be it, wrong bet is all there is to it.
now you no why there's a joker in the deck of card's...ever notice back in the mid evil times the kings all ways had this little thing jumping about...well they still use them... the debunkers,are jesters...it's like a freaken joke the shit they come up with as a debunking tool...and the so called scientist wont touch it, because they're told not to through threats and intimidation...they have more control over the scientific community then zoo animals...just take 911for instance...
What is your problem with debunkers? haha, jesters? The same could be said for believers who blindly follow even when there's no evidence at all. Bigfoot is about as possible as anything else, but i see nothing to suggest that a race of elusive giants are living in north America constantly and cleverly eluding science.
@GilbertSyndrome Could it be science is eluding Bigfoot ...let me ask you a hypothetical question... you and your girl friend live together, your off trying to debunk... some bullshit, it doesn't matter to a debunker... OK, you come home and your toilet seat is raised; would you ignore it or would you know for a fact some dude has been in your house...?if science can ignore building 7 they will ignore any thing.
Science has to elude bigfoot because its busy with more important matters, if bigfoot is there then science can't elude it, right now though... its 2010 and all we have is thousands of footprints which may or may not belong to a possible bigfoot which may or may not actually exist, blurry photo's and audio wailing and a film that is so uncertain that the world remains undecided on its validity, i can forgive science for not really caring about this 7-10 foot ghost.
..and curing disease's or at least attempting to, bettering our knowledge of the world around us, improving our health or at least trying to. Science should be about improving our quality of life and our knowledge about whats going on, not looking for things that may or may not be there. I'm all for discovery, but bigfoots cup runneth over.
@GilbertSyndrome Agreed...but try to imagine how important the discovery of a new primate, on the North American continent would be!! ...a primate that may well prove to be our closest genetic relative...
It'd be a great discovery, better than discovering a new type of mineral in the sea, thats for sure. But how much time is too much time when the results aren't coming in? I have no problem with people wanting to fund their own research, but governments have enough money to pass around as it is, i don't think science should be paying for the discovery of bigfoot, i think thats an independent thing.
@GilbertSyndrome I think it always has been up to the researchers to fund their own research...Krantz paid for all of his trips and time spent out of his own pocket..as far as I know there has never been Gov't funding for any researchers...
I didn't think the had been many government funded trips, but i don't think there should be, thats why i don't think science needs to get behind this hunt, what more can they do? If some tangible evidence turns up then they'll have to listen and look, but otherwise science remains mildly curious and thats it.
I don't care what they say, Bigfoot is real, and this loser seeking attention won't EVER change the way I think. He is simply a person who is to lazy to actually get famous. Bob probably isn't even his name!
Meldrum & co. are myths...? News to me. Don't ignore there aren't too many scientists that have done it with PGF, besides the known names, Bigfoot's a topic only the brave dare examine. Very much a 'fuck you' attitude to conventions is required. Also remember, most did in fact go into this with no preconceived notions, Paulides, Munns, etc. It was just fantasy - until researched and examined.
Komo once again I ask you to provide us with individuals or institutions who have examined the Patterson film and claimed it was a real creature? You keep trotting out this worn out' bigfoot is real say the experts'myth but always fail to provide any proof. Like the bigfoot myth itself this expert myth is also devoid of any proof.
seymourbabble, skeptics like eminbozo sure hang in there...to no avail of course. The footage has been thoroughly gone over, many times now in fact, and not once has any sign of hoaxing ever been noticed. The closest to that would be, when one examination concluded it inconclusive as proof of either real or hoax. Most study finds it authentic footage of a genuine so-called Sasquatch.
Bob H. is a sad individual seeking attention. If you measure the limb ratios of the PGF to this vid, you can see there is no possibility of matching each limb. The lower legs are too short. The distance from the hips to the shoulders doesn't match. The shoulders are out of proportion.
If Patterson allegedly would pay Bob H. to perpetrate the hoax, where would an ex-Rodeo cowboy find $1000? Even in 1967, that was a lot of money.
@mysighting they thought they were gonna get helllla rich of the film but they didn't so they couldn't pay him so he waited till he was dead and made up this story to get some publicity and cash 0-0
Who says anyway we haven't found them? I'm sure we have. We have sightings for one thing, good DNA now even, and the high likelihood of knowledge already treated with silence from authorities.
reclaimerReclaimer 1 month ago
@eminboztepe Quick LOOK its Bob H in a bigfoot suit WHAT A MATCH LOL ,*waits for the rant about chambers and patterson altering the suit * and how it was not Phillio Morris blah blah blah BULLSHIT
suitsyouDesign64 1 month ago 5
This is the best they can come up with???
rmcdaniel423 1 month ago
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There is an army of hoaxers all coordinated together over many many generations that have a preconceived plan to make a natural size distribution of footprints that all show certain similarities such as aspect ratios and dynamic signatures that interact with the correct shear forces on a given type of soil to form such footprints, often at large pace lengths and showing dermal ridges and scars at times. The hoaxers have the time, energy, money, sophistication, dedication, and means of access.
rockstarzep 2 months ago
Way different is creature fomr the Patterson movie,there you can actually see structure of the muscles,and it cant be faked.
Regzus 2 months ago 2
@Regzus cant be faked? the only people who tried had a 500$ budget on the suit... and there is no muscles moving under the skin whatsoever in the patterson footage.. you must be another moron fooled by that fucking retarded tv show... you need to learn its a show.. bigfoot shows bring in a lot of money so if they debunk it theres no more money =( ... if you look at still photos of this "creature" on google its the shittiest suit ever... shiny fur,no ass crack, wrong face and head...
RcUniverseGuy 1 month ago
@RcUniverseGuy
You answered on every positive coment about this :).
If youre a sceptic,you dont have to put your opinion on somone else.
I started to search about BF,that was 10 yrs ago.And I have my own thoughts bout it,an you cant cnahge it,how ever stupid you are.
