ACE WOULD JOIN KISS FOR ROCK HALL

[Jacky95tp]

In: ABBA, Madonna, Run-DMC, Michael Jackson

Out: KISS, Deep Purple, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Whitesnake

I think there's something wrong with the Hall Of Fame

[San94Andreas]

the rock hall of fame is a bullshit hall of fame. fuckin abba (and many other artists that aren't even rock) is in but not kiss or all of the hair bands? i don't even care anymore.

[asteinman1]

F*ck the Rock and Roll Hall of shame for not having KISS in there!!!

[ROMEORAUNCH]

fucking AAAAAA. Kiss should have been there a long time ago.,the original kiss......original.

[MTD45]

If Ace gets ousted rom being part of KISS getting inducted into the Hall of Fame the entire band should not be inducted.

[DANNYCOOPER1234321]

i love how ace said 'you know' 11 times in his interview

[VenetianIsle]

Ace is a Gentleman beyond compare!

[eugvh18]

Van halen don't need hall fame tell world about them, the world already know, they badass rocker

[mikens1]

Yeah, Run DMC is in. What a fuckin crock a shit that is!

[haansgruber]

Stanley Harvey Eisen & Chaim Weitz

Oh boy! maybe another jew will get their own TV show! (I can't wait)

oy vey!

peace )

[Kimindigo]

kiss is not kiss without ace and peter !!!

[ROMEORAUNCH]

@Kimindigo you know thats true,Iknow thats true,just wish gene and paul knew.

[mrbassman25]

i love the live clips of kiss playing..... they look so passionless and bored compaired to the old days..... whatever show that was..... it looks very crap indeed

[gethsenamane]

Of course the r&r hall of fame is a joke. It still has no DeepPurple or Rush and dozens of other true rock bands that should be in it. So it shouldn't bother Kiss one bit.

[Atreyufolife]

rock means rock only whats next Rebecca black HOF? wtf!!

[TheBestYears1996]

I think they should just change it to "Hall of Asshole Black Rapping Fags"

[pizzadeliveryguy1984]

ace " you know" frehley

[Rhys10218]

KISS don't want to be in it to many shit artists which have nothing to do with Rock N Roll and i have to agree

[JZJYRWO]

Boycott the hall 

[RAC22963]

Eff the HOF!

[beatlesbiggestfan100]

Can anyone tell me why he quit in the first place?

[diamonddust22]

The Rolling Stones Rock n Roll Hallow Fame. Use to be worth something, now it's a fraud. Kiss is better not being part of it, cause it's a fraud and a joke. Madonna? Really? BS

[MrMethadrine]

yes dude!"I KNOW"

[RTL777]

KISS should tell the Rock and Roll Hall of Shame to KISS their asses when they are finally accepted. So should Alice Cooper and a bunch of other groups that are supposed to be in. This would make the Hall NOT VIABLE anymore!

[ragged73]

The HOF has become a joke! When bands that are NOT rock and roll are in it, then the whole idea is gone. It's a joke, a business and nothing more.

[MrAndreSChr]

Good thing Ace is not being a whiney little girl about the new KISS like Peter is.. Ace gets ALL my respect!

[SpicyRiceProductions]

@MrAndreSChr exactly, ace is still good friends with everybody in the band, especially paul (and oddly tommy haha ) and is getting on great with his solo career. old kiss "fans" need to respect that.

[Dabuss98]

So if KISS gets inducted Ace and Peter will be up with Gene and Paul to accept it instead of Tommy and Eric?

[MrAndreSChr]

@Dabuss98 of course! WTF?

[0720Rico]

@Dabuss98 No one knows for sure at this point but it will likely include Ace and Peter even if Tommy and Eric are there too. I would love to see them accepting an induction sometime in the future together with Ace, Peter, Bruce and Vinnie.

[musicman257]

kiss needs to be in thier.

[sonnic1995]

hall of fame, must be hall of fuckers..... that shit isnt about how good are those "bands" are how about they sell albums

[Edward681]

The Rock & Roll HOF is a JOKE! Kiss? Rush? Why are they not in there? Because they would rather honor Madonna instead.

[thleyelthy]

@Edward681 yeah and my oppinion: I thought its rock n roll hall of fame and not POP hall of fame cause madonna is the queen of POP and not queen of ROCK!! \m/

[cbrocki95]

KISS was and is the band that never was they are a great theatric band the spitting fire and levitating drum kit to the fireworks and Paul Stanley hanging from a cable going into the crowed c'mon guys every person who like KISS need to nominate them and vote

[hersofclass]

KISS belongs in the HOF...they are one of the classic rock bands of all time.....love them or hate them, they deserve to be in there.

