Dr. John Grinder defines Neuro-Linguistic Programming ( NLP)

[MrLelo17]

@InspiritiveNLP what post-graduate program are you talking about? Could you provide a link to the institution that offers such a program?

[InspiritiveNLP]

@MrLelo17 Inspiritive Pty Ltd in Sydney Australia

[simonhdenis]

Fascinating. Basically, in order to learn new skills or aspire to be greater in a given field, your cup has to be empty. I guess emptying your cup is the hard part.

[InspiritiveNLP]

@simonhdenis A key to NLP modelling is creating a 'know nothing' state within yourself before entering into the context where you have exposure to the expert engaged in the skill you want to capture. Creating an appropriate state for modelling is an important skill that we teach as on the modelling module of our post-graduate program in NLP.

[bullfrog011]

it mean if you have a full cup of tea, you cannot pour any more tea into your cup,, what he is saying is empty the damn cup before you pour anymore tea and you might get to taste some new tea

[cosmicjazzer]

We have more to unlearn than we have to learn!

[razieloner77]

...this sounds like something Zen masters have been teaching their students for centuries.

[aarojas]

@razieloner77 agreed. Grinder just invented a language with neurolinguistic computer vocabulary to describe it, which has allowed him to copywrite it, package it, and sell it. What do others think?

[InspiritiveNLP]

@aarojas Some of language John uses draws more from the intellectual antecedents of NLP, the cognitive sciences and especially linguistics. I personally don't think his use of language has anything to do with copywriting, packaging and marketing especially considering that so many trainers of NLP fail to reference to Grinder when taking his work.

[TheWayshowerTube]

Children are openminded, innocent, non programmed, non prejudice, have no standards, norms and value, this makes them not use comparative analysing. Adults can also be as children, they just have to become openminded like a child.

[jacksawild]

People who are interested in NLP or Errickson in general should learn about Taoist philosophy. I wont tell you why, it's more fun to discover it on your own.

[TuRdSandwitch18]

y dont these people ever speak english? i dont understand wot the hell he's on about, adn how does this relate to real life? will nlp help you get laid? or make friends? or make money? for example, if so i'd probably be more insterested

[InspiritiveNLP]

@TuRdSandwitch18

Well NLP can help you get laid, make friends, make money... There are a multitude of NLP applications already and new ones being developed. However, you need to learn NLP first before you can apply it.

[Actar411]

@TuRdSandwitch18 It's obvious you didn't listen because one of the things he talked about was being open minded and listening to new things. Absorbing what you heard was what the whole thing is about. What he is really saying is intelligent people will learn new concepts by letting them flow over them, rather than trying to grasp them. One should not try to reach for the knowledge, one should let the knowledge come to them.

[7digitalSunday]

hi, just looking at johngrinderdotcom for upcoming courses by Mr. Grinder, and the links from his website, whisperinginthewinddotcom and nlpwhisperinginthewinddotcom dont seem to be workable. so just thought i might pass it on that there may be some problem there.

like Mr. Grinder very much, and do hope to attend a new code introduction very soon.

[rsouthern]

genius a natural

[Yetinski]

The difference between Grinder and Bandler is that Grinder has remained in NLP circa 1975 where Bandler has developed beyond the original NLP model. Grinder is an elequent speaker.

[InspiritiveNLP]

You could not be mistaken. Grinder has continued to model and produce new patterns. Some of which he has incorporated into the new code of NLP. Other patterns he has developed and applied in his and Bostic St Clairs work as management consultants. I agree with your statement that he is an eloquent speaker.

[clerkhog]

i totally agree, i reckon its human ego and over analysis of ourselves that stops us from growing intellectually. we think we have it all figured out

[musty911]

what>?

[BogdanToronto]

This guy trumps Bandler by a thousand. So exquisite! Thank you.

[mrmoogle1]

I am so glad to hear somebody else say and think what I think and arrive upon the same conclusions I did through experience and trial and error throughout life. It is very comforting to know that I am not crazy. (^_^)

[AlmaTheProphet]

Trumps Richard Bandler ?...Are you stoned ? John Grinder has a completely different personality than Richard Bandler !.....John Grinder sounds more intellectual than Richard Bandler......ok...thats great.... but "trumps " him....lol...not hardly dude !

[xirishmagicx]

That's a really interesting point and I can definitely see why you would mention that. I've found that comparing people probably isn't the best idea in comparison to taking what you've learned from everyone into a mental folder to be analyzed then to come to your own conclusion of the material in allocation. Just a thought... : )

[Texturedscarfs]

he is a good speaker ( :

[robbolton]

This is extremely interesting, from my experience deep insight mediation(vipassana) can help to put the mind into this type no knowing state freeing the mind to learn and an accelerated rate.

[cmish]

If you want to turn off all the internal maps, take a heavy dose of LSD, from a qualified chemist of course, to turn on Leary's theory of "imprinting." To him, this can only be activated if the person willing to change is ripped from their reality into a completely new one where the old world's rules don't apply. It's only in this "crucial" moment when they can learn purely, without any filters of reward or punishment. Similar to when a newborn goose learns to identify a warm object as mother.

[HomesteadProvocateur]

This is why I think it is so important to consistently re-evaluate what one thinks they know and refine their knowledge base, I'm hoping to cultivate the art of "open-mindedness" in that I'm open to learning new things. My goal is kinesthetic development and more importantly interpersonal and social skills.

[InspiritiveNLP]

I agree with you. One of the skills in the New Code of NLP is learning how to enter into know-nothing-states. As well as an essential skill for modeling another it is a useful step in extending and developing new descriptions of the world. Descriptions that may be at variance to what one already knows.

[leerroy77]

Brilliant.

[PiderSpig]

I recommend learning to dance. Specifically, lead and follow based dancing like salsa, swing, tango etc... I know from experience it will help you develop in the areas you specifically identify. Invest in private lessons or even try to get a job at a ballroom studio (depending on where you live, they might not even charge for initial training). Learning to dance has been invaluable for me, and i was initially opposed to the entire idea and hated dancing, so go figure...

[InspiritiveNLP]

NLP is not a theory. It is a methodology for building models of human excellence. How is your comment "Remember the man that left his mind open until his brain fell out" relevant?

[tj5555555]

Represses free speach also. Propaganda. AC

[InspiritiveNLP]

Who specifically represses free speech? Represses how specifically? What propaganda?

[kwadade]

Where can I get materials to learn this wonderful technique?

[emanon2noname]

is there a book about this new code ? and how to get into the unconcious assimilation state consitantly intetionly. ????? i have alot of books aboute nlp but none have mentioned the new code .

[InspiritiveNLP]

New code books;

Turtles All the Way Down, Prerequisites to personal genuis (1986) by DeLozier & Grinder. An edited transcript of one of the first new code of NLP designed programs. Read it like a novel the patterns are embedded through the metaphors.

Whispering in the Wind (2001) by Bostic St Clair & Grinder. Written in an academic style, the authors make explicit the differences between the classic code of NLP and the new code.

The NLP Field Guide; Pt1. (2001) by Collingwood & Collingwood

[innergizeinternation]

Clearly articulates the advantage of NLP modelling over the analytical approach. At the same time, the ability to 'transfer' expertise- which can happen only when the NLP modelling is 'converted' to analytical codes - is touched upon.

[geoffmwade]

John Grinder, the co-founder of NLP, explains what NLP modelling is and why it is much more effective than analytical modelling.