SO if you dont believe in something,keep your thoughts for yourself.
Regzus 1 month ago
@RcUniverseGuy Someone's angry.
byakuya600 3 weeks ago
Yep, Morris I think is simply jealous of Chambers or something, he wants his name connected to it. Truth is, none of them had anything to do with it since anatomy proves Patty to be a real creature, whatever it is that a Bigfoot is. Real flesh and blood she was, there's little doubt of that. You can see the exact same gait when you watch the Marble Mountain video; too tall and bulky to fake, arms swinging, legs, everything. Absolutely real Sasquatch beings, both of them, no doubt about it.
reclaimerReclaimer 2 months ago 5
@reclaimerReclaimer Your so fucking crazy that it makes me crazy.... Thats really crazy.. If you can't tell its fake just by watching 2 seconds of the patterson film your head is so far up your ass its insane.. We have footage of the most elusive animals in the world animals that you have to travel to the end of the earth to find... Including insects that cant be seen with the naked eye.. But we cant film a 9 foot monkey in our backyard? or get it on satellite imagery?
RcUniverseGuy 1 month ago
@RcUniverseGuy Get out of here, freak. Not my problem you don't want to see this, but rest assured you soon shall see more proof. 'Only have 500$' lol You realize what that would mean in 1967's money? Today day we have materials they didn't then and we still can't. You don't seem to grasp this anatomy deal, it's the one crucial point why your little skeptic dream of a suit has exploded in your own faces now. Not then and not now, do you know the build of these beings means we can't recreate it.
reclaimerReclaimer 1 month ago
Just look at the lack of Muscle movement this clearly proves they were not involved
LeebeKing 2 months ago
@XBattleDude I agree...love Monster Quest and Searching for Bigfoot...I am hoping they did not die out yet but again if they didn't maybe they are best left to myth so we don't destroy them. AGain I would love to see one of them..of course not up close and personal...LOL...Thanks for your post. Searching and open here. :)
1927Norma 2 months ago
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Dr. Melba Ketchum update: I thought we would be finished in a few weeks, but instead, Sasquatch threw us curve balls even with their DNA which can be as elusive as they are.We are past that! As a result, we have assembled a renowned team, each of us with our own specialties to make this project "extraordinary".If everyone will hang in there, I promise it will be worth the wait. We have the proof, now just give us the opportunity to present it in a form that will even convince skeptics.
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@XBattleDude Yeah its fake, but a good one! People like Matt moneymaker are just after that MONEY and Ratings!
5tonyvvvv 2 months ago
@XBattleDude Again I sit back and wait for more than either the Patterson film or the Bob H.s claims..there should be if these creatures still exist. Sorry for the babbling...open but skeptical....people and hoaxers are clever and brilliant a lot...usually to our surprise. Thanks for your post though. :)
1927Norma 2 months ago
@XBattleDude Again could any objective person expect Bob H. to walk and appear they way it was down 40 years ago? I did see pics of Mr. H. at the young age bracket and he had very muscular legs..football player type..It isn't hard for me to see him with his natural gait I have seen, and being a lot younger and in a tighter outfight to be the creature. But again why did it take him this long to talk? I know he was afraid of being sued for liable..and he did consult an attorney before talking.
1927Norma 2 months ago
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@1927Norma Yeah its fake, but a good one! People like Matt moneymaker are just after that MONEY and Ratings!
5tonyvvvv 2 months ago
@1927Norma Because Bob H is jealous of Roger P's fame End of story . He said phill morris made the suit and yet phill morris's re-make is soooo laughable as you can see here .
LeebeKing 2 months ago 4
@XBattleDude I do believe people from all views are trying to read way too much into this film..with all the motion detected camera and such we should catch one of these without the Roger P. film anyway. But Ihave a hard time discounting Bob H.s claims...he had a glass right eye and MK Davis's (who did a GREAT job of slowing the film down and believes its real) showed a srange glare in the right pic (head shot) of the sasquatch. Srange cooincendence?? Maybe.
1927Norma 2 months ago
@XBattleDude I would really love the Patterson film to be real...truly...even if it were a hoax that does'nt mean these animals aren't real. But Roger P. was sadly a guy who tried to get into country western music then makes his own films...also was a very very talented leather maker making his own saddles..(who does that today)? I coulde see him altering a costume or using it as a prototype and with his talents making it more believable and the film being grainy and shakey.
1927Norma 2 months ago
@1927Norma when did roger try to get into country music?i never heard that one
SuperTestfreak 2 months ago
IN all fairness even if he were he would have been a more stealth man 40 some odd years ago...but his natural gait does seem very like the walk in the patterson film and he knew Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin and photos are there to prove that so don't discount Bob H...he could be a liar but he may not be too...his walk is very similar so it leaves me with doubt...even if the Patterson film were a complete hoax..that doesn't mean this creatures aren't real.
1927Norma 2 months ago
@retrobloke78 its wwe nowadays,just though i would throw that in lol
SuperTestfreak 3 months ago
The bulge is obviously on Patty as it's in every print, so it's on her body. By the way, I just love this red suit, it's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. lol Can't believe people out there fall for BobH and Morris' utter boloney. I hate to say it, but those two guys are actually smarter even than the geeks they have believing in them.
reclaimerReclaimer 3 months ago
@retrobloke78 , i told you to ask gilbert , there was a discussion on the feet and gilbert has found a frame where he actually counted the toes.. cos he was comparing it to the foot cast.. i dont know where he saw this frame but if you ask him he will tell you... also the leg bulge , you say its keys , he said its film distortion in one of the frames ..i think he got that from a bill munns quote
Jrld11 3 months ago
@retrobloke78 , twat ? moi ? ask gilbert about the toes...are you a hulkamaniac ha ha you know something mean gene ....