[68bobba]

@hersofclass I couldn,t agree more....Kiss is THE most influential rock band to ever come out America....Of course they belong in the Hallof Fame

[xxxNowhereGirlxxx]

HOF sucks....Joan Jett isnt in but Madonna is?

[DarknessManiac]

@xxxNowhereGirlxxx thats what shocks you? im more disgusted that ABBA beat KISS in...

[terry19692010]

@xxxNowhereGirlxxx lol joan jett not yet and may never be deservate of the hall of fame .....

[stevedrums]

@xxxNowhereGirlxxx What about Heart, Pat Benatar or even Linda Ronstadt? It's simply a club of good ole boys wishing to interpret their own version of the history of R&R. Sadly, it's little to do with the real history.

[1kissgirl]

ace is sweet =)

[GOORVY]

come on!! KISS is pop culture!! how it's possible that Madonna or Run DMC are there and KISS isn't that's BULLSHIT!!

[VFBBONJOVI1]

like Gene said: Hall of Fame can KISS my ASS!

[GOORVY]

@VFBBONJOVI1 maybe that's the reason why they would no get in haha

[hannahmontana96able]

i think kiss should be in the rock and roll hall of fame

[footballplayer25RC]

Peter is workin on another album right now so I don't see why he couldn't play

[MetalHeart8787]

@footballplayer25RC oh yeah i hear he was doing/ recording  Rock lp. i think he just may sing on it, he did have carpettunnel & coun't play for a while.

[footballplayer25RC]

@MetalHeart8787 Yea I'm gonna get it too lol

[SuperJewTV1]

@footballplayer25RC cuz Peter sucks. both Eric's r way better than him!

[footballplayer25RC]

@SuperJewTV1 wow your just a band wagon and can't think for yourself

[SuperJewTV1]

@footballplayer25RC wtf does that even mean?

[footballplayer25RC]

@SuperJewTV1 Its means you hear someone say Eric Carr is better and you say he it too

[SuperJewTV1]

@footballplayer25RC no ive listened to A LOT of KISS music and seen a lot of live performances and Eric Carr is definitely the best drummer KISS ever had.

[footballplayer25RC]

@SuperJewTV1 So have I Eric Carr is good but not better than Peter Criss

[ollavv]

you know ;)

[footballplayer25RC]

when KISS gets inducted the original 4 should play

[andresc228]

@footballplayer25RC Peter can't play anymore I like too Peter and Ace on the band but Peter is too old now

But Ace is still the man for the job

[sonicfreak12]

Did this hall of fame already happen, or does KISS still have a chance this year?

[762459]

@sonicfreak12 it's already happened what really sucks is that ABBA was inducted........WTF? maybe next year KISS could make it

[splintercell2002]

Somebody should start a petition to get the original members of KISS back together. Or something like that.

[CrazyUnitedAce]

Get KISS (incl. Ace Frehley) into Hallo of Fame

[7FlamingYouth7]

@CrazyUnitedAce

I agree 100%

[762459]

It would be great if they get inducted and perform in the R&R hall of fame, and play like what they did in Unplugged play with all the former members. eric singer, peter criss, bruce kulick, tommy thayer, ace hrehley , paul stanley, gene simmons

[johangetin]

how the hell could ABBA and jimmy cliff get in to the rock n roll hall of fame, but not KISS?? I mean, come on, after all they are "the hottest band in the world"!

[deuce1231]

I knew that asswipe basasschill wouldn't have the stones to respond

[deuce1231]

Anton Fig: "I got paid $10,000 or $15,000 on Dynasty, and on Unmasked, I got $20,000. Not bad for ten days' work." Behind The Mask, Page 326.

If every studio musician got royalties for their work, there wouldn't be anything left for the artists. You're basically full of it with a warped perception of reality at that.

[deuce1231]

And where do you have THIS tidbit of insider knowledge?

More bullshit.

[deuce1231]

Court case? Case number and jurisdiciton, please. I'll look it up. You're so full of shit, it's pathetic.

[deuce1231]

Common knowledge. OK. Where is it?  Show me. As for Anton, in Behind The Mask, he admitted he was pai $10,000.00 for Dynasty and $20,000.00 for Unmasked. That's it. No royalties.

