O'Reilly: 'It's Bull' That Torture Doesn't Work

[darkling9109]

I really don't like people making shit up to support their arguments. You can believe whatever you choose for whatever reason, but the truth on this is that torture DOES work.  When pilots, soldiers, spies etc, are trained, they are taught that if they capture they WILL talk, everyone does, but to just hold out for 24 hours so assets can be relocated out of harms way WHEN they do break. You're free to decide if it's right or wrong, but just don't make shit up.

[powerovergamec]

man OReilly makes Hiliary looks nice.

[PalmyBruce]

I and most people are sickened by the horror of torture. And it's 'politically unsupportable' in public (e.g. all candidates). However I (and probably they) would still expect that torture could often reveal verifiable information that the person would otherwise not provide - for example, the genuine location of a bomb or money, an arms cache, a method of communication to tap into. False information? You'd warily check it out, discount it. BUT toruture makes 'absolute' enemies, defeat from that.

[dizzyheights1000]

All rightwing fucktards r idiots!!

[jenn1ifer]

WATERBOARD HILLORY TILL SHE TALKS ABOUT PETER PUAL!!

[313foxbody420]

fuck that shit man, those fucks aren't people, don't treat em like people,

if they don't talk, chop off one of the towel heads fingers. and see how quickly you get information. sooner or later, he will notice that is not all we can do, aye, hes got 9 more and by that time he would beg to be killed, wow sick fucks like me should be locked up.

BUT...

you don't get answers other ways, at least not truthful answers. and wrong answers endanger the lives of my fellow americans

[netlord]

Ask a Republican like Mccain what he thinks about this. O reilly just likes to talk a lot.

[JCRReality]

TO HELL with this lying liberal BITCH ! Get her out of my government !.......NOW !

[tsuich00i]

wow what an ignorant peice of shit... what? Democrats winning make you a little upset?

so deal, and shut the fuck up my god...

[MeBeMat]

I refer you to the William Wordsworth poem "Anecdote for Fathers", in which a man receives and acts upon false information that he forcably retreives from his son. It's metaphorical and a bit obscure but the main point still stands.

TORTURE DOESN'T WORK, PEOPLE WILL SAY ANYTHING TO END SUFFERING, EVEN BETTER IF IT'S NOT TRUE AND THEY WON'T BE KILLED BY THIER LEADER FOR IT

[gameragodzilla]

that's why we have lie detectors. when people on 24 torture others, they usually use lie detectors to find out if the info they're spewing out is true or not. if it's true, we let 'em go. if it's not, we keep torturing. there is no such thing as giving faulty info when you use lie detectors. however, getting them to cooperate with you requires enhanced interrrogation.

[MeBeMat]

You're really using 24 as an example of the reality of torture?

Besides, what if their innocent? Trust me, when there's the threat of terrorism anyone and everyone is a suspect, at least that's what authorities think, and fob it off as 'collateral damage' or 'necessary investigation'.

[gameragodzilla]

IF THEY ARE INNOCENT, THEN THE LIE DETECOTR WILL SHOW US, DAMMIT!

no one seems to realize that. the government isn't that bad. they aren't going to continue to torture an innocent if the freaking lie detector tells them that. if they seriously don't know, we let 'em go.

hell, that thing even happend in 24, when a lie detector told him that the guy was truely innocent, and so he let that guy go.

innocents and false info is the reason why we have lie detecotrs in the first place.

[MeBeMat]

Please stop comparing this to 24, it''s a friggin tv show the reality is quite different.

Despite all the systems, we all know that people are constantly being wrongfully imprisoned, that's why we have organisations like Amnesty International.

Besides, if they are innocent then you've just tortured someone without evidence or proof. Add to that the fact that some people are just sadists and will continue torturing regardless

[mrchacko]

Lie detectors aren't even admissible in US courts... why the hell would you trust them.

[Silberdachs]

O'Reilly is a natural born bully, a hate-filled bullshitting bully. I sincerely hope he meets the fate he so richly deserves.

[InteGrayting]

Don't let these GOP officials and classless pundits confuse the issue here. They are trying to place a "did it work" tag on this, with a complete disregard of the fact it is immoral, and wrong to torture. They want to deflect from the fact they broke the law. I don;t give a damn if it does work, GOP said we don't torture, yet we know they did, and that is a hell of a lot more serious than a damn blow job in the oval office. P.S. nice to see all those moral religious folks supporting torture.

