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  • I think what you made is very creative. I'm sure you already know not to listen to all the nay sayers. In my opinion the point is to have fun and learn what you can. Even if you can't acheive perpetual motion, you can acheive a high efficiency. It's all in fun anyway.

    Great job!

  • Laws of perpetual mouvement machines :

    1- they don't need inicial impulse to start running.

    2- once running they don't stop unless brake is aplied.

    3- they work without electric wires/motors attached.

    4- and finaly... they don't work, whatever you do.

    If any of these rules is violated, is a fake machine.

  • could you instal trip leavers so that you dont need your hands?

  • It could be done, but the machine would quickly stop as you're no longer putting energy into it.

  • if u change hands it feels like somone else is doing it. lolol

  • lol cool

  • there are thousands of similar silly devices on youtube. Have the sense to make a mechanism driven by the rotor to replace the hands and you'll soon see that IT DOESNT WORK. and never will. If you think you can defy well established laws of physics, make a machine that runs constinuously and produces output power. Then you'll earn a Nobel prize. Meanwhile, what you have is garbage.

  • Have a peg stick out from the spinning disk, that then strikes a wire guide attached to the outer magnets then as the disk spins around the peg slides along wire lifting the magenet out of the way. The wire guide can be however long to life the magnet out of the way for exactly the optimum time.

  • Connect some lobes on the shaft and let them do the ( see saw work )

  • put yer hands AWAY

  • lol

  • needs work... think it provides enough energy to be self sufficient? if so, to make an actual vehicle with this design... well, it's not happening.

  • He may as well push it directly with his fingers; the magnets are irrelevant. With proper timing, he could build up quite a lot of energy in a heavy flywheel. If that were then stopped suddenly, it could be quite impressive - but only stupid people confuse energy with power.

  • Okay energy...

    So the thing he is doing here is using the force of his hands/fingers to make the flywheel spin. If he had the flywheel somehow manage to pull up the magnets and have it timed properly... it'd work wonderfully, but... would it zap up all the energy pulling up these magnets? Maybe... i think they would but what do i know... im just guessing.

  • There is no need to guess, the answer has been known for some 150 years: one cannot 'get energy out of thin air'. Magnets give up some energy, as they become demagnetised, but it is a minute amount. Contrary to crackpot opinion, magnets are not sources of infinite energy.

  • Eventually the hands get tired just as I suspected. But he stills gets a B+ on the report card. I wonder are the hands attached to anything?

  • dam! so close. you have to put energy in to get energy out its no good nice try,.

  • Has it occurred to anyone that the reason the disc turns is because there are some busy fingers in there supplying the energy?

  • Now yer talking!! Ad a cam to lift those 'things'! The best bet would have 'it' go above and below the magnets as it turns! Too old to bugger with that stuff! LOL

  • very cool!!

  • yes there is an arm in installed in one of my other videos springs don't work tried that. The stators have to be raised 5 to 10 degrees before the rotor gets to them, that is the hard part. This design was flawed because i was basically trying to get the torbay configuration to work i have now changed the layout and am trying from another angle

  • Did you try putting an arm on the wheel to push the magnet arms out of the way as the wheel spins, with springs to pull the magnets back down into place?

  • Unfortunately that is true, again this shows the many downfalls of the Torbay. Since it does not work as advertised i was looking at some wierd and wonderful alternatives to get it to work LOL...

  • assuming the thing works as stated the energy needed for rotation comes from the muscle energy of the operator

  • once started, the spinning motion could be converted into rectilinear motion (back-forth/up-down/push-pull)

    and used to rock a shaft, see-saw style (fulcrum/pivot

    in middle), that could lift and lower the two stator arms in time with each other. You'd achieve a constant rate of on/off "signals" and, thereby, a constant rotor RPM which, given that the timing of all moving parts are in sync (relative to each other), then (theoretically) lends to the controlability & adjustment of motor speed..

  • Why not mount magnets on the bottom of the 'stator' magnets and an aluminum piece that pushes them out of the way, with induced current, as it comes around.

  • That's very interesting.

    I would put the magnets on the wheels a bit more in a smaller cirkel and let the wheel lift the magnets.don't forget that you probably need small spring to pull the m,agnets back in postion.

  • Have you considered using a light wieght material for the arms that move up and down? That way you could use less energy to move the pieces up and down?

  • Some simple questions :

    1) What would happen, if you'd only have two "metal hands" - each one opposed to the other

    2) Where do you get this stuff (magnets especially)?

    3) Does a great number of magnet increase the magnetic force ?

    4) What type of magnet is the most efficient ?

    Thank you.

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