[deuce1231]

And to show you don't knwo everything, who's to say there wasn't a BUYOUT of Eric Carr's royalties, which his family or estate accepted? That's nobody's business but the estate's and KISS. BUt it's certainly a possible explanation as to why, potentially, no more royalties are going to the Eric Carr's estate and/or family. But no, to you, it's the "greedy Jewish bastard" syndrome. Fuck you.

[deuce1231]

Wrong again. Eric Singer has said in muliple print interviews he himself, like Eric Carr, was a paid musician, paid for his services. Does Anton Fig get royalties for Unmasked? No. Carr, or the entity that controls his estate, only gets royalties on songs he co-wrote, unless his employment agrement, which NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN (or ever will) provided otherwise. Stop with the bullshit, you're just a wannabe trying to sound like you know what you're talking about when in reality, you don't.

[deuce1231]

You're confusing KISS with Ozzy Osbourne, asshole. KISS has only re-recorded classic tunes with the current lineup, much like Anthrax did a few years ago, on a single disc. No one was replaced, like Ozzy's camp did to Lee Kerslake and Bob Daisley, leaving Ozzy and Radny Rhodes on the tapes and recording over the bass and drums with Mike Bordin and Robert Trujillo. Get a life and get a fucking clue. You're nothing more than a wannabe pissant.

[deuce1231]

I doubt you've been working for "25 years" in the entertainment business when your profile says youre 28 years old fucktard. You lost that one, bitch. Fuck off.

And as for this mythical all-star benefit, it never happened the way YOU think it did. It was put on by a bucnh of no-names, none of those you mentioned were there or affiliated with anything like it. If you have ANY source that shows it happend your way, by all means PROVE ME WRONG, idiot. Til then, fuck off.

[deuce1231]

You really need to learn to STFU when you have no factual basis. I have a soft spot for Eric Carr's memory. But this anti-Gene-and-Paul attitude, especially when you have no first hand knowledge of the facts, really bugs me. As for "royalties", you can count on one hand the number of songs Eric Carr co-wrote for KISS. Fact is, he was a salaried employee, paid regardless of sales figures. Any royalties he got came from his songs or from employment agreements, which you know nothing about.

[deuce1231]

I'm speechless. I'm so glad YOU were THERE for EVERYTHING and can report the FACTS. Fucking unbelievebale.  You're just the symptom of a deeper rooted problem, which is this fucking Internet culture that wholeheartedly believes anything it sees on its screen is the gospel and perpetually spews misinformation ad infinitum. So have your "opinion," rooted in God knows what factual basis, and skip along your merry fucking way.

[Greed770]

thats why we love ace. He isn't one to hold a grudge, and would be mature enough to go up there with them, unlike peter, who would probably bitch and moan about eric singer some more.

[deuce1231]

Touche. The Monkees and the Partridge Family were figments of some TV writer's imagination. KISS, on the other hand, can be competently compared to The Beatles. Four guys in a BAND, who wrote their own MUSIC, played their own MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS, SANG their own SONGS, sold millions of MUSIC RECORDINGS, toured the world playing LIVE MUSIC and even made a movie or two. And the show wasn't bad either. Hmm, musical elements came into that spot-oncomparison 7 times. Not about music? Yeah. OK.

[MOPEDER01]

You do know that the Monkees learned to play their instruments and eventually wrote songs.

[deuce1231]

Actually, Mike NEsmith palyed guitar and wrote songs all along. Peter Tork was a folk musician. But on the whole, and collectively, as "The Monkees", the individuals were prefabricated, hence the term "The Pre-fab Four" in comparison to the "Fab Four" of The BEatles.

[MOPEDER01]

I was aware of that. The Rolling Stones are the greatest of all time, IMO.

[boonatron]

@deuce1231 exactly...and it's not like they all met each other at certain stages and decided "let's start a band" they were put together by television studio executives

[maryquant1967]

jimmy page: junkie

[MOPEDER01]

If they ever get inducted it should be Ace, Paul, Gene and Peter up there to recieve the honors not everyone else that has been in the band since. Just the originals should be there.

[deuce1231]

I wholeheartedly disagree. Without Eric Carr (RIP), Mark St. john (RIP), Bruce Kulick, Eric Singer, and although I hate to say it, even Vinnie Vincent, there wouldn't still be a KISS today, there wouldn't have been a 1996 reunion tour, and you wouldn't have had the balls to say what you just said because it wouldn't matter. Creatures of The Night, Lick It Up, Revenge, even Sonic Boom are all great albums. Stop living in the past, it's OK to embrace it but quit trying to love it to death.

