@DTOWNRW16 but then theres cynthia, whos showed up in unova.....and johto, if the sinjoh ruins are close to it.....so i dont think you would have to stay.
@hamstersonsteroids well the series would have to end if he won... because he would have to remain the champ and not move on to different regions. In other words the newer generations would not have been created. So yes in a sense he is weak, but only because the show needs to keep going. If it was one season he would have raped the entire pokemon league
@mikesvampire Ash technically only battled honestly for half his badges. Boulder Badge and Thunder Badge were by cheating (Sprinkler system > Onix and Pikachu sticking its tail into the ground becoming a Ground Type respectively), Cascade Badge because he beat Team Rocket, and Earth Badge...also because he beat Team Rocket.
@SuaveTito First of all, Ash didn't know Onix was weak to water until Misty told him. So, there, your damn contradiction was nulled. And besides, it wasn't against the rules, otherwise Brock would disqualify him.
Also, Raishu being exhausted isn't cheating, it's Surge's fault for evolving him right off the bat. And it was a great strategy for Ash to win.
@Hitmonchan107 You brought up that Ash forfeited the match with the sprinkler system. Then Brock just gave him the badge. THAT'S STILL NOT A FAIR WIN!
Then you're completely looking over the fact that in the fight for the ThunderBadge, what would have clearly been a devastating attack for the Pikachu, in spite of being an Electric-type, was nulled because of GROUNDING ITSELF! What does that have to do with Raichu being evolved? ALSO NOT A FAIR WIN!
@SuaveTito The fact that you don't realize that Pokemon applied logic on their episodes. Pikachu conducted the electricity to the ground.
Oh, and Ash didn't want the badge, but Brock didn't want to battle him anymore, and since Brock's relative weren't chosen as his replacement as gym leader, Ash had no choice but to take the badge.
Also, Raichu lost his speed because Surge evolved him rapidly with the thunderstone, thus never allowing him to build speed. Now do you understand?
@Hitmonchan107 I realize the logic behind Pikachu grounding itself. I know elementary school physics. Now put Ash in the game canon and try to let Pikachu ground itself. The same logic doesn't apply. Raichu has better Speed stats and Quick Attack is a weak move so your argument is "not very effective"!
Also, It doesn't matter whether Ash wanted to take the badge or not. It doesn't matter what way you twist it. HE DID NOT WIN IT BY BATTLE!!!
@Hitmonchan107 What makes you think I'm an attention whore? I could care less if my comments get thumbs up! I supported the point that Red was a better trainer than Ash.
@Hitmonchan107 I didn't overlook it; I didn't need to mention it. Red battled fairly for ALL of his badges! Seriously now shut up and enjoy the music.
@Hitmonchan107 Also the fact that you have ceased refuting any of the other instances in which Ash didn't battle for his badges solidifies my original point about only fighting fairly for half his badges, even if you count the two bullshit victories.
And I think it's just awesome how Red is all, "......" in GSC / HGSS. Think about it--they're cracking the fourth wall in the way that they're making an innuedo to the fact that in the Pokemon series (along with most RPG games...), the protagonist is always silent.
I think it's a bit funny how people freak out about Lance's three Dragonites, and just his difficulty in general. XD
See...if you have a Feraligatr with at least the moves Ice Fang (or any other poweful Ice-typed move, if not also a physical one) and Crunch, and maybe throw in an Earthquake and Aqua Tail or Waterfall...Lance, along with the rest of the Elite Four, are RIDICULOUSLY easy. ;3
@SpeedXaaa People like you don't understand. When we talk about Lance, we mean G/S/C Lance. That guy is friggin impossible. Let me put it this way.
I replayed pokemon gold a month or so ago. Battled every trainer. When I made it to the elite 4, my highest pokemon level was 36. THAT'S why we hate Lance
@MrIcedVovo I wouldn't say "people like you." Now don't resort to stereotyping JUST because when the first two gens of games came out I was like in preschool / first grade (preschool during first gen and about 1st-2nd grade for 2nd gen.); thus, I MAY have played them like crazy, I was still young thus NEVER completed the games. Needless to say, I haven't fully replayed it or anything since then because I never felt a need to.
