Did you completely ignore where I said that the correlation is dictatorship and absolute power, and not religiosity? Oh, yes, you did. State-sanctioned massacres and executions occur in dictatorships, almost exclusively, regardless of which religion is prevalent or the extent to which it is believed.
@diagoras54 Despite the fact the worst atrocities this world has ever seen have been committed by atheist states. There are other dictatorships that do not come anywhere close. You conveniently ignored the fact the Soviets outdid the Tsars within one month, just in one execution camp. Mao and Stalin were responsible for the deaths of 80,000,000 between them. Tell, me else can you find such democide?
Mao caused the Japanese to invade China? Stalin caused the Germans to invade Russia? Mao wanted to kill millions of his own citizens by imposing economic policies that he thought would improve his country? Those quotes from Lenin don't advocate wanton slaughter, nor do you take into account who was actually killed: did the Gulags contain only the religious? Were there actually not any political prisoners? Have religious dictators not killed anyone?
@diagoras54 Once again you are completely ignoring the evidence. The deaths tolls of Mao and Stalin only include those killed by the state during peace time. No religious government, dictatorship or otherwise, even come close. You also seem to miss the salient point that Christians who commit atrocities are doing so in stark violation of the tenets of Christianity, whereas atheists have no tenets to violate and are free to believe whatever life-destroying myths they want.
@diagoras54 You also ignore the fact that atheism provides no basis for the sanctity of human life, or morals for that matter: "We must do away with this papist-Quaker babble of the sanctity of human life" - Leon Trotsky. This is simply special pleading. If atheist states get a clear bill, why not the religious?
Excellent series! You presented your stuff very well and very convincing. This diagoras54 sounds like someone who (like most atheists) have an ax to grind rather a valid point to make.
@thunderbolt94 Why, thank you kind sir. This took longer than I thought it would, mostly because some nutter on TheologyWeb kept demanding I waste my time answering them, and then I took a day off to fix my 360. Got it down in the end.
Did you completely ignore where I said that the correlation is dictatorship and absolute power, and not religiosity? Oh, yes, you did. State-sanctioned massacres and executions occur in dictatorships, almost exclusively, regardless of which religion is prevalent or the extent to which it is believed.
diagoras54 1 year ago
@diagoras54 Despite the fact the worst atrocities this world has ever seen have been committed by atheist states. There are other dictatorships that do not come anywhere close. You conveniently ignored the fact the Soviets outdid the Tsars within one month, just in one execution camp. Mao and Stalin were responsible for the deaths of 80,000,000 between them. Tell, me else can you find such democide?
Randomicity912 1 year ago
Mao caused the Japanese to invade China? Stalin caused the Germans to invade Russia? Mao wanted to kill millions of his own citizens by imposing economic policies that he thought would improve his country? Those quotes from Lenin don't advocate wanton slaughter, nor do you take into account who was actually killed: did the Gulags contain only the religious? Were there actually not any political prisoners? Have religious dictators not killed anyone?
diagoras54 1 year ago
@diagoras54 Once again you are completely ignoring the evidence. The deaths tolls of Mao and Stalin only include those killed by the state during peace time. No religious government, dictatorship or otherwise, even come close. You also seem to miss the salient point that Christians who commit atrocities are doing so in stark violation of the tenets of Christianity, whereas atheists have no tenets to violate and are free to believe whatever life-destroying myths they want.
Randomicity912 1 year ago
@diagoras54 You also ignore the fact that atheism provides no basis for the sanctity of human life, or morals for that matter: "We must do away with this papist-Quaker babble of the sanctity of human life" - Leon Trotsky. This is simply special pleading. If atheist states get a clear bill, why not the religious?
Randomicity912 1 year ago
I love this
GlowingBeard 1 year ago
Excellent series! You presented your stuff very well and very convincing. This diagoras54 sounds like someone who (like most atheists) have an ax to grind rather a valid point to make.
thunderbolt94 1 year ago
@thunderbolt94 Why, thank you kind sir. This took longer than I thought it would, mostly because some nutter on TheologyWeb kept demanding I waste my time answering them, and then I took a day off to fix my 360. Got it down in the end.
Randomicity912 1 year ago