Jrld11 3 months ago
@retrobloke78 , you wanted to see pttys toes , your hero gilbert counted the toes on pattys feet , ha ha ask him ...clown oooooh yeahhhh
Jrld11 3 months ago
Yes, it most definitely does. How anybody can doubt the realness of PGF is beyond me, they really must be lifeless trolls asking for trouble. BobH is making a fool of himself here, parading in this red suit, so people really must be desperate to think PGF is fake. This Morris suit I wouldn't even give away on Halloween, it's simply garbage, along with the silly hoax claims. Isn't it interesting anyway, the only bigfootage that looks real is the stuff deemed real by experts.
reclaimerReclaimer 3 months ago
this clip and leroy blevis prove the pg film is real
SuperTestfreak 3 months ago
Yep, there's no question the PGF's real. Too bad the world is littered with denying geeks, but I do love how many of us are so much smarter than they are. :-]
reclaimerReclaimer 3 months ago
looks absolutely nothing like the subject in the PG film.
what a joke.
if PG hoaxed the film, why in the hell would they have chosen
to make the subject a female ?
why go to all the trouble to try and duplicate female pendulus breasts ?
doesn't make any sense. the subject in the PG film is real.
ZebZachary 3 months ago
that is embarrassing to think that this velvet Elvis bigfoot costume explains the PG film. ... Torso too short, thighs too short for thigh:calf ratio, upper arm to forearm ration if off, and on and on ... Can't really make someones torso much longer unless you pop his effin head off and reattach higher up.
rntonp 4 months ago
Most skeptics around here aren't really that, they're deniers. You can show or tell them anything, from expert facts by the likes of Chilcutt (whose even a primate fingerprint expert) to Munns, etc. Some folks just don't want to hear anything that'll shake their fixed views, it's equivalent to the old worlders and their flat Earth theory. lol All Hollywood BF suits terrible for good reasons; they know next to nothing about the BF subject, and think tall guys make it. That's why they look fake.
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago 2
Looks real because it is most likely real. Well, it's even been proven so now several times, yet a bunch of skeptics around here think it's fun to trust themselves more than experts and scientists. We can tell or show them anything, any expert from Chilcutt (whose even a primate fingerprint expert) to Munns, etc. But noooo, the geeky deniers won't hear of it, nothing must destroy their fixed dream that iit's fake and BFs don't or can't exist. lol Yet Hollywood suits look awful compared to this.
reclaimerReclaimer 4 months ago
@retrobloke78 Show you? SHOW you? Watch the video...unless you lack any ability to observe something as basic as the back and shoulder muscles shifting as it moves, watching the video should suffice. I'm not saying it was real - it well could have been a hoax - I'm just saying that if it is, it's the best suit ever produced - every single other 'bigfoot' video looks exactly like a guy in a baggy monkey suit-this one actually looks solid.
sonbuhitsunei 4 months ago
I could buy a sponge bob square pants camera and it would still film better then Patterson's camera so I don't see the relevance in your argument.
ffmcmav40 4 months ago
I guess that after years of construction and thousands of dollars they decided it would be best to use the Spongebob Squarepants disposable camera they got in a kids meal at McDonald's. Brilliant !!!!
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ffmcmav40 5 months ago
thumbs up if you have hemorrhoids ...
kush997 5 months ago
'Facial movements on HarryH'... lol 1987 gadgets, yeah. Get real, eh. No wait, not likely since you're a troll, right...
komodoman 5 months ago
Chewie's muscles... Love to hear more about that too. lol The reason retro won't go into any details there, is because no details can be found. Chewie share a lot with HarryH, same type of longhaired undefined longlegged geezer costume, I can only repeat what we already know; they look that way because it's the only way for some tall stunt dude to portray a BF in Hollywood movies. based on Tinseltown's limited konowledge on the 'beast' they're trying to portray, coupled with lacking technology.
komodoman 5 months ago
@komodoman How lucky was Patterson!!?? All of the special fx men who helped him with the suit took the secrets to their graves without so much as a word...oh yes...the skeptics will maintain that they were all fearful of prosecution, ipso facto the silence...riiiiight...
joeyvader 4 months ago
@joeyvader I guess after having a checkered past that included warrants for your arrest, knowing and working with every single person involved and after being unable to find any more funding for your fictional movie, you just happen with your last minute of film come across a female bigfoot that matches the drawings in your very own published bigfoot book. While the horse your partner is riding happens to be owned by the whistle blower Bob H. I mean really what are the odds?? He indeed was lucky
ffmcmav40 4 months ago
@ffmcmav40 Lucky indeed to have found Heronimus! I mean even after Patterson screwed him over for his $!,000 to wear the suit, good ole Bob kept quiet, when he could have spilled the beans any time! Even after Patterson sold the film clip to documentary producers, and toured with the film, good ole Bob, still screwed out of HIS share of the proceeds, remained quite...decade after decade after decade...what a gent he is...
joeyvader 4 months ago
Patterson's drawings have NO resemblance to the subject in the film..his rendition of a sasquatch has a hair fringe of bangs.....does the subject in the film? Google his drawings and you will see that the only resemblance lies in the fact that they are both hairy and bipedal...the simlilarities end there...he drew males too, by the way..
joeyvader 4 months ago
Ha, there's damn muscle movement all over Patty's body...that the Bigfoot denying trolls pretend they're the only ones that can't see it, really hammers it home how silly and boring things must be for them...
komodoman 5 months ago
cretin, dimwit, dork, dumbbell, dunce, fool, ignoramus, imbecile, moron, muttonhead, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, simpleton, dullard.
joeyvader 5 months ago 2
WE are thick as shit? Who's got their economy in a toilet right now??? It sure isn't us idiot!! According to ALL stats we make more money, take longer and better vacations than Americans, and a simple illness won't throw us into financial ruin...yep...sure is terrible here in Canada!!