Interesting, though. I mean how the level-up system has changed so.
I say raise a Starmie! Thunderbolt/Thunder for Gyarados, Surf for Charizard and Aerodactyl and Icy Wind/Ice Beam/Blizzard for the Dragonites. Simple as that!
Red and Ash are like counterpart. They're theoractically different, but they share many similarities. Red is Ash's counterpart in Manga and games while Ash is Red's counterpart in anime.
Wow. That's one heck of a song. I especially love the part at the beginning; it fills you with dread and awe, like you're about to go up against a truly terrifying opponent. I always got that vibe from hearing it in the show.
@Pengoony Clair is packing Dragonairs with Thunder Wave and Dragon Rage, which combined with Dragon resistances will cripple most things that try to sweep them. Especially so since most natural Ice Beam users aren't particularly quick, and the Ice Beam TM is a pain in the rear to get from the Game Corner. Then there's Kingdra, who has plenty of resistances and no weaknesses except Dragon (which amounts to Twister on Gyarados, which sucks). Clair is just tougher at the part of the game she's at.
@drkid202 I suggest devoting some time to level a Remoraid until it evolves into Octillery. He beat the everloving hell out of Cynthia. I imagine Lance is no different.
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ThePeyet 5 days ago
My Slowking's in dire straits. What to do? *lightbulb*
Jolteon, I choose you!
*One absorbed Thunderbolt later*
Taste some of your own medicine, flying type!
*Jolteon used Thunderbolt. It was super effective.*
Supercharge87 2 weeks ago
3 Dragonites work!
Anyway, epic music!!!
KaijuWarlordKing 1 month ago
Well at least I have Dewgong with Ice B-
Dragonite used Thunderbolt!
Stupid titbitch Lance.
momoandmiz 3 months ago 6
3 fucken underleveled Dragonites
KingdomheartsII 4 months ago
@KingdomheartsII
2, actually.
one of them was level 60.
Chase1002newaccount 4 months ago
Hope you have a PKMN with Ice beam
SDangerK 4 months ago
*brings pryce as bodyguard*
Chase1002newaccount 4 months ago
Aw ho ho ho ho! - That's supposed to be me in awe and laughing because of the power I am witnessing from this music.
AthosAmo 4 months ago
The elite four from Silver/Gold/Crystal was disappointing because I was hoping our rival would jump out of nowhere to beat the shit out of us.
But I never expected Red...
mzxrules 5 months ago
I'd really like to see Ash fight Red and get his ass handed to him.
thedonoftrek 6 months ago
-The foes Dragonite has FAINTED!
You: Finally! It just gets easier from hear.
-Champion Lance sends out out Dragonite.
You: SHIIIIIIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZackeriProductions 6 months ago 6
One person doesn't have Ice beam.
okjoek1 7 months ago 8
my second favorite champion theme.. cynthia's being first.
this is amazingly epic.
animefan514 7 months ago
Always get a Dragonite (or Articuno), and you'll do great against Lance.
PropellerYoshi1808 8 months ago 3
this is why i have 2 articunos
Chase1002newaccount 8 months ago 6
DRAGONITE fainted... Champion Lance sent out DRAGONITE...
DRAGONITE fainted... Champion Lance sent out DRAGONITE Lv 50!!!!
COME OOOOOOOON!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK!!!!
TheDuskDemise 8 months ago 7
@DTOWNRW16 but then theres cynthia, whos showed up in unova.....and johto, if the sinjoh ruins are close to it.....so i dont think you would have to stay.
hamstersonsteroids 9 months ago
With this you battled your first hacks in the entire series ^ ^'
Ferxo0o0 9 months ago
Ash literally won half his badges through bullshit.
If you got that many badges in the games like that, you'd end up playing for half an hour and beating the game.
See, Ash loses every time he enters the finals because he sucks. He hasn't built up any strength because he never fights anybody fair and square.