[MOPEDER01]

I'm fairly certain that Gene and Paul would not agree to having everyone that has been in KISS get up there and accept the award. It will either be the Originals or the current band.

[deuce1231]

And I believe the only person undeserving of the honor is Vinnie Vincent. That leaves just Bruce Kulick, and frankly, they wouldn't slap him in the face like that.

[MOPEDER01]

If the others are there then Vinnie deserves to be. He was fired because Gene didn't like him. Ace and Gene don't like each other. Him and Peter both quit the band. In that sense they they shouldn't be included. It will in the end if KISS gets the award it will either be the Originals or the current band. I doubt they will get the RHOF award any time soon if ever.

[deuce1231]

Vinnie Vincent's problem is he's made it too difficult to even bne cordial to him. Every time he turns around, he's suing KISS. Each and every time, he's lost on summary judgment. And his next suit, for using footage on KISSTORY Vol. II with his likenes on it, will likely also lose, as he is clearly not the owner of that footage, or even of his likeness when used in conjunction with KISS.

[waystedkiss]

so why do you suppose Alice Cooper is not in there ????

[deuce1231]

Alice Cooper's absence is another head scratcher...it it were up to me, I would induct THE BAND Alice Cooper as opposed to the solo artist.

[deuce1231]

As far as enemies in the industry, if Dave Marsh and Jann Wenner count as enemies, so be it. THey're both a couple of idiots. Jann Wenner hated Neil Bogart, so KISS doesn't get to be part of his club. Big deal. Dave Marsh has his nose so far up Springsteen's ass he can't tell The Boss plagiarised "I Was Made for Loving You" when he released "Outlaw Pete"...so what has Marsh ever done that's so rock and roll anyway? And as long as ABBA is in, I'm happy KISS is still anti-establishment.

[waystedkiss]

well said dude !! thumbs up !!! The hall is a personal favs list, political too. Some bands hve been "blacklisted" it's a unwritten fact.

[maryquant1967]

interesting post deuce. Wenner and Landau have done a shit job selecting worthy inductees....some choices were obvious, but over the years, its become a joke.

[deuce1231]

So you can provide some resemblence of a source for a questionable Jimmy Page qutoe, yet there is no source whatsoever for yoru claim "they" tried to sue "them" (pronoun trouble?) for breach of contract. Who breached what contract? Where's the proof anyone in KISS tried to "screw" anyone ou tof royalties? Were YOU personally involved? How do YOU know anything about it? Yeah, I thought so. You're like many who talk a load of BS but can NEVER back it up with any PERSONAL knowledge. STFU.

[DaddyCoolDeathSquad]

I think every living member of Kiss should be there. As much as Gene & Paul like to put down some former members, they wouldn't be where they are & their bank accounts wouldn't be as full without those guys. I'd like to see Ace, Peter, Bruce, Vinnie, & Mark all get some appreciation. Also, they should try & show the same class that Metallica did & have one or both of Eric Carr's parents up there.

[Rokket]

...Mark passed away a while ago man...!!!

[alejandroburboa]

Ace is a professional musician, not like gene

[mattkissband]

yeah he should be there, after all, no ace, it wouldnt be kiss. i like both new albums but have to admit listen 2 aces more.......

[johnnypnyb]

Hes playing bass for Peter Criss on the new cd, but is and always will be playing lead guitar

[heavymetal4ever90]

willl peter make a new album ? will it sound like the last one ?

[stevedrums]

God, I hope not in the same format as the last one.

[johnnypnyb]

Ace is right,,,,,

All for Kiss and all for Kiss...

But Ace, why isn't Richie Scarlet in your band,,

[LayItPlayItDown]

Haha I'd like Ace to reunite Frehley's Cometh ;)

But haven't you heard ?

Richie Scarlet is playing base (not guitar) on the new upcoming release around April 2010.

Kinda cool !

[LayItPlayItDown]

Oh, sorry, the new upcoming PETER CRISS release !

(Good thing to leave out the keyword haha)

[TheKissfan01]

why does he always wear glasses?

[volksrepair]

Class act....

[GeneSimmons1994]

What´s called the song from 0:00 - 0:11 ?

[RokDAWG1]

Cold Gin

[GeneSimmons1994]

AHHH SURE

I´m an Idiot - i know i knew this one!^^

[Kaneknife]

woww... I was born 1994 too and I know... its part of cold gin...