joeyvader 5 months ago
@retrobloke78 How can any person that's NOT retarded believe that this fat goof looks anything like the Patterson footage?? Oops...I forgot...you ARE retarded...
joeyvader 5 months ago 3
Peter Mayhew IS over 7 feet tall...met him last year in Toronto..I NEVER made ANY height mention of the Patterson subject did I?? There's NO muscle movement seen on Chewie...watch AP BIgfoot and listen to the Head of Hensons Shop...oh wait...I forgot...you don't count HIM as an fx expert cuz...well..(listen to THIS LOGIC) their studio ISN'T in Hollywood...ipso facto he ISN'T a HOLLYWOOD fx expert..his work may receive multiple Oscars, but he isn't qualified to comment based on his zip code!!!
joeyvader 5 months ago 3
@retrobloke78 There's muscle movement seen on Stuart Freebornes Chewie suit?? I must have miissed that all these years!! ..which scenes can Peter Mayhews muscles be seen moving under the suit??
joeyvader 5 months ago
If you mention any fx expert, you get Stan Winston's sound byte 'it's a bad hair suit." Winstons analysis of the subject was watching a 4th generation copy of the film..that's it...NO analysis done at all..Burke and Munns have spent time looking at a 1st gen copy of the film from Patterson's widow....when any fx experts scrutinize the film, they come away more confused the closer they look...
joeyvader 5 months ago
to retrobloke78: EXACTLY! Hollywood can't make a suit that good! Nowadays they use computer generation. This video looks so fake! And ddi you notice how we don't see him walking? Just shots of him. Wonder why? Because it obviously looked so fake they knew it wouldn't fool anybody so we got the still shots. Why didn't they go back to the place where Patterson filmed Bigfoot? Answer: because then we could see what size he is in this suit. Bigfoot was 7'3" Is Bob in his fake suit? Answer: NO!
morjek 5 months ago
I don't want to argue about could it or couldn't it be made or this experts opinion, or whatever. What about all the circumstantial evidence about Patterson's book, the movie, Bob G on Bon H's horse, the entire town of Yakima's claims, connections to Hollywood, costume designers, pics of all the alleged people together, him being at bluff creek, etc the list goes on and on. Sure you can explain some of it away but all of it? Is everyone lying? I'll bet most people don't know the whole story.
ffmcmav40 5 months ago
Maybe you should ask new questions then, instead of the same one every day...
komodoman 5 months ago
You keep asking dumb troll questions like that again, retro, and I'll stop talking to ya...haha...
komodoman 5 months ago
I've never said that. It's probably real because of all the evidence is pointing in that direction, rather than the other outlandish excuse of it all being lies. An undiscovered unknown humanlike primate is more likely, than everything being fake or mistakes. I also don't think it's a big ape as such, I think they're people. That's what they are to the Indians too, nothing supernatural or beastly, but merely another race or tribe or whatever. Hairy giants. Make a cool band name, too.
komodoman 6 months ago
@retrobloke78 LOL
skyerflyer 7 months ago
What a big fat dip shit. This looks nothing like the suit he wore in 1967. LOL
skyerflyer 7 months ago 15
actually i am very interested in this subject and even jane goodall says bigfoot could exist but i used to hope this was real but this was actually part of a film about hunting sasquatch theres even stills from the film showing patterson the heironomous brothers and gimlin in an indian wig they couldnt get funding so pretended to film the real thing patterson must be laughing up there !!
Mr75littlebay 7 months ago
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joeyvader 7 months ago
@Mr75littlebay Watch "AP BIgfoot" and hear what fx master Peter Burke has to say about the subject in the film....he's the head of Henson's Creature Shop..his team put the film (a 1st gen copy, not a 10th gen youtube copy) through the most detailed scrutiny ever done (unlike Stan Winston, who simply watched a fuzzy clip, and did NO analysis)...you may be surprised at what he has to say..and this is a man with all of the modern materials and supplies for creature manufacture at his disposal..
joeyvader 7 months ago
@Mr75littlebay
They couldn't get funding? Then I wonder how they must have been able to afford what would have been the most advanced and expensive suit in the world at that time to do this little "movie."
kfbpro22 7 months ago 2
Err, if you think it's fake why don't you yourself move on instead of telling others what to do... By the way, it's real okay. We have seen no proof it's fake and the reason it's still being furiously debated is because its haters know they can't prove it fake. Rumors, wishful thinking and he said she said. 40+ years on and still no proof it's fake, only dreams. And before you go 'but 40 years and no Bigfoot', well, tell that line to a human(like) species not wanting to be found...
komodoman 7 months ago
@komodoman So it's real because nobody can't prove it's fake? Nice logic there buddy. Truth is, that a big ape would've gone undiscovered on the north american continent is an extraordinary claim that also requires extraordinary evidence. A shaky, out of focus, badly exposed video shot at an unspecified frame rate in the sixties isn't enough. It would be cool if it was true, but in reality, there isn't much proof in either direction.
raizumichin 6 months ago
bigfoot might well exist i hope so but the patterson film is an obvious hoax theres stuff on here that puts it to bed once and for all believing patty is real is just embarrasing yourselves move on !!!!
Mr75littlebay 7 months ago in playlist BigFoot
u can never duplicate the arms of the real thing a mans arm just doesent bend that low if they showed u the whole video of this clow u could see even more how fake it looks..
dragonkeeperjoe81 8 months ago
@russclark5150: it's funny that everyone thinks this can be done with CGI and a guy in a well-made suit. These things didn't exist in the 60s. Heck, Jane Goodall was just getting to know Chimps at that time. We knew little of primates compared to now.
33Ozweldian 8 months ago 2
They can say what ever they want..He looks like ass in that stupid suit...
simpeable 8 months ago 2
He can say all he wants but he does not move at all like Patty and the costume dosent look like the original at all! I believe the Patterson film is authentic and is the only real film of a Bigfoot. It is very rare to find a Bigfoot awake in the day, they are 98% nocturnal and sleep deep in the caves of the Pacific Northwest. The Redwoods footage is also real, although hard to see, the Bigfoot is awake at noght (nocturnal) and it was shot just 30 miles away from the PG film site.
