Robert Heinlein's first wife, a witch, said after the Babalon Working that Hubbard behaved like a man possessed by one of the darker entities from the Other Worlds stories. This is correct. Jack Parsons, whatever his flaws, was a talented magician, and Hubbard lying to him about his scrying ability got him entry to a Working that was totally out of his league. Whatever possession is, Hubbard experienced it as a result. Please note Scientology is obsessed with disembodied spirits possessing us.
Lucifer was hebrew for Light Bearer. it all comes down to the ancient kingdom of babalon! nimrod (lucifer) 1st king of babalon a self styled god of the sun. & his wife Semirans (dianna) 1st queen of babalon a self styled goddess of the moon.
Uhhh.. I think they got the wrong website at the end.. It should be lermanet.COM not lermanet.ORG. lermanet.org is actually an attack site and is pro-scientology!
I heard that Crowley didn't like Hubbard or he ended up not liking him for whatever reason. Crowley never started a cult at least. He taught free will. Crowley was no angel though but he was a saint compared to Hubbard.
@LedWilde Also, the label "satanism" people attach to Crowley is not accurate. Occultist, yes. But never said anything about contacting satan in any of his writings. He called himself "the beast" and signed his name with 666 but if you dig deeper on why he did those two things, it had nothing to do with satanism or satan. Even though he was aware of what impressions it might give to somebody, satan worship wasn't the intent. Was Crowley evil? That's for you to judge. When compared to Hubbard, no
"The apparent discrepancy in the gospel narrative aroused no doubt in my mind as to the literal truth of either of the texts. Indeed, my falling away from grace was not occasioned by any intellectual qualms; I accepted the theology of the Plymouth Brethren. In fact, I could hardly conceive of the existence of people who might doubt it. I simply went over to Satan's side; and to this hour I cannot tell why.
Aah how adorable another talkshow..trying to scare people on their own ignorance.
A Magician at Las Vegas is making "Miracles" appear...but when shown how...man should acknowledge that their unknowing was the actual basis for the "miracle" to happen.
The Occult is tottally respecting you as beeing...Instead of what your boss wants to pull over your eyes at work.
Spinoza; MIracles are impossible and the faith in Miracles is nothing more than a extraordinairy laughable form of ignorance.
God allows all things that happen, to happen. People who choose to follow this cult in light of these facts being attainable, do so at their own peril. I worked for a scientologist for a while, and I remember a story he told me. He was livid that a cop had driven down his street speeding with his lights on. This is a religion of ego, and is satanic. It's also set up like secret societies where you are taught/indoctrinated in increments, so as to control all your questions and thoughts all along.
Crowley was a hero/inspiration to Hubbard, but,of the two,in my view Hubbard was FAR more evil. It's true Crowley wrecked lives of many people who came within his personal orbit during his lifetime & was an egotist falsely claiming he was egoless as a Buddha - But Crowley's organizations, which still exist today (OTO, A.:.A), were never devised to enslave,control,or exort money from followers-unlike Hubbard's destructive,hypnotic control $y$tem cult. & unlike LRon,Crowley died near-penniless.
hmm, I find this video conflicting. on the one hand l ron hubbard was a total fraud, but the use of crowley to defame him is a bit off. all these videos call crowley a satanist and this and that. Crowley never worshipped the devil, he was about liberation from the mundane. of course that makes him evil in the eyes of moral fags
The Bible's interpretation of Satan is arguably limited,distorted & lacking in historical context.
Crowley said the Biblical Satan is identical to god the Shaitan worshipped in ancient Mesopotamia & Set of ancient Egypt AND to Crowley's own "Holy Guardian Angel" Aiwass! Set/Shaitan/Aiwass were central to AC's cult.The fact his interpretation may be factually fuller and truer in religious history terms than the Bible's hardly makes him less of a Satanist. Arguably, it makes him MORE of one!
@Bobb9999 You do know Shaitan is also the name given to demons in Islam, and the root of the Christian term "Satan", which didn't exist until after the Crusades. Before the Crusades, the Devil in Christianity was called Lucifer, which translates as "Light Bearer". They had to change it i think, because it discredits the Church some what, if you see what i mean.
crazy thing is tht Crowley said and Im paraphrasing he said I was a devoted member of Plymouth Brethren, I believed it to my very core and couldnt imagine anyone ever doubting it, I purposely decided to worship satan and I was determined to neet him and to be his embassador. so he clearly believed in God but decided to switch sides and sold his soul ,,,bad choice
good video, Xenumania.The $ci "cross" was invenetd at the time they wanted recognition as a religion. The cross was chosen because of the obvious familiarity folks have for it, but their cross has a completely different meaning. Their cross has an "X" over it, ...a crossed out cross. If you google crossed out cross, you will find several references. The best one I have found was page from Lermanet. Yes, it is true that Crowley was very influential to LRH.