And Team Rocket doesn't count.
hamstersonsteroids 9 months ago
@hamstersonsteroids well the series would have to end if he won... because he would have to remain the champ and not move on to different regions. In other words the newer generations would not have been created. So yes in a sense he is weak, but only because the show needs to keep going. If it was one season he would have raped the entire pokemon league
DTOWNRW16 9 months ago
@hamstersonsteroids Thats why Red>Ash all day everyday (:
TMKCali 9 months ago
@hamstersonsteroids he got in the top 4 in sinnoh. he gets better every region.
kanto=he sucked
johto= did alright
hoenn= got really close to winning
sinnoh= almost won
Magnetrode 8 months ago
@Magnetrode
actually if you count the orange islands, he won one
DoinkTonberry 8 months ago
@Magnetrode So Unova = won?
Tetherwing 8 months ago
Shinji Miyazaki=Epic Win
SolarBlade52 10 months ago
SHIT!!!! NO REVIEVE!!!!!
hotwhire 10 months ago
i liked lance better when he was the fourth elite four..............
megacharge64 11 months ago
Lance is probably taking out his 6th Dragonite
HJKLMGPU 11 months ago 3
Ash vs Red: Red wins
Ash ran before Red sent out Pikachu.
mikesvampire 11 months ago
@mikesvampire Ash technically only battled honestly for half his badges. Boulder Badge and Thunder Badge were by cheating (Sprinkler system > Onix and Pikachu sticking its tail into the ground becoming a Ground Type respectively), Cascade Badge because he beat Team Rocket, and Earth Badge...also because he beat Team Rocket.
SuaveTito 10 months ago
@SuaveTito
Boulder: Ash rejects the badge, but Brock hesitates. Not cheating.
Cascade: Ash won it fairly
Thunder: Fair rematch
Rainbow: Gratitude from Erika
Soul: Fair win
Marsh: By a technicality
Volcano: Ash wins fairly
Earth: Giovanni's mistake for putting Jessie and James as leaders. THEY cheated, not Ash.
Hitmonchan107 10 months ago
@Hitmonchan107 How much you forgot.
Boulder: Onix faints because of the water sprinklers. YES THAT'S CHEATING!!
Cascade: Ash protects the gym from Team Rocket.
Thunder: Pikachu sticks its tail into the ground while Raichu exhausts itself. Cheating
Rainbow: Ash saves Gloom
Soul: Fair fight
Marsh: Haunter intervenes
Volcano: Fair fight
Earth: Jessie and James are the temporary Gym Leaders.
So yes, he only earned TWO badges fairly!
SuaveTito 10 months ago
@SuaveTito First of all, Ash didn't know Onix was weak to water until Misty told him. So, there, your damn contradiction was nulled. And besides, it wasn't against the rules, otherwise Brock would disqualify him.
Also, Raishu being exhausted isn't cheating, it's Surge's fault for evolving him right off the bat. And it was a great strategy for Ash to win.
Hitmonchan107 10 months ago
@Hitmonchan107 You brought up that Ash forfeited the match with the sprinkler system. Then Brock just gave him the badge. THAT'S STILL NOT A FAIR WIN!
Then you're completely looking over the fact that in the fight for the ThunderBadge, what would have clearly been a devastating attack for the Pikachu, in spite of being an Electric-type, was nulled because of GROUNDING ITSELF! What does that have to do with Raichu being evolved? ALSO NOT A FAIR WIN!
What are you not getting?
SuaveTito 10 months ago
@SuaveTito The fact that you don't realize that Pokemon applied logic on their episodes. Pikachu conducted the electricity to the ground.
Oh, and Ash didn't want the badge, but Brock didn't want to battle him anymore, and since Brock's relative weren't chosen as his replacement as gym leader, Ash had no choice but to take the badge.
Also, Raichu lost his speed because Surge evolved him rapidly with the thunderstone, thus never allowing him to build speed. Now do you understand?
Hitmonchan107 10 months ago
@Hitmonchan107 I realize the logic behind Pikachu grounding itself. I know elementary school physics. Now put Ash in the game canon and try to let Pikachu ground itself. The same logic doesn't apply. Raichu has better Speed stats and Quick Attack is a weak move so your argument is "not very effective"!
Also, It doesn't matter whether Ash wanted to take the badge or not. It doesn't matter what way you twist it. HE DID NOT WIN IT BY BATTLE!!!
Now do YOU understand?