BigfootInternational 8 months ago 2
Looks like it's roller skating, lol.
str8tup 8 months ago 55
first of all NO ONE had the technology or the intricate knowledge of animal physiology to create a realistic looking suit in 1967 so PG is authentic ..get over rumor and speculation and accept that
russclark5150 8 months ago
Just goes to show how mental illness effects all walks of life. I hope Bob's friends help him seek medical attention. Funny how he comes out of the closet decades later. Human nature in this technology/media driven society has helped create a denial driven mentality. These kind of people might have lacked attention from their parents when they were very young - who knows? What's next for the primitive stage of the brain.
MrGreg433 8 months ago
Bob Hilarious!
joshuasmama35 8 months ago 3
why would anyone try to discredit a dead man fuckin no morals or what? may you be raped by a sasquatch while wearing that suit,And whatever god you pray to ignore your every prayer.
THESLICKNESSEDM 9 months ago
Kal and his wild imagination is the laughing stock of Bigfootry...
komodoman 9 months ago 3
This is the gorilla suit from Trading Places
Daysof77 9 months ago
Pathetic attempt. Where are the swinging breasts and muscle movements of the legs? This modern costume can't even compare...now, who's really lying for $?
"One of the people who helped shape the Hieronimous story for the press is a notorious publicity scam-artist named Kal Korff -- a man described by national radio talk show host Art Bell as 'the most brazen media deceiver in the country'.
Read the actual evidence (links to new scientific research too) at w w w.bfro.net /news/korff_scam.asp
lulupaloozatv 10 months ago 5
@lulupaloozatv Hey! Careful what you say about Kal K. Korff! He IS a Super-special-secret Colonel in the Super Special Secret Services, Super Secret Division - or something like that. And, apparently he has an I.Q. of 216! So, you can take EVERYTHING Korf says directly to the bank, my friend!
BloatedSensations 9 months ago
@BloatedSensations LOLOLOL!!!
lulupaloozatv 9 months ago
I find it really telling that in an effort to prove that he was the man in the suit, all they can reproduce is 5 very blurry still frames, from what was a staged event. The patterson footage was much better, which leads me to believe that clearer pictures and more of them, don't look as much like the original footage as we are lead to believe.
Craigmw45 10 months ago 5
bigfoot dance ???? lol
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dltanner99 10 months ago
thats obviously nothing remotely similar to the PG 'suit'.
NonLocalYokel 10 months ago 13
This video is proof that Morris did not make the suit. Here's a costume made with modern materials and technology, yet it looks pitiful compared to the actual PG footage. IF Morris had actually made a suit for the PG film, he'd be a master movie monster talent in Hollywood. Instead, he sells Halloween costumes in North Carolina.
WarriorPoet01 11 months ago 9
This video is proof that Morris did NOT make the suit. Here's a costume made with modern materials and technology, yet it looks pitiful compared to the actual PG footage. IF Morris had actually made a suit for the PG film, he'd be a master movie monster talent in Hollywood. Instead, he sells Halloween costumes in North Carolina.
WarriorPoet01 11 months ago
This video is proof that Morris did NOT make the suit. Here's a costume made with modern materials and technology, yet it looks pitiful compared to the actual PG footage. IF Morris had actually made a suit for the PG film, he'd be a master movie monster talent in Hollywood. Instead, he sells Halloween costumes in Charlotte, NC. Morris made "the costume"? Yeah, and Al Gore created the internet!
WarriorPoet01 11 months ago
Heh, apologies for using that old cliche' wording... ;-]
komodoman 11 months ago
Yes, that's what all fakers do...bending the back and assuming the traditional 'ape position', the biggest faker of all is BobH pretending he's Patty and having a laugh about it down the local bar... More sad really that some are so desperate he's fooled them.
komodoman 1 year ago
When you look at the actual Patterson film, the coat of fur looks like a real animal, not like this crappy suit he's wearing in this video, plus he's trying to hard to imitate the walk of the bigfoot in Patterson's film.
peteo100 1 year ago 2
That was really pathetic. this suit was baggy, the animal in the Patterson/Gimlin film was muscular. in the P/G film, the animal's hair was of uneven length and color, just as you'd expect on a real animal, on the suit, it was the same color, consistency, and length across the whole thing, like on a suit. Heronimus said that the suit was identical to the P/G film. HA! He's trying too hard on the walk too. The leg movement is completely different, and he's stiffly swinging his arms like a fool.
CyFiM 1 year ago 3
i like how you never showed it in a continuous motion. real evidence there
FLASH1080wxjc 1 year ago
@FLASH1080wxjc That's so NO comparison can be made between his gait and the Patterson's subject's gait...why IS Blob Heironimus so afraid to show us a FILM of him waddling in his furry fat suit??? hmmmm.
joeyvader 1 year ago
Bob H has pretty much been proven to be an imposter. He claims that he was offered $1,000 to wear a suit, which back in those days would equate to roughly $8,500. Why would Patterson need to pay a whopping $8,500 just to get someone to do this? Hell I bet most people would do it just for $25 and a case of beer. Secondly, he claims he admitted it was him nearly 40 years after it happened, because he never got paid...don't you think he would have come out much sooner, if Roger died in 1972??