Robert Heinlein's first wife, a witch, said after the Babalon Working that Hubbard behaved like a man possessed by one of the darker entities from the Other Worlds stories. This is correct. Jack Parsons, whatever his flaws, was a talented magician, and Hubbard lying to him about his scrying ability got him entry to a Working that was totally out of his league. Whatever possession is, Hubbard experienced it as a result. Please note Scientology is obsessed with disembodied spirits possessing us.
apollion888 3 months ago
Lucifer was hebrew for Light Bearer. it all comes down to the ancient kingdom of babalon! nimrod (lucifer) 1st king of babalon a self styled god of the sun. & his wife Semirans (dianna) 1st queen of babalon a self styled goddess of the moon.
SuperDevilChris 5 months ago
SCIENTOLOGY IS STUPID. IF YOU ARE A SCIENTOLOGIST YOU ARE A STUPID PERSON. YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUMP OFF A BRIDGE AND CALL IT A RELIGION.
SuperSam424 6 months ago
4:00 that's an awesome copy
magicalhearingman 9 months ago
Hubbard is a fool, labeling Aleister Crowley as a black magician. He shows here that he has no understanding of Aleister Crowley or black magick
magicalhearingman 9 months ago
Has anyone else noticed that L Ron Jr. looks a lot like Bubbles from the Trailer Park Boys?
MrDixonSyder 10 months ago
Uhhh.. I think they got the wrong website at the end.. It should be lermanet.COM not lermanet.ORG. lermanet.org is actually an attack site and is pro-scientology!
tomp2008 10 months ago
@sweetfire96
Gad!
What babble! What rambling! What poor grammar and spelling!
Are you serious? Do you expect us to take you so?
pbfuddle 11 months ago
I like the creepy organ music. That is something I would love to learn to play. Thank you for posting this.
Nguli34689 11 months ago
occultist?! sATAnist?! does it matter the same father!
sjdss 11 months ago
Begone Satan. And all your works begone.
norb1937 1 year ago
L ron hubbards son is bubbles from trailer park boys ? i did not know that !
XxgraveXxrobber13 1 year ago
I heard that Crowley didn't like Hubbard or he ended up not liking him for whatever reason. Crowley never started a cult at least. He taught free will. Crowley was no angel though but he was a saint compared to Hubbard.
LedWilde 1 year ago
@LedWilde Also, the label "satanism" people attach to Crowley is not accurate. Occultist, yes. But never said anything about contacting satan in any of his writings. He called himself "the beast" and signed his name with 666 but if you dig deeper on why he did those two things, it had nothing to do with satanism or satan. Even though he was aware of what impressions it might give to somebody, satan worship wasn't the intent. Was Crowley evil? That's for you to judge. When compared to Hubbard, no
LedWilde 1 year ago
@LedWilde
you are wrong:
"The apparent discrepancy in the gospel narrative aroused no doubt in my mind as to the literal truth of either of the texts. Indeed, my falling away from grace was not occasioned by any intellectual qualms; I accepted the theology of the Plymouth Brethren. In fact, I could hardly conceive of the existence of people who might doubt it. I simply went over to Satan's side; and to this hour I cannot tell why.
Aleister Crowley
stupaod 1 year ago
People wich (still) appoint those "miracles" to god are funny and dangerously old.
For those let's say man now grew a bit more allong with "God"...and how?
Nature laws?
Come on, you Reli-ppl really want to sing the same plagiarism song since the Constantine days?
Occult stands for thruth's we don't want to hear anymore.
Because of every "team" with their own agenda, labeling the world.
The team of humanity is to scattered.
~God' has been blown to pieces, now the parts lay everywhere~
SweetFire96 1 year ago
Aah how adorable another talkshow..trying to scare people on their own ignorance.
A Magician at Las Vegas is making "Miracles" appear...but when shown how...man should acknowledge that their unknowing was the actual basis for the "miracle" to happen.
The Occult is tottally respecting you as beeing...Instead of what your boss wants to pull over your eyes at work.
Spinoza; MIracles are impossible and the faith in Miracles is nothing more than a extraordinairy laughable form of ignorance.