SuaveTito 10 months ago
@SuaveTito What I don't understand is why the fuck did you reply mikesvampire's comment with that?
I will never understand attention whores.
Hitmonchan107 10 months ago
@Hitmonchan107 What makes you think I'm an attention whore? I could care less if my comments get thumbs up! I supported the point that Red was a better trainer than Ash.
Get a life, asshole!
SuaveTito 10 months ago
@SuaveTito Funny, since you didn't even mention Red's existence. You overlooked that part, asswipe.
Hitmonchan107 10 months ago
@Hitmonchan107 I didn't overlook it; I didn't need to mention it. Red battled fairly for ALL of his badges! Seriously now shut up and enjoy the music.
SuaveTito 10 months ago
@SuaveTito You never mention why Red is better than Ash. Also, neither of them is better than the other unless Satoshi Tajiri says otherwise.
Now YOU shut up and let me enjoy the song in peace.
Hitmonchan107 10 months ago
@Hitmonchan107 Ever heard of a character limit? Also, ever heard of opinions? Now before I shut up, let me remind you that YOU RESPONDED FIRST!!!!
SuaveTito 10 months ago
@SuaveTito But YOU responded with something that went too far. So I threw in my two cents, hoping to answer your question.
I guess I was wrong, and now I'm paying it dearly with you offing me with crap.
Hitmonchan107 10 months ago
@Hitmonchan107 Also the fact that you have ceased refuting any of the other instances in which Ash didn't battle for his badges solidifies my original point about only fighting fairly for half his badges, even if you count the two bullshit victories.
SuaveTito 10 months ago
Thumbs up if you turned the volume up on the gameboy every time your battle with Lance began.
Quillz06 1 year ago 34
@Quillz06 i remember doing that....my batteries were smoked out every time :(
TheGarcia350 10 months ago
@Quillz06 i always had my volume up, what kind of person would keep it down?! :O
ThePokymon 5 months ago
Bidoof attack!!
Bidoof: BIII---
*sees giant dragonite*
...doof?
MrAvalerin 1 year ago
And I think it's just awesome how Red is all, "......" in GSC / HGSS. Think about it--they're cracking the fourth wall in the way that they're making an innuedo to the fact that in the Pokemon series (along with most RPG games...), the protagonist is always silent.
Pretty funny.
SpeedXaaa 1 year ago
I think it's a bit funny how people freak out about Lance's three Dragonites, and just his difficulty in general. XD
See...if you have a Feraligatr with at least the moves Ice Fang (or any other poweful Ice-typed move, if not also a physical one) and Crunch, and maybe throw in an Earthquake and Aqua Tail or Waterfall...Lance, along with the rest of the Elite Four, are RIDICULOUSLY easy. ;3
I breezed through on my second or third shot. XD
SpeedXaaa 1 year ago
@SpeedXaaa People like you don't understand. When we talk about Lance, we mean G/S/C Lance. That guy is friggin impossible. Let me put it this way.
I replayed pokemon gold a month or so ago. Battled every trainer. When I made it to the elite 4, my highest pokemon level was 36. THAT'S why we hate Lance
MrIcedVovo 10 months ago
@MrIcedVovo I wouldn't say "people like you." Now don't resort to stereotyping JUST because when the first two gens of games came out I was like in preschool / first grade (preschool during first gen and about 1st-2nd grade for 2nd gen.); thus, I MAY have played them like crazy, I was still young thus NEVER completed the games. Needless to say, I haven't fully replayed it or anything since then because I never felt a need to.
Interesting, though. I mean how the level-up system has changed so.
SpeedXaaa 9 months ago
@SpeedXaaa i just had my lugia learn avalanche, and dragon pulse to beat lance.
NikoBelic4 2 weeks ago
Lance sent out a Lv50 Dragonite!
Me: How in the...?
Lance: Action replay.
Me: Oh........ fuck..
m1el1puol1m1es 1 year ago 17
@m1el1puol1m1es epic dude!! :D
jimacos333 1 year ago
@m1el1puol1m1es hahahahahahaha
MrStompingshadow 1 week ago
Red:...