VitalSigns1 1 year ago 2
Doesn't look like Patty
VitalSigns1 1 year ago 6
Now nasty's acting smart but saying the lines of eminbozo. Not smart. Even if, and it's clearly not, even if it's a money scheme it's still not something anyone's promoted you to pass judgement and 'educate' on. lol What is it with people, because they can't understand this is no fake they come aLong and make up all sorts of stuff to calm the Joes. Promote a film that never happened? Nonsense. Ivan Marx' Bigfoot looks silly compared. What happened was, Roger got lucky and filmed the real thing.
komodoman 1 year ago
@komodoman Calm the "Joes"???? Calm the "Joes"??? Why you!! As a man named Joe, I take high offence sir!! Good Day!!
joeyvader 11 months ago
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HoboJoe here is just another eminaz troll, he's writing the exact same rehearsed drivel on other clips... BobH has no Patty gait other than what he's picked up from years of rehearsing before going public to pose for the press... lol -Patty has that typical rolling hip/thigh gait you see in the great apes - humans can't do it due to anatomy. Which is also why 'hoax' front guy BobH is like any other lame guy; too short waist up, can't reach the arms or no eminbozo promoted Chang mask, etc. lol
komodoman 1 year ago 11
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BobH was in reel 2 of the Patterson film/documentary he was making (see Patterson-Gimlin film on Wikipedia). Combine that with the classic gait of BobH and, guess what, he's your Bigfoot. The fur looks synthetic/shiny, the eyes have a cutout appearance and no mouth. Anyone believing this is real after all these years is HI-larious!!! It's about probability folks...all of the above combined with Patterson going out planning to shoot a Bigfoot, and golly-gee, he does just that. Whatever! LOL
HoboJoe1416 1 year ago
@HoboJoe1416 hm..try watch american paranormal : bigfoot (1-5 parts) than u can come back and replay my comment..
perseuz855 1 year ago
@HoboJoe1416 sorry dood, the pat-gim footage is a real bigfoot. im a biologist and i know a real animal when i see one
CherryBooooomb 1 year ago 3
@CherryBooooomb
Thank you. I have seen them and can tell you that some day there will be many people eating crow for dinner.
richardritchey 1 year ago
@HoboJoe1416 Peter Burke from Jim Henson's Creature shop said "I have no idea how they would have made this suit in 1967." Janos Prohaska, who made his living in primate suits said, 'If this is a suit, it's the BEST suit I have ever seen."...why is the suit inferior to Rick Bakers Kong suit made 10 years later, with major studio backing, lots of time for R and D, and some of the best fx men of their time working on it??
joeyvader 1 year ago 2
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@HoboJoe1416 thumbs up for you..am sure the footers will read your post and call you some pathetic childish name though..It was all a money making scheme to promote the fictional film patterson had planned.Even down to it being female,as in the drawings roger drew previous to the footage ever being filmed.
nastymonsters1 1 year ago
@HoboJoe1416 Yes, it's no secret that Patterson was planning on making a bigfoot documentary film that included fictional roles played by 4 or 5 other actors including Bob H. Of course there is footage of Bob H in some of this film footage, but I challenge you to find a picture of Bob H in the woods with Gimlin and Patterson on the date of October 20, 1967, the day that this sighting actually took place.
VitalSigns1 1 year ago
cont' #3 Heey Bo'oob you sealed your lie with this awful video, I know it would be hard to tell the truth now that you are sooo deep into this lie, but I will help you, the truth will set you free...this is how you get out of the lie and still look good....tell everyone that you were lying about wearing the suit because you were really trying to protect Bigfoot, because he is real and the film is real, and you didn't want people hunting him down. reverse hoax, this is your way out, use it!
TheDrac3000 1 year ago
HEEEY BO'OOB NO# 3 where is the suit, hollywood wants to buy it, because they cannot duplicate it, Bob 4) you stated; that patterson/gimlin suited you up and sent you way ahead and than you had to wait for them to catch up and then signaled you to start walking....WHAT? how and why would you ride ahead of them in a suit, when it was only the three of you in the woods, if patterson planned this so-called great hoax WHY didn't he suit you up at the site, you are such a liar....continued
TheDrac3000 1 year ago
HEEEY BO'OOB.....you really want us to believe that you (a cowboy) agreed to wear a monkey suit in 1967 with BREAST...Really! here are the reasons why...and how I know that you are lying.1)men were men in 1967 and everything was About men in '67 so if patterson(a real cowboy) was going to fake a bigfoot, he would have made it a MALE Bigfoot, not Female with breast. 2) how tall are you '5 ft nothing, while the bigfoot on film has been measured at "7 ft 6' in, give or take a few inches.3 continued
TheDrac3000 1 year ago
This Morris suit is pretty much how bad gorilla suits looked in the past, we as a race are in the ultimate state of denial if we think suits then looked Patty-like...
komodoman 1 year ago
Laughable. Thank you, Bob, for proving once and for all that the Patterson creature was NOT you in a suit.
thez1g 1 year ago
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This guy's an idiot!Gimlin/patterson were the only ones in bluff creek that day,10/20/67,that was the real deal that day.There has been no bigfoot suite/costume ever created to this day that can duplicate the natural movement and hair dispersment that patty represents on that film-it's the real deal.Hail to our heroes,bob and roger!
joshuasmama35 1 year ago
You are looking at the walk of a man 40 something years older than he would have been in 1967. I think everyone would be surprise is the walk were identical.
DumDDumDum 1 year ago
does not look the same.. allot shorter
masterod1 1 year ago
does not look the same..
masterod1 1 year ago
All this proves is it was not Bob heironimus in a suit.
zombiedeath89 1 year ago
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It's too funny when deniers call Patty a 'bad suit', supposedly made in secret by busy Hollywood top guys like Chambers & co., when in fact this silly Morris suit here - with living joke BobH inside - looks more like something that'd be used in the 60s/POTA than Patty does... Hah...
komodoman 1 year ago 24
@komodoman ...yes...'bad hair suit'...how many of them use this term...ad naseum...thank Stan Winston for that term...'bad hair suit'..if he had said it was the best suit he had ever seen, then they would say, 'well...what does he know about primate anatomy...he's just an fx guy..'..
joeyvader 1 year ago
Bob Heironimus is a Ass Clown
This Doesn't look anything like Patty.