SweetFire96 1 year ago
o sweat
MrPizarrox 1 year ago
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XXXREDROOMXXX 1 year ago
God allows all things that happen, to happen. People who choose to follow this cult in light of these facts being attainable, do so at their own peril. I worked for a scientologist for a while, and I remember a story he told me. He was livid that a cop had driven down his street speeding with his lights on. This is a religion of ego, and is satanic. It's also set up like secret societies where you are taught/indoctrinated in increments, so as to control all your questions and thoughts all along.
nothin2pruv 1 year ago
poor little hubbard, a poor sick little soul..
hangover71 1 year ago
oh noes!!!!!
ElectroPaganAnon 1 year ago
i cant hear what is being said because of that fucking organ music
joyandian 2 years ago
Crowley was a hero/inspiration to Hubbard, but,of the two,in my view Hubbard was FAR more evil. It's true Crowley wrecked lives of many people who came within his personal orbit during his lifetime & was an egotist falsely claiming he was egoless as a Buddha - But Crowley's organizations, which still exist today (OTO, A.:.A), were never devised to enslave,control,or exort money from followers-unlike Hubbard's destructive,hypnotic control $y$tem cult. & unlike LRon,Crowley died near-penniless.
Bobb9999 2 years ago 5
hmm, I find this video conflicting. on the one hand l ron hubbard was a total fraud, but the use of crowley to defame him is a bit off. all these videos call crowley a satanist and this and that. Crowley never worshipped the devil, he was about liberation from the mundane. of course that makes him evil in the eyes of moral fags
Ostwardo 2 years ago
The Bible's interpretation of Satan is arguably limited,distorted & lacking in historical context.
Crowley said the Biblical Satan is identical to god the Shaitan worshipped in ancient Mesopotamia & Set of ancient Egypt AND to Crowley's own "Holy Guardian Angel" Aiwass! Set/Shaitan/Aiwass were central to AC's cult.The fact his interpretation may be factually fuller and truer in religious history terms than the Bible's hardly makes him less of a Satanist. Arguably, it makes him MORE of one!
Bobb9999 2 years ago
@Bobb9999 You do know Shaitan is also the name given to demons in Islam, and the root of the Christian term "Satan", which didn't exist until after the Crusades. Before the Crusades, the Devil in Christianity was called Lucifer, which translates as "Light Bearer". They had to change it i think, because it discredits the Church some what, if you see what i mean.
SimonIntense 6 months ago
whats the song name at the end?
Bcasey11 2 years ago
The song at the end is Non Phixion - Black Helicopters. Probably the instrumental version.
firestrada 2 years ago
i wonder how crowley likes his place in hell right now.he knows now that there is one GOD and one JESUS.who saves all from sin.
hemiphil81 2 years ago
I think you take your fairy-tales too seriously.
1SeedyPirate 2 years ago
crazy thing is tht Crowley said and Im paraphrasing he said I was a devoted member of Plymouth Brethren, I believed it to my very core and couldnt imagine anyone ever doubting it, I purposely decided to worship satan and I was determined to neet him and to be his embassador. so he clearly believed in God but decided to switch sides and sold his soul ,,,bad choice
candiceevans1 2 years ago
Great video. Hubbard said "all men shall be my slaves", but $cientologists are too dense to see it!
parrotnutz 2 years ago
@parrotnutz
MrPizarrox 1 year ago
Hey Scientologists.. are you going to deny the words of Hubbards own son?
Hubbard was a sick,drug addict,who died a fugitive.
Thanks for posting this.
Hubbard creeps me out with his rotten teeth and his psycho mumbo jumbo that NOBODY understands , even though Scientologists pretend to understand it .
and PAY to be confused,used and abused by the cult that Hubbard created.
SAD
dasboatbabe 2 years ago 9
Indeed. Not only that, LRH said in his own words at 1:22 that Aleister Crowley was a very good friend of his and he gave Crowley some kudos.
How can The Church of Scientology deny that Hubbard and Crowley had no ties? Lets see Tommy Davis try to lie about that.
Xenumania 2 years ago
@dasboatbabe Actually yes, since he recanted all of this before his death.
visioarts 1 year ago
good video, Xenumania.The $ci "cross" was invenetd at the time they wanted recognition as a religion. The cross was chosen because of the obvious familiarity folks have for it, but their cross has a completely different meaning. Their cross has an "X" over it, ...a crossed out cross. If you google crossed out cross, you will find several references. The best one I have found was page from Lermanet. Yes, it is true that Crowley was very influential to LRH.
HoneyCallMeAnonymous 2 years ago
Black majic? Try "fail cancer, moral fags" shit these $cientologists keep putting up.
analyzingfunny 2 years ago
Creepy Ron, Creepy.
analyzingfunny 2 years ago 3