[gameragodzilla]

being immoral against the immoral is justifible. terrorists don't give a shit about us, and would love nothing more than to make us suffer a slow and painful death, so why should we be any different? besides, waterboarding is a walk in the park to people who have survived terrorist torture. in this world, there is no such thing as immoral or moral, only what benefits us or not. letting terrorists enjoy rights they don't deserve is just stupid.

[InteGrayting]

For you being immoral against the immoral is justifiable. If you consider yourself better than them, then don't copy their actions right? What torture did you go through to know first hand that waterboarding is a "walk in the park"? It does not benifit, but creates false info, and creates new enemies. This is not about showing a soft heart, but showing that we do have a brain. You want to say America is the greatest? Then we also have to have our actions meet that claim, and it hasn't yet.

[TBird4490]

@InteGrayting Who says what the "greatest" is? Is it up to you to dictate the status of our country? This country is the most innovative and inventive country yet. Yes, we have out faults, but the fact of the matter is, you wouldn't want to live anywhere else, and millions try to come and live in the U.S. . That says something, don't you think?

[Lucem2]

Gentlewoman Disagreement.

Yeah I heard that about you.

WOW, what the hell ?!

[granger18trains]

o'reilly..........what an idiot !

[eierer]

I can't believe people actually still go on the O'Reilly Factor.

[RatRaceAce]

O'Reilly reminds me of the period of the "Inquisition" in history, when people would be tortured horribly to make them "confess" to all kinds of non-existent crimes. Some people would simply "confess" to everything almost immediately, to avoid and reduce the pain. But the Inquisitors came up with this policy: "ONLY extreme pain can bring out the REAL TRUTH. There is NO truth without extreme pain. So, torture EVERY person horribly. DON'T accept confessions that came without sufficient torture"!!!

[tushicous]

what an idiot. Clinton does a great job speaking actual reason!

[12stringsforme]

Let's torture O'Rilley. Waterboard this uncivilized disgrace to journalism.

[maxx1000]

This comes from the same man who ranted about Saddam's torture and rape rooms as something to be appalled at. Yet reserves those very types of acts and tactics that are commendable.

SEE, IT'S NOT TORTURE WHEN AMERICA DOES IT.

[KingDingaLing090]

@maxx1000 Pouring water on someones face is a little different than pulling fingernails out of their hand dipshit.

Second are you really this far along in your life and you havent figured out that the freakishly liberal Obama administration decided it is in fact NOT torture?

If it were Holder would go after them for breaking the law.

What happened to Guantanamo? I thought Obama was closing it down... Apparently he used you like a puppet for political points and you dont even know it. Lol.

[kupumentira]

@KingDingaLing090 Waterboarding is based on inducing a sensation of drowning and if not stopped in time it will kill the victim. Could you explain to me why this is so different from pulling fingernails? Because to me both seem like really good examples of torture, no matter which administration says what.

[KingDingaLing090]

@kupumentira That sensation is mental. That's why they don't give them that much time jerk off. Figernails are physical torture with physical damage, ummm... What would you do to stop the murder of thousands of innocent people? Answer: talk them to sleep and give them a nice place to take a shit while they read their Quran and whine about small pillows. People like you get innocent people killed because your too stupid for freedom or order.

[kupumentira]

@KingDingaLing090 How about not jumping to conclusions about my beliefs? Frankly, I do believe that torture can be justifiable to find answers if a person has been directly involved in planning an act that could kill or harm thousands of people. However to dismiss it as not being torture simply based on that it is not physical is sugarcoating facts to make people feel better about themselves. Try reading accounts from former POWs who describe mental torture just as damaging as physical.

[KingDingaLing090]

@kupumentira blah blah blah blah make your mind up Junior. We arent talking about your new video game we are litterally talking about mass murdering terrorists and we saved LIVES by pouring WATER ON THEIR FACE. Jesus, KUP quit being such a bitch.

[kupumentira]

@KingDingaLing090 I did. I said torture is neccessary, you're the one who wants to call it something else to ease your conscience by calling it something else. And POW means prisoner of war, it's not an abbreviation for a video game.

[KingDingaLing090]

@kupumentira Oh so you are just here to impress yourself with your limited vocabulary? In the eyes of the law it is not toture. PERIOD. 

[KingDingaLing090]

@maxx1000 I like this relativity game. Does this mean I can sue the police for putting pepper spray in my eyes? No.. that isnt torture.... I can think of something more tortorous than that... Putting a man in a straight jacket in a room with hundreds of flies just buzzing in your face all day and all night for years and years and years. That is torture. But alas that is not torture in eyes of THE LAW. Saddam's rape rooms and eye gouging is illegal toture that is the difference you stupid fuck.