Xproject187 1 year ago
it really is him he confess a few days ago
theroyal99 1 year ago
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This looks more like those typical 'gorilla' suits from the 1930s/40s, remember those... -That weird idea they had back then of gorillas that didn't look like the real thing in any shape or form, but undefined and longhaired more like some kind of mutant ape creature! lol This Morris suit would fit right in somewhere between stars like Abbott & Costello or Bela Lugosi.
komodoman 1 year ago 9
they went through all that effort to recreate something and this CRAPPY 4 frames is what they come up with? seriously?
marcjtdc 1 year ago
THIS PROVEs it's real.
TheIMC8 1 year ago
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BobH in his infamous Bigfoot suit, doesn't look too convincing does it...
komodoman 1 year ago 10
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Don't look anything like the Patty film. Not even close! You can see the suit fabric bulging in the stomach area! Plus to fake the Patty , you would at least have the breast in place! Plus this guy left no foot prints. He would have to be 850 lbs plus to make that type of impression in the Patty film! It can't be duplicated!
phatdic11 1 year ago
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What I dont get is why this guy Heironimus stayed quiet for over 35 yrs after somebody stiffed him out of $1000!!! If i was asked to "do the deed" and walk in the suit to be filmed. And then the guy DOES NOT pay me and he goes on all the talk shows and everything at that time at gets all the fame...i would be calling a news conference to call him and gimlim out as a couple of frauds. The only fraud here is Bob H. saying he is the guy in the suit.
pergle673 1 year ago 5
hes just hurting his own case by putting that suit on ,its nothing like the creature in the film.
DaAlphaOmega 1 year ago
that's ridiculous! it looks nothing like the film!
guionlawes 1 year ago
he does not even walk like bigfoot in the flim.
thepatsnumber1fan 1 year ago 2
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This "Bob H." fella has certainly been around! For centuries and all over the world! Leaving out the several names in the USA; Here are a few of his other names: Almas, Amomongo, Ban-manush, Barmanou, Batutut, Bigfoot, Chuchunya, Fear liath, Hibagon, Mande Barung, Mapinguari, Momo, Nuk-luk, Orang Mawas, Orang Pendek, Yeren, Yowie.
m1aws 1 year ago
Major fail
m1aws 1 year ago 2
I love reading about your dreams, seymour... Bottom line is, you just don't know whether we have found proof or not, and I'm beginning to think it might be a good idea you don't know because none of you hobby skeptics seem ready for it... Same with flying saucers...
komodoman 1 year ago
Fat man in a bag.
Nice try.
m1aws 1 year ago
Komo Bigfoot has indeed been investigated by various groups,some scientific,at various times over the years and all of them combined has produced exactly ZERO evidence of Bigfoot. ZERO.where do we go from zero? Keep beating a dead horse? The moon is the only place left Bigfoot could be cause he aint and never was on Earth.
seymourbbest 1 year ago
An eternity on Earth? We haven't done that yet...
komodoman 1 year ago
what proof.. that is was not.. thanks
masterod1 1 year ago
Just saying we should look at home first, find what's here before going all nuts in outer space... It's strange to me all these 'diversions' away from this domestic subject we're taking, wtf do we want in outer space when we can't even run this place... Yeah, our famed curiousty, exploring new frontiers, etc. Oops, same thing bigfooters are doing.
komodoman 1 year ago
@komodoman
Well there's a lot of things that science could spend an eternity on earth looking for, but things that are undoubtably there have to take right of place over things that might not be there.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
You're clueless gilly, naively so. It's completely nuts for a nation not to investigate a century old legend, it's not mass hysteria or lies/mistakes as skeptics prefer but likely something real when so many people have reported encounters. Utterly unscientific not to care, if you flew to the Moon how come you won't go look for another possible biped primate in your own backyard... Makes absolutely no sense, so don't give me the 'science wants facts' jive. Facts you look for, and facts you find.
komodoman 1 year ago
@komodoman
You're saying i'm clueless because i think the notion of science investigating an old legend is stupid? Thats ironic isn't it? Flying to the moon is sensible, we know its there, we see it every night, haha, go there and have a look. You're comparing travelling to the moon to looking for a (in your own words) "old legend." Yeah, I'M naive.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
This so-called American legend is old enough, and really ought to be important enough, to warrant huge elaborate university expeditions and whatnot to go look and get to the bottom of it. If these hairy folks are out there, pretty sure they are, then they will be found officially too - unofficially they already are. People see them, over history they've been encountered, there's bound to be something to it. It's not even isolated to the US alone, other countries have similar biped primates.
komodoman 1 year ago
@komodoman
Other countries also have similar religions, legends, songs, traits..... that says more about us as a race, not about bigfoot. Nearly every European country has a werewolf, but they cetainly don't exist.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
Exactly, thanks mkc!
komodoman 1 year ago
Mildly curious is enough for you? It shouldn't be for them though, it's very unscientific to show little or no interest in even the slimmest chance US forests and mountain ranges house an unknown species of bipedal primates. For Pete's sake, what else could get them off their asses if not that? These goons ought to go combing the whole PNW over starting tomorrow. If they really wanted to they could but unfortunately they don't, it's only few of us who really want to know...
komodoman 1 year ago 2
@komodoman The smartest, thought provoking,intelligent comment Ive heard all day...we need more conscious people like your self. we get no where when we take a very bias approach to the matter.
mkcsk8maniac 1 year ago
@komodoman
No, its not, because science requires more than hoaxing and stories to make it sit up and take notice, otherwise it would be wasting its time with every paranormal event in the world, as well as all of the cryptids it can shake a stick at. Its unscientific to spend time on something that may or may not be there. If there is stronger proof then fair enough, spend a little time looking into it, right now all we have is dubious evidence. There's dubious evidence for lots of things.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
Fleet of experts? Please Komo share just of few names of this fleet of scientists who think Bigfoot is real. Krantz was buddies with Patterson and Meldrum has been caught making false claims about PGF---now who else you got?