[GeneSimmons1994]

and know you think youre great?

i know more than you about kiss you idiot

[sroopes]

you know:D

[GeneSimmons1994]

KISS belonged for a long longe time into the rock & roll hall of fame

Gene, Paul, Ace & Peter

AND THEY`LL WIN FOR SURE

AND THEN I HOPE THE 4 PLAY TOGETHER MAYBE NOT THE LAST TIME?

[andrax0]

it would be totally fair, ace and peter deserve it, besides that the nomination is for the original kiss lineup and ace and peter were in the most glorius kiss point

[tengux]

All KISS fans LOVE Ace and always will. However HE chose not to continue with the band after the "farewell" tour. Gene and Paul decided to go back out on tour and Ace politely declined to go with them. Were they suppoesed to just drop it after he opted out? I don't blame them for asking Tommy to do it. And who could blame Tommy for accepting? Hell, I'd do it if they asked me!! lol! It's a dream come true. I'm glad Gene and Paul kept it going!

[Bloodchris]

bring back the real spaceman!!!! Ace rules!!!

[briannapat]

Ace Frehley SUCKS ! He is disgrace to KISS. Ive been a fan since 76 and love this group with all my heart BUT Tommy Thayer can outplay Ace anytime !

[shinnox]

you are a total moron. ace co-wrote kiss' best songs. songs that they are still playing this very day! ace was the one trying to save kiss when gene and paul was doing pop and disco.

thats funny bc all tommy plays are ace style licks. tommy wants to be, and is dressing up like ace everyday.

[RokDAWG1]

How could you know that? He's too busy playing all of Ace's stuff and even trying to solo like Ace. Tommy doesn't know how to play like Tommy.

The new Ace album shows a lot more of Ace people knew about his playing. Ace is a bad mo-fo....and certainly not a clone.

[YooTubeSuxLikeHell]

Yep, even on the new scab Kiss album all of Tommy's solo's are just rehashed Ace licks that he copied and pasted together.

[hz11287]

I heard Kiss new album Sconic Boom debut  @ #2 on the billboard 200 and Ace in the top #25. Ace new ablum is better, it should of debut @ #2.

[Thesecondkings4]

I agree I didnt even like sonic boom

[n2112bytor2112p]

@Thesecondkings4 i totally agree i didnt like sonic boom either

[Thesecondkings4]

@n2112bytor2112p Yeah Kiss really did alot of talk about how it is classic Kiss but it wasn't I thought every song sounded the same and none of them sounded good

[n2112bytor2112p]

@Thesecondkings4 there wasnt much thought put into the songs either, i mean anomaly kicks ass but i give sonic boom a 2 out of 10, the only song i like is modern day dalilah, but the re-recorded songs are great, the dvd too.

[YooTubeSuxLikeHell]

According to your profile, you werent even alive in 1976.

[DekeRadio]

The only four people on stage that night should be Ace, Paul, Gene, and Peter. Makeup, no makeup...doesn't matter. They made the band what it was together, and they should bring the story to a conclusion together. If that's the last time those four were on stage together, I think most KISS fans would be OK with that.

[RokDAWG1]

Agreed

[DIESEL0759]

I disagree that ONLY the original band should be up there. It's like Paul said on Unplugged, "We're the band that sustains everything...but to not acknowledge what brought us here would be crazy."

In other words, yes, Ace & Peter founded the group, and had a good share in songwriting and making the legend what it is today, but for WHATEVER reason, they are not the CURRENT band (regardless of what anyone thinks of the current lineup), and the current lineup is just as important, as are the past

[curdog602]

scripp,

i don't think gene would be dumb enough to do that. ace probably did more to put kiss in the limelight than everyone else in the band put together..

[09debono09]

be a merical if guns n roses did that

[netowner666]

this is how it's supposed to be, the kiss era with all the original band members is the reason why they're being inducted

[Metallicathrashsam]

i hope its like metallica and jason newsted reuniting for their induction

[JDarkley]

That would be cool, especially if the current line-up shares the stage with their previous members, even if that turned out to be up to nine people onstage. At least do like they did for the Unplugged album.

[Metallicathrashsam]

yea, if slipknot can play with 9 people...why cant Kiss?

[Scripp]

Only problem I forsee with this is Gene and Paul being ignorant enough to show up with whoever they have playing drums and lead when they get inducted and not letting Ace and Peter be a part of it.

And Gene is such an Egomaniac he might be dumb enough to try to pull that off and it would be his last mistake because the lifelong KISS fans would boo him off the stage there.

[countmreturns]

wow i want your life dude....

[rockzilla99]

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