CrimsonVermillioneye 1 year ago
I say raise a Starmie! Thunderbolt/Thunder for Gyarados, Surf for Charizard and Aerodactyl and Icy Wind/Ice Beam/Blizzard for the Dragonites. Simple as that!
zachlm01 1 year ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
(Unaired pokemon episode)
(Ash meets Red)
Ash: WHO ARE YOU?
Red:
Ash: Wanna battle?
Red:
Ash: OK LET'S GO!!
(20 seconds later)
Ash: Not only did he beat me.....but my Pikachu gave up on me and went with him.
:(
HyperSonicXtreme 1 year ago
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HyperSonicXtreme 1 year ago
Red and Ash are like counterpart. They're theoractically different, but they share many similarities. Red is Ash's counterpart in Manga and games while Ash is Red's counterpart in anime.
abcabcabc5000 1 year ago 5
@PSshadow92 Actually Red is Ash, because in Gold & Silver, he has the final evolutions of all 3 starters, and a near unbeatable Pikachu.
BalistaGaming 1 year ago
@BalistaGaming Ash and Red are two different characters. Red appears in the manga and video games while Ash appears in the anime.
kyogre545 1 year ago
@BalistaGaming I use to beat that unbeatable pikachu with only one jit
alypkm 1 year ago
Wow. That's one heck of a song. I especially love the part at the beginning; it fills you with dread and awe, like you're about to go up against a truly terrifying opponent. I always got that vibe from hearing it in the show.
FancyToaster 1 year ago
CHAMPION LANCE used One FULL RESTORE!
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DrMopZodiac 1 year ago 178
@DrMopZodiac If I could like your comment a hundred times, I would. LOL.
seraphdarknon 1 year ago
@DrMopZodiac
jajajajaja. Yeah.. I hate it.. (you made me laugh.. a lot)
twintak 1 year ago
@DrMopZodiac one out of ,like, 10
Magnetrode 8 months ago
@DrMopZodiac I find it funny how I cant beat Clair but I can beat Lance with No sweat at all.
Pengoony 3 months ago in playlist Pokemon OST & Remix
@Pengoony Clair is packing Dragonairs with Thunder Wave and Dragon Rage, which combined with Dragon resistances will cripple most things that try to sweep them. Especially so since most natural Ice Beam users aren't particularly quick, and the Ice Beam TM is a pain in the rear to get from the Game Corner. Then there's Kingdra, who has plenty of resistances and no weaknesses except Dragon (which amounts to Twister on Gyarados, which sucks). Clair is just tougher at the part of the game she's at.
Yueryuu 3 months ago
3 fucken Dragonites !!!!!
drkid202 1 year ago 88
@drkid202 I know right? FML.
seraphdarknon 1 year ago
@drkid202 I suggest devoting some time to level a Remoraid until it evolves into Octillery. He beat the everloving hell out of Cynthia. I imagine Lance is no different.
Woo, Ice Beam!
PAMuffinMan 1 year ago
@drkid202 3 Dragonites, 3 Ice Beams. Problem solved.
TheHumbleFellow 1 year ago
Wish that there was an episode back during Johto where Ash fights a future adult version of himself at the top of mount silver
RocketHarry865 1 year ago
HG/SS version is kinda better, dispite this awesome instruments used..
AncientArmaldo 1 year ago
Hm, I wonder if Ash will ever get the chance to hear this...
TsuNaru 1 year ago
@TsuNaru The very last episode of the series will feature him losing to Red.
PSshadow92 1 year ago
God Damn you Lance You and your Epic Theme Shall never Die!
MrRayquazaking 1 year ago
@MrRayquazaking
yeah, lance for ever!
Fiara1995 1 year ago
@Fiara1995 *This music Ques*
Me: Oh god no
Lance: GO Dragonite!
me: Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
MrRayquazaking 1 year ago
@pokemonrocks91 i heard this song in Pasta La Vista! and Chim - Charred!
EntrenadorRojo 1 year ago
I like how the game version is faster and more exciting, but this version sounds a lot better, despite its slightly slower speed
zhigh1 1 year ago
i think this played in that johto episode when team rocket tried stealing pokemon with that giant gengar machine
zhigh1 1 year ago