seymourbbest 1 year ago
BobH is just a guy jealous of Roger and Bob having seen the real thing and he didn't, that's all this is about. An old grudge, and he became an easy target for Long's claws of cool cash. These gullible tabloid suckers are the easiest, ClassicD, they'll rather trust 15-minuters like that out to make a buck than the fleet of experts by now saying the film's no fake and these hairy folks really are out there... So be it, wrong bet is all there is to it.
komodoman 1 year ago
now you no why there's a joker in the deck of card's...ever notice back in the mid evil times the kings all ways had this little thing jumping about...well they still use them... the debunkers,are jesters...it's like a freaken joke the shit they come up with as a debunking tool...and the so called scientist wont touch it, because they're told not to through threats and intimidation...they have more control over the scientific community then zoo animals...just take 911for instance...
mkcsk8maniac 1 year ago
@mkcsk8maniac
What is your problem with debunkers? haha, jesters? The same could be said for believers who blindly follow even when there's no evidence at all. Bigfoot is about as possible as anything else, but i see nothing to suggest that a race of elusive giants are living in north America constantly and cleverly eluding science.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
@GilbertSyndrome Could it be science is eluding Bigfoot ...let me ask you a hypothetical question... you and your girl friend live together, your off trying to debunk... some bullshit, it doesn't matter to a debunker... OK, you come home and your toilet seat is raised; would you ignore it or would you know for a fact some dude has been in your house...?if science can ignore building 7 they will ignore any thing.
mkcsk8maniac 1 year ago
@mkcsk8maniac
Science has to elude bigfoot because its busy with more important matters, if bigfoot is there then science can't elude it, right now though... its 2010 and all we have is thousands of footprints which may or may not belong to a possible bigfoot which may or may not actually exist, blurry photo's and audio wailing and a film that is so uncertain that the world remains undecided on its validity, i can forgive science for not really caring about this 7-10 foot ghost.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
@GilbertSyndrome "Science has to elude bigfoot because its busy with more important matters"...true..like finding a way to stop that tiny oil leak..
joeyvader 1 year ago
@joeyvader
..and curing disease's or at least attempting to, bettering our knowledge of the world around us, improving our health or at least trying to. Science should be about improving our quality of life and our knowledge about whats going on, not looking for things that may or may not be there. I'm all for discovery, but bigfoots cup runneth over.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
@GilbertSyndrome Agreed...but try to imagine how important the discovery of a new primate, on the North American continent would be!! ...a primate that may well prove to be our closest genetic relative...
joeyvader 1 year ago
@joeyvader
It'd be a great discovery, better than discovering a new type of mineral in the sea, thats for sure. But how much time is too much time when the results aren't coming in? I have no problem with people wanting to fund their own research, but governments have enough money to pass around as it is, i don't think science should be paying for the discovery of bigfoot, i think thats an independent thing.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
@GilbertSyndrome I think it always has been up to the researchers to fund their own research...Krantz paid for all of his trips and time spent out of his own pocket..as far as I know there has never been Gov't funding for any researchers...
joeyvader 1 year ago
@joeyvader
I didn't think the had been many government funded trips, but i don't think there should be, thats why i don't think science needs to get behind this hunt, what more can they do? If some tangible evidence turns up then they'll have to listen and look, but otherwise science remains mildly curious and thats it.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
I don't care what they say, Bigfoot is real, and this loser seeking attention won't EVER change the way I think. He is simply a person who is to lazy to actually get famous. Bob probably isn't even his name!
ClassicalDreaming 1 year ago
@ClassicalDreaming
Bob is his name and he lives in the same street as Gimlin. One street away from Pattersons widow. You can even see him on reel 1 with Jerry Merrit.
GilbertSyndrome 1 year ago
Meldrum & co. are myths...? News to me. Don't ignore there aren't too many scientists that have done it with PGF, besides the known names, Bigfoot's a topic only the brave dare examine. Very much a 'fuck you' attitude to conventions is required. Also remember, most did in fact go into this with no preconceived notions, Paulides, Munns, etc. It was just fantasy - until researched and examined.
komodoman 1 year ago
Komo once again I ask you to provide us with individuals or institutions who have examined the Patterson film and claimed it was a real creature? You keep trotting out this worn out' bigfoot is real say the experts'myth but always fail to provide any proof. Like the bigfoot myth itself this expert myth is also devoid of any proof.
seymourbbest 1 year ago
seymourbabble, skeptics like eminbozo sure hang in there...to no avail of course. The footage has been thoroughly gone over, many times now in fact, and not once has any sign of hoaxing ever been noticed. The closest to that would be, when one examination concluded it inconclusive as proof of either real or hoax. Most study finds it authentic footage of a genuine so-called Sasquatch.
komodoman 1 year ago
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Seriously?? It was not Bob H. in a suit in the PGF.
If this is the "proof" it is ridiculously absurd and merely a desperate attempt to get some attention.
TSM8088 1 year ago 10
@TSM8088 what are u talking about? its just this dude in a bigfoot costume.. it doesnt say anything about PGF.
foppit 1 year ago
@foppit uhhhh....yeah.....
joeyvader 1 year ago
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Bob H. is a sad individual seeking attention. If you measure the limb ratios of the PGF to this vid, you can see there is no possibility of matching each limb. The lower legs are too short. The distance from the hips to the shoulders doesn't match. The shoulders are out of proportion.
If Patterson allegedly would pay Bob H. to perpetrate the hoax, where would an ex-Rodeo cowboy find $1000? Even in 1967, that was a lot of money.
mysighting 1 year ago 10
@mysighting they thought they were gonna get helllla rich of the film but they didn't so they couldn't pay him so he waited till he was dead and made up this story to get some publicity and cash 0-0
boitoy